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dollarstays:
@joker09...let me not deviate from the main stuff............now you should that one of the importance of being a redpiller is for to know your worth as a man and be in control of the frame in which people operate around you.....you can be a beta male or an alpha male so long as that frame you are operating is been controlled by you (NoTe: simping is when you are operating in another persons frame without your knowledge be it male person frame or be it a female simping is simping).....extra point to note:a female can die or kill herself for an alpha beta male...trust me on this one.... Being an alpha beta male is the type of male that beyonce was referring to in her single "poison" i think you should listen to it an imagine yourself doing that to her...

Hmmn. Deep! Thanks for the input bro. I’ll make and adjustment. I think there just need to be a balance in everything. Thanks!

ichidodo:
[color=#1980BC] If you're redpilled, it's not bad to go out on dates...infact dates are avenues where your partner realizes your strong mental frame and how valuable your SMV is or gonna be, she realizes that you're a good catch thus she does everything in her power to be with you... but the game has to be played right else you turn into her simp or worse still, a beta orbital to be converted into her maga as you've already experienced in previous dates....And delete that WhatsApp app(especially,if it isn't used to better your career etc), it has been bastardized by simps and the blue pill narrative.As a red piller, you rarely get repreive from it or social media in general and that includes facebook, instagram even nairaland romance section (before the coming of Ubunja's miseducations)...Start stretching your red pill muscles from the real world, your experiences,social face to face interactions,your hopes, dreams, life goals etc...Open your redpill eyes to the real world about you and find your niche instead of going about seeking for female validation like a lil boy with mummy issues...Cheers,bro.[/color]

Your last senstence made me LOL, haha. Thanks for the input and I get your point, I’ll hold on to it.. I just have to find a balance in everything. These things need to be said and I’m glad I got my explanations clearly from guys like u. Thank very much! More life!

baiaon:
@Emboldened
You actually had the best mindset.
The ladies who didn't allow you have your way with them were simply not interested in you.
My advice on dates is to Invite her to a joint close to your residence,from there straight to your house.If she says no,let her go.All these sitting down for hours and kiss goodnight on her doorstep are beta simpish moves.A woman that likes a man likes a man.He really doesn't have to do too much.Social media apps take away a man's mystery.I don't do them

Exactly!!! This is so ME!. Maybe they aren’t interested in me, yes. Also look at it from this angle, what if they are just very principled and never let a guy they’re just meeting have his way with them no matter how much they like him? Coz these girls were really happy that i talked to them and even so eager to give their numbers but they won’t just let me have my way easily like I used to. And yes I actually love that idea of inviting them close to a joint close to my place and from there go to my place, I’ve used this strategy before when I used to do ‘dates’ and I’ll say it’s one of the best strategies. I’ll learn to adjust and find a balance with everything anyway. Thanks so much for your input bro!!

Akinbahm:
At the bolded, Yahoo boiz have spoilt market in taking a lady out on a date cause now average 9ja girls u take out on a date has only one motive which is to have a share in ur money nd make the move to the nearest rich dude not all though but majorly.

If you are dating the girl already there's nth wrong in taking her out nd that should even be seldomly just to change ur tactics "the way u start with a woman is the way u gonna end with" if u attract a lady with money 4gt abt it such relationship would be run with money even if u start it with s3x u will still run it with s3x choose the one u know u can easily part with nd wont end in tears.

At the italicized, that's the undiluted truth once a lady choose you herself there's no shit u wont test the lady with nd she will still be with u that's why u see those girls in toxic relationship still craving for guys dealing with them badly because they chose the guy.

How do you make a lady choose u, work on ur SMV build yourself emotionally, physically, psychologically and financially.

Getting a lady numb and chatting her via watsApp doesnt turn u a simp but the way u go with it can make u one.

How do u go about it let's assume u gt a girl contact on Monday never make the attempt of calling/messaging her that same day u can call/msg her on Thursday or Friday to form u are a busy type nd make the call/msg simple.

You not calling her immediately would compel her to divert her attention towards u cause she will be expecting ur call or message and when u finally break the nut of calling her she will form by asking who are u bla bla after telling her who u r she might still feign ignorance of not knowing u sha dont loose nd guard play along (she remember everything) u can just follow it with am so so save my contact I wont do any introduction when next I call gonna gt in touch with u later and hang up that's my line u can make yours it not necessary u use mine.

Wow. Nice one wiseman! Food for thoughts. I’m glad you also aware about the average Nigerian girls mentality. And yes yahoo boiz and sugar daddies have really spoilt these girls. You are so right! They have really disappointed me by trying to extort me in the name of ‘dates’. One of them once told me to buy food for her sister while we were on date, she still billed me for money for her business and even tried to lure me to an atm, I had to decline, I dropped her off and that was the last time I heard from her. These things keep recurring the moment u take them out on dates, some will deliberately not have anything to do with u intimately but you’ll keep going on multiple dates, then u get tired. When I got frustrated, I devised a strategy by not taking them out again at all, I do phone calls alone, I try as much as possible to have my way with any girl I meet after the first 3 days of meeting her, all I do is get her phone, call her and check on her, if she likes me, we’ll at least kiss in her place or mine or do the do. This is what works for me until I met few girls lately and this strategy didn’t work at all, they all didn’t want to meet up, low interest? I don’t think so. I figured they expect a date, that is why I have rethink and try to find an adjustment. I pick a lot from what you have said and I’ll save them on my left palm. I know what to do now. Thanks a lot!!

pansophist:
Just as employers interview job applicants for their suitability for job openings, its also the same logic with dates, where a woman determine if you fit her expectation of what a man should be. Going on dates is not a simp move, it is all part of the mating protocols. You know, there are people you usually admire from a distance, but when you have a one-on-one contact and they opened their mouth, you're turned off instantly. Dates is merely a confirmation of presuppositions.

Furthermore, because a woman choose you doesn't mean dates are not required. Its also the same way employers chooses few job applicants for interview, as their cv seems impressive. A woman may have choosed you from a distance, maybe you are the IT guy in the upper floor of her office, and going for a date will be the opportunity for her to talk to you one-one-one and confirm all what she had projected on your personality, and it goes both ways as well.

After the first date, don't be in a rush to call back and take things forward, take things slow. If she truly desired you, she would be clamouring to meet up again. On the date, see yourself as the prize, and through non verbally communication, it should be clear that she would be lucky to be in your life. Not flattery, and an overly focus on how beautiful she is, or whatever. You are the enforcer of standards, and she has to conform to it, and the ability to enforce your standards efficiently is solely dependent on how quality of a man you are. Having options and a good life brings confidence.

A good analogy I could use is this, "dates are where women goes to determine if the new country (you as a man) is where she is willing to migrate to, and also where you (the man) determine if she is the kind of immigrant you would appreciate in your country. So be careful of giving boko haram citizenship lol. so do not sell yourself short or use self-depreciating remark as an attempt to appear humble, as that would means you're not a good for her to lay her nest.

NOTED. Wise words from the great pansophist. I really appreciate your inputs in this. Yes I understand that part clearly now and I know what to do now. I have to confess I am one of the guys that meet a girl today and I have my way with her within a day of 2 after meeting her, I literally make my phone calls intact and I check on them in their homes or they come to mine, and boom it happens! Sometimes I meet them that day and have my way with them that same day(doesn’t work for all ladies tho). I became this monster that don’t waste time on women because they’ve taken me for granted when I was beta, a lot of money and time wasted. I remember how I used to take them out to places and never get anything back in return until I vouched to change my ways with them. My motto is ‘I must be intimate with any girl I meet within 3 days after meeting her’ Sex first, relationship later.. which often works tho but I came to realization that I’ve met few girls lately and that strategy didn’t work with any of them at all, that’s why I called myself back and noticed I’m not doing something right or I’m being extreme about certain things, I don’t really use Whastapp or any chatting platform with them too because I hate disrespect, I don’t want no monosyllabic word while we chat, so I don’t put myself in that position in the first place.
I got it now. I’ll still start doing DATES again and this time I’ll adhere to the points you’ve made. I really appreciate your input, I’ll adjust. Thanks Bro.

Redpillers, I have a question that's been bugging me. Pls is taking a girl out on a 'date' sensible at all? Or it is a beta move?
Coz I want to believe a girl that likes u should be the one to choose u and not give u any stress after you've exchanged contacts and talked on phone. I've taken girls out in the past, they don't always have good outcomes as most of these girls are mostly after what they'll eat outside with u instead of focusing on getting to know u. Is it advisable to take a girl out on a date if u redpilled?

Also does it make any sense to chat a girl you just met up on WhatsApp at all? Coz most of these girls find it hard to hold a decent conversation while chatting, they can bore u to death, should communications be strictly phone calls?

Redpillers, I have a question that's been bugging me. Pls is taking a girl out on a 'date' sensible at all? Or it is a beta move?
Coz I want to believe a girl that likes u should be the one to choose u and not give u any stress after you've exchanged contacts and talked on phone. I've taken girls out in the past, they don't always have good outcomes as most of these girls are mostly after what they'll eat outside with u instead of focusing on getting to know u. Is it advisable to take a girl out on a date if u redpilled?

Also does it make any sense to chat a girl you just met up on WhatsApp at all? Coz most of these girls find it hard to hold a decent conversation while chatting, they can bore u to death, should communications be strictly phone calls?

Evolutionlove:
Casted!!! Me sef know say the Negro na hairy baller......

Big time hairy baller. I've forgotten that girl's name on IG but I'll check soon and may probably paste it to u soon.

Stacyomolola:
Its such a pity she didn't opt for payment b4 service, Girls u need to get wiser
#End service b4 payment#

Lol, ok o, if I hear. Like they are wise to get the code... I know the girl on your dp's profile on IG tho.

thesilentman:
I will advice you to change your style.Even though you are handsome,bro,e get style.Thanks!

The only style he can change to is giving an impression like he has more money than he currently has coz that's d only language these ladies want to hear now and not simp in d process tho, Liars/players enjoy these girls all d time. For instance lie to an average Naija girl u just meet that u are ready give her 20k for coming to keep your company or u want to buy her a phone or any material thing she currently needs and watch how she runs to visit u, you'll f.uck her and discharge her coded without paying nada... Most of these girls are coded runs girls now and nobody can tell me otherwise. Been redpilled without much money will not let u get all d girl u want, u win some, u loose many...until u include lie.
LIES is what really works for a typical Naija girl, it's what they appreciate, tho lies only work for casual sex and short term relationships. They hate honest struggling guys.

Notatribalist:
I have been told by ladies and even men that I am cute..About 6 girls have asked me out for date..But the funniest thing is that the one I like do not accept me,even though I am not poor..So it's more than look my brother.

This is apt!
Many girls will ask u out when you're handsome but not the ones that are your spec.
The ones that u like which are the cute ones will be busy playing games and not even send u like that, that's because a lot of guys are also asking them out and there are a lot of betas(Sugar Daddies, yahoo boys, politicians, etc) who try so hard to impress them with material things in the present Nigeria, those ones won't like u for being u, they use their beauties to hustle and don't really have anything to do with romance.

[quote author=thesilentman post=94996699].

Joro to Joro

Naija girls don frustrate Naija guys sha . Don't blame them, the poor economic situation is also part of it, girls don't see u for being u now but what u can offer them, especially the hot ones. Romance is dead in this country as a result of hardship, laziness and greed..girls want to meet up with some certain standards, since they have simps to pay for it, they just got to cut u out if u are not willing to pay for being with u, sorry guys, that's d reality of things now. Politicians, Sugar Daddies, yahoo boys and d likes have spoilt show for boys as most girls only date for money now. Your redpill or Alpha techniques will not work on any of these (cute) girls without u being financially comfortable to an extent except u are an unrepentant LIAR. Liars that pretend to be rich get these girls for short term relationship or casual sex these days tho..
If a girl is not this way in Nigeria, it's either she's from a wealthy home, she's VERY well trained, she's very hardworking, she's already getting OLD after years of slaying or she's not really good looking(which equates to few options)

Talk to an average cute Nigerian girl now and immediately she feels like u owe her, she feels entitled immediately and expect u to lavish on her meanwhile in most cases she might not even agree to date u or av anything to do with u after doing all that she expects, she may still ghost u while she moves to the next guy, SCAM! (same girl could stl be a runs girl) that is why a lot of guys are angry, girls have taken guys for granted over d years and that's why a lot of guys are so toxic to women now.

It's all become games now, it's either play or be played. I understand the angle op is coming from and he needs to calm down and not let these things get to him. Guys should keep their hard earned resources well and don't just throw them on girls, stop loving...Socialize, meet a lot of girls but don't chase. If she's making it hard for u, let her go immediately, try the next one! If u don't invest anything(money, time or emotions), u av nothing to loose, no regret. Date the girls that like u back and guide ur heart, you'll sure know the real one as time goes on.

Akanimoh113:
Please Guys I need 5k. My Birthday is coming up soon on the 16th of this month.
I'll be very Grateful. Thank You

Birthday of all things? Damn! You're so shameless!. Nobody owes u here guy.
Some of us are even too busy to celebrate our birthdays. U for come up with a better reason, mtchww.

millionboi2:
This ugly gal

The fine ones are slaying, forming hard to get and chasing rich men/guys all about. That's the reality of Nigeria today. Many average cute guys only wife average looking women with decent character. It's what I see everywhere now.

Everything comes with a price these days bruh. It's the harsh reality.

Dpsychologist:
In contrast, men age like wine. So use the best of your life (30s) to marry a lady in the best part of her life ( 20s).

...

Someone wants a donation.

Penboy:
The problem with having a WhatsApp group is that there'll be no legacy left for upcoming pillers who would need to refer to a thread like this.

If threads like this didn't exist, most of us won't have gained the needed information right from page 1.

Telegram would have been the better option sinces files uploaded can still be seen by new pillers. But then Nairaland still offers the best bet.

Nairaland is still the best. Let the words(redpill movement) spread like virus.

Luftwaffe:
Nigerian Runz girls are against ENDSARS to spite the boys. They forget that if the boys don't eat, they'll starve too.

Well sugar daddies dey for them.

Pstarogood0100:
I bet you my fellow redpillers, repill will later in the future be revolutionized . By that time all men will be aware of redpill. That is when the bible will be fulfilled " A TIME WILL COME WHEN 7 WOMEN WILL BE MARRIED TO ONE MAN, THEY SHALL SAY, PLEASE LET ME JUST BEAR YOUR NAME. Isaiah 4:1.

As it should be.

paul100:
That true oooooo but come to think to it.How did Ned win regina daniels heart?

He didn't win any heart, she only married for money, that doesn't mean she wont cheat or she's not cheating.

lefulefu:
i believe a lady that comes from a home where there is enough food that eating out wont freak her.Is it rice? is chicken? is it swallow? wetin wan freak her?

True bro. I have the same believe.

lefulefu:
Hmm but is it in our culture to be drinking coffee on a date? I thought its mainly whites who take coffee.I would expect a guy who doesnt have much in his pocket when he wants to take out his girlfriend he could make a modest order of a bottle of malt or any soft drink then a piece or two piece of meatpie.that wont crack his pocket.He doesnt need to order for eight packs of sharwama and fifteen wraps of pizza then an expensive red wine .he would be making a dent on slim pocket .But if his wallet is a little fat then he can go ahead and order what he wants .And besides the reason of meeting each other is to know one another and not to eat so it wouldnt even make sense guzzling down ur stomach with excess food until ur bursting with consumption .Take eat moderately and listen to what he says .

Obviously that lady you quoted isn't pleased with having 'malt/coke and pie' on a date, she considers it cheap lol , I wonder why...when the purpose of meeting is to get to know each other, not to come and eat. She basically wants food and more food.

Most Nigerian girls are just hungry and the love of what they will eat supersedes the main purpose of the date. That is why they can go on multiple dates with different guys, just to eat, eat, and eat more food.

Dates are never about 'getting to know each other' with most naija girls, rather it's about 'coming to eat'.

PS Any useless lady shouldn't quote me if they don't want to be unfortunate plz.

yunglegend99:
E go shock u na, thats wen the bible prophecy will be fufilled, and watch how these leeches will beg the available men to take them

True. Men are already getting liberated.

tafat:
I swear, and it's quite difficult starting a business you know nothing about

Exactly!

mrpaedo:
Redpilled Song of the Day

Prodigy----You can never feel my pain

Mad lyrical song. RIP Prodigy.
Mobb Deep(Prodigy&Havoc) were hell of a dope duo artistes.

tafat:
na wa o, so na so 9000 people loose their jobs?

Sad part is Nigeria na one chance, once u lose job, to get replacement no be beans.

Ppl will go back to village, yahoo rate go increase, ppl will start business by force.

Matrimonous:
The inventors of BB shows really got something right. It grips the public.

What u expect? Ppl are sad, bored and depressed.

Jacuzzi55:
one thing i admire about redpill so far is that it makes you more confident(about life in general) while you laugh at your simping friend been played by the girl
I am glad I have been exposed to redpill since my teen
I was a chronic simple(simple for girl in the past) but thank God the number was not up-to 3 before redpill expose my eyes
thanks to glycolysis,ubunja,martinez,cav,pans,skepticus etc

You are very right about this. The craziest thing is that trp makes you see yourself as the prize all the time, if care isn't taken, you'll expect the girls to approach u themselves instead of u going to them.

The application makes u look a lot better and increase ones self confidence, you just don't stress about them anymore. I believe females see all that in u, that makes them look u a lot like they want to take u home for lunch. That I've noticed so far.

Demaestro09:
You must be very stupid for typing this trash here

Who are the people you date You piece of shit? You know nothing bro, how much does an average Nigerian date cost, at most 5k. Most guys here can afford it, just that we can stand imbeciles like you making us to feel like it's our duty to foot the entire bill just because we asked her out. In a civilised society everyone pays for their thing, that's more reasonable and rational.

In the US for instance its the norm for everyone to foot his/her bill, that's how things are done in most civilise countries. And no it doesn't equate brokenness as fools like you reason it, far from it.

It's only here in Nigeria that foolish men like you think spending money on a lady on a first date means you love her or something.

I repeat, it those not equal brokenness, more like one footing their bill s but you are seemingly too stupid to get this

My point is : it doesn't takes away from me if I choose to pay for everything on a date, that's just out of my own freewill and volition. Its not a duty or a responsibility. You are making it seem like the lady is entitled for her bills to be paid be me , which makes no sense

I feel you bro, I've been liking your posts, most of these guys are still yet to figure the average Nigerian girls out, they still don't know how cunning these girls are and these girls don't like them at all. They don't know these girls care more about the food they are coming to eat more than the likeness they have for them, they don't know these girls go out on these dates with almost every guy that ask them out(even if they dislike him to stupor) just because of what they are coming to eat to feed their bellies, you could clearly see some of them here saying that they can't have just malt on a first date, that answers the question..
I took one out some time ago, bought drinks, pies and all, can you believe this girl still had the audacity to ask me to buy take away food for her sister, I declined, immediately she still billed me for 3k for her failed business, her plan was to just reap me off that day, get as much as she can from me and discard me. I didn't pay for any of those and she refuse to pick my call again, her problem...
I can spend anything on a date if the girl I'm spending it on is worth it and won't sly the next day but I won't risk that coz a lot of them easily take one for a fool here, (the more u spend, the more they look u like a fool, know this)..It's not even what these girls will eat is the problem, but the feeling of them thinking they've outsmarted you by chopping your money is the problem (you'll be like on top how much? They are so low like that even the ones that work), the next day you'll see them with another guy playing d same game with them. 90% of guys that take them out on dates don't get them, especially those that food is very important to them on dates, they just eat their monies until they are tired, they know who they actually dating, they just leech on gullible guys they reaping off in d name of "dates"

Don't be surprised to take a Nigerian girl out on a date and you see her the next day with another guy on another date, that's what many of them survive on, the moment they realize you've bought food for them on several dates, they discard u and go for the next guy and on and on. That's why it's still fair to split the bills eventhough I know a lot of them won't buy d idea. To avoid all this, it's better not to do dates at all in Nigeria coz it's an avenue to reap guys off. I personally prefer to check them in their place briefly or they come check me instead of 'date', if she's not down with that, that means she would have tried playing games with me if we were to go on a date in the first place, in order words she isn't meant for me.. If you're gonna do dates at all, just buy her a cheap drink and a pie (not some fancy food!)so she doesn't feel she has outsmarted u, that's how you can know who is who.. if she's not comfortable with it, she can take her leave and geddifok.