₦airaland Forum

lepasharon:
Some of these Christians act like the bible fell from heaven. Reality check,the bible has an origin and history.

have you checked out the origin and history? You'd be very amazed if you really checked it out. I mean archaeological facts about the various manuscripts and others, not pathetic tales people write online for criticism and hatred.

Rational wiki is your source? That's pathetic.

plaetton:
I disagreed with deepsight on immutability. A god cannot be immutable and at the same time be the active agent in creation.

God is contradiction in terms , because if he is active in creation, then he subject to the laws of universe himself, making him a non god.
If , on the hand, god is not active in creation, then he does not exist in creation.

God, existing in the form of pure electromagnetic energy that pulses and reverberates throughout the universe would be a much more plausible description.
In other words, god would have to be evolving with the universe.

This might be deemed off-track, but it is your post that calls upon me for address. When God is said to be immutable by someone like myself, as you implied, I mean he is immutable in the nature of his character. I mean his Character and Judgements do not change for anybody, anything. His "nature"(not his energetics in this case) is constant and eternal.

God's power is active in creation as we're taught, and as we logically deduce. His very power is what makes up the laws of the universe and sustains those laws. He himself upholds the uniformity of directed change in our universe. He is the "unchangeable" changer. "Unchangeable in this case is not referring to energetics. I believe God is not just energy. I believe he is the source of energy. I am not a materialist. I believe in God has "consciousness" behind his nature and energy. It is this consciousness that directs himself of himself. It is this consciousness that is self-existent with his energy of himself. Infinite.

Consciousness is above matter, not confined to it.

So you are wrong as usual.

My main point if you feel too perplexed by many words is that with reference to the bolded, God upholds those laws of the universe. He is the source of those laws. He makes the laws, the laws do not make him.
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PAGAN9JA:
We wasted a lot of time in speculation last year. This year we will work.


2015 in Gods name we will free more souls from the clutches of the carpenter and the camel driver.

you will try

The welfare of my child is one of the highest advances of what I believe in. So your question can make no sense in some belief circles.

And my child will be given the best welfare of all: he will know the truth. He will be blessed to bless others.

plaetton:
Everyday is a new beginning in our constant state of becoming.

Happy new year, nevertheless, to all Pagan brethren, and our lost brothers and sisters of the Abrahamic faiths ( I hope this will be a year of your homecoming )

And I hope this year will be a year of your dropping of sci-fi lookouts to support your faith.

Happy new year old man.

PAGAN9JA:
^we are being sarcastic.

But wat to do now. The system has overpowered us.

If you break away from any particular system and set you thinking on one you claim better, then as long as you're alive and can speak and write, that system can be threatened by you. I'm speaking purely on natural terms of course.

Fight any system that you think is decaying and hampering our development. That is my new year message to you. Happy new year.

PAGAN9JA:
Happy New Year according to oyinbo calendar.

Its 2015.


Now what fellow co-religionists?

Now what what?
Happy new year man.

texanomaly:
Thanks Tovie. Hope your year is full of blessings for you and your family.

Lol Take it easy on laykorn. He means well.

happy new year ma am. Wish you the best.( of course people's definition of the best differ based on the horizons of their respective mentalities but you know...Lol. I just honestly wish you a blessed year)

Its been a long time.

Joshua.

logicboy01:
nope. Being an atheist does not make me more intelligent or moral than a christian/muslim


I am just less likely to have religious baggage cloud my moral/logical judgement

I'm impressed. It seems lb is growing up.

sakaguchi:
There are other tons of old testament and quranic verses where God/Allah acted worst than Hitler.
The big question is... "WHY?"

Your statement here shows that you are ignorant both of the story of Adolf and of the bible.

God never threw away his mercy as he judged those nations with Israel. They were given time to repent. To change. And there're records that those nations were terrible in their ways, and filled with violence and warped men. That's just a brief answer if you want. I assume you're really seeking for an answer and not trying to sway the minds of the weak or ignorant.

Happy new year.

texanomaly:
Josh! Long time my friend. (( ))

hey ma'am.

philfearon:
Remind me again about my first question to you bro?
I know what the bible says about God,and you don't need to start re-quoting it for me again(that's why I said no reference)..
I want you to tell me what you know about God personally or individually!!

No. You don't know what the bible says about God. If you did you wouldn't be asking me a foolish question such as this.

philfearon:
..No reference to the bible please!

Forget about it then. The bible is Gods word. The primary way in which he speaks.

Lolz

philfearon:
Do you know God(Yahweh)?

Yeah. We're tight.

AlfaSeltzer:
Gay. Just like jizz-us

People like you I said. I meant I have a thing for confused, lost people, even those that put up a front of hardness and insane foolishness. I love the joy I see in their eyes when they find truth. I love the love I see inspired in them when they recognize Gods love and blessings for them. I am fulfilled as many are, when a sinner finds grace. And a man is translated into the unbreakable fullness of life and enjoyment in Christ.

AlfaSeltzer:
Only a sadist like you would be comfortable with the mass murder of babies, rape of little girls, slavery, racism, delusions etc that the bible is filled with.

No. Only a foolish, confused and blind man in need of help would turn away from the story of salvation and mercy the bible is filled with.

I have a thing for people like you.

AlfaSeltzer:
Good to know. Glory be to Satan.

No. Bad news for Satan. Lolz. The confused man doesn't even know what's good news or bad news for his master.

With the law was the knowledge of sin. Now we live under grace. And Sin does not have dominion over us! Now we live under grace and the gift of righteousness and we reign in life. When we reign, satan, your master, does not reign. We kick him around and live carefree lives under grace. Hallelujah.

AlfaSeltzer:
If that is so, then why are you bothered with the op?

I thought your god never changes. why are you not comfortable with what he did in the old testament?

About the new testament and its fake love preaching, tell us what Paul said about Cretans.

we are very comfortable. Because we understand. You do not understand. So you're confused and fight to extend your confusion to others.

We understand well enough. We're happy and glad because we're saved. And with people like your running mouths and giving us even more publicity, others will be saved too, as they look for truth. Thank you. God bless you.

AlfaSeltzer:
So, we are no longer under the 10 commandments?

Yes. We are no longer under the 10 commandments.

Krystalxxx:
Hehehe....that's what my brother is doing....he believes in God at this stage and not in religion. Well , I'm not doing any tourist touring.. ...I choose to sit in my religion. No get time for wahala jor

Actually, God has blessed you. So you can understand him. And the good thing is: when you understand him, you realize that he's on our side. Inspire of what these guys yarn.

One more thing: believing in God is not enough. Go tell your bro to believe in Jesus, the salvation of God. These guys here aren't anti-God, though they seem to be. They're actually anti-Jesus. I've known them long enough.

Goshen360:
Noted....

Do you also deny the virgin birth?

OLAADEGBU:
Thanks for bringing this to his remembrance. He has probably forgotten. I just hope and pray that he smells the coffee before it becomes too late.

Its too late.

My guy denies the fact that Jesus is the Only begotten Son of God

Good Old Frosbel now denies the virgin birth. Lol.

I used to say you were like a malformed baby boy. Having so many problems but still alive.
Now I realize that you are inching very close to death. If you are not dead already. For you deny the fact that Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. You therefore deny your salvation and have condemned yourself.

Oh! Frosbel! Who did this to you?
What made you this gullible and foolish to ignore the veracity of the word of God and daily fight against the very God you claim to serve...or have you been like this since? Have you always been a crafty serpent in our midst? Waiting to gain gullible trust and turn peoples hearts against truth?


Truth cannot be stopped. People like me are still alive you know. Too bad.
Truths victory is already won. Victory resounding through the ages.

Straight to the point then: Are you a Christian? The criteria for becoming saved is in Romans 10: 8-13

You cannot lose your salvation by belonging to a denomination, or attending a particular church group or fellowshipping with some particular brethren of like faith, as long as you still believe Jesus is the Son of God who died and rose again for your salvation.

Jesus doesn't look at denominations to count you worthy of salvation. He looks at whether you have faith in him or not.

As far as we believe in the first and only criteria stated above. The differences in denominations is a difference in knowledge.

And its very easy to know which fellowship is gaining ground with the help of God: Stop reading nonsense about issues online and go see and hear for yourself. Let Gods spirit guide you to choose who you listen to.

Where the word of God is preached there will be demonstration of power and blessing.

truthislight:
Denial of what exactly ?

That God will Burn humans in fire for all eternity ? SMH for you.

It's a pity that you have not gotten over this Issue by now with proper research of the Bible.

SMH.

Its a pity you still live in denial over a simple and clear issue.

Hell is real. But the mercy of God is real also. You cannot deny any element of scripture just because you think it 'harsh'

shdemidemi:
^^^^
Who gives these healing and blessing?

Who has the power to heal and bless?

What is the gospel? Is it healing and blessing?

I don't have time to argue.

But yes. The gospel of the kingdom is a gospel of love and salvation and healing and blessing and life. Throughout the new testament we see this. We see God blessing and blessing and giving and declaring people righteous who don't deserve it. That's the gospel. We don't deserve it, but he came to save us TO THE UTTERMOST. HE CAME TO BLESS US AND HEAL US BEYOND MEASURE.

I can only pray that you get to understand Gods message and live life to its full.

frosbel:
Mate , you are very funny.

You are the one clutching on to the bible for your dear life because of HELL. I don't believe in it, so could care less , and therefore no fear resides in me.

Quit worshipping God in fear bro, it will only make you badder and meaner as a person, devoid of love and kindness.

You don't believe in hell. It doesn't mean you're devoid of fear. Just means you're deep in denial.

sunnshyn:
Shebi Port-harcourt is in Nigeria? Come and see churches on the streets of pretoria, you'll be afraid.

I visited MFM on Bloed street Pretoria, just last sunday cos they had a thanksgiving service which I invited myself and fiance to...somewhere during service I became bored as they were trying to entertain and me I needed prayers jor so I thought to myself if I need entertainment I'll go to Hillsong Church...

Anyways, we made to leave, on getting outside, someone else was just behind us, so we cldnt drive out. Looking up, just 500meteres apart, there were up to 5 churches o...all Nigerian Pastors, competing for space on that street...I was shocked!.

God is not an author of confusion I said to my fiance...definitely he cldnt have called all these many pastors to start churches in close proximity like that abeg to be competing for space and loud speakers to attract other people to their church.

Thanks for sharing, I'm still personally seeking the truth...

I don't think you'll find the truth in this thread. If you're looking for truth listen to a truth preacher, like Joseph Prince.

shdemidemi:
Hmm..Do you understand that there is one real message of Christ but millions of counterfeit and look alike messages?

should I accept the proponents of an adulterated message?

No. You shouldn't. But you should get to the word and know the real message. The bible inspires love and faith and gets people healed and blessed.

And supporting that biased and nonsense excerpt is a sign you don't really know the bible. Or you've graciously fallen into denial and error.