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Christianity EtcRe: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 11:15pm On Dec 19, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Egbami o.

What is this madam?
I thought folake was a girls name?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 11:06pm On Dec 19, 2013
Deep Sight: Oh my lawd. You are more lost in your delirium than I thought. That is not what I said at all. I hope you read it again and feel embarrassed. I hope you then see what your obsessive desperation is doing to your brain.

You need to take a full step back, and start your life musings all over again.
grin grin grin

See how I'm laughing like a mad man in the middle of the night. grin

Chei.
Una no go kill peson.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 11:03pm On Dec 19, 2013
Redlyn: grin Unveliveable so many otherwise smart people talk and reason like this.
what is this one saying? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 11:02pm On Dec 19, 2013
Deep Sight: Oh my lawd. You are more lost in your delirium than I thought. That is not what I said at all. I hope you read it again and feel embarrassed. I hope you then see what your obsessive desperation is doing to your brain.

You need to take a full step back, and start your life musings all over again.
grin grin grin

Lolololololololololol

Over-exposure to wordplay like yours does this to people.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 10:59pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: #teamCarpentersForChrist making beds and pillows for tired Christians since 1898

Josh and Atmc go to bed. grin
grin grin grin

Which timezone are you at?
PoliticsRe: If You Legalize Gay Marriage You Must Legalize Bestiality! by Joshthefirst(m): 10:49pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: Hmm.. Is it okay for homosexuals to love themselves but not ok for them to be sexually intimate with each other? And again, you bring up the word natural. Most homosexuals find themselves naturally drawn to men just as you, I hope, are naturally drawn to ladies. Did you ever consciously decide not to lust for men?
whether men or women, both are wrong.
Lust is wrong.

aManFromMars: No he didn't. God told me he created us as free beings and any attempts to cage our sexual emotions is sin. angry
God created you to control your sexuality. A man is not a man by sexual or physical prowess. He is a man through self-control and maturity.
Sex is to be in the confines of marriage, that is its true purpose. God-designed purpose. Do not be rebellious simply because of the temporal pleasures of sin.
Be a man of self control. I know you are a man of self-control. Not ruled by your lusts, not tossed to and fro.

aManFromMars: And what are these disastrous consequences pls? Could you list them? Maybe Man Utd will drop the Championships this year, Or God will send floods and hailstorms to a few third world countries. Maybe it will ignite the Third World War, who knows?
I have stated some of the consequences before here
Feel free to research on more.

aManFromMars: Well, if God wanted us to be virgins till marriage, he would have designed our schlong to only get an erect1on once we sign the dotted lines. Of course, a good and intelligent designer would have thought of that.
seriously? Chill first and tell me if one gets an erect1on only when he wants to have sex first. Again, wanting to have sex isn't bad, sex is good, as long as it is with your husband or wife. Anyother is lust. Imagining and lusting after someone who is not your spouse is wrong. Just because you're tempted to do wrong does not mean we should do so. Look forward to sex after you have married.



aManFromMars: Go and find a Bleep mate bro, just remember to ask God for forgiveness, he's always willing to, ask that COZA pastor.
nonsense. If we continue to make a practice of sinning after being saved, we shall die.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:35pm On Dec 19, 2013
ATMC: #teamstilllivewithurchoicedon'tcomplain
#teambettertomakeyourchoiceGodschoiceandfindsatisfactionandfoundationinsteadofmakingwrongchoicecontrarytoGodscommandsandreapingandlivingwithsorrow.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 9:30pm On Dec 19, 2013
plaetton: I wish you would read your posts to see all the contradictions and circular reasoning.
So, in other words you admit that there are god-lies and god-delusions, but it is only yours that just happens to the true god-lie and god-delusion?
Well done, Josh, well done.
yes. Because the very objective God backs me. It rhymes with his revealed word.

How do you know which is right? By their fruits. The fruit of their lives.
PoliticsRe: If You Legalize Gay Marriage You Must Legalize Bestiality! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:27pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: You truly do not understand what the above implies. Or maybe you do not understand what nature means. Nature is not fixed and static. It is a dynamic system. How can something go against nature if nature does not permit? For one to go against nature, one would have to be supernatural.
Okay, let me rephrase what I said. I mean that they go against natural use of their bodies and go into perversion. God designed our bodies and our sexualities and also put boundaries and limits.

Just because we feel like jumping or we're tempted to jump those boundaries does not mean we should. It will have disastrous consequencies on us and the society.

This applies to both homosexual and heterosexual sin.
We struggle with heterosexual sin, why freely add homosexual sin to the mix and make matters worse for ourselves.
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:16pm On Dec 19, 2013
ATMC: @ujsizzle...marry anybody yhu so choose#teamlivewithurchoice.
#teambeveryverycarefulma'ambecauseonceyouputGodinthemixtureourwishesbecomesirrelevantanditsallabouthimandhischoicenotusandourchoices.
PoliticsRe: If You Legalize Gay Marriage You Must Legalize Bestiality! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:11pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: It is a perversion because Your god said so?
they are all perversions because they are against nature. And you know that. Its not just because God says so. What God says is good for us.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 9:09pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: If God is objective, it is safe to say we will all hold the same concepts of him. No man would need to describe who or what he/she/it is. The fact that people daily feel the need to 'evangelize' this God or prove his existence only shows that God is and will remain an idea that will continue to evolve with us, as long as we do not have all the answers.

Unfortunately, when we do have all the answers, then we would be come God.
nope. The fact that people evangelize this God shows that we must break through the god-lies and god-delusions people like surrounding themselves with and speak the reality of God to them. His largeness and life, confirmed in our words and lives.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 9:06pm On Dec 19, 2013
aManFromMars: If God is objective, it is safe to say we will all hold the same concepts of him.
well, it is unsafe of course. We can easily lie to ourselves and for our convenience, but our lies don't change the truth.







And btw, didn't you notice the joke I just made? Or do you think its easy to tailor that kind of complex joke?
PoliticsRe: If You Legalize Gay Marriage You Must Legalize Bestiality! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:03pm On Dec 19, 2013
Kay 17: However lies and the lack of compassion are just as evil as homosexuality. Homosexuality is as grievous and equal as the smallest sin. So why clamour against homosexual unions when polygamy (another equal sin to homosexuality) has not been eradictaed?!

I smell hypocrisy.
so we should legalize more perversions while we're still struggling with those considered 'normal'?
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 9:00pm On Dec 19, 2013
Reyginus: Hahahohohehe! Me larf yuu big thymes. Afraiding or Afraided, bro? Cee yuu harv grama problem. Koret yur inglish, bro. Bye dee wey, afraid cach small boys. me big boys.
nawa o. grin this your own don pass me abeg. grin grin grin




But byed the ways, did both of yous not knew that these wasn't an complaining threaded? Did yous wanted to be ban for spoken wronged grammers?
Apologized to all of we right now or we willed ban you.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 8:51pm On Dec 19, 2013
plaetton: I have re-read and knocked myself several time in head trying to rejig my loose screws in a futile attempt to understand this statement.

You mean that to know that something exists, we must first know it's full nature?
shocked huh
Full nature of what, then?
How can we know the full nature of something whose existence we don't yet know?

My head is hurting.
I think one of these religious apologists said that thinking gives headache.
I think he is right.
grin

Its thinking about ambiguous nonsense that gives one headaches.
You misunderstood his statement and have been wasting calories racking your head. grin grin grin
He said "is it not possible to know of the existence of something without understanding its full nature".
He did not say "we must understand the full nature of something before it is considered to exist"

That's because the existence of something is ascertained according to the existence of its existing character determined by our own parameters of existentialism and realistic determinationalism. (Its obvious I'm also trying to be ambiguous with this last part of my post. Or maybe I'm confused too. grin )
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Demons Afraid Of Atheists? by Joshthefirst(m): 7:10pm On Dec 19, 2013
Demons most probably already have most people(unfortunately especially atheists) in their stronghold. Why would they bother with people whom they have already warped and cooperatively decieved almost beyond measure?


Unfortunately, even the millions who shout "saumersault and die" in some places are decieving themselves.





[size=4pt]But can you imagine saumersault and die? Nawa o. Chei. Which kind of hellish wish is that? To wish your enemy not just to die, but to saumersault in the dieing process. May God save our minds from people who decieve and exploit, may he show us his true nature(which is obviously not "saumersault and die"!) grin[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 7:02pm On Dec 19, 2013
plaetton: Yeah.
Power in numbers, eh?

It seems now that retards of the same lobotomy flock together.

I should suspend my brain and cast my lot with a bunch of moronic children, mentally retarded juveniles, who , funny enough , have been sold the fairy tales of mentally dysfunctional stone age people, like Moses( an epileptic), Ezekiel (mad man) , Amos (mad man), Apostle Paul (an Epileptic), Constantine( a murderous mad man), and the list goes on.

Keep your silly fairy tales to yourself and you wont ever have to worry about people like me.
no. You should pick your brain up and discard foolish reasoning and speculative nonsense as many over and over again try to ramm some coherence into you.

You who call people who have made others better than yourself mad and epileptic. grin

Yet he claims a bonobo as a cousin and believes consciousness is wave-frequency.
Who claims sending men to space will help us overcome our basic problems. Who claims and blindly believes non-directed non-conscious randomness has created the universe in all its direction and life and order. Who tries as much as possible to "rationalize" wrong-doing as relative and other fanatical ravings. Its not my fault that the truth hurts you this bad. Keep your madness and evil to yourself then and stop zealously spreading it as much as you can then.

plaetton: Why can't your Santa-like god come out and speak for himself.
He needs tons of retards to speak and hate on his behalf.

Good works josh, you are earning your seat in the spaceship jesus.

I just hope Jesus hurry's up and comes quickly and vacuums all of you into the celestial dustbin.
why should Jesus come down to prove himself to you? to you in your arrogant stupidity? who do you think you are?

What pathetic concept have you conjured again? Of an all-powerful God who would stoop to reveal himself on the terms of an arrogant mocker?

Sorry to destroy another of your false and pathetic strongholds, but if God exists(and he does), why would he come by your terms and conditions?
You have to diligently seek him man, and stop decieving yourself in your empty and arrogant words of mockery.

Strong words must be spoken to reach across to those who have thickened their skulls, even Jesus acknowledged that.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 6:31pm On Dec 19, 2013
Enigma: @Joshthefirst

See this. smiley
toh. Gaskya. Wetin man go do. Wetin man go tok when peson don harden his mind.

Thank God I'm not the first to say this. Witnesses have come and gone. grin

Are their minds too callous to think of the amazing amount of people and words ramming their minds and hearts with the same message?

Thank you sir. It seems Josh is not truly the first. He may very well be the last...
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 6:20pm On Dec 19, 2013
plaetton: Yeah Josh. Primitive men of all ages understand this, that is why they sacrificed their children to this invisible sky daddy of yours.

We are very thankful to them, aren't we?
so? How do you tie God's attributes written in creation with men becoming futile in their thinking? The same God punished nations for doing stuff like chuild sacrifice and violent homosexuality and you still complain. Sometimes I lose patience with your pathetic and puerile excuses to continue on in your willful ignorance and blindness. Go on then. Continue.

God works his plans, he doesn't bother with arrogant people or people who don't want to forsake sin sometimes. Infact, he gives them the sarcastic go-ahead. So go ahead then speaking in knowing speculative ignorance. I hope beyond all things that the truth does not catch up with you when its too late.

plaetton: Is your best friend josh hardwired to contemplate that his sky daddy might have been flesh and blood extra-terrestrial biological entities who just awed and wowed primitive humans with space age technological wizardry?

His mind is too juvenile for such.
always contradicting yourself and deliberately choosing a biased interpretation to normal things, throwing away contemplative reasoning and resorting to mockery. Chai.
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 10:44am On Dec 19, 2013
Ihedinobi: Deactivate kwa! Nnaa, what is happens into dis sections biko? Wahayawa de o!

Ngwanu, Ishilove, your turn have reach. The olori she shall take over nau, abi?
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Malachi,Tithes & Devourer: The Silliest Children's Monster Story Ever Sold by Joshthefirst(m): 10:39am On Dec 19, 2013
Pastor Kun: How are you different from the Pastors that twist scripture to state that tithes means money to be paid from incomehuh Did you read any such thing even in the malachi passage you referred to? I really thought you were smarter than this.
I used to think so too grin
Christianity EtcRe: "Why Does The OT Show A God Of Wrath And The NT A God Of Mercy?" by Joshthefirst(m): 10:35am On Dec 19, 2013
Kay 17: ^^^

It is from absolute love, mercy emerges. A just judge is strict and blind to emotions. Such a judge cannot be merciful. So it is either of the two.
it is from love, that mercy emerges. If God is all love, there would be no justice or orderliness in the universe. Chaos will reign. I beg to differ. God is a just judge, he's also a loving father.

Your own words in the bolded show what God has done and will do. What he has done in passing judgements on nations after warning them repeatedly to repent in the OT, what he will do at the final judgement: condemning men to hell for their sins.

The requirements of justice must be, and are always met. Jesus has met the standard in this new agreement, and our faith is in him.
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by Joshthefirst(m): 10:21am On Dec 19, 2013
Maybe ajibam is preparing to resume school after the holidays?
Christianity EtcRe: Prophet. by Joshthefirst(op): 9:47am On Dec 19, 2013
bolaino: my good sire, may the good lord continually bless you in jesus name, this topic is an excellent one, and I am very happy you opened a thread such as this. My brother, God is everything, you can not seperate anything from God, God is in the food we eat. The air we breathe, the water we drink, the music we listen to. God is just too big, you can not even begin to comprehend the magnitude of God. If you want to try to explain God's magnitude, you might Go mad, and my frustration with most christians is that they do not know who God is, they think that God is one small spirit who is wearing white and sitting on one throne.

Smh, if they know who God is, every single minute of their lives, they will be kneeling down and praying to God. I live my life for God. Like I've told my family and friends, as for me, anywhere God leads me I will go, if God says I should go and stay with the aborigines in australia and preach the gospel to them. I would run there this very moment, I dey fear God bros. Who no go no know, like my warri brothers would say. God is just too much. Words can not really explain the concept of God.

Thanks for the thread, it's a wonderful thread, may the good lord continue to put his words in your heart. I have been seeing your posts. And I really appreciate you my brother, I pray that God gives me the patience that he has given you. Cos I get angry when I try to tell people the messages that God has revealed to me about them, and they tend to take it non chalantly, I just pray that God doesn't take most of us non chalantly the way we take him, cos if he takes us non chalantly, na die be that ooo,

many people do not know the spiritual battles that God is fighting for them every second, and they will be in their homes, and be insulting our creator, by not obeying his words. It is well. May the lord help us all in jesus name.
amen my brother. Thank God for you. God works in us. We are not perfect in ourselves, but in him. God is bringing us up. He is truly God. Let us have his real image of splendour and love. Let us shine as light and walk down the middle in this godless and perverse generation. Thank you for encouraging me.

May we be the witnesses Jesus commanded. Witnessing to the world the reality of God, fitting into his plans and purposes and not our own, may we grow in him and work out his salvation.
May we walk in the reality of Gods word
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 12:40am On Dec 19, 2013
Mr Troll: yea I forgot, they're not true Christians.
they're not acting like christians for sure. Either that or general shephard still has that "enemy everywhere" mentality. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Contradictions. by Joshthefirst(op): 12:37am On Dec 19, 2013
Mr Troll: seems you're too afraid to look at the evidence then. A simple question and you're trying to dodge. Go through that site, next time you say any ignorant thing about evolution I will e-slap you.
thank you for your concern. But genuinely, I've gone through many sites and books, and all I've sen are speculations of what happened over a period of "millions o' years" and glaring misinterpretations of the fossil record, speculation and blind faith growing in leaps and bounds.

This is against the scientific method itself.

I'll keep posting contradictions here, until either I, or someone else is cleared.

Goodnight sir.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did God Do These Things? Inviting Reyginus And Any Other Interested Parties by Joshthefirst(m): 12:31am On Dec 19, 2013
Mr Troll: huh

Are you saying you have no idea what is good and just? Misjudge it? Guy, you're a poor apologist. Wtf?
grin








You sound like logicboy.

Abeg me sef I no understand wetin oga rey dey tok. Make him comot come explain am abeg.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 12:25am On Dec 19, 2013
Deep Sight: The bold in red is the saddest part: namely that the materialist atheist infers or states that such are nothing but the work and product of tiny pieces of matter, which, for their own unknown purposes and motivations, collectively work together in an intricate system to deliberately produce such. It's unthinkably and lamentably st.upid, that they cannot discern the clear evidence of a personal being existing therewith, and the aggregation of matter about it, which is called a body, being nothing but its material support system for life in a material world.

The eye.

The eye is more than enough food for thought - not its unfathomable complexity - which is quite another proof, no, not even that: rather the fact that it represents perception through sight - and this is only possible to a personal being. To see a thing, a feel a thing, to hear a thing, to smell a thing, to taste a thing: these faculties are only possible where there is a being that is seeing, a being, that is feeling, a being, that is tasting, etc. The physical apparatus by itself can only transmit and interpret signals - if there were no being to experience the interpreted signals, there would be no experience.

Which is why I refer thinkers to meditate on the corpse. To observe its as-built functionalities and ask themselves: WHAT were those functions serving?

They are only functions built for a being.

This is the simple, plain and evident truth that any child can see and discern; however, as the saying goes: a little learning, is often a terrible thing.

What can I say?
Joshthefirst: A bible quotation to spice things up. Does it not strike you that these ancient words seem even more current and applicable to our society?

Romans 1:18  For God’s [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. 19  For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them. 20  For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], 21  Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened. 22  Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].

Written by paul, who didn't know much about science and contemporary atheism. Do these words not strike you as unusual? How can this man speak words that apply to us enormously and currently in this way? How come he explains what we know is true?

May God have mercy upon us, may we change our ways and stop forming smart guys for a timeless God and his timeless word.
this implying of God in our consciousness and by visible creation and consciousness itself holds great measure of seriousness and arouses a great many questions. The enormosity of this fact changes everything about one who has been speaking and believing a lie all his life. There must be a conscious creator, why did he create? What has he got to do with us? Why are we conscious like none other? What should our relationship with this creator be? Is he knowable? ............

The bible stands foremost for me. The words are truly Gods, standing the tests of contemporary aging, speaking words of sharp reality.
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 12:13am On Dec 19, 2013
texanomaly: It's from Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol, Scrooge says, "Bah humbug!"
errmm...okay?
grin

I'm off to bed ma'am. Have a beautiful day/night. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Logicboy and other Atheists by Joshthefirst(m): 12:09am On Dec 19, 2013
A bible quotation to spice things up. Does it not strike you that these ancient words seem even more current and applicable to our society?

Romans 1:18  For God’s [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. 19  For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them. 20  For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], 21  Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened. 22  Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].

Written by paul, who didn't know much about science and contemporary atheism. Do these words not strike you as unusual? How can this man speak words that apply to us enormously and currently in this way? How come he explains what we know is true?

May God have mercy upon us, may we change our ways and stop forming smart guys for a timeless God and his timeless word.
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Joshthefirst(m): 11:59pm On Dec 18, 2013
Mr Troll: you misunderstood her comment.

That aside, your comment is hopelessly naive. How old are you?
yes. I meant that christians wouldn't seek the suffering of anyone, talk less of a relative to try to prove "God".

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