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OlaoChi: English Bible is pure poo, Yoruba Bible would be worse.

One thing is you shouldn't claim Olorun has same with Jehovah because they are not

striktlymi: I do not agree with the bold. A law against Gay marriages, necessarily infringes on individual rights, imo.

texanomaly: Hi Josh. How are you?

Logicboy03: haha lol........that's nice


I'm just kidding about the date. I dont even email people off nairaland. The only person that I actually email is Muskeeto and I regretted it.

Kay 17: Now we are at an important junction. We both agree an infinite regression would occur except there is a final cause. Most atheists are of the belief that such a final cause is arbitrary because its complexity goes unexplained. So atheists say the final cause can easily be God as well as the Universe or a Multiverse, since such a cause is arbitrary.

OlaoChi: Anybody can be called the creator even Satan can be called creator and Jehovah called the rebellious son

Which Almighty God are u talking about?
1. Olorun
2. Chineke
3. Zeus
5. Odin
6. Izanagi
7. Jehovah
8. Allah

There's many almighty God so choose one

OlaoChi: Allah is not Hausa it's Arabic stop forcing a God on people

Allah is very different from the Hausa God

And why don't u serve Olorun(A Nigerian God) since u know He is the creator why sell out your country for Israel?

You talk of Abraham, wats Olorun's business with Abraham?

plaetton: @josh
So, for fear of infinite regression,we must, as a Necessity, create a god.
Is that what you are saying?

OlaoChi: I won't argue with you

But answer this.... give me one name for the God u believe in

rationalmind: Saying God is uncaused, uncreated, self existent is actually a logical fallacy called Begging the Question a.ka. Pettitio principii

BEGGING THE QUESTION



here is another that drives home the point better



in essence, you have just assumed God is uncaused, uncreated, bla bla bla, without any single evidence or logic to back it up. Saying its an implied attribute of the starter also begs the question and means nothing.

The implication of your argument is, anyone can simply say any uncaused, uncreated thing caused the universe. I might say, Zeus is the uncaused, uncreated being, platteon might also say, the spaghetti meatball is the uncaused, uncreated being. We all will end up begging the question

cyrexx: Indeed, this statement is golden and should be engraved on the golden sacred tablets of eternal wisdom.

That's why I worship NOTHING (which is roughly a synonym for mystery)

Cos
According to religious folks...
1. NOTHING is greater than god
2. NOTHING exists before god exists.
3. God is created by NOTHING
4. God's wisdom is inferior to NOTHING
5. NOTHING is beyond the omnipotence and omniscience of god.

Therefore NOTHING is the true god that created the universe, the uncaused Cause and the Prime Mover and this god is far far superior to any Allah and Yahweh.

plaetton: Classic olodoism.

Can I use my children's story books to show proof that Santa is not only real, but also Omni present, omniscience and omnipotent?

Secondly, if you cannot show or even speculate as to who or what created god, then it is silly to promote the idea that god is the first starter.
Have you ever heard of infinite regression?

OlaoChi: U reading from a Jewish book wat do u expect? The Jews would claim their creation is supreme.

I read a book on Greek Religion and Uranus was the creator of the universe

In Yoruba, Olorun is the creator so how can u prove that the true God is none of these but Yahweh

rationalmind: I airkorie cannot think of any other explanation for the "order" of the universe, therefore, God did it.

Look at this hypothetical scenario from the fourth century



I hope you can see parallels between both scenarios. If you can, great. If you can't, pathetic.

rationalmind: as empty as usual. Emptiness is innate in you. De-activate this account and register with a new username "emptiness"

rationalmind: what of the hair between your legs? What is it doing there? What about your moustache? Isnt God wonderful in his designs? Oooh, he is

macof: So God doesn't even care

aManFromMars: If you are worried about the kids, the kids will grow up and make their own decisions. I come from a Christian family and I'm atheist. I've met Christians from Hindu families, even Muslims from Christian families. The truth is love, chemistry and relationship between two people isn't science. If you marry one because of his/her 'religious' beliefs, what happens when you find out other traits he/she might exhibit that you detest? There are some habits that are tougher to change than converting an unbeliever. It could even be something as simple as sleeping position, hygiene or the way he/she sneezes. Lol.

Those who choose to marry a Christian should feel free to do so. There is nothing wrong in that just like those who have limited their prospects to a particular tribe. But no marriage will be sustained by beliefs alone.

Logicboy03: Sometimes, you christians abuse God more than atheists


You claim that God has commanded that believers shouldnt marry non-believers because it wont work.
You also claim that light can not meet with darkness

1) There are christian/atheist or christian/muslim or christian/buddhist marriages that have worked without divorce. Take for instance, Bill Gates and his christian wife. So, you are making God a liar/wrong about christians not marrying non-believers

2) I like how you relate disbelievers with being in darkness.


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Look, at the end of the day, people should marry whom they want after they have considered their hearts and senses (compaitbility).

aManFromMars: erm, make I find trouble small.

You see people like Josh will end up marrying someone with good and noble intentions. Of course, the girl will be sucked into his idea of a GODLY marriage, and quicker than OlaAdegbu can find a picture for this topic, both will be at the altar taking their vows (probably presided over by Obadiah).

2 months into the marriage and Josh begins to notice things he hadn't known about the Babe. Maybe she has this high-pitched laughter that makes him embarrassed in public. Or she's quite stubborn, and una no say when strong head like Josh jam another strong head, na grass and plantain leaf go suffer.

But with God all things are possible, right? Josh finds himself under a burden; as a 'model' Christian, he is not supposed to divorce. What kind of message would that send to those who currently look up to him? His wife would also be going through the same dilemma. They could talk about it, decide to change, all good and nice, but things could only get worse. They'd try to mask and ignore it but deep inside that love and zest has faded.

Essentially, they remain married on paper but divorced in 'spirit'. Returning home from work is delayed for as long as possible and the strain in their relationship begins to tell on the kids.

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make i stop here.

Josh, no hard feelings....

Logicboy03: Also,

Marriages fail for the funniest of reasons at times

-Guy's mother too disruptive
-Inlaws and parents want male child (and the couple already has 4 girls)
-The wife got fat after marriage/pregnancy but cant lose weight
-Two virgins got married and now, one feels that they are not se.xually compatible
-Husband is a dictator (but acted like a nice guy throughout courtship and enagement)
-Wife gets destroyed by brainwashing prophet/pastor
-One spouse leaves the house church for another denomination

^^^
these all happen in christian marriages...even other marriages too

plaetton: You are just an "oh yes" member in this discussion.
A yeoman, a backbencher.

So you laugh whenever we tell you to laugh.
Understand?