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Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 10:18pm On Nov 05, 2015
Emusan:
Answer me: you believe Jesus is a God, then is Jesus a true God or a false God?
Luke 18:18-19

And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him,“Why do you call me good ? No one is good except God alone. "

Since Jesus didnt refer to himself as Good , can we conclude Jesus is a Bad person ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 10:12pm On Nov 05, 2015
Emusan:

I Am that I Am

Alpha and Omega
The Beginning and the Ending
Ancient of day

You need more?
Good ! After introducing himself as the I Am that I Am , he further state :


"
And God said moreover unto Moses,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of
Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers,
the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac,
and the God of Jacob, hath sent me
unto you:
this is my name forever, and
this is my memorial unto all generations.
" - Exodus 3:15 ASV


The bold reveal him as Jehovah , The God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob .

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Now since you Emusan has help us identify who Jesus refer to as the only true God , lets go back to john 17:3

" their taken in knowledge of you , the only True God [ the I am that I am , Jehovah , The God of abraham , Isaac and Jacob ] and of the one whom you sent , Jesus Christ " John 17:3

The True God is now identified as , Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob .

NOTE : He sent Jesus , infact jesus is his servant ...

Thanks Emusan . cheesy

"
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
The God of our fathers, has glorified His
servant Jesus.
You handed Him over
and rejected Him before Pilate, even
Though he had decided to release Him.
" - Act 3:13 BSB
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 8:12pm On Nov 05, 2015
Emusan:
The only true God!
What is His name ?

Answer me: you believe Jesus is a God, then is Jesus a true God or a false God?
We can only address this question when we have identify the only true God .
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 3:48pm On Nov 05, 2015
Emusan:
Nursery school student question!
Some Nursery school and higher institutions student are taught that Brahma is the creator of heaven and earth , some are taught that "Ptah" is the creator , some are taught that Vishnu is the creator of heaven and earth . Tell me , who is the creator of heaven and earth acording to you ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 5:49pm On Nov 04, 2015
Emusan:
The Creator of heaven and earth!
Who is the creator of heaven and earth ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 8:07am On Nov 04, 2015
Emusan:
Are you honest with yourself?
Answer me , Who did Jesus identify as the ONly true God ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 7:17pm On Nov 02, 2015
Emusan:
@dolphinheart

I've read it now?

Like I said the booklet has a lot to do with the issue at hand, that's why I want you to read it because by the time I start making reference to it, it won't be strange to you.

My view on Trinity is the general view held by all true Christian in the world.

There's ONLY ONE TRUE GOD which scripture reveals in the person of The Father, The Son and The Holy spirit.

So I'll reply your post when you're ready.

I just need Yes or No!

Less I forget, mention the scripture you're going to use for me I will use any of this KJV, NIV, NASB, YLT, NLT, CJB, ESV, NKJV, ERV, EXB, GW, ISV, PHILIP, TLB, NIRV, NLV, OJB
Be honest , who did Jesus identify as the " ONLY TRUE GOD" ?
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 7:13pm On Nov 02, 2015
Bro , here is your first post that led to my question :

Living4christ:
The purpose of his death is to make us holy to inherit Gods kingdom
From this post above , we can see that you are telling us that if Jesus did not die for us , NOBODY will be holy to inherit Gods Kingdom

To avoid confusion , i asked further : who re the us ?

And u replied :
Livin4Christ
All Humans (God's Creation)
Clearly , then it means none of us ( all humans) can be holy to inherit Gods kingdom without Jesus dying for us .

We can now ask : why would God allow unclean humans like Noah to make heaven ? Remember they are unclean since its only the death of Jesus that will make humans holy.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 6:59pm On Nov 02, 2015
Living4christ:
Genesis 5:24

Sorry the underlined word is enoch not methuselas.
Does that mean he didnt die ? If he didnt die , then you mean the scripture is lying when it said death spread to ALL Men ?
Rom 5:12
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 7:25am On Nov 02, 2015
FrancisTony:
"Is It Not Written in your law that " ye are gods"

Re: the small "g" and pluralisation of g(G)od.
" Ye are Gods " theos . the original greek doesnt differentiate "g" from "G" !!! Work of english translators .

The greek said " ye are /theos/ " . Thats the point . cheesy

In a family, there's father, mother & child making up one family unit.
When the child tells his/her peers that (s)he's going back to his/her family, it has not in any way dissociated him/her from being among the family unit.
The child Makes it clear that his father is more than that , infact " My God" Joh 20:17

I couldn't find anything of such in the bible verse you cited.
Jesus Have A God in heaven

" Next , the end , when he hand over the kingdom to HIS GOD and Father " 1 Cor 15:24 can you see ?


Jesus authority does not include the one who subject all things to him - 1cor 15:27 thats superiority !!!
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 6:00pm On Nov 01, 2015
Francistony
People said but Thomas called Him, which He ought to rebuke as He always do if He's not God.
Is It Not Written in your law that " ye are Gods" ?

Lol , even humans are Gods , so why would he rebuke it when the law itself said we are Gods .

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The point remain that : Jesus declares he has a God !!! " I am going to MY God and your God " ( John 20:17 )

His human nature had God same way He had a mother .
Baseless , so that means You and I have God because of our human nature ryt ? grin

Jesus have a God ! Simple .

Even in heaven , he has a God superior to him ( 1 cor 15: 24,27)
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 5:52pm On Nov 01, 2015
FrancisTony:
Philipians2:6
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider [size=40]equality with God[/size] something to be used to his own advantage.
@ bold >>> Footnote : or in the Form of God . (NI
V)
He is in the form of God , the nature/form of God is " spirit" john 4:24 , even angels share the same nature as spirits . Does that make them the Almighty ? Start thinking

Some humans will also be ressurected to live in heaven , and they will also be " partakers of the DIVINE NATURE " 2Pet 1:4 . I guess those humans re Almighty Gods since they now share the divine nature of God ?


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Coming to earth , Jesus EMPTIED the divine nature and became human . If u claim he came to earth with the divine nature , then you mean scripture lied that he emptied it .
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 2:51pm On Nov 01, 2015
FrancisTony:
It changed something.
He manifested in two nature i.e He changes to "any" anytime it pleases Him.
While praying, His human nature was manifesting and prayed to God.
Lie @ bold , " he came as a man" phil 2:8a .

There is a form of God = Divine nature

There is a form of slave = human nature .

He emptied his divine nature before coming to earth , emphasis on " empty"
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 2:46pm On Nov 01, 2015
FrancisTony:
At least, the preceding verse you skipped proved that He's God which you've failed to admit on here. grin
Show me the preceding verse that said HE IS GOD ?

The point is clear , he emptied himself and came to earth as a Man not as a God-man.

John20:28 - Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God
People said paul is God too , do you belive that ? Act 28:6 .. So I have no problem with thomas statement since God in that context doesnt refer to the Almighty ! In that same chapter Jesus reveal that he have a God (john 20:17 )
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 2:05pm On Nov 01, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
myth ? Oh Jeez I'm arguing with an atheist about the Trinity . You have to be kidding me shocked . Anyways we'll continue this discussion when you become religious - muslim or christian .

I can't deal with your forceful assertions ,false perceptions and misconceptions right now . No no no I don't have that time to waste
grin , you wnt to run away because he is hammering the point that you profess 3 Gods

Evidence of three GODS :

God the Father is DIFFERENT from God the son , and this two are different from God the holyspirit ? Yes or no
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 2:00pm On Nov 01, 2015
FrancisTony:
Jesus manifested as both God and man while on earth.

Go figure!

" NO , but he [size=26]emptied himself [/size] and took a slaves form and became human ..... He came as a man "
- Phil 2:7,8

Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 6:08am On Nov 01, 2015
dolphinheart:
@ kingEbukasBlog

1 . I asked you :
Is the father and Jesus two
different persons in heaven or
exist as one person?

You answered


I did not ask you about entity or entitities, I asked about person(s)
......................................


I asked you :
So anybody that says "I am is
god abi? If not, then saying "i
Am" does not prove you are god.
By the way, I want you to point
out where the holy spirit said " I am".
You answered :


Bro, my question is clear enough!
.......................................

I asked you :
So when Jesus ascended to
heaven and god told him to sit at his right hand, was god talking to himself? Or was he conversing with the other person of the same person in another dimension?

You answered :


Bro, ur answers are off the mark!
Hehehehe , dont mind the guy , he doesnt know what he is talking about . grin
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 7:24pm On Oct 31, 2015
Malvisguy212 now i know you people dont understand indeed . Of cos most trinitarians claim they dont understand what they teach grin

Here is a brief summary of proton analysis

~ the FATHER is God (1)

~ The Son Is God (2)

~ The Holyspirit Is God (3)

3 Gods indeed , lets make it clearer

~ God the son is DIFFERENT From God the Father ? Yes Or No ! If yes , we sucessfully identify two Gods .

~ God the son is DIFFERENT From God the Holyspirit ? Yes Or No ! If Yes , we sucessfully identify the third God distinct from the other two.

The Gods Identified :

~ God the father . (1st God)

~ GOD the son . (2nd God)

~ God the Holyspirit (3rd God)
Christianity EtcRe: What Does The Bible Teach About The Trinity? by Jozzy4: 7:08pm On Oct 31, 2015
plappville:
Did Jesus teach the trinity? Something you said it's beyond mens understanding, why teaching it to men?


Just a question: do we have to believe in the trinity to be saved? If yes, bible proof pls. Thanks.
The bold is a very good question . When you dont understand something , it simply means you dont know it .

Contrary to their delusion , Jesus said " we (clearly include himself ) worship what WE know" john 4:22 not some absurd concept called a mystery .

Clearly , Jesus have a God superior to him . { 1 Cor 15:24, 27 }
Christianity EtcRe: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by Jozzy4: 6:43pm On Oct 31, 2015
Beautiful Analysis , @ Proton

The funniest part is that according to this people , God while on earth is actually praying to another God .
Christianity EtcRe: Was Satan By Default An Angel? Prove It If You Think Jesus Never Exist As Angel by Jozzy4:
Let the scripture speak for themselves , 1 the 4:16 clearly reveal that the voice of the arch - angel will raise the dead in Christ , Will Jesus Rent the voice of an arch - angel and contradict his statement that the voice of Jesus himself will raise the dead ? The logical conclusion is that the voice is that of CHRIST .


johnw74:
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
None , because
The Father regard Jesus as his " Angel " Mal 3:1 , and not a son . Thus the Fathers proclamation was made when Jesus was a man

" this is my son" - matt 3:17 after his baptism.

Heb 1:13 But to which of the Angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Its A Question, Nd The Answer Is :

His firstborn son and chief angelos,after proving faithful (heb 1:3b
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 8:13pm On Oct 30, 2015
Princewell2012 and Mizjanet ... come and see your friends here . Can you imagine that Abraham bossom is a Figurative Expression (which means it not to be taken literally) , yet this people will tell you that the fire of hades in the same parable is literal . Very funny

Story of richman and lazarus

Abraham bossom = figurative

Fire of hades = literal .
Random selection grin
Hypocrites , if one is figurative (symbolic) that renders everything figurative and if one is literal that renders all as literal .
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 8:04pm On Oct 30, 2015
Ebony7:
Re: "Abraham's Bosom"
http://biblehub.com/greek/2859.htm

1. the front of the body between the
arms hence ἀνακεῖσθαι ἐν τῷ κόλπῳ
τίνος, of the one who so reclines at
table that his head covers the bosom
as it were, the chest, of the one next
him (cf. B. D. under the word ), John
13:23 . Hence the [size=25]figurative
Expressions, [/size]
ἐν τοῖς κόλποις (on the
Plural, which occurs as early as
Homer, Iliad 9, 570, cf. Winers
Grammar, § 27, 3; (Buttmann, 24
(21))) τοῦ Ἀβραάμ εἶναι, to obtain the
seat next to Abraham, i. e. to be
partaker of the same blessedness as
Abraham in paradise, Luke 16:23
;
ἀποφέρεσθαι ... Εἰς τόν κόλπον
Ἀβραάμ, be borne away to the
enjoyment of the same felicity with
Abraham, Luke 16:22
(οὕτω γάρ
παθόντας — according to another
Kai . See the color , see how u nicely render the story as parable , so Abraham Bossom is a FIGURATIVE expression ?
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 7:46pm On Oct 30, 2015
Ebony7:
It seems u get a kick from misquoting me. Again for the avoidance of doubt, I've requoted myself.
I didn't say what u quoted! I only reaffirmed that Jesus Christ was/is the only recorded being with record of preexistence. As for Abraham, there's no Biblical record of him spiritually existing before Abel. What I'm saying is, God can do whatever pleases Him!
Thanks.
Oga , any idea that doesnt have a biblical record is an error .


Haba! God didnt do such... No wonder she called u heresy master , Jesus makes it clear that he is the only person that come from heaven ( John 3:13 )
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 7:26pm On Oct 30, 2015
Living4christ:
The purpose of his death was to make us
holy to inherit God's kingdom, so a man with the fear of God was considered worthy then (those days), because the bible said that "by the fear of God man depart from evil- Proverbs 16:6."
Stop giving this girl more reason to mock , who are the US ?
Christianity EtcRe: How To Make It To Heaven!!! by Jozzy4: 7:03pm On Oct 30, 2015
Living4christ:
Mind you, Jesus was saying, "No man has ever ascended to heaven [s]and come back to declare them the word of God, [/s] (No man on earth and still alive), because the bible said that God took methuselah, was abraham before methuselah.
This is why athiests and freethinkers bash christianity ......... Must you twist everything , the cancelled word is a deliberate insertion by you to cover the clear truth of the verse .


Show me where scripture said GOD took methuselah ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Difference Between Hell And Hell Fire. by Jozzy4: 9:32am On Oct 23, 2015
trapQ:
May God bless you abundantly.
Heaven and hell are real. I don't know where they got the "no hell" concept from.

God help us all.
Revelation 20:14 - Hell will also go to hell , how real is that to you ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Wrong With Guys Putting On Earrings? by Jozzy4:
Its wrong ; as a man , can you put on an earring to a Job interview ?


" not all things are advantageous"
- 1 Cor 10:23
Christianity EtcRe: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by Jozzy4: 7:15pm On Oct 10, 2015
Richirich713:
If that's not giving or sharing his glory then I don't no what is?
Cuz God clearly says he gives his glory to no other.
Jesus says God must glorify him WITH THE GLORY HE HAD WITH THE FATHER.
Had means he returning the glory which he shared with jesus!
Do you see GIVE HIS GLORY OR SHARE HIS GLORY in the verse ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by Jozzy4: 7:00pm On Oct 10, 2015
dolphinheart:
Thank god, you did not see the word "almighty god" in those verses.
Lol
Christianity EtcRe: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by Jozzy4: 6:57pm On Oct 10, 2015
Richirich713:
[b]Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory which I had with you before the world was made.” [/b]John 17:5
So where his GIVE his glory here ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by Jozzy4: 6:28pm On Oct 10, 2015
Richirich713:
Then why is a "mere man" saying he is the 1st and the last"
There is a big difference between how God describes himself as first and last and how Jesus use it !!!

Why is a "mere angel" saying he is the God of Abraham, isaac,jacob.
Jesus is the servant of the God of Abraham , Isaac And Jacob ( Act 3:13)

Why is the father giving his glory to a another when he said he gives his glory to no another!
Give his glory ? Show me that from the bible .

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