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MuttleyLaff:
@dolphinheart @paulgrundy
The bottom half of the above post is so muddled up one doesnt even know anymore who actually said what or didnt say what

PastorOsamede:
My paymaster, wait for me at your doorstep. I am running down with the answer.

PastorOsamede:
Why are so many of you disturbed whenever speaking in tongues is talked about? Does it mean what you do not have, others too cannot have it?

Any reasonable reader will understand that I was not even discussing the gift of tongues. I only highlighted it as one of the most obvious manifestations of HOLY GHOST Baptism. Read the topic and the message again please.

By the way, what is your grouse with speaking in tongues? I detest arguments about things that are clearly written in the Scriptures. Please if you just want to argue, don't drag me along...go alone. Happy Sunday!

Originalsly:
I'm not here to argue....but for you to defend what you are saying. Didn't I quote what you on what you said was your objective? I challenged you on what you said....why can't you respond directly?...didn't I ask direct questions?...why not address those instead of sidestepping and making it personal? Let's deal with the message and not the messenger. Again.... can you speak in real tongues as the deciples did on the Day of Pentecost? ...is that not what you said you were going to teach? Can you? I dare you to answer.

johnw74:
You appear to know nothing at all
and of course you don't believe the Bible.

Ecc_12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

As for the rest of your posts,
so much twisting and confusion, as in this your post quoted.

johnw74:
I understand her, the spirit is given from God, it is called "ruach" in Hebrew, and it means breath -spirit of a rational being

Now a rational being can think, one needs to be able to think to be able to reason.

johnw74:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God(theos), and the Word was God(theos).

The Word Jesus Christ is God

johnw74:
You go on and on and on with lies when the issue was made clear long back
MzNelly wasn't talking about the air we breathe
the thread is about "soul" and she bought "spirit" into it
.

MzNelly was talking about the spirit in man that is from God
and that goes back to God
Stop your lies, and twisting things around.

johnw74:
Stop with your lies I showed that more than once, and stop changing the subject.

again: spirit in Job 27:3 and elsewhere is "ruach" it means "breath-spirit of a rational being"

I have shown with scripture that the spirit(ruach) does indeed think,
Which you ignore and post back babel-confusion.

johnw74:
Truth has no need for forgiveness, it's true that those who belong to the sect that call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses are antichrists
quote:
Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness' organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking?
https://carm.org/is-the-jehovahs-witness-religion-christian

Jozzy4:
@ Anas09 , thanks for your input

But I pick another translation and see HADES , are you saying the King James Version is wrong for rendering hades as hell ?

And pls my second question is : what is Hade's ?

MuttleyLaff:
I wont go into the different things aspect
however ''christian caught to heaven'' and be forever with God,
is the same as with a bride rushing into the arms of the Bridegroom and forever be with Him

I wonder why you neglected reflecting on the bits that preceded the underlined
Anyway, this is a classic example of randomly quoting bible verses
and not understanding bible verses, the context, the idioms or the prevailing culture of the time behind and surrounding the verses

People go away to prepare a place or build a house, so that where they are, their bride may also be

MuttleyLaff:
As you like it,
but it still wont stop this Bridegroom from take His bride on a honeymoon

You need to go on a speed/crash course, to learn on how to, on all levels, understandably read the Bible

Compare 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 ''always be with the Lord''
with Matthew 28:20's ''I am with you always''

Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you.
And be sure of this:
I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
- Matthew 28:20

paulGrundy:
so now the problem is how you want it rendered. interesting. just so you know scriptures are read in their context. ok lemme give another point to attack in v5 of mattew 17, a voice spoke out of heaven which said this is my beloved son in whom am well pleased-- the same thing that happened when Jesus was baptized. can we say that Jesus' baptism was a supernal vision too?

johnw74:
antichrist supporting jw fellow antichrists

johnw74:
How can anyone get this:




From this:






2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

MuttleyLaff:
Biblical rear-view mirror will fix this problem and eliminate blind spots such as these

No it doesnt because Heaven is a necessary honeymoon, a trip to return back from, come down, back to earth to

No, because God is loyal to the truth, He cant lie.

Answer to this, is same with the honeymoon response given above

OLAADEGBU:
Haven't you elevated Mary to a deity?

" and death and hell were casted into the Lake Of Fire" - Rev 20:14

Abi ? Here we see hell going to hell to be burned ! can someone throw light on this ? How can fire be burned with fire ?

What does it mean that hell go to hell

Anas09:
When the pope said, The Church' he is not refering to the body of Christ as awhole. He is talking abt the RCC. It has taken the place of God/Christ. Behind 'the church is Mary. The Catholic Church doesn't recognise any other denomination other than RCC. And pls be adviced, RCC is not Christianity. It is a distortion of Chritianity.
Mary is their goddess.
They belive in the virgin birth of Mary. And they believed she died a virgin, even wen the Bibles states clearly that Mary had other children Lk 6:3.
They make her divine so that they can worship her(Queen of Heaven) Jere. 7:16.
Their relationionship is with mary not with Jesus. If u don't believe and treat mary as they do, then u r not saved.
Checkout their Jesus, is either he's a toddler in a craddle or nailed on the cross. Ask any Catholic if he/she is expecting the second coming of Christ and hear what they

johnw74:
Yes I know, it is the Spirit of God in people that she says cannot feel or think,
And you agree with her,
of course I'm not surprised at that.

Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man : and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

paulGrundy:
Adam, Eve, the people of old old testament prophets before jesus' death have already been immortalised and judged and have been to heaven or hell,

they are no longer in the grave. Those who died without hearing about jesus will be judged by their conscience or the law romans 2:12-14. I have done an extensive researched online before coming to make posts.

Jesus was clear when he said;

Mattew 25:41;
...Depart from me ye cursed into everlasting fire..

Rev 20:14, death and hades cast into the lake of fire simply means that at that point they are no more (explained it to jesciha). Lake of fire is a literal term because we have a extensive list of scriptures that confirms that.

paulGrundy:
Yes of eternal fire.

Jessicha:
Hahaha , hades means grave and GRAVE will be tortured in a literal lake of fire ? Rev 20:14

Jessicha:
Hahaha , hades means grave and GRAVE will be tortured in a literal lake of fire ? Rev 20:14

paulGrundy:
you will do well in responding to my posts without insults. fire is infact the means of destruction in that passage, it was never contrasted.
2 Peter 2:6-9King James Version (KJV)
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 7King James Version (KJV)
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Matthew 25:41 - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
the event at sodom and gommarrah is a shadow of how hell will be like.