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E for many or to denote respect to ederly, so i suppose Eku Ojo ibi.

playing arround with your lady friend, just to make her laugh and make her head swell, as if you are interested , but actually you are not. My own meaning

As an appreciation to Seun's work on nairaland. Nairahost Nigeria Web Hosting would like to offer a free 10MB space, 1GB transfer, 4 Email accounts, 5 Subdomains, 2 Ftp account, and 24/7 support featured linux web hosting account plus one .com,.net,.org, domain name of your choice for a year.

What does this mean?
You get your own website hosted for free, for a year.
You get your own domain name, that is yourname.com or whatever.com for free for a year.


How do I get one?

All you have to do is, write one paragraph, stating what you would like to do with the domain name and website, and if we like your reasons, you would receive an email with you web hosting acccount username and password, with your registered domain.

Please send also with the domain name you wished registered,

Rules.
1. there are no restrictions to what you use the package for, you can use it for your personal interest, or for your business. As long as it is legitimate, you might qualify.
2. Decision made by me and Seun is final.
3. Applications must be received by Aug 5th.
4. Send your applications to kayode.muyibi (at) gmail.com or seun.osewa (at) gmail.com

Linux Support Thread, hear we go. Dem people are goooooooood.

It is a marketing strategy to avoid scaring potential customers away. When you come in and apply, then they would try convincing you, what the returns is and your possible way of raising that capital, besides other areas of seeing you go ahead in investing in the franchise. They dont want to scare you away with price tags.

Well so to speak, i am really impressed. Frachise home made company, impressive.

Stocks again goodness. Seun made some points there, but i think he didn't hit on it on some areas which i would try to tackle though i am not really good with technicalities.

Now first of all, i am not Robert Kiyosaki's fan, I have read all his books. from poor dad rich dad to guide to investing or whatever. I was even signed up as as an INSIDER member once. Now I wouldn't want to go on criticizing him, because he really did a good job in helping people change their paradigm, in relation to what businesses is all about, and the way to plan your financial account. But in relation to real estate and stocks. I think i should reserve my comment.

Now back to the issue on stocks. I don't even know how to start tackling it, because from what I have read, a lot of you guys have got the entire idea of investing and returns wrong.

And I would explain that by hitting on my reasons why I do not invest in stocks and at the same time tackling the real truth about stocks.

Most people invest in stocks to earn profit, but most people that become millionaires through stocks bought more that 10% of the companies worth. they didn't buy meager shares like you guys are currently doing. Most actually bought into the company and had a say in the companies operations, and they were millionaires already infact. So becoming a millionaire through stocks is only possible, if you are an investor in the companies startup, through a cheap offering, that eventually grows after the company goes public.

Now I don't have that kind of money to invest, that would make me a millionaire through stocks, besides the fact that I still have a lot of my personal plans that i am still yet to finance properly, which disables me from investing into another company that would eventually go public.

Price fluctuation in stocks especially cases of prices of stocks going very high all of a sudden, are governed by many factors which doesn't really have any connection with the companies operations. One of the factor is

Rumours of possible strategic expansion or is some cases arquisition of the company. Mind you that doesn't mean higher dividends, that means higher possibility of profit through that strategic expansion be it through acquiring another company and energizing.

The other factor might be, high demand for that particular stock due to rumours or people trying to convince you that stocks is profitable. Meaning if you convince your friend to buy that particular stock, he tells another friend and the process goes on in promoting that particular stock, and thus the demand for that particular stock goes high, and the price gets affected.

Now the thing about meager stocks is that your returns are very little if they are for investment proposes, can someone please tell me the returns of 100k naira yearly from dividends?, and thats the case of only if that company declares dividends in returns, and doesnt convert it to extra shares, which comes in ratio to your particular units. which for a 100k worth share in respect to the units wouldn't be much. Maybe 5000 naira, thats only 5% of your investment annualy!!. Thats nothing, compare to your investment, you can do better investing into fixed deposits. And thats really not very common. Maybe if you are investing in IBTC, there is a possibility, because i heared that their mutual funds are quite fruitful, besides their minimum investment cost of 50k naira, which if i have would invest into something more reasonable, like buying and selling services.

Now i do have a lot of friends that deal daily in the stocks and forex market, infact I played in the forex once. And they are quite well to do, due to the fact that they spend almost half of their worth, gambling daily, in fluctuations. Not because they study the companies profile or something in that relation. Most daily traders, do not give a Dem about the companies background etc. What they do virtually is gamble with fluctuations using formulas. They call it technical analysis.

And what they do infact is forcast, and that actually affects the price of that stock badly. They are those that either make you rich or bankrupt. The daily traders, can buy and dump and do whatever they want just to get it their way.
And they are the rich ones, they are the ones that do not have money to buy decision making shares, and really make a lot of money through the stock market.

I think i have said enough in that relation and besides the fact that the returns are too small, that you can do better investing in in fixed deposits in the banks. If you have the money to have shares that would allow you to have inputs in the companies decision making, i would say, go ahead, especially if its a company with a good infrastructure and good standings.

But if you do not have that kind of money, and you are not a gambler, i would advice you to keep away from stocks as investments.

Playing in the stock market is virtually gambling in disguise, and can burn you badly if you are not careful.

Well that was a good post you have in The Nigerian Police Force: How do you view them?

bioye:
A first-class product may deliver on the job, but he may still be corrupt? I am yet to fathom a solution to the moral decay.

Exactly !! . But then you still insist on the investment into the education sector, I really wonder why? . Education doesn't play any role, in making the country less corrupt, and thus that doesn't solve the problem, we are currently in. What we need to be on the way to development, and ensuring enough jobs for everybody is an uncorrupted nation, where projects can be implemented without the contractor, paying bribes, and at the end not even implementing the project.

My answer to this, is, privatize the entire government organizations such as NEPA , NITEL. And even the Road Building and maintenance sector, and the whole problem of corruption would be solved in the sectors of maintaining and implementation of projects. In a privately maintained organization, if you are corrupt you get fired, How many people would want to get fired? But in a government organization, what happens, if you are corrupt? People praise you.

I used to talk all night with my friends, especially girls, when I was in high school. It only costs 1.28 USD [here in Malaysia]. The rates are applicable, from 12am - 6 am. But as a foreigner you have to deposit around 257 USD to get a fixed line.

The reason was because a lot of foreigners just leave the country without paying bills. The deposit is refundable when you want to leave. Besides that, your line only gets terminated after 2 months of not paying bills. The service is quite good and reasonably cheap.

Thank you brother[b] KA[/b]. This education issue, sha. Do you know how many Nigerian graduates with Bachelors, are jobless? Or you would say their problem, was, they didn't get educated whilst in university? because honestly i still don't get the link. Oh forgotten, they are not competent, but yet some of the incompetent ones still get employed. I would really appreciate more inputs from Nigerians staying in Nigeria, especially the "educated" ones in this forum.

So you are telling me the organized mechanics, plumbers. etc in Nigeria that happen not to be educated and fortunately are doing fine, should go back to school and learn, then that would give us the pre-requisite to becoming developed? . USA, is a good example just like you said, but are they not developed? Dont they have jobs available, that people wouldnt even think twice when giving the chance to explore going to seek for a job there?. We are missing the whole point here.

I think even countries like Uk etc, wouldn't agree on your idea of educating the masses. Thats why i think they have unemployment salaries i guess.

Now this is what you said for my reference.

bioye:
1 [/b]yes, education [b]is the solution.

2 Low quality human resources is the problem.

3 education is the only long-term cure.

3 the US has a similar problem today.

So what are we saying here? you guys are just speaking english, i dont really get you.

So the government should invest in education? What kind of education and how. Because i know the annual budget on education yearly is 100's of millions. Education is the key to solving unemployment?

Well really can you guys tackle that. I would really appreciate. And thanks Jogego, you have said it all.

Well one thing i know of well, is that you have to build a house first, before you start living inside. Or even not to talk of even maintaining it. So build the house first, and do the rest later. Training of the Nigerian masses of how to maintain and use the infrastructure?? you kidding us right?.

Well on that issue, i would say privatization would solve that. Its not the govenments duty to provide services, it is their duty to provide the means to ensuring its citizens have that service. The government should contract roads to private companies for example, and the private companies can earn from tolls in major highways through a specific no of years, before removing the toll gates, and also, they could use the money received from the tolls to maintain the road. Malaysia does it and so far its working. Private companies, build the road and maintain it for 7 years, by earning from tolls. After the 7 year period, its re-contracted again, and the project goes on. And thus a good well maintain road is ensured.

Charging reasonable fees would solve the problem, the same goes for electricity and water. Privatization is the key. If you then say but is it not the same Nigerian citizens that are going to work in those companies. Well i would like to point out that companies like Globacom don't have problems with staffs following company regulations. And thats applicable to any industry maintained by a private body.

I should be excused to say No, our government should now waste money investing in things that wouldn't bring any benefit to the nation.

That is male gender supremacy for you.

From what i can tell , we really haven't even explored a lot of industries in Nigeria, and even those we explored, we have not make fully use of its potential. Therefore we haven't even reached 5% of our totally capacity in terms of industries. We are not developed. We are not even industrialized. And yet we complain of unemployment.

Cases like Japan, are special cases, because they have reached the max of what they can support in terms of industries. So really thats really something we have to realize in that sense.

Now Jogego said in relation to lack of basic infrastructure, he is absolutely right. And thats our key to solving the unemployment problems in Nigeria. Once we have regular electricity, water and good roads, and of course we should not forget the easy one, ensuring regular availability of fuel, which comes as a bonus , because we are the sixth largest producer of oil.

But there is a clause. We all can try the little we can, because Rome was not built in a day. But as in terms of unemployment, it is a problem, but if we look at it closely it is not a problem at all. I hope you get what i mean

Be yourself, don't fall in love in haste, and surely you would attract the kind of man.

All those "How to attract your kind of man for dummies " doesnt work in real life. Because humans are different from one another, we react to things differently, we have different tastes. One thing that would attract one man is the same thing that would repel another man. we are unique creatures of God.

For Ladies? hum why

Chai, people. why would someone have to look inside the same house again. Well humans can be very adventurous.

Well I think its more of the Elder sister's decision. If she is cool with it. Why not? I mean you wouldn't want to marry her younger sister without her consent, especially if you want to be in good terms with her and her family. If she approves, then you are free to go ahead.

The issue of good and bad omen is more of superstition don't you think

How do you know they ensure Happy Marriage, when you are not even married yet

hopy2005:
, don't you know that an ideal man is the devil's workshop, and some ladies takes it as an advantage over them, as house boy, after all, you can't do with out me So.

"that saying na greatest grand papa saying and he don die". Watching cable, playing with your children is not being idle, you are doing something.

House Boy? That kind of mentality does not work in my world. Get a maid, if you think you are a house boy. That solves it. Anyways its going to be great staying at home.

Cant do without you? you must be kidding. Not going to work and staying at home does not necessarily mean the guy does not have a source of income, and if it does mean he is not earning. Its up to the lady to decide whether she minds him staying at home or kicking his ass out to work.

Chai, all i hear Niggy nah grammar, there is nothing new about what you just said. As i said before, i use linux too both on desktop and in my remote servers, but its not my primary operating system. And i love windows still. Period

By the way who cares about creating their own OS. I wonder. Well as for me, i am a user, not a creator, nor do i have plans to be one. I guess thats why i am losing my coding skills. hehehe. Anywayz just be cool. Abi you be an open source paid promoter

what is the difference?

You can take care of the kids? you can watch cable, you can run home based business . Infact I plan to stay at home, when i get married. Nothing like waking up in the morning and going to work.

As long as she doesnt mind, whats wrong with it?

hum what did Bill Gates do to all of you?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS STILL ROCKS !!! whatever you say to support open source wouldnt change the fact that windows is user friendly, the softwares running on them are readily available and people would continue to use it.

When you say Buka all i remember is my first and last time of eating in one, it happened in Osogbo *Osun state, and the more i recollect all the pain i under went, it scares the creeps out of me, "I got food poisoned !!", and from then on, i kept a safe distance from anything with the name Buka.

That is not your design o. devacenigeria.com uses the same design

Thank you bros. You said it all.

But peter u said "like myself" , but you didnt tell us about yourself. I wouldnt classify it bragging and would really appreciate if you explain what you mean by being comfortable as par your current status.

Well i think there is something wrong with that opinion, that religious discussion in an intellectual manner, can lead to bad blood and bitter quarrels. Every semester there is an inter-faith talk in my university, and so far, they havent been a quarrell or blood shed.

All i can tell is when it comes to religion, Nigerians in particular always have this thing about them. Either you join them or they assume you are going to hell. And whatever you do must be wrong, the way you think must not be correct, because you don't share the same faith.

I have heared some Nigerians telling me , hey you look like a christian (how does a christian look? for Goodness sake). or even the way they treated me (so differently), just because i didnt go to their church or something in that matter. The same applies to Muslims, they are the same. Especially if they are Nigerians.

Actually i didnt belong anywhere, because one i wasnt some intense practising Muslim, and thus i wasnt accepted. Though i am very versed in my religion. Just that i think there is time for everything. I know some people would say
"Gba Jesu si aye re" meaning Accept Jesus in your life. Well Nigerians do not respect each others religion, and i stand by that firmly. Well, all i have to say is Nigerians dissapoint me, when it comes to religious issues.

We really need to open our mind in that relation. If you are one of those i mentioned, please change for the better. If you are not, keep up the good work. We all know ourselves well.

Just curious, how long have you left Nigeria? And where are you located?

I am asking because of the kind of negative impression you have instilled in you about Nigeria. And people like you together with Nigerian Journalists have really caused a lot of damages to that great name Nigeria. Instead of promoting the good name of Nigeria abroad, you go on blabbering about the bad part of Nigeria.

Why not talk about the rich cultures arround us, like other eastern countries do? That doesnt mean they do not have The Violence or so called Absurd Reality. I am really dissapointed.

I am sure that if the topic of this thread was 'do you want to become rich?', a lot of people would respond saying "I just want to be comfortable".

Well I have heared a lot of people saying that all they needed was comfort in life, or even "I do not need all the riches in this world". But never have I found a single person in this category of people, that could define what comfort to them means, without seeing them stammer.

Well I am yet to find one actually. Maybe it is you? who knows? I think when someone says "I just want to be comfortable" that person does not really know what he or she wants. That Person is confused and is avoiding being tagged as greedy because he or she actually wants the riches of this world.

Because to be comfortable in life means a lot of things. Things like Fulfilling ones desires and and dreams should be included, Besides having the ability to buy whatever someone wants. And the list goes on and on.

I think comfort in life cannot be attained without riches. Or do you have a different or similiar opinion in regards to that? what do you think?. Let me hear from everybody .

As long as our judiciary system doesnt change to the Shariah judiciary, i would be cool with it. Otherwise i would get the US citizenship i have been procastinating to obtain.

What would you do if you find out after waking up in the morning, that one of your hands is paralised?

Dem some Hally Berry Fan!! Did u ask her permission ??