₦airaland Forum

Jakemedg:
Seeking independence from a sovereign nation isn't a problem but how you go about it .Nnamdi Kanu can't sit in London shouting for Buhari to grant him biafra . For a country to be formed that country must be recognized in the international community.

Good you mentioned Britain

Nnamdi Kanu does not want to sit in London and call for Biafra, if thats what he wanted, he would not have come back in the first place when he was arrested. He is in London because they sent Soldiers to his house to kill him for no just cause. There would be no point him coming back to be killed

joeyfire:
This day in 1967 Gowon declared war on the East. He ordered the 1st Division led by Col Shuwa to attack through Garkem, Benue State and Nsukka.

True, they shelled Garkem and thats when the civil war started

Joylove2324:
Nnamdi kanu shot himself in the leg, he might have been expecting something different from the prophetess but the real vision hit him hard. Hope he and his blind followers recover their lost senses after this.

How is it blind following for a group of people to seek their independence from Nigeria?

Was it blind following when Herbert Macauley, Zik, Awolowo and others were seeking Nigeria's independence from Britain?

Prompto:
What a sad day indeed !


A day a deluded fo decided to wage a war he never prepared n lost over 5 million of his tribesmen. The amazing thing is many of his tribesmen claim they nearly won the war, beat the chest as inventors but at the same time claim genocide.

I wonder how they just can see the contradiction in a of this. Azikwe n Ojukwu need to be dug up from their grave to be burnt in a furnace along with iron rod n their relative banished till eternity from Igbo land for the suffer they make ibo suffer.

Freedom is worth any price

All I know is that we Igbos must one day become free and independent of this failed British colonial contraption called Nigeria

Bulleye:
But Ipob hate speech and propaganda is not what we need.

Try as much as possible not to come online to show how shallow minded you are. There are many communities burying loved ones every day who wish Boko haram were just engaging in hate speech. There are many families burying loved ones who wish killer herdsmen were just throwing stones. There are many people who have lost their livelihood and become refugees in their own country due to the many armed thugs with AK47 out there

So if your own concern is about IPOB hate speech and stone throwing, then you need to get a life, and a brain to go with it.

I wonder why anyone would be asking if Nigeria is a failed state when it is the poverty capital of the world. There are more poor people in Nigeria than anywhere on earth but some people still wonder if Nigeria is a failure?

Nawah

Mace0lane:
Hong is part of a bigger China, how come Igbo land is not showing similar Stat since it is only a part of Nigeria. It is Amadioha that will strike you dead if yoi reply with an excuse.

You people have no shame. You are asking why Igbo land has not matched Hong Kong of just 7 Million people when your entire Nigeria with 200 million people and huge landmass has not matched Hong Kong?

Shameful!

Since when has landmass become an achievement?

Kinematics:
So what has Enugu and Abia achieved even with their small landmass?

How can they achieve anything when they are in Nigeria where nothing ever progresses? If they were an independent country outside Nigeria, they would have done much better

CodeTemplar:
SE is real small. I can't fathom why six states are being agitated for.

States are based on population, not land size

Cyprain Ekwensi was a great novelist. Ojukwu appointed him information minister of Biafra. When the war ended, having lost everything, rather than beg anyone for favours, he started selling plastic bottles until he got back on his feet.

Mark of a great Igbo man who wants to his own master

Switzerland has a population of 8 million people and is the size of Abia and Enugu states combined. But Switzerland is 13th richest country in the world and has a larger GDP than Nigeria


Landmass is never an achievement

MetaPhysical:
So you think they would be happer under Biafran enslavement?

Has Biafra apologized to the Niger Delta people?

My point is that their situation did not get any better in Nigeria. They are still enslaved in Nigeria and their resources stolen. So what is there to celebrate?

Jesusloveyou:
buhari can not kill anybody even as a soldier.

the soldiers only go against terrorist ipob after the terrorist ipob sacked and burn down police station

Ok, you mean that Buhari has no problem sending the Army after IPOB for burning a Police station but Buhari has a very big problem to send the Army after his Fulani herdsmen brothers who are armed with AK47, killing people all over Nigeria, raping women and burning down communities? Wonderful

Arthur Eze is a Chieftain of APC in Anambra, he literally sponsored the APC candidate in the Governorship elections. So it is not a surprise for Arthur Eze to be singing the praise of his party leader

Bulleye:
Ndigbo should be part of the solution and not part of the problem Nigeria is facing.

Yeah, Ndigbo should be part of the solution while they watch different armed bandits from the North kill everybody

Tranquill:
Vaa is come in Ikwerre
Some also say bia.

Did you say that come is vaa in the Ikwerre language? The Ikwerre girl in the video was asked what 'come' is in Ikwerre and she said "bia". I have been to different parts of Ikwerre like Elele, Choba and Diobu and always say Bia, not vaa

Bulleye:
What Ndigbo fails to realize is that Ipob propaganda and hate speech is triggering ethnic nationalism all over the country. And Ndigbo may be at the receiving end with time.

Oh really? And other armed groups like Boko haram, killer herdsmen, Niger Delta Militants and all the armed bandits in the North that are killing people daily are helping to build a strong nation?

Someone is talking about IPOB propaganda, hate speech and the throwing of stones in a country where other groups have long taken up arms and are massacring people with reckless abandon?

A country where other people are carrying AK47 slaughtering people, raping women, burning down communities but another persons problem is hate speech and the throwing of stones?


Common sense can be a rare commodity

When it comes to an Igbo man becoming president, one ignoramus will write:

The way forward for us is obviously not ethnic politics, which has held us down for years. As I said in my previous article, ‘We.must renounce our tribal identities; I’m Nigerian Not Igbo’, we must begin to erode ‘’tribal identities’’ and to build the ‘’Nigerian identity’’ to make progress as one country.

But if it the turn of the Hausa/Fulani man or Yoruba to be president it will be "change"

Coldie:
At a time when there was no oil, there was no states. West as a whole was administered by a central body, that means all the resources in the entire west was administered by one central body in the west, the reason for the cry for state creation was because that system wasn't favourable because the resources couldn't go round, and some regions ended up marginalized same as what happened in the north and east.

Tell me which resources have been found in the east and the eastern government tried to exploit it and the FG was against it, tell me let it not be based on ipob stats back it up with a link. Cause I know apart from oil the fg right now is not really interested in other resources for the time being, so if its like that the SE has nothing to worry about as they are a marginal producer of oil and gas.

What resources does the SE want to control that the FG is stopping them? Right now is the FG stopping the SE from taxing its residents?

If right now the taxes from the SE thats controlled 90% by the SE leaders is very small do u think it would change overnight?

Are u aware that the SE is the least populated region In Nigeria?

All these wishful thinking and cry for restructuring and secession doesn't favour us at all one bit but u guys are too much in a hurry, not knowing u are on a march to commit suicide.


If anything I said here is wrong prove me wrong, show me a link on the internet where an eastern governor was crying that the fg is stopping him from harnessing his resources

You still dont get it? It is not the job of anybody to support anybody. It is not the job of the SS to support the SE or the job of the SW to support the NW. It is for everyone to support themselves by controlling whatever resources they have on their lands, human or natural, pay an agreed tax to the FG and keep the rest for their development. Thats what a federation is all about. There are many people who would have opted not to be part of Nigeria had they known that their resources would be used to support others.

If we agree that Nigeria is made up of 6 Regions, Nigeria must be restructured so that those 6 Regions will have full Regional government, full resource control and tax raising powers. Everybody should develop according to their ability and whatever God has blessed them with. The FG can keep control of things such as defence, custom and immigration, external affairs. The 9ffice of executive President and commander of the armed forces should be abolished and replaced with office of prime minister who is head of government and a ceremonial president who commander in chief of the armed forces. The Senate should be abolished

If Nigeria does not restructure along these lines to give the Regions greater control of land and destiny then s referendum should be held to allow those who are not happy to opt in, or out of Nigeria

IgboPikin:
Chimezie Jude Louis wrote:

IGBO.

Niger Delta Militants carried weapons. They killed civilians and soldiers, we all clapped and hailed their bravery.

Egbesu boys threatened, carried guns and killed; we hailed, jubilated and chopped knuckles.

They all received Amnesty and sent to the western world on free education. They also got contracts to secure oil pipelines.

OPC has been in existence for years. They have fought and killed the IGBO traders in Lagos. They have killed many Igbos since their existence.

They disfranchised the igbos from voting. They have pursued the Igbos out of their purchased properties in Lagos and some other places.
They have always mounted road and street blocks and taxed IGBO traders and importers before they can use spaces to trade or offload. . They gallivant with life firearms, but police dare not interupt them. They received praises and got contracts yet they are friends of everyone. ..

The Boko boys are there. The herdsmen are the kings.These groups receive arms flown with private jets.

IPOB & Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, only handle microphone with mouthwash, flags and banners, and the whole world is letting loose.
They are being killed and targeted. They are called terrorists.

The IGBOs reared up their ugly heads to attack and display their idiosyncrasies.
Do you see the life of people under spell..?
People who collect payment to betray theirs.
He may not be perfect, but what stops your civil advice and contribution in an approachable manner?

Some are standing erect like tiny penis to attack him because he has not identified with their spirituality or whatsoever; and I then ask, will we all be Odinani believers before we can talk about our freedom?

Let Nnamdi Kanu be making that noise. If you have advice, strategy or good contributions, please join him and bring the change you desire in his group.

Please don't shut him down. At least he is speaking the opinions and minds of the majority. He is letting the world and Nigeria know that we are not dumbs even though we are not strong enough to seek for our freedom, but we are not ignorant of the reality.
Freedom is speaking that truth that will hurt the minds of the oppressors.

IGBOs Why are you people receiving payment to betray yours?

IGBOs why?

Remember, it may work out, who knows the plans of the Most High.

I laugh out loud what will become of you if eventually it worked out.

Records hold what such your types passed through in independent nations.

My advice to IPOB and Kanu, start building bridges, but don't be the bridge.

I rest my case.

I may not D'accord in all IPOB strategies, but what is the ideology weighing?

Thats the thing about those who criticise Kanu and IPOB which is laughable. Niger Delta militants, Egbesu boys, OPC, Boko Haram and killer herdsmen have all taken up arms at one time or the other, murdered people, destroyed lives and property. Some of them are still killing people to this day.

But someone thinks that the real problem is Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB who only have microphone and their mouth.


Who is that famous author who said that the two largest things in the universe are outer space and the stupidity of men.

Coldie:
Apart from oil and gas which the fg has control of, the fg has not stopped ebonyi with doing anything with their agriculture, neither have they stopped enugu with doing anything with their coal, Anambra gas is minority controlled by the fg but majority controlled by the state, cause the state used its resources to develop the infrastructure. Thats one if the reason why Anambra isn't listed as a Niger delta state.

So since these states are controlling their resources what has stopped them from becoming the heaven u always talk about. In IMO and abia apart from oil and gas and security the state government controls every other thing, what has stopped them?

I bet u if the FG withdraws its hand from the south east, OK control your so called resources, don't come to Abuja we won't take anything from the east. Can the south east survive for 6months?

Can they pay salaries if civil servants, not to talk of state police in a restructuring.

Or its just wishful thinking that once restructuring comes everything will fall into play over night?


Please engage me don't shy away I really want to be educated on this cause it seems u know so much

You are talking out of ignorance. There was a time that there was no oil and the Regions were surviving without collecting anything from the Federal Government. All the mineral deposits in Nigeria are on the exclusive list and nobody can touch it without FG approval.

The South East has all it takes to survive if it is run as a full Region with Regional government that has full resource control and taxation powers.

Right now, the SE is only a Region in name only and has little or no control over its resources

sageb:
lies! Which 75% and who gave michael okpara the power to control oil revenue? You say you are sorry, you are sorry for what? Oh you should be sorry for your biafrans who lost 3 million souls and their leader Ojukwu ran away. You should be sorry for Ojukwu who despite been a biafran leader could not win a senatorial election in his state Anambra in 1983 losing to edwin onwudiwe. You should be sorry that despite fighting against Nigeria, ojukwu contested for presidency in the same country he fought against. You should be ashamed that an Oxford trained Ojukwu became a slave to a fulani man who had pry6 certificate Shehu shagari. You should be sorry for all these rather than gloating over the Niger Deltans. Kingsley moghalu once said "igbos should stop ethnic noise making"

Go and find out what the revenue sharing formular was before the war and compare it to what it now and you will know how these peoples wealth was stolen.

Dont talk about Ojukwu, at least the man fought for 3 years not be a slave. These people celebrating actually supported and fought for their own enslavement to the North, which makes them far worse than Ojukwu and his people.

Coldie:
We agree but we igbos will resist restructuring.

It doesn't favour us.

If am wrong tell me what u want to be restructured in the south east?

The time the east wanted restructuring has passed.

All we want is for Nigeria to be corruption free.

The SS and the SW are the major beneficiaries of restructuring, while the SE is the least beneficiary amongst the 6geopolitical zones, why then should we take the bait of fighting other peoples fight yet they always insult us for it.

Every man to his house o.

To me every single resources, ports water ways, should be controlled by the FG

The FG has been controlling all resources since the war ended in 1970, where is Nigeria today? It is poverty capital of the world. Only a fool will be doing something for 50 years, it is not working, but still insist on carrying on.

This current system where everyone goes Abuja ever month to collect subvention is what is causing corruption. If everyone was generating their own subvention and not going to Abuja, there woukd have been far less corruption and accountability.

Restructuring is very good for the South East. It is time for Ebonyi to take control of their agriculture and huge solid mineral deposits, it is time for Imo to take control of its Oil and gas, it is time for Enugu to control its coal, it is time for Abia to take control of its manufacturing and Oil, it is time for Anambra to take control of its huge has deposits. These people cannot control anything because it is in the hands of the FG

The era of going to the FG to ask for money, or to rely on other peoples resources should end. Let everyone progress at their own pace according to what talent or resources God has given them. That is what a federation is all about.

Maduawuchukwu:
I do not support restructuring right now. It should come in the future when all regions become viable. That is where we are heading as we enter the post oil economy. When other regions become viable, whether you like it or not, there will be a rise in demand for restructuring. So, instead of you saying that the FG should even assume control over more resources, you should fight for the viability of the East so that when the resource control comes, we will not be left out. Restructuring is a matter of when and not if. We should only delay it so that we could build our capacity and not deny it.
As regards what we have to restructure in the East. Have you not heard that the AKK Gas pipeline is to get its gas supply from Imo state?

You are wrong. All Regions should develop at their pace, that is the essence of being a federation. No Region should be held back by another, or wait for another to become viable. To do that would create resentment, hatred and ill will.

Ever Region should control their resources, human or capital, generate their own wealth and pay the Federal government an agreed percentage. The Federal Government should only be a 'national coordinator' of all the economic and political processes in Nigeria, not an overlord with all the powers in the world. How can you build capacity when you dont control your resources? How can you build capacity when you are totally subject to a Federal government that is so powerful that they can decide if you can even breathe air?

Powers should be devolved down to the federating units of Nigeria or the federating units should be allowed to be independent

Texman21:
so its a normal thing for husband and wife to post bedroom conference on the internet .imagine someone like tinubu or another person doing this answer honestly what will you type on nairaland?.

Kanu was asked about that video and he said his phone was stolen and whoever stole it posted the video. No man will post private videos of him and his wife on the internet, least of all a public figure like Kanu.

Would Kanu really post a video of him and his wife so his enemies can use it to ridicule him? Not possible

I cant remember how many videos where Nnamdi Kanu has said that there must freedom of Religion in Biafra. In one video he even said if one chooses to worship a stick in Biafra, he is free to do so

Nnandi Kanu and Uchechi Kanu have been married over 10 years. The video of husband and wife on their bed having an intimate time showed how some Nigerians can be hypocrites. At first, some rushed to say that Kanu was with a prostitute. When they now discovered it was his wife, they now changed the narrative that Kanu and his wife were commiting sin. Then they said that Kanu made the video and posted it on the internet. Why would Kanu make a personal video of him and his wife and post it online? How is that going to benefit him in any way?

What shocked me about the video is how some Nigerians suddenly acted if they didnt know that what happened in the video is a normal thing between husband and wife. Some people started even questioning why the couple should film as if what they saw cant be seen on a beach or swimming pool. Some even called it porn.

The video showed how much of a hypocrite some Nigerians can be

sageb:
what are you trying to prove ? Boro, saro wiwa and Amadi died as heroes of our people and are celebrated every year unlike philip effiong and co who are not celebrated. We love these men for standing for Rivers people. We love Boro so much that our freedom park was named Isaac Boro park. We love saro wiwa so much that our state poly was renamed ken saro wiwa polytechnic. We love Amadi so much that our RIVCAS was renamed captain Elechi Amadi polytechnic. Finally, we love the number one crusher of biafrans, Gowon so much that our liberation stadium was renamed yakubu Gowon stadium. Biafrans should continue wailing, our stance about them have not change.

The sad thing however is that whatever fear Elechi Amadi, Isaac Boro and Saro Wiwa had about Biafra that made them fight against Biafra, they saw 100 times worse in Nigeria. They were getting as much as 75% derivation in the Eastern Region, they got 0% in Nigeria before going to court to get a paltry 13%. They said that the feared being controlled by an Igbo majority in Biafra, they are today controlled by 3 majority's in Nigeria. They said that Igbos were after their Oil and gas wealth, in Nigeria over 80% of their Oil wells are already in the hands of Northerners. The said that the feared political domination by Igbos, they are now politically dominated by the North. A new federal capital was built in North with their Oil money. Whatever they claim that the Biafran Army did in Abonema, herdsmen are doing everyday in different parts of the South South.

I am sorry for these people, they dont know that their situation got 100 times worse in Nigeria

Today followers of IPOB have done nothing about herdsmen invasion of southeast. This is where they ought to have been very effective because foreigners have invaded Igboland and IPOB has done nothing about it.

What does this one expect IPOB to do against herdsmen with AK47? IPOB is not armed. Security of the South East is the job of government, not IPOB.

People keep talking about Igbo Presidency without looking at where this Presidency has been. The South West have had 8 years of this Presidency with Obasanjo, the North will have had 8 years by 2023. Yet, the Nortg and SW still want the Presidency in 2023. That shows everyone that the Presidency of Nigeria cannot fulfil anyone. The same people who have been holding this presidency for long or short periods cannot tell anyone how that office uplifted their lives.

The Presidency of Nigeria is more about bragging rights than anything else. I have nothing against my fellow Igbo becoming President but let the Igbo nation understand that the office of President is just a temporary position that does not add much value to anybodys life.

The Igbo nation should be talking about far more important things like restructuring or seperation, not the useless office of President of Nigeria that has done nothing but turn Nigeria into the poverty capital of the world

forgiveness:
Who removed resources control between Ironsi and Gowon?

Ironsi never tampered with resource control, not even for one day. It was Gowon who dissolved the 4 Regions, replaced them with 12 states and removed resource control and put all resources in the hands of the federal government