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MaxInDHouse:
TRUTH doesn't have two fractions it's just one single lane, all those on the side of the TRUTH knew, acknowledge and uphold it even when some amongst them are still struggling to meet up with the requirements.
So if you're still confused whether you will find families of the TRUTH perpetually worshiping as members of different religious groups having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines then the TRUTH is not in you.
Only one group has the TRUTH i'm not insisting that you accept JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization as the only group having the truth but don't think two different groups are working for the TRUTH when they're not worshiping together as ONE BODY {John 17:22} there is no denomination in Christianity it's either you fellowship with the true Christians or associate with fake Christians.
Where most of you got it wrong is expecting all the members of a group to be holy and since you can't find such you misconstrue the niceness of people in false religions for Christians in different sect!

One thing is very clear, that is, THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT FOR/OF JESUS CHRIST MY LORD AND MY LIFE?

if questions start to come now you'll disappear or avoid answering them.

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*. Colossians 3:4 "KJV:When CHRIST, who IS OUR LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."

Hallelujah!!...CHRIST IS MY LIFE! Amen!!!!

*. Deuteronomy 30:20 "
KJV:That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: FOR HE IS THY LIFE, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them" (the Father)

*. Psalm 36:9 "
KJV:For WITH THE IS THE FOUNTAIN OF LIFE: in thy light shall we see light." (i.e the Father)

*. Ecclesiastes 5:18 "
KJV:Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of HIS LIFE, WHICH GOD GIVETH HIM: for it is his portion."

NOTE: only the true God is life... only Him can give life!....

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*. John 11:25 "KJV:Jesus said unto her, I AM THE resurrection, and THE LIFE: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:" ( i.e the Son)

*. 1 John 5:20 "KJV:And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son JESUS CHRIST. This is THE TRUE GOD, AND ETERNAL LIFE."

NOTE: Jesus said ...I AM THE LIFE... His Apostle said... JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUE GOD AND ETERNAL LIFE. Think about it!.....

8. FATHER/SON IS THE GIVER OF LIFE:

*. John 1:4" KJV:In HIM WAS LIFE; and the life was the light of men." (i.e the Son)

Acts 17: 25 "
KJV:Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing HE GIVETH TO ALL LIFE, and breath, and all things; (i.e the Father)

*. John 10:28 "
KJV:And I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERTNAL LIFE; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."(i.e the Son)....

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*. Romans 8:35 "

KJV:Who shall separate us from THE LOVE OF CHRIST? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword?" (i.e the Son)

*. Ephesians 3:19 "KJV:And to know THE LOVE OF CHRIST, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God."

*. Ephesians 5:2 "KJV:And walk in love, as CHRIST also HATH LOVED US, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour."(i.e the Son).

Wait for the remaining ones!

7. LOVE:

*. 1 John 4:8 -10 "KJV:He that loveth not knoweth not God; FOR GOD IS LOVE." (i.e the Father)
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KJV:In this was manifested THE LOVE OF GOD TOWARD US, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
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KJV:Herein is love, NOT THAT WE LOVED GOD, BUT THAT HE LOVED US, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
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KJV:Beloved, if GOD SO LOVED US, we ought also to love one another. (i.e the Father).....

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*. 2 Timothy 4:8 "KJV:Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which THE LORD, THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."(i.e the Son)

*. 2 Corinthians 5:10 "KJV:For we must all appear before THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."(i.e the Son).

Other places: Genesis 15:14; Exodus 5:21; Deuteronomy 32:36; 1 Samuel 2:10; Psalm 9:8; Ecclesiastes 3:17; 12:14; John 5:22; revelation 20:13; and more.

6. FATHER/SON IS THE JUDGE OF ALL:

*. Genesis 18:25 "KJV:That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH do right?"(i.e the Father)

*. Psalm 50:6 "KJV:And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: FOR GOD IS JUDGE HIMSELF. Selah.( i.e the Father).

*. Psalm 75:7 "KJV:But GOD IS THE JUDGE: he putteth down one, and setteth up another."(i.e the Father)

*. 2 Timothy 4:1 "KJV:I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord JESUS CHRIST, WHO SHALL JUDGE the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;" (i.e the Son)....

Myer:
Seems you haven't read your bible thoroughly. The way he expresses his love is to make you suffer through chastising. To the extent of having to give your life and all you have in return if he requires it.

A true Christian should actually:

1. Abandon his family and take up his cross.

Matthew 16: 24-25
Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

2. Follow the Spirit any where he is led.
John 3: 5-8
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

3. No longer be entangle with worldly affairs.
James 4:4-5
Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?

That said, the kind of love that demands you abandon your loved ones and passions, sounds more like a hostile relationship.

Hehehe,�, I have asked you to tell me how you got into the faith and how you walked out....

There is more or less errors in your interpretation of each verse.

The summary of the things Jesus is saying there is DON'T PRIORITIZE ANY THING, including your own life.

If you make anything/anyone 1st in your life instead of God, you are an idol worshiper!

How this is practiced: if personal opinion or parental subjections, etc, go against the WORD, you must cling to the Word.

This action or decision have often than not brought displeasure, sufferings and rejection... but it is the will of God that it should be so. God bless you!

bixton:
I'm certain [/b]God revealed it to certain persons but not those popularly known [b][b][/b]so that when you hear it you will not want to believe.


Now it is not the revelation that matters it's the reaction(s) by the so called christians. The drama and comedy that erupted afterwards.

Take a look at Elisha and the Shunammite woman when she brought her dead son to him. What was his reaction?

"I'm certain God revealed it to certain persons but not those popularly known so that when you hear it you will not want to believe."

I strongly believe the above

rottennaija:
Premiered Jul 4, 2020
(Cedars' vlog no. 357) Fresh from offering his unqualified pseudo-psychological wisdom to millions of Witnesses, Gajus Glockentin takes to the airwaves once more to remind followers not to believe any information about the religion that is less than flattering.

See Also
Robert Luccioni: Lies & Misrepresentation

The Truth ( Jesus Christ) Whom they reject will prevail!

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*. Revelation 4:9-11"KJV:And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

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KJV:The four and twenty elders FALL DOWN BEFORE HIM THAT SAT ON THE THRONE, and WORSHIP HIM that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
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KJV:Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Note!
This is Jesus being worshipped.
How do I know?

Jesus (in His office as human being) died.
His death on the cross is one of the reasons He is worthy 'to receive glory and honour and power ' .

You can check Jesus' different offices here
https://www.nairaland.com/6115965/which-following-1-9-jesus

Wait for the remaining ones! �️

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*. Deuteronomy 6:13 "KJV:Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and SERVE HIM, and shalt swear by his name.
(i.e the Father).

*. Psalms 96:6 "KJV:O WORSHIP THE LORD in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth.(i.e the Father)....

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NOTE, He (Jesus) said ONLY the Lord your God you will serve,
consider the emphasis on the word ONLY, i.e no other one should be served.

He then said all the people serving Him (Jesus) the Father will honour them.

If anyone serves Jesus, he's not serving idol. And they are not serving another God...

He didn't use the word God in that place but Father.

Because He (Jesus) had assumed His office as God in that verse.

He said ONLY God you have to serve, and said afterward SERVE ME.

In other words He is saying I AM THE LORD THY GOD whom only you shall serve....

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*. Luke 1: 74 "KJV:That he would grant unto us, that WE BEING DELIVERED out of the hand of our enemies MIGHT SERVE HIM WITHOUT FEAR," (i.e the Son)

*. Acts 7:7 "KKJV: And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and SERVE ME IN THIS PLACE."(i.e the Father)...

5. FATHHER/SONRECEIVES WORSHIP:

*. Matthew 4:10 kjV:Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt WORSHIP the LORD thy GOD, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.(i.e the Father)


*. John 12:26 "KJV:If any MAN SERVE ME, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any MAN SERVE ME, him will my Father honour...(i.e the Son)

Myer:
The concept of Trinity seems to elude most Christians.
There's the God Head, the Supreme being.
Then God the Son, that came to die for man to have eternal life.
Then God the Holyspirit, the Helper, Convicter, etc.

These 3 are different entities but bear witness as one. Meaning they agree on all matters.

They are not the same 1 person. Otherwise it would be wrong for God to say Let "US" create man in OUR image and likeness.

Also it makes no sense that Stephen would see Jesus Christ seated on the right hand on God.

It makes no sense that John in Revelation also saw God and Jesus as 2 separate entities.

I think only JWs and few other people disagree with this truth.

Myer:
9. Jealous

Ok, thanks �️

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Note:
Jesus says I AM HE THAT LIVETH FOR EVER MORE.

In revelation 4:9-11 it's Jesus, God the Son. How do I know?

Jesus (in His office as human being) died.
His death on the cross is one of the reasons He is worthy 'to receive glory and honour and power'.

....*. HEBREWS 13:8 "
KJV: JESUS Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and FOR EVER.(i.e the Son).

*. Revelation 1:18 "KJV:I AM HE THAT LIVETH, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive FOR EVERMORE, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."(i.e the Son)

*. Revelation 4:9-11 "KJV:And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, WHO LIVETH FOR EVER AND EVER,
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KJV:The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
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KJV:Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created....

....Psalms 102:27 But THOU ART THE SAME, and thy years shall have no end.(i.e the Father)

Revelation 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four [and] twenty elders fell down and worshipped HIM THAT LIVETH FOR EVER AND EVER.( i.e the Son).

*. Hebrews 1:8 "KJV:But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, IS FOR EVER AND EVER: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." (i.e the Son)....

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4. FATHHER/SON IS EVERLASTING:

*. Isaiah 40:28 "KJV:Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that THE EVERLASTING GOD, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.(i.e the FATHER).



*. KJV: Deuteronomy 33: 27 "THE ETERNAL GOD is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.(i.e the Father)...

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Apostle John said God KNOWS ALL THINGS;

Apostle Peter said Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS;

That's why FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST IS THE ONE TRUE GOD....

3. FATHER /SON IS THE OMNISCIENT:

*. 1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and KNOWETH ALL THINGS. (i.e the Father)

*. John 21:17 "KJV:He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, THOU KNOWEST ALL THINGS; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. (i.e the Son)....

Myer:
Is there anyone God doesn't love?
I think whats more important is how he expresses this love.lol

And He had died for you - the height of the expression of love.

What do you want more?

MaxInDHouse:
He is a covenant keeping God!

All his worshipers understood the covenant that binds us as ONE from JEHOVAH, his only begotten SON and the entire global family of his worshipers {John 17:22} so we all submit to this arrangement. Hebrew 13:7,17
The written words (Bible) is the main guidebook {John 17:17} those taking the lead serves as Apostles (overseers) {Ephesians 4:12) they're the organizers and all worshipers are in total submission to them. So everything is well organized in an orderly manner! 1Corinthians 14:33, 40
To JEHOVAH whoever turn against this arrangement is no more part of his organized people {John 15:1-10} so such a person is ON HIS OWN! Luke 11:23

That's why Jesus sent us out in search of individuals who will be interested in this arrangement, he calls them the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:6
Thanks!

Jesus ( God the Son) is the covenant keeping God:

*. Matthew 1:22 "KJV:Now all this was done, THAT IT MIGHT BE FULFILLED WHICH WAS SPOKEN OF THE LORD by the prophet, saying,"

*. Matthew 2:15 "KJV:And was there until the death of Herod: THAT IT MIGHT BE FULFILLED WHICH WAS SPOKEN OF THE LORD by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son."

*. Matthew 24:34 "KJV:Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED.
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KJV:Heaven and earth shall pass away, but MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY.(i.e the Son)

*. John 18:32 "KJV: THAT THE SAYING OF JESUS MIGHT BE FULFILLED, which he spake, signifying what death he should die." ( i.e the Son)

Other places: mark 1:15; Luke 4 :21; 21:32; acts 1:16; 13:33 and many more.

....NOTE: the Father sworn that:

a). His glory He won't give to another, see Isaiah 48:11'KJV:
For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY unto ANOTHER.

Jesus is not another, except if say God is lying to me.

b). To his name every knee shall bow

Hebrews 6:13
KJV:For when God made promise to Abraham, BECAUSE HE COULD SWEAR BY NO GREATER, he sware by HIMSELF,

c). God cannot lie

Hebrews 6:18"KJV:That by two immutable things, in which IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO LIE, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us.

If Jesus is another...then God has told us a lie.

Wait for number 3!

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*. Philippians2 :10"KJV: THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;(i.e the Son)

*. Mark 16: 17"KJV:And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY NAME SHALL THEY CAST OUT DEVILS; they shall speak with new tongues;(i.e the Son)
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*. Psalm 147: "Great is our Lord, and MIGHTY IN POWER; his understanding is infinite"

*. Jeremiah 10 : 6 "Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O Lord; thou art great, and THY NAME IS GREAT IN MIGHT.(i.e the Father)

*. Isaiah 45:23-24
KJV:I HAVE SWORN BY MYSELF, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, THAT UNTO ME EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, every tongue shall swear.(i.e the Father)
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KJV:Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and ALL THAT ARE INCENSED AGAINST HIM SHALL BE ASHAMED. ( And I said AMEN!)....

2. FATHER/SON NAME IS GREAT/POWERFUL:

*. Matthew 28:18 "KJV:And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME in heaven and in earth."(i.e the Son)

*. Psalm 29:4 "KJV:The voice of THE LORD IS POWERFUL; the voice of the Lord is full of majesty."(i.e the Father).....

MaxInDHouse:
The bolded clearly defines the God you choose to worship, definitely each worshiper of your God will have to pick whatever he/she is able to grasp and start building his/her own understanding of your mysterious God.
I think that's the one and only beef you have for Jehovah's Witnesses, because our own God has blessed us with a small group of wise men just like the Apostles of Christ in the first century, this men he (God) is using as Shepherds to guide his sheep so that we all have the same line of thought about him {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} that is why all those who want to worship our own God must come under the same umbrella or roof of this foundation.
So next time when you're about to speak against JWs remember that our own God differs from yours who cannot be understood.
JEHOVAH has made himself known to the born again Christians in our midst so they're the ones taking the lead in TEACHING us exactly what JEHOVAH wants us to do so that his people could be well organized in an orderly manner! 1Corinthians 14:33, 40
Thanks!

What are the distinguishing characteristics of this your Jehovah.

My beef with you guys is that you have the Word in your Hands and in your Heads but the Watch tower in your Hearts.

But Heaven bound Christians have the Word in their Hands, in their Heads and in their Hearts.

That is tripple H, just like the Trinity: Father,Son and Spirit.

The Watch tower occupying your Heart is the confusion you are having.

MaxInDHouse:
Is your God partial or biased? I think you should allow Myer to have the same experience as you, i strongly believe he will know how to worship this God of yours after the God has spoken to him like he did to you!

But JEHOVAH our own God has a setting, there is always an arrangement he makes to communicate with his people, all his worshipers must submit ourselves under that arrangement so whenever or wherever we find one another we speak the same thing {Zephaniah 3:9} because his arrangement is to make us all think alike! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10
Thanks!

And from the Word below is the difference between a Christian and others:

*. 1 John 3:10 "
KJV:In this THE CHILDREN OF GOD are manifest, and THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother."