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We are not permitted to know all things:

*. Revelation 10:4 "KJV:And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, SEAL UP THOSE THINGS WHICH THE SEVEN THUNDERS UTTERED, and WRITE THEM NOT.

This is why the Christians who are going into search for more information should be careful so that

they don't cross boundaries!

Golan007:
Be quick about it.

It's alright

He is ignorantly speeding up the Biafran agendas.

If they are no longer Nigerians, then, they must be Biafrans.

It is ironically easy to get Biafran republic established under Buhari than any other person.

BigBashiru:
If Christ want to implement mark of the beast then let Him do so once and for all and stop threatening people with sad apocalyptic tales...

When the weather forecast tell of coming flood, it is not threat...

Take it as you can take the weather forecast...

Prepare for escape!

DappaD:
I saw how you quickly dodged the whole “new heavens, new earth” matter because you aren’t knowledgeable enough to that extent so the real meaning had been hidden from you. Isaiah 6:9,10; Matthew 13:15

Please what is the criteria for judgment in Matthew 25:40? Doesn’t it highlight support for Christ’s “brothers”?
So if the sheep in Matthew 25:33 are already Christ’s “brothers”, why does Jesus still say that they give support to them?

Who is Jesus calling his “brothers”? It’s obviously not the sheep in Matthew 25:33 because he said that those ones give support to his “brothers”. This already means that there are two categories of ‘righteous’ ones. Compare Revelation 7:1-17

That will still bring us to the whole “little flock” issue. Because those whom are the new spiritual Israel are all Abraham’s “offspring” in the sense of being anointed of God’s holy spirit and Abraham’s offspring number into a total of 144,001(yes that’s right, including Jesus Christ) Genesis 3:15, Galatians 3:26-29, Revelation 14:1-5

That’s why he was calling a set of people in Matthew 25:40 his “brothers” because they all had Jehovah’s name figuratively inscribed on their foreheads. Revelation 7:1-8

In what ways do these “sheep” in Matthew 25:33 assist Christ’s brothers? Well earlier, it was prophesied at Zechariah 8:23 that there would come a time when men from the nations would firmly grip the cloak of a “Jew” i.e. the new spiritual Israel[Galatians 6:16] and would go with them into Jehovah’s holy mountain. Isaiah 2:2-4
So these “sheep” give their support to Christ’s brothers by helping them fulfill the command given at Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8.

So as Matthew 25:40 has already stated plainly, your survival depends on you identifying Christ’s brothers and giving your support to them before the time for the final judgment arrives.
2Thess. 1:7-9

Let's take a thing at a time for better understanding

achorladey:
Hope you know they won't come cheap .

No prob, provided no more Halls...

Anyway, when the selling starts in let's know please.

rottennaija:
It's very difficult to post this because of multiple bans. I therefore resorted to creating a Google document that will contain the information with their links.

This is a list of places of worship of JWs (K i n g d o m H a l l s - I'm avoiding using the keyword) being sold by the parent organisation WT. Some are really beautiful halls. But keep in mind, these are halls dedicated to Jehovah. Who in his right mind can sell something dedicated to his God?

The list is complete with links containing the price. Pictures of the halls, when it was sold of it was and those still in the market. So far, the list I prepared contains more than 100 halls but the original contains more than 800 halls.

I will be updating it as time goes on.

Why are they selling them?

To be on the safe side, repeat today and believe the gospel.

Demonic locusts: revelation 9:1-11

- a star (Satan) falls from heaven with a key and loose the bottomless pit.
- smoke comes out of the pit ( the pit is filled with smoke and the place is the prison for demons.
- these are what the science called aliens
- nobody is able to commit suicide during their the time

MaxInDHouse:
I myself wasn't born as one of them!
Just as Rahab acknowledged them and said "i will go with you people because i can SEE that God is with you people" {Zechariah 8:23 compared to Joshua 2:11} Their God greatly rewarded that prostitute, did you know that anytime, anywhere and anyday people talk about Jesus' genealogy Rahab's name will appear in the list? Matthew 1:5
Well that's her reward for acknowledging God's people, apart from saving herself and her family, Rahab's name (prostitute) was written in the book of Life all because she acknowledged God's people!
Thanks my friend and may God bless you!

Another thing I learn from the story of Rahab, the harlot, is that our God does not discriminate,

despite the fact that this woman is an inhabitant of the city marked for destruction.
God has respect for her FAITH, PRAYER and OBEDIENCE.

Note that she was safe/saved while in the city before she finally join the Israelites.

It is WHOEVER WILL my friend.

MaxInDHouse:
The grace is for all because while we were yet sinners God extended his hands to rescue us from sin {Romans 5:8} but the first set to benefit from his underserved kindness (Grace) is the 144,000. The rest are still counted as DEAD (spiritually speaking){Luke 9:60} until after the 1,000 years were ended! Revelations 20:5

So while the first set of resurrected ones (144,000) move directly to heaven, the remaining will face Satan's second phase of temptation and it's only after they're certified before God counts them as part of the living! Revelations 20:6

Please if you feel that you're OK with what you know just leave Maximus alone because the more you ask questions, the more you'll receive shocking revelations of TRUTH!

From the Word, grace has been since the world began - God creating man in His own image is unmerited favor.

Noah found grace in the eyes of God ( Genesis 6:v8)...

The Word says that fullness of grace/ abundance grace came through Jesus Christ...( John 1:16-17).

I'm not ok with what I know, but please tell me something out of the Word. I want to KNOWMORE!

MaxInDHouse:
You're now coming to understand what i've been saying since!
So if Noah was noticed by God as a righteous man. Note that it was God himself that declared Noah righteous in his own generation, people back then will also practice their own form of righteousness but God chose Noah!

what about his wife, sons and daughters in-law were they also righteous than everyone living back then or they RECOGNIZED the means of Salvation (righteous Noah) ?

About Rahab, sure she RECOGNIZED God's people and ready to OBEY whatever they asked her to do so as to save herself and her family!
She wasn't more righteous than other inhabitants of Jericho, and regarding her means of livelihood (prostitution) it's after she joined God's people that she will learn from them what God says about her job so she took action to be on the side of God's people before leaving prostitution!

The I AM THAT I AM does not have respect of persons.

Noah family members obeyed the same instructions as he did.( The best evangelistic results ever)

Lot's wife disobeyed the instructions and God did not consider Abraham and Lot...

If your reasons for being in the organization is because they told you that insurance cover you,
then you have been received!

*. 2 Corinthians 6 :17 "KJV:Wherefore COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM, AND BE YE SEPARATE, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I WILL RECEIVE YOU."

MaxInDHouse:
You're now coming to understand what i've been saying since!
So if Noah was noticed by God as a righteous man. Note that it was God himself that declared Noah righteous in his own generation, people back then will also practice their own form of righteousness but God chose Noah!

what about his wife, sons and daughters in-law were they also righteous than everyone living back then or they RECOGNIZED the means of Salvation (righteous Noah) ?

About Rahab, sure she RECOGNIZED God's people and ready to OBEY whatever they asked her to do so as to save herself and her family!
She wasn't more righteous than other inhabitants of Jericho, and regarding her means of livelihood (prostitution) it's after she joined God's people that she will learn from them what God says about her job so she took action to be on the side of God's people before leaving prostitution!

The I AM THAT I AM does not have respect of persons.

Noah achieved the best evangelistic results

MaxInDHouse:
Are you for real or you're just deceiving yourself?

How can anyone attain the highlighted without ASSOCIATING WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF THOSE WORKING TOWARDS IT? Hebrew 10:24-25

Why deceive yourself? To be righteous and holy is what brought millions together under one umbrella so that those who don't want to comply with the standards remain outside the camp (Organization) of God! 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

".. HOW CAN ANYONE ATTAIN THE HIGHLIGHTED... "

the simple answer given in the Word is ASK AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN YOU" Matthew 7:7

MaxInDHouse:
I myself wasn't born as one of them!
Just as Rahab acknowledged them and said "i will go with you people because i can SEE that God is with you people" {Zechariah 8:23 compared to Joshua 2:11} Their God greatly rewarded that prostitute, did you know that anytime, anywhere and anyday people talk about Jesus' genealogy Rahab's name will appear in the list? Matthew 1:5
Well that's her reward for acknowledging God's people, apart from saving herself and her family, Rahab's name (prostitute) was written in the book of Life all because she acknowledged God's people!
Thanks my friend and may God bless you!

The following are the steps taken by Rahab which led to her deliverance:

- FAITH (Hebrews 11:6): even though she was not there when the Israelites defeated their enemies, she just believe the whole thing (Joshua 2:9-11);

- PRAYER (Matthew 7:7): she made request, she desired, she prayed... ( Joshua 2:12-13);

- OBEDIENCE ( Genesis 22:18; Jeremiah 7:23; John 14:21-24): she obeyed the conditions given to her, this made her to stop prostitution and remain separated ( Joshua 2: 17-21; 2 Corinthians 6:17)

As it was then so it is now WHOSOEVER shall take these steps shall be saved...

That is,- BELIEVE that Jesus died and resurrected for you...( Romans 9:9-10)

-PRAY for forgiveness and grace for new life...( Acts 8:22)

-OBEY the Word of God...( 1 Peter 1:22)

May God bless all who love the Word!
Amen!!

MaxInDHouse:
Just as usual! You don't have questions for me today but to ship in your unfaithfulness!

Know today that individually nobody can meet up with God's requirements for salvation now! That's why those who are chosen for heavenly hope are called by the underserved kindness or Grace of God. God selects them out of his own infinite mercy, but after the destruction of this generation of faithless people God will give us 1,000 years to meet up with his requirements, that's when each one of us must be completely pure as in holy NOT NOW!
What God is looking for in each individual today is the humbleness to acknowledge his Organization and start working out our salvation by taking instructions through that means not holiness! Those whom God declared holy are the born again Christians and he did not because they measure up to his divine required standard but by GRACE (UNDESERVED KINDNESS)

"... GOD WILL GIVE US 1,000 YEARS TO MEET UP WITH HIS REQUIREMENTS..."

Lol!!, another version of purgatory!

You are correct about grace (that is what I see in the Word - Ephesians 2:v8) the Word also says that the grace is for ALL ( not some 144,000 only)
*. Titus 2: 11 "KJV:For THE GRACE OF GOD THAT BRINGETH SALVATION HATH APPEARED TO ALL MEN,"

O Maximus, who should we believe: the watch tower or the Word?

[quote author=reubenobi post=98060472]When I say you are really funny, you thought I was joking abi. So to get salvation, someone must locate the group called Jehovah Witness? May God help your kinds![/quote

Amen!!

MaxInDHouse:
During the day of Noah most people outside the Ark suffered the same evil that Noah and his family suffered from the giants, it wasn't all of them that were evil and not only Noah's family that was good. The only difference is they were able to RECOGNIZE the means of salvation and they acted accordingly! Matthew 24:37-39; Luke 17:26-30
Do you think it was everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah that were evil? NO! But they didn't acknowledge Lot's righteousness so when lot was leaving he called his daughter's suitors but they turned down his divinely given order.
Do you still remember Rahab of Jericho? She was a PROSTITUTE something detestable to most people of her time, do you think people who knew her will like to come and stay with her in her house that's known for prostitution?
Well what made all these people different?
They were not holier than others but they recognized those whom God is instructing for salvation!
Listen to what Rahab said "i know JEHOVAH (your God) will do exactly as he said, but please i'm not against you people, whatever you ask me to do i will do just to save myself and my family" Joshua 2:9-13
So what did God ask from Rahab?
Recognition of God's Organization and humbly taking instructions through that means!
The same is applicable to all the others. If you're thinking some people most be holy before you believe they're God's people then you're lost.
What you should look out for is the mark God foretells about the Organization or Group he will use as the means of salvation!
Jesus is God's son, all what God is requesting from each individual globally is how to recognize Jesus and his group! Failure to recognize them means damnation, no matter how nice or good you may think you are God is not interested in your self assumption. I was still a Muslim when i realized this, that's why i began looking for that group.
Forever nice people will always be found amongst those marked for destruction. WHY?
They failed to recognize the means of salvation!
I have given more than enough signs why JW Organization is that GROUP but if you think that's not convincing enough i wish you the best!

The testimony of the All-knowing God about Noah is " ONLY YOU ( no others) HAVE I FOUND RIGHTEOUS..."
*. Genesis 5:9 "KJV:These are the generations of Noah: NOAH WAS A JUST MAN AND PERFECT in his generations, and NOAH WALKED WITH GOD."
*. Genesis 7:1 "KJV:And THE LORD SAID unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for THE E HAVE I SEEN RIGHTEOUS BEFORE ME IN THIS GENERATION."

O Maximus, shall we disagree with God and accept your narration?

As for the harlot you made mention, the main thing that saved her is OBEDIENCE TO THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO HER

Having short herself in ( one of the instructions), she is no longer practicing the act = repentance!

IT IS HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS BEFORE HIM that will do on the day of judgement!

DappaD:
After saying the highlighted, you’ll still come across Revelation 21:1 that mentions a “new heavens” and a “new earth” and you’ll be puzzled over what they truly mean because you lack the accurate knowledge.
After the 1,000-year rule of Jesus Christ, all who remain on earth will finally be earthly sons and daughters of the true God as that had always been God’s plan. Genesis 1:28

The only separation found in the Word is between sheep and goats ( Matthew 25:32-33).

All the sheep shall be in one place (the kingdom of God the Son) with Jesus...( John 14:1-5; revelation 21: 3; Matthew 25:34).

In the same way, all the goats shall be in one place ( the lake of fire) with the devil...( Matthew 25:41; revelation 20:10-15)

How watch tower wants us to accept it narration more than the Word is ludicrous.

MaxInDHouse:
Apart from Muslims who spitefully opposes the phrase "Children of God" all the religious groups on this planet are claiming Children of God even Guru Maharaj and you can also try Osun/ Ogun/ Obatala/ Sango/ Oya/ Ifa/ Osanyin and so on all these groups strongly believe they're sons and daughters of God!
And there is no difference between their attitude individually and people from all other religions (including Jehovah's Witnesses) the only thing that distinguish JWs from all other religious groups is the LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL reigning in their midst {Galatians 5:22-23} apart from that humans are humans everywhere.
Jesus promised that God's holy spirit will help his own followers to be unique not individually because nice people can be found in all religious groups as well as wicked people but within the GROUP where Holy Spirit is working the whole world will notice a striking distinction! Matthew 5:13-16

"...BECAUSE NICE PEOPLE CAN BE FOUND IN ALL RELIGIOUS GROUPS AS WELL AS WICKED PEOPLE..."
" For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" is God's verdict on ALL ( not some)

All human beings are HIS children by creation...

2nd birth=born again becomes very necessary to be a child of God...

You have never talked about HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS which is the main emphasis God gives in the Word:

*. Luke 1:74 "KJV:That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75
KJV:In HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS before him, all the days of our life."

other places: Hebrews 12:14; Romans 6:22; 2 Corinthians 7:1; 1 Thessalonians 4:7; and many more.

bixton:
I know. Some interpretation tend to be taken literally while some have some of spiritual insights.
We are all learning.
The most important thing is that let us not miss our ticket to heaven or paradise as the case may be. The race is not who knows it all or who is first or last but the one whom God has appointed through His Son Jesus Christ.

It's well...may the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be sufficient for those who ask for it.

See you at His feet...

DappaD:
Ohh but I thought you're of the opinion that all good people go to heaven? Where is this one coming from again? Mr KNOWMORE56 seek the accurate knowledge of the truth so that you won't be swindled by false teachings. John 8:32, Ephesians 4:14
There is no such thing as personal interpretation/opinion of the scriptures. 2Peter 1:20. The truth is only ONE. Ephesians 4:3-6
Seek the truth now so that you might be amongst the millions of men and women on earth who will enjoy the blessings listed at Revelation 21:1-5.

One of the everlasting truth is WHOEVER WILL... apart from the 1000 years no any child of God is given any rulership position. They are all brethren saved by grace.

*. Revelations 22 :17 "KJV:And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, COME. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, LET HIM TAKE THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY."

God is not separating some of his children up and some down.

The angel said to John "I AM YOUR FELLOW SERVANT"

*. Revelation 19:10 "
KJV:And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I AM THY FELLOWSERVANT, AND OF THY BRETHREN THAT HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

so, what do you say is the reason for the separation?

DappaD:
Yes that is your own understanding. Being “born again” is not a criteria for salvation as Jesus explained at John 3:16. Exercising faith in Jesus Christ is a choice that one has to make after taking in accurate knowledge of God and his Son. John 17:3

However, to be “born again” or “born from above” is not a choice one makes by himself. He has to be invited and chosen by God. Matthew 22:14, John 1:11,12

Mr KNOWMORE56, please did you have any say/choice when you were to be conceived and born as a human being? If you didn’t, what makes you think being ‘born from God’ or ‘born from above’ is a choice that one can make willy-nilly?

It's God's plan, then my parents worked in that direction of His plan;
in the 2nd birth, still God's plan, individual walk/work in that direction shall have it granted to him/her.

The idea of the rulership/rulers should be in a different country/city is not in God's plan FOR GOD HIMSELF SHALL BE WITH THEM revelation 20:3
"KJV:And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and GOD HIMSELF SHALL BE WITH THEM, AND BE THEIR GOOD."

DappaD:
Do you think that this teaching of a “little flock” and “144,000 bought from the earth” started with the New Testament?

No. In fact, the vision that Daniel saw in the chapter 7 of his book sheds light on this long before Jesus made that statement in Luke 12:32.
So Jesus was saying that his apostles and others would be given a Kingdom and he was only reiterating and expatiating more on Daniel 7:27

The JPS Tanakh(directly translated from the Masoretic text) puts Daniel 7:27 this way:

“And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.'

This tallies with Jesus' statement at Luke 12:32(NASB)
“Do not be afraid, little flock[144,000 holy ones], because your Father has chosen to give you the kingdom.”

It also tallies with the vision given to John at Revelation 7:1-8.
The highlight of the matter is that a few(144,000) would be given the Kingdom to be kings, judges and priests over the earth. Revelation 20:6

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If every righteous person is to be in heaven, why does Hebrews 2:5(Amplified) mention a coming inhabited earth? Why does Revelation 5:10 says that some would rule over the earth?
The Bible is clear that the earth is mankind's home forever and countless billions doing God's will are going to inhabit and live forever on it. Psalm 37:29, Isaiah 45:18

Most of you just feel like the accurate knowledge isn't necessary. You just want to run to heaven but you have zero idea about the assignment of those going there entails.

One of the things that is so clear to me from the word is the word WHOEVER as found in many places in the Word...

In my own understanding of Daniel 7:27

"KJV:And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him."

Jesus and the raptured saints will come to the earth physically and take rulership from the world president ( the anti-christ)
and they will rule for 1,000 years "
and all dominions shall serve and obey him/them."

After the Great White Throne Judgement, all the people who belong to God shall be in the same place, enjoying the same thing... revelation 21:1-8

*. Verse 3 "KJV:And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and GOD HIMSELF SHALL BE WITH THEM, and BE THEIR GOD."

Janosky:
John 17:3, & John 20:17 Jesus Christ say na Fake theory

The only thing that makes me know and understand something as original and true is its features and characteristics...

Can/will you please give me the features of your true God?

Let me cross check it, compare and contrast.

dawnomike:
The branch of mathematics that proves this is called 'Real Analysis'. You proof by contradiction.
To proof what you asked above in mathematics will take like 2 pages of paper.

But is zero = nothing? Because what came to my mind now is how the zero is eventually something, e.g

1 has zero at the left hand side = 01=1;
Ok
1 has zero at it right hand side = 10=10.

This is marginalization�

DappaD:
Please according to Acts 24:15 [NIV, NET] , where would the unrighteous/wicked be resurrected to?


Apostle Paul was addressing the resurrection of those who would be going to heaven(Philippians 3:21)and according to the Bible, it would be a “little flock” of anointed Christians numbering into a 144,000 total. Luke 12:32 see Revelation 14:1-5 also.
Those who are in this category partake in what the Bible calls the “first resurrection”.
Please read Revelation 20:4-6 see Philippians 3:11 also.

Revelation 20:12-14 indicates that there would other kinds of resurrection which will take place on earth.

In Luke 12: 32 "KJV:Fear not, LITTLE FLOCK; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."

No other explanations is given to it in the Word, but watch tower have continued to force some explanations to it...

If you can be of help, can you point out the part of the verse that says only 144,000 are going to heaven? No emotions please.

LITTLE FLOCK compare it with LITTLE CHILDREN, their usage in the Word is different from what the watch tower devotees are making out of it.

My own opinion!

DappaD:
Please according to Acts 24:15 [NIV, NET] , where would the unrighteous/wicked be resurrected to?


Apostle Paul was addressing the resurrection of those who would be going to heaven(Philippians 3:21)and according to the Bible, it would be a “little flock” of anointed Christians numbering into a 144,000 total. Luke 12:32 see Revelation 14:1-5 also.
Those who are in this category partake in what the Bible calls the “first resurrection”.
Please read Revelation 20:4-6 see Philippians 3:11 also.

Revelation 20:12-14 indicates that there would other kinds of resurrection which will take place on earth.

Born again (John 3:3,7; 1 Peter 1:23) = born of God ( 1 John 5:18) = born of the Spirit ( John 3:v8)= new life in Christ( Romans 4:6)

If you are not born of God then you are born of the devil ( this is my understanding of 1 John 3:7- 10)

MaxInDHouse:
People outside can SEE the benefits of your teaching in the midst of the adherents jare {James 2:18-26} don't mind that Janosky man.
Those adhering to what you're saying are shining light of the world and people can see the light globally {Matthew 5:13-16} please remind me of the unique group name they bear out there!

From the Word, THE UNIQUE GROUP NAME is
CHILDREN OF GOD and what qualifies them is that
THEY NOLONGER COMMIT SIN:
*. 1 John 3:10 "
KJV:Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8
KJV:He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9
KJV:Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10
KJV:In this THE CHILDREN OF GOD are manifest, and the children of the devil: WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother."

they are scattered all over the groups... but they maintain the same lifestyle despite their different earthly group


No group on Earth can have all it members in the kingdom

[quote author=bixton post=98021700][/b]


I understand your views and it will be hard to even reason with you. Many a times we have been given wrong interpretation towards certain portions of the Scriptures and we tend to use certain words which are not not even written as God's word or having a scriptural backing.

In order for one to learn he has to unlearn but with caution.

No matter the arguments what's most important that those who are called by God and of God are to preach the undiluted word of God that Christ Jesus is the Son of God, He died and is ressurrected to the remission of the sins of man and only those who believe in Him by faith(wholly not partial) will receive the free gift of salvation. And all our worship to Him should be in truth and in spirit because that's the only way we can get to please Him.

As regards the bold there's no portion in the Scripture that says that. Even though people say it or use it in teaching.

English language is tricky. Try looking into 13th century English and 21st century english.
Do you not think there's a difference between 'a servant of' and a 'servant unto'?
Anyways even man was upgraded from being a servant to as Jesus said 'a friend of God and a son of God. A servant cannot be a heir till he is made a son of the household.[/quote


These people quote the Word but often explain watch tower...

The explanations often than not face a different direction from the Words.

If you want to overcome their manipulations, try read the quotations they supply and compare it with their explanations.

Janosky:
The Father bear witness of His son, you dey learn anything in that statement?
You done forget you say Jesus his son is your Jehovah?

I still maintain it even in this post you are replying...

If the Son = the Father, and the Father= Jehovah, then, the Son is = Jehovah✓