Janosky: Bros, I gave you concrete evidence of Matthew 6:13, to explain to you that KJV Bible added the second paragraph words which into verse 13, the same manner the words in Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14; Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46; Luke 17:36, 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37 were added by copyists & scribes into the text of the 16th century manuscript of the KJV Bible. Those verses do NOT exist in older manuscripts of the Bible which is the main texts used for Translation of NIV,ESV & other Bibles.
Bros, you have ZERO LOVE for the truth. You are LYING and DECEIVING yourself in order to massage your overbloated ego.
(For Acts 8:37 & John 5:4 READ the SCREENSHOT EVIDENCES of your Trinity mentors, carm.org. & biblehub. Bros, Just get out of this thread )
If we should talk about ADDITION, other versions have added (unreasonably) more in their translations than the accused KJV; Or are you not aware of this?
Always quick to accused others of the very thing they are doing...
Janosky: Bros, I gave you concrete evidence of Matthew 6:13, to explain to you that KJV Bible added the second paragraph words which into verse 13, the same manner the words in Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14; Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46; Luke 17:36, 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37 were added by copyists & scribes into the text of the 16th century manuscript of the KJV Bible. Those verses do NOT exist in older manuscripts of the Bible which is the main texts used for Translation of NIV,ESV & other Bibles.
Bros, you have ZERO LOVE for the truth. You are LYING and DECEIVING yourself in order to massage your overbloated ego.
(For Acts 8:37 & John 5:4 READ the SCREENSHOT EVIDENCES of your Trinity mentors, carm.org. & biblehub. Bros, Just get out of this thread )
Chai! See, calm down first of all. Severally I have asked you for your preferred version. It's going to do us a lot of good.
I hardly see sincerity in your posts. The KJV is the best version so far ( to me and many others) we have agreed that it is the Word of the most high God, therefore, no need for yearly editions;
For those who go into yearly edition, they are given falsehood.
FOR THE FACT THAT THEIR FIRST PRINTED COPIES CONTAIN IT, the KJV is forever a better version than them all.
Continue your edition, last last, the KJV remains a King indeed!
Matthew 17:21 = Mark 9:29, so KJV users are not in confusion in any way.
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
"SCARED OF THE TRUTH ..." you are very correct, he never addressed anything clearly... always looking for hiding place...
MaxInDHouse: Misinterpretation and misapplication indeed!
God's son has opened our eyes to see that "a good tree will not yield rotten fruit and an evil tree will not yield good fruit" Matthew 7:16-18 If JWs have united people from all over the world with what they interpreted and applied then you are an enemy of God's Holy Spirit {Luke 12:10} as you ascribed what only God's spirit can do to the devil! Isaiah 5:20 May your conscience judge you!
You are one of the Watch tower fruits; one of the common negative characteristics found among you guys (from the leaders to the led ) is DIVERSION AND DISTRACTIONS:
the op is asking IS THE ALTERED/TAMPERED VERSIONS INTENTIONAL?
so far you have not posted anything to address it, rather, you have been doing what the organization know how to do best - DISTRACTIONS!
the New World Transaction (NWT) was printed for the single purpose of DISTRACTING the Body of Christ....
But how far, are you guys succeeding or you are failing?
My MASTER said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church!
*. Matthew 16-18 "KJV:And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH; AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT."
Janosky: Bros, I think say you're well read and educated. I won't share your MISLEADING posts with any contacts. Harper Collins is a Publishing Conglomerate, that in no way validates your spurious claim of alterations.
For instance, when you read the 6th printed edition of "Things fall Apart" novel", it ended at chapter 15.
Later, you read the older 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th printed edition of " Things Fall Apart" and the book ends at chapter 14, Bros, how did chapter 15 come about? How do you account for chapter 15?
Bros, study Matthew 6:13 in different Bible versions and compare them with KJV version, check the lexicon of NASB ,NIV,ESV Matthew 6:13 & compare KJV lexicon of Matthew 6:13, to cure your DELUSION and fake postulation of omission & alterations. KJV Translators simply ADDED more words into verse 13 , lifted from other portions of the holy scriptures.
The same trick they employed at Matthew 17:21, 18:11 etc to pull the wool over your eyes & you come to this public forum to question the authenticity of your Bible . TUEH !!!!
My 2 questions are:
1. Which version is your preference? 2. Are you one of the editors of NIV and ESV? Because I have many questions to ask in this regard...
MaxInDHouse: The highlighted comes from God's word! Proverbs 4:18
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have been declared righteous by the true God, they picked up the job God's son commissioned and made it their own {Matthew 28:19-20} with the help of God's Holy Spirit they have successfully gathered almost 9,000,000 people from all races throughout the earth, removed weapons from their hands, format the thought of war from their brains and turned them into a global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4
That's why the path of this Organization is getting brighter while all of you are rebelling against your Daddy GOs! Luke 11:23
It misinterpretation and misapplication come from the Watch tower
MaxInDHouse: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm this is really baffling, i thought you want to KNOW MORE! Well if you truthfully want to know what is happening adjustments were made due to the discovery of older manuscripts and continuous arguments over what is happening in the churches. Jesus is the word of God, he explained that in the last days there will be confusion everywhere {Matthew 24:11} and the sacred secrets of God's word will only be revealed to a few. Matthew 24:45
Of course this few will be connected by a unique force (God's Holy Spirit) so that they can think alike and do everything as if they're sharing the same line of thought! John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10
Once this has been fulfilled whoever wants to know the truth about God only need to observe the fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the midst of those under the supervision (oversight) of the approved few {Matthew 7:16-18} all those who ignore or fail to take note of these words will remain in darkness spiritually speaking! Matthew 24:29
So God's own people will be blessed with timely spiritual nourishment {Isaiah 65:13} but those in confusion will be complaining due to frustration and disappointments from those leading them spiritually {Isaiah 65:14} during that time they will think they're on the same page with God's people then then then God will call his own people by another name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15
So you can continue deceiving yourselves with false reasoning as long as you're not on Jesus' side there can never be any agreement among you all of you will continue to divide as in SCATTER! Luke 11:23
You know very well that you are not for Jesus...
JESUS knows who are His: *. 2 Timothy 2:19 "KJV:Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, THE LORD KNOWETH THEM THAT ARE HIS. And, let EVERY ONE THAT nameth the name of Christ DEPART FROM INIQUITY."
"THE LORD KNOWETH THEM THAT ARE HIS (these people who are)....EVERY ONE THAT...DEPART FROM INIQUITY."
Organization that can't talk about HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS is not for Jesus.
*. Luke 1:74-75 "KJV:That he would grant unto us, that WE BEING DELIVERED out of the hand of our enemies MIGHT SERVE HIM WITHOUT FEAR, 75 KJV: IN HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE."
"[/b]WE BEING DELIVERED... MIGHT SERVE HIM WITHOUT FEAR... IN HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS... ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE."[b]
sonmvayina: I noticed all those passages are from the new testament. I am not surprised. They have been editing it right from the begining.. They only stoped in 1530 after the council of trent because a certain german has invented the printing press.
They can never alter Gods commandments as it is contained in the Torah. They can always edit their trash to meet up to Gods commandments...
Let them keep trying..
"THEY CAN ALWAYS EDIT THEIR TRASH TO MEET UP TO GOD'S COMMANDMENTS..."
The above statement makes a lot of sense to me.
Some people here will say that the light is getting brighter...
iyambz: Just stick with your KJV Bible. It is the authorized version for English speakers and also the only pure and perfect word of God. The newer bible translations since the 19th century are perverted. Their manuscript came from Alexandria Egypt. Everything about Egypt in the Bible is negative, and it's a type of the world in the Bible. The KJV manuscript came from Antioch, Syria. Where was the disciples first called Christians in Acts 11? Of course it was in Antioch.
There are two reasons people change the word of God: 1. To make money 2. To establish their own authority. That is how a false congregation is formed like the JWs and the rest.
Janosky: Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (33) The place, which is called Calvary.--On the place and name, see Note on Matthew 27:33. As a matter of translation, it would clearly have been better either to give the Greek form (Cranion), or its meaning (= "skull" in English. The Vulgate, however, had given Calvarium, and that word had taken so strong a hold on men's minds, that it was apparently thought better, as in all the English versions, to retain it here. It is not without interest to note that the name which more than any other is associated with Protestant hymns and meditations on the atonement, should come to us from the Vulgate of the Latin Church.
Pulpit Commentary Verses 33-49. - The Crucifixion. Verse 33. - And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary; literally, unto the place which is called the skull. The familiar name "Calvary" has its origin in the Vulgate translation, Calvarium, a skull. The name "Place of a skull," Golgotha (properly Gulgoltha, an Aramaic word נלגלתא, corresponding to the Hebrew Gulgoleth, גלגלת, which in Judges 9:53 and 2 Kings 9:35 is translated "skull"
* Bros, the correct Translation is SKULL. Not Calvary borrowed from Latin language. Your Bible was not written in Latin.
* The word "Ghost" is English corruption of Greek Pneuma which means "does Spirit". "Ghost" NOT exist in any Hebrew or Greek bible.
* "The Tetragrammaton YHWH, Translated "Yahweh/Jehovah" or it's variation (Yeowah, Jehova) in many languages. The name was omitted from many Bibles because , according to the Preface in many Bibles, the Jewish superstition, or tradition holds that the name is too holy for mere mortals to call or use in their daily lives.
* *** As for those verses you claimed were omitted in the NIV/ESV, have you found out how those verses found their way into the KJV?
Please research and find out. Why ?
Because the KJV is the product of a 16th century manuscript, Textus Receptus (Received Text) , which is a baby manuscript where far older great grandfather's of bible manuscripts exists.
Those verses were NOT removed, please confirm why they were omitted in NIV/ESV.
We are NOT living in the age of ignorance. Shalom.
Which version is your preference? 2. Are you one of the editors? I may like to ask you many questions...
I'm sure you know that New international version (NIV) was published by Zondervan but is now OWNED by Harper Collins, who also publishes the Satanic Bible and The Joy of Gay Sex.
The NIV and English Standard Version (ESV) has now removed 64,575 words from the Bible including Jehovah, Calvary, Holy Ghost and omnipotent to name but a few...
The NIV and ESV has also now removed 45 complete verses. Most of us have the Bible on our devices and phones especially "OLIVE TREE BIBLE STUDY APP."
Try and find these scriptures in NIV and ESV on your computer, phone or device right now if you are in doubt:
Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14; Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46; Luke 17:36, 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37. ...you will not believe your eyes.
THE SOLUTION: If you must use the NIV and ESV, BUY and KEEP AN EARLIER VERSION OF the BIBLE. A Hard Copy cannot be updated. All these changes occur when they ask you to update the app. On your phone or laptop etc.
Buy and KEEP EARLIER VERSIONS AND STORE THEM.
There is a crusade geared towards altering the Bible as we know it; NIV, ESV and many more versions are affected.
I want to read the views/opinions of others in this forum before I start to share the full information sent to me. So, mynd44 lalasticala Dominique and others can be of help.
So, 4 years ago I wrote why learning a skill outside your university degree is really important, you can read about it here https://talk2bella.com/2017/07/04/why-every-nigerian-lady-must-learn-a-skill/. well, dem say who no go no know hahahahaha, Naija hard sha, e hard die, e hard pieces kudos to anyone out there holding it down because if you fit make am for naija trust me you can make it anywhere.
During my NYSC I enrolled in a fashion school to keep busy and also plan for the future incase the labor market wasn’t kind to me at least make I get backup plan ba? Anyway, I sha learn the work and I was lucky before I finished NYSC job came. The easiest job to get for a fresh graduate is always sales job and the purpose of this is to toughen you up for the real world.
Truth is sales is an interesting career building type of job, it will mould you for the real world and if you succeed in sales trust me you can succeed in any management position, its dynamism is unique. Anyway, I did sales for years and trust me when I sale ko easy mehn because Jehovah built me to be chubby, but I was just looking like pankere everyday of my life, I became a bonny structure and got massively addicted to coffee, I made money o I wont lie, but did I have the time to spend this money? No, I didn’t. sales shaped me, moulded me, gave me experience I wouldn’t have gotten if I had gotten a different job, I networked and engaged in training others as well, it built my confidence but at the end of the day I noticed I was becoming stagnant, I was doing the same thing over and over and over again, I was gaining experience in just one field without diversifying and then I decided to change career.
I have done things sha in the name of hustle, I have drastically changed from 4 years ago to today, it’s not about coming to the internet to make mouth, demean others and be a motivational speaker but I am here to still remind you that things are hard, and it might not get better soon, things are o but people still de cash out.
Let’s focus on the topic of this content mbok, I learnt fashion designing but I haven’t used it for a day, the plan is to make money and one day diversify where I open a fashion hub and outsource it to professionals. I have the knowledge already because I learnt this a while ago, but I do not have a passion for it, so it is really important if you’re going to learn a skill let it be something you really have a passion for cos this country will humble you.
Understanding Data: I honestly cannot deny that understanding and interpreting data is one of the best skills to acquire, I am currently on this path as my new career is focused on growth marketing which encompasses both digital and T-shaped marketing and this has to do a lot with collating, analyzing and Interpreting data. Truth is you do not need to be an expert in this field, having basic knowledge will get you the audience you desire and from there you can grow.
Photography/Videography/Cinematography and Graphics Design: trust me when I say professional photo and videographers are cashing out constantly, like waaaaaaaaaht. Not our olden days photographers o that we see at weddings who come to ask to snap you for like 500 Naira or so. For years now the Nigeria music and movie industry has boomed and is booming, and you can testify to the quality of contents that is coming out of the industry. TY Bello, Clarence Peters and their colleagues make a ton of money providing their services, it is important you know that they have been in the game for a long time and now they’re reaping their earned rewards. Being a Graphics designer in this era and being good at it is a testimony because if you play your cards well your works will speak for you both locally and internationally. Advertising agencies, small businesses, big businesses, freelancing gigs, just name it is going to be at your beck and call, but no be beans o because you need to put in the hours to be an expert in this field.
Digital Marketing: see ehn, concerning this level I no need to even de write epistle onto this matter, the koko be say anyone can be a digital marketer, anyone can do 1+1 and run ads on Facebook, Google, Twitter etc and cash out. There are tons of materials online to learn freely from it is one skill you don’t have to spend much money acquiring maybe just internet money and have a smart phone. Digital Marketing is complex and delves all the way to growth, performance, content, creative, email marketing etc so pick a niche and decide which one you’d like to excel in.
Fashion Designing/Makeup and Hair: I love has dynamic this skill has become over the years, growing up and visiting a tailor was gender specific, my brother visited a male tailor while my mum and myself visited a female one. Most of then sew just for their gender and weren’t even willing to experiment or go out of their comfort zone, but you see this life ehn, it is all about constant growth and we can see a lot of that growth in the fashion industry. Some male fashion designers even sew better than women in the industry, it is no more gender based and we see a lot of these people cashing out, dear naija yoot what are ye waiting for?
Makeup and Hair is another money-making skill I’d advise anyone to go into, wig making is a booming Industry and you know the funny thing? There’s this funny stereotype that a man or woman who ventures into the opposite gender’s trade will excel more than that gender e.g a man making hair for women, makeup etc will do better than a woman in that field, is this true?
Side Hustle: lol abeg make una leave me because to me side hustle is a skill, not everyone can combine 8-5 and still manage a side business. There are a lot of side hustles one can go into and the WWW has helped a lot of people start up and even prosper, a colleague told me a story of how his friend earned 30M in one day from Dropshipping my mouth dropped and spit was just drooling from the side hahahahah. Immediately I built an e-commerce store and started mini-importation shaperly. I made money o I wont lie, I am an experienced digital marketer, so it was easy for me to run ads to promote my business. I spoke to a colleague and good friend Abimbola who was into dropshipping and she put me through, gave me her contacts in China and voila I was making money until covid and dollar happened, I waited a while and decided to put a hold on it and go for my MBA in Marketing.
This writeup is about skills that are easily accessible and learnable, and I haven’t even covered half of it. There are tons of skills to learn that’s not about coding, app development, UX/UI because even me sef no get brain for this kain skills and I know not everyone can learn it, 1+1 de give me headache I no fit learn plenty coding abegi.
No kind hustle wey I never put my hand for, I don even do Tigernut Milk de supply people sef and we all know how having another source of income is very important in this economy. Salary no de reach person again, cost of foodstuffs don increase massively, Nepa bills don turn extortion and these days person gats de budget for self-protection because of herdsmen and bandits.
Learn these skills to supplement your income, but if your salary de shake your bank account every week with positive vibrations, guy you no need am just de enjoy you salary de go.
nairalandbuzz: Asked whether or not he would remove the remaining testicle when he finally recuperates,Mr Terhemen was quick to reply, "No,I won't try it again",adding that it was even idiotic and anathema of him to do self- castration because Matthew 5:30 and Mark 9:43 where he derived his inspiration cannot be given a literary interpretation. He finally regretted his action and prayed God to give him a wife so as to bear his own children."
nairalandbuzz: Asked whether or not he would remove the remaining testicle when he finally recuperates,Mr Terhemen was quick to reply, "No,I won't try it again",adding that it was even idiotic and anathema of him to do self- castration because Matthew 5:30 and Mark 9:43 where he derived his inspiration cannot be given a literary interpretation. He finally regretted his action and prayed God to give him a wife so as to bear his own children."[/quo
[quote author=assinozick042 post=99445870]Waaw so na wetin this man don do himself... Saw him yesterday, he came asking for guaze bandage and one surgical thing again which i have forgoten..if no be say e go bring long talk between me and him i for ask him about these directly.he use to buy little drugs always, like mixagrip, para tablet,ibu 200mg tin one or omeprazole capsule. He is a good customer to, me.whenever he buy drug on credit i dnt use to keep the record as he is nt all that ok, bt he will make sure he bring the money on the very day he promise..
He is not that ok but some people don dey blame region oo
Janosky: Jesus is a Jehovah's Servant, Matthew 12:15-18 and Isaiah 43:10-12, he is a Jehovah's witness. Every servant of Jehovah must witness about Jesus death and resurrection. JWs are Jesus witness and together with Jesus obey John 7:16, John 9:4 as Jehovah's witness. Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 is in your Bible. Bros, Why you dey like argument?
Acts 9:6,11 "The lord said : "Arise and go ......." Bros , who gave the command?
John was Jesus' witness just as you have agreed that JESUS' WITNESS = Jehovah's witness: *. John 1:7 "KJV: THE SAME CAME FOR A WITNESS, TO WITNESS OF THE LIGHT, that all men through him might believe."
8 "KJV: HE was not that Light, but WAS SENT TO BEAR WITNESS OF THAT LIGHT.
9KJV: THAT WAS THE TRUE LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Note: FATHER/SON IS THE LIGHT:
*. Psalms 27:1 "KJV: THE LORD IS my LIGHT and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? (i.e the Father)
*. Revelation 21:23 "KJV:And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the LAMB IS THE LIGHT thereof.(i.e the Son)
*. John8:12 "KJV:Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I AM THE LIGHT of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.(i.e the Son)
*. Isaiah 60: 19 "KJV:The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but THE LORD SHALL BE unto thee AN EVERLASTING LIGHT, and thy God thy glory.(i.e the Father)
Thanks for accepting that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES = JESUS' WITNESSES !
Janosky: Jesus is a Jehovah's Servant, Matthew 12:15-18 and Isaiah 43:10-12, he is a Jehovah's witness. [b][/b]Every servant of Jehovah must witness about Jesus death and resurrection. JWs are Jesus witness and together with Jesus obey John 7:16, John 9:4 as Jehovah's witness. Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 is in your Bible. Bros, Why you dey like argument?
Acts 9:6,11 "The lord said : "Arise and go ......." Bros , who gave the command?
Jehovah's Witnesses = Jesus' witnesses, in other words Jehovah = Jesus or JESUS = Jehovah✓.
The Father witnesses for the Son just as the Son witnesses for the Father:
*. John 5:37 "KJV:And THE FATHER HIMSELF, which hath sent me, hath BORNE WITNESS OF ME. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."
NOTE: " THE FATHER HIMSELF....BORNE WITNESS OF ME.
*. John 8:18 ":I AM ONE THAT WITNESS OF MYSELF, and THE FATHER that sent me BEARETH WITNESS OF ME."
Note: Jesus is saying hear that since He and the Father is the Almighty One ( 1×1×1= Almighty 1), it means FATHER BEARS WITNESS OF THE SON IS THE SAME THING AS SON BEARS WITNESS OF HIMSELF.
some time you will say if the Father is the same with the Son it means the Son prayed to Himself, He is saying in John 8:18 above that you are somewhat correct...if that is what will help you understand the Godhead mystery.
Janosky: Bros, who gave the command to Saul (Paul) @Acts 9:6 & to Ananias @ Acts 9:11?
Bros, you have ADDED your own LAST COMMAND to the holy Scriptures You just dey DECEIVE yourself.
I checked the quotation to see if it contains something related to our discussion, but I'm disappointed:
*. Acts 9: 6 "KJV:And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 11 KJV:And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,"
In the military, I said, there is something called OBEY THE LAST COMMAND.
Followers of Christ are soldiers, so we adopt the principle of OBEY THE LAST COMMAND: *. Ephesians 2:25 "KJV:Yet I supposed it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, and companion in labour, and FELLOWSOLDIER, but your messenger, and he that ministered to my wants."
*. 2 Timothy 2:3 "KJV:Thou therefore endure hardness, as a GOOD SOLDIER OF JESUS CHRIST."
*. Philemon 1:2 "KJV:And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our FELLOWSOLDIER, and to the church in thy house:"
So, I'm still asking you ARE YOU ALSO JESUS' WITNESS?
Yes, give reason No, give reason. It's as simple as that.
You have to dodge John 17:3 and John 20:17 in favour of your man made theory .
Your KJV John 16:28, says " came forth" meaning is " to issue out" , When you are asked how many 'issues" you have? The Bros, go answer say he projected, Just dey DECEIVE yourself, you hear ; (John 16:28, came forth/issue out= product/offspring. For instance, John came forth from the Academy. Meaning John is a product of the Academy. John is not the Academy..) D
Get the understanding of what I'm saying. For instance, if it is said that the planet Earth has ONLY one moon; then, whatever shapes it appears or whichever place/country/land you view it from, it is still the same moon.
Because it is generally agreed that planet Earth has only one moon.
If you begin to point out the difference between full moon and crescent moon, I will take note of your point but I know it is the same moon.
Note the emphasis on ONLY, not two.
JESUS gives me Life and this life is not just ordenary life but EVERLASTING LIFE. John 10:10 Only the true God gives life.
As you dey reject Jesus so, na life you dey reject o o!
JESUS is my life. Is He your life?
Janosky, is Jesus your life?
*. Colossians 3:4 "KJV:When CHRIST, who IS OUR LIFE, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."
MaxInDHouse: He said he will like to KNOWMORE but what he's storing in his mind is like the thorns in Jesus' illustration {Matthew 13:7} so instead of removing those thornlike theories in other to see better he just want to continue sowing among the thorns and he's expecting positive result. Let him go and continue watering whatever he has and see if it will grow at all talkless yielding fruits. When they look at JW Organization they can sense fine works of the spirit but their former religions has infused in their brains the idea that all fine works must be backed up with spectacular wonders, that's what they're expecting from us before they can believe we have the truth {Matthew 12:39; Luke 11:29} so no matter how much they're noticing the fine fruit they just want to see miracles!
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Officer, explain to your brother the importance of OBEY THE LAST COMMAND and the consequences of disobedience to the LAST COMMAND.
MaxInDHouse: He said he will like to KNOWMORE but what he's storing in his mind is like the thorns in Jesus' illustration {Matthew 13:7} so instead of removing those thornlike theories in other to see better he just want to continue sowing among the thorns and he's expecting positive result. Let him go and continue watering whatever he has and see if it will grow at all talkless yielding fruits. When they look at JW Organization they can sense fine works of the spirit but their former religions has infused in their brains the idea that all fine works must be backed up with spectacular wonders, that's what they're expecting from us before they can believe we have the truth {Matthew 12:39; Luke 11:29} so no matter how much they're noticing the fine fruit they just want to see miracles!
I actually want to KNOWMORE, but my questions are not being answered. Example:
*. Acts 1:8 "KJV:But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: AND YE SHALL BE WITNESSES UNTO ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." questions:
1. Who is the ME in the verse above? 2. Is "Jesus' witnesses" the same thing as "Jehovah's witnesses"?
3. What are the distinguishing characteristics of this your Jehovah? That is, if He is not the same as JESUS.
Janosky: All so called "Jesus witness", what did Jesus teach you at John 7:16, John 20:21 & John 9:4 ? You all contrived to dodge John 7:16 ,John 20:21 & 9:4. because it's Jesus PROOF your claim on Acts 1:8 is built on quicksand.
Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 , the disciples , Jehovah's Servants, were giving "witness that Jesus died and Jehovah our God raised Jesus to Life from the dead.
Bros, you can't change Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39. Neither can you change John 9:4, John20:21 and John7:16.
On this thread, you are giving witness that your "triune deity" died on earth, that is NOT "Jesus witness. No connection at all Bros, where did Jesus teach you that Jehovah died on earth? Is Matthew 16:13-17, John 20:17 and Matthew 27:43,46 missing in your Bible? Just continue DECEIVING yourself. .
Make your submission clear for readers nau, Jesus said YE SHALL BE WITNESSES UNTO ME... Acts 2:8
1. Are you Jesus' witness?
2. What are the CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ONLY TRUE GOD?
Janosky: * XX* "He is the Jehovah in the word" Please tell this forum which Scripture you read that GIBBERISH.
*1. "ME" refers in Acts 1:8 to Jesus.
*2* Acts 1:22 beginning from John's baptism until the day Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."
Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, to which we are all witnesses.
Acts 3:15 You killed the Author of life, but God raised Him from the dead, and we are witnesses of the fact.
Acts 4:33 With great power the apostles continued to give their testimony (witness) about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.
Acts 10:39 We are witnesses of all that He did, both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And although they put Him to death by hanging Him on a tree"
# Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 , the disciples gives "witness that Jesus died and Jehovah our God raised Jesus to Life from the dead. (If you believe your "God" died on earth, continue DECEIVING yourself ). ANSWER to *2. It depends on what you believe. Most important,it depends on what your Bible says. Jnr2020, Knowmore56, Iyambz,brocab, etc claim to be "Jesus witness" & by their own admission, can NOT be Jehovah's witness.
What your Bible says:
You or other readers should check many of the quotations you gave. If you read the whole chapter, you'll see that Jesus is been described in His other offices. Example:
*. Acts 2:22 "KJV:Ye men of Israel, hear these words; JESUS OF NAZARETH, A MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 KJV:Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 KJV:Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Jesus is called A MAN in this place, so when the written said God raised Him, he is looking at it from His office as a man and not from His office as God.
For more information about JESUS' different offices check
Janosky: * XX* "He is the Jehovah in the word" Please tell this forum which Scripture you read that GIBBERISH.
*1. "ME" refers in Acts 1:8 to Jesus.
*2* Acts 1:22 beginning from John's baptism until the day Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."
Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, to which we are all witnesses.
Acts 3:15 You killed the Author of life, but God raised Him from the dead, and we are witnesses of the fact.
Acts 4:33 With great power the apostles continued to give their testimony (witness) about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.
Acts 10:39 We are witnesses of all that He did, both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And although they put Him to death by hanging Him on a tree"
# Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 , the disciples gives "witness that Jesus died and Jehovah our God raised Jesus to Life from the dead. (If you believe your "God" died on earth, continue DECEIVING yourself ). ANSWER to *2. It depends on what you believe. Most important,it depends on what your Bible says. Jnr2020, Knowmore56, Iyambz,brocab, etc claim to be "Jesus witness" & by their own admission, can NOT be Jehovah's witness.
What your Bible says:
Read acts 2:8 again. That's His last command before His accession, in the military once you hear OBEY THE LAST COMMAND ..... Your brother, MaxInDhouse can tell you more about it.
*. Acts 1:8 "KJV:But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: AND YE SHALL BE WITNESSES UNTO ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
Jesus said we shall be witnesses unto Him, if you feel He's not serious, it is because of Watch tower in your heart.
Janosky: * XX* "He is the Jehovah in the word" Please tell this forum which Scripture you read that GIBBERISH.
*1. "ME" refers in Acts 1:8 to Jesus.
*2* Acts 1:22 beginning from John's baptism until the day Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."
Acts 2:32 God has raised this Jesus to life, to which we are all witnesses.
Acts 3:15 You killed the Author of life, but God raised Him from the dead, and we are witnesses of the fact.
Acts 4:33 With great power the apostles continued to give their testimony (witness) about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.
Acts 10:39 We are witnesses of all that He did, both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. And although they put Him to death by hanging Him on a tree"
# Acts 1:8,22. 2:23. 3:13,15. 4:33. 10:39 , the disciples gives "witness that Jesus died and Jehovah our God raised Jesus to Life from the dead. (If you believe your "God" died on earth, continue DECEIVING yourself ). ANSWER to *2. It depends on what you believe. Most important,it depends on what your Bible says. Jnr2020, Knowmore56, Iyambz,brocab, etc claim to be "Jesus witness" & by their own admission, can NOT be Jehovah's witness.
What your Bible says:
Janosky you are welcome. Were have you been?
I carefully read your long post but couldn't see were you gave the CHARACTERISTICS of this your Jehovah, not even one.
MaxInDHouse: I will ask you just one question and if you're not ready to answer it then it's better you keep yours while i also keep mine! Mark 11:27-33
Do you believe in ONE GOD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM {Ephesians 4:5} can you mention that CHURCH having that ONE FAITH as ONE BODY? Ephesians 4:4
Thanks in advance!
Hehehe�, funny Watch tower devotee, always running from answering questions.
Anything I see in the Word I believe with all my heart. If I don't understand it, I pray to the Author of the Words to expound it to me.
And He never disappointed, He chooses the means He used: books, online, offline, pastors, etc.
He made me know that the organization is occultism, that the Watch tower magazines are placed high above the Word.
I'm the church. Individuals who have standing or healthy relationship with Jesus are the church.
I'm to check myself weather I'm for Jesus or Jesus is for me:
*. 2 Corinthians 13:5 "KJV: EXAMINE YOURSELVES, WHETHER YE BE IN THE FAITH; prove your own selves. KNOW YE NOT YOUR OWN SELVES, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"
any church that do not have another book above the Bible, and do not seek for a secret interpretation of the Words, I like them.
Myer: I would have loved to answer this and share my experience and journey into and out of the Christian faith. In fact I was going to share my former acct/moniker with you from when I was a completely devout Christian. When I was preaching and evangelising even here on NL. Until I couldn't help but find the contradictions in the Bible which could not be explained away except if I wanted to blindly defend the Bible. How can God's word contradict itself? Then I met various factions of Christian doctrines with each one truly laying claim on God's word even when they were directly opposing each other. There are the Hyper Grace Christians, there are the SU Christians and there are those in the neutral grounds. I started to question my theology.lol
But I had a rethink about sharing it cos it could affect the faith of some others. That a devout Christian can actually still fall away.
My intention has never been to jeopardise people's faith. I respect Faith. Be it religious faith, motivational speeches faith, self belief faith, etc. I think faith is truly the most important thing. Which ithe Bible also confirms that it is our Faith that conquers the world.
I've met non-reloigous and religious people who excel in their fields by sheer faith either in themselves or their God respectively.
Hmm! so it's in nairaland that the enemy set the traps that finally caught you.
Well, personal experience is one of the best things that keeps me. Actually when I started reading all the posts on nairaland, I was shaken.
But, I quickly muttered some words of prayer to my ever loving Master.
1st, He made me remembered who I was b4 my conversion and many wonderful things that happened to me.
Like, I'm very sure of the things that were in me then but now, they are no longer there. If some people doubt it, should I also doubt it? No! I won't.
The 2nd thing He did was to use one Hausa man, born and bred as a Muslim, to share his testimony of conversion...
after I listened to that overwhelming testimony, my faith was strengthened beyond measure!
Baby Christians supposed to keep away from nairaland ethiests and pray more for personal encounter with Jesus.
I pray that the One who rescued me will come to your help, in Jesus mighty name!
It's Jesus who said I should witness for Him. He is the Jehovah in the Word....
*. Acts 1:8 "KJV:But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: AND YE SHALL BE WITNESSES UNTO ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
questions:
1. Who is the ME in the verse above?
2. Is "Jesus' witnesses" the same thing as "Jehovah's witnesses"?
3. What are the distinguishing characteristics of this your Jehovah?
MaxInDhouse, I hope I don't have to wait till Armageddon comes to get the answers.
Christianity Etc › Re: Altered/tampered Bible Versions, Is It Intentional? by KNOWMORE56(op): 2:15am On Mar 05, 2021
in English. The Vulgate, however, had given Calvarium, and that word had taken so strong a hold on men's minds, that it was apparently thought better, as in all the English versions, to retain it here. It is not without interest to note that the name which more than any other is associated with Protestant hymns and meditations on the atonement, should come to us from the Vulgate of the Latin Church.