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The philosophies that the children of God are using are different from the ones others are using.
All the things you listed in your post that the pastor may likely be enjoying can never be said to be the number 1 reason for him to be healthy, NO!
These were not the things that made Methuselah lived 969 years - Genesis 5:27 ( approximately a millennium)...

The children of Israel fought in the battle and won the victory ( i.e according to human sense of reasoning), but God told them to return all glory to Him; (actually it's God who fought and won for them):

*. Deuteronomy 8: 10 "KJV:When thou hast eaten and art full, then thou shalt bless the Lord thy God for the good land which he hath given thee.
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KJV: BEWARE THAT THOU FORGET NOT THE LORD THY GOD, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day:
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KJV: LEST WHEN THOU HAST EATEN AND ART FULL, and hast built goodly houses, and dwelt therein;
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KJV: THEN THINE HEART BE LIFTED UP, and thou forget the Lord thy God, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage,
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KJV: AND THOU SAY IN THINE HEART, MY POWER AND THE MIGHT OF MINE HAND HATH GOTTEN ME THIS WEALTH."

note:
"BEWARE THAT THOU FORGET NOT THE LORD THY GOD... LEST WHEN THOU HAST EATEN AND ART FULL...THEN THINE HEART BE LIFTED UP...: AND THOU SAY IN THINE HEART, MY POWER AND THE MIGHT OF MINE HAND HATH GOTTEN ME THIS WEALTH."

This is the same reason Christians don't claim to be holy and righteous ( although they are)... acts 3:12; 1 John 3: 8-10. you

It is all by the grace of God!...

GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST TODAY!

RICHSATAN:
So i was bored and decided to attend this well know popular church in VI.
my intention was to go look for pussy though as i am not christian or even religious.
i came very early. i was among the first 5 people to be ushered in. my seat was directly in front of the pulpit.
there i was a 6foot 2 jacked and looking very rich dude, the eyes of all the female choristers female ushers and the pastors wife was on me.
atleast of nothing about me distracted them, my solid gold rolex watch was enough to do the magic.
at some point i felt a little uncomfortable with all these eyes on me.
as a satanist that i proudly am, i had to make sure i was in control of the situation.
just in church, i had already given my number to like 2 top notch girls and another one that was bold enough to walk up to me and give me her number while i was on my way out.
yes i came prepared. i had my cards fully stacked in all my pockets and my bible.

ok, now let me go why i was kicked out. it had nothing to do with the girls lol. i know that is where your dirty mind went to.
the pastor was talking about how god makes his children stay disease free and rich and bla bla bla.
luckily for me today was a day when they had this session where they allow members to ask questions.
i saw 2 people ask irrelevant question and the pastor answered without kicking them out.
when it was time for the next one , i raised my hand together with others that did so too. i was lucky to have been picked by the pastor to ask my question.
before i asked, i asked him , pastor am i allowed to ask anything i feel is of concern to me?
he said yes as long as i do not use vulgar words.
i was so excited because i have been waiting for this point for a long while now.
this is exactly what i said.....
pastor , on your sermon you talked about good health , riches etc for those that believe in god and jesus christ.
you even talked about how shedrach machech and abedigo feed on their own food and looked better than the people feeding on the kings food.
you talked how u have stayed for 10years without taking a medicine or got sick.
these things are what i want to talk about.
i feel you are deceiving these gullible members.
omo at this point the male usher wanted to snatch my mic, but the pastor asked him to allow me/
i continued...pastor , i am sure u live in a very posh and comfortable apartment in VI. so there are no mosquitoes, no bugs, there are no disease spreading insects around. i am also sure u feed properly and take some top notch supplements couple with frequent health checkups. etc.
with all this in place and the peace of mind you have, the possibility of you ever getting sick is almost 0.
majority of these people u are preaching this to dont have all these at their disposal, they live in bad environments , they eat bad food and cant afford the supplements u take or medical checkups u pay for regularly.
please stop deceiving these people people by telling them it is god bla ba bla..
omo at this point the pastor got angry and asked them to collect my mic and walk me out that i am sent by one of his enemies bla bla bla lmao.
my question is what i said is t wrong? do i deserve to be sent out like that?
did i break any rule as a non christian?

I could not find the question you said you asked. But one day you'll exhaust the mercy of God and you'll realize it too late...

I wish you Heaven....

DappaD:
Please please please whatever you hear from apostates, take and swallow it but don’t expect me to corroborate any story for you since it’s the apostates you’re keen on listening to.

From the Word:

*. Proverbs 16: 2 "KJV: ALL THE WAYS OF A MAN ARE CLEAN IN HIS OWN EYES; but the Lord weigheth the spirits."

*. Proverbs 21:2 "KJV: EVERY WAY OF A MAN IS RIGHT IN HIS OWN EYES: but the Lord pondereth the hearts."

who are the apostates between the organization and the others and why are they called so?

DappaD is not anapostate in his own eyes...

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious my own Jesus differ from yours! John 10:5

Wonderful truth you've posted:
My Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. Which means He healed yesterday, He is healing today and forever a Healer;
unlike your Jesus who is no longer in the business of healing... a lot of difference between my Jesus and your Jesus.

The Chief of all difference is that He is my Mediator, unlike your Jesus who is a mediator for only the Ogas...

I will stay with my Jesus forever in the same place He chooses, but your Jesus and the Ogas will stay up somewhere while all you distributors of handbills will be down somewhere...

A lot of differences...

MaxInDHouse:
There are two most powerful nations on this planet today, America and Russia!
Russia has been the focus of all other European countries today due to the ill-treatment the Russian authorities are giving JWs.
If you're intelligent why not ask yourself "What accusation could Russia use against JWs that will be tenable between TERRORISM and CHILD MOLESTATION?"
Of course everyone will be interested in knowing about a group of people pretending to be peaceful but are child molesters than pretending to be peaceful but are terrorists!
WHY?
Because a child molester can hide and pretend to be nice but terrorists are fierce killers, yet Russia found nothing against JWs only for them to label the most peaceful and peaceloving group on this planet as TERRORISTS!
If Russia with all their military intelligence couldn't find something worthwhile against JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES then whatever you think you're hearing about the group is just a conspiracy because there are child molesters everywhere just as TERRORISTS are everywhere yet Russia picked the later to accuse JWs since they can't find substantial amount of evidence to back any other accusations than to say "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are EXTREMISTS"

Yay, it is an act of terrorism for an organization to vent her anger on individuals and families who took blood transfusion but pampered child molesters...

The Russians may be intelligent people. Because they have arsenals to dislodge the other types of killers; but these set of killers that don't make use of guns, better to STOP them before they START...

DappaD:
I noticed that you’ve been looking for avenues to avoid discussion with me but I just couldn’t take my eyes of the highlighted. I mean is this how low you’ve sunk?

Those books you quoted now, can you please state the impact it has had on at least 1000 people? I thought you’re a one man mopol “Christian” (I guess that’s now a thing), so why are you now recommending books of Protestants and Anabaptists? Moreover, can the application of those books be traced to anywhere?

On the other hand, I can boldly say that the Watchtower and Awake books has had impact on not just the 8.6million Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide, but also on the millions studying with us, together with the other countless millions who enjoy reading our magazines because of the rich quality. Know that this is possible because Jehovah’s holy spirit is backing his earthly organization(Zechariah 4:6) so that’s why Jehovah’s Witnesses are indeed the salt of the earth because their own books preserve the spiritual health of the readers and are also the light of the world since their books are reflecting spiritual light from the Father of celestial lights. Matthew 5:13-16, James 1:17

What spiritual light has your books been able to reflect that you had the effontery to begin comparison?
Can you see where you got it wrong now?

Let's look at some of the characteristics of the things you have mentioned and check if you're organization fit in:
SALT:
white, sweet, preservative, etc(purity, unblameable)

*. Matthew 5:8 "
KJV:Blessed are the PURE IN HEART: for they shall see God."

*. 1 Timothy 3:9 "KJV:Holding the mystery of the faith in a PURE CONSCIENCE."

*. 1 Thessalonians 3:13 "KJV:To the end he may stablish your hearts UNBLAMEABLE IN HOLINESS before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints."

LIGHT, Matthew 5:14,15;

Revealing everything sinful, warm, protect everything godly, attractive to viewers, etc.

All the girls child molesters identity remain hidden with the organization...

I have a lot to post but let's go gradually... I'm coming.

MaxInDHouse:
The heart is the most precious part of a soul {Luke 6:45} for anyone to reach it you must first PRESENT something that's of higher value than the treasures in there.
For instance most Nigerian youths want to leave Nigeria not for Togo or Republic of Benin but for America, Paris or Switzerland because they can SEE what is better there!
So you can't just ask them to leave their homes when you've not provided a better option!

For your information i was a practicing Muslim before JWs came to PREACH to me so i left Islam for something better! :

the Word in your Hand
the Word in your Head but
the Watch tower in your Heart....
Misplaced priority...enthrone Jesus ( the Word) in your Heart today and be FREE!!!!

Heavenly minded followers of the Lord Jesus Christ have the Word:
in their Hands, in their Heads and in their Hearts ( i.e triple H, Father, Son and Holy Spirit)...
in the hand - they have the hard copy;
in the head - they memorise and quote it;
in the heart - they believe it and live it out.

Won't you answer Jesus calls?

MaxInDHouse:
He is my brother and he has spoken according to his perception of truth, you know it's not all of us that's gifted with the ability to TEACH!

But if you want to KNOWMORE about our salvation plan why not log onto jw.org and ask (politely) and get a better response.

What my brother said is exactly the same with all our brothers and sisters globally but we're not equally gifted to teach! Ephesians 4:11

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Those of you on this forum should do your best to represent them well. But unfortunately, Nairaland GB have been avoiding questions.

You have to know that you are their epistles, you are there fruits ( followers); and my Oga says by their fruits I shall know them.

You know what I mean...

[quote author=iyambz post=99708245]Answer the questions. Stop digressing. Preach your gospel and win me to the watch tower organization. Stop being a coward.[/quote
You have to wait till their Armageddon comes for your questions to be answered. Lol

If you see John47 quoting the verse that talks about the: LAIRS, FEARFUL, UNBELIEVING... you'll understand that he knows them well. Lol

iyambz:
1. What is JWs clear salvation plan?

You can't answer it because you don't know. Why? Because it is privy. What does the Bible say about the privy doctrines? (2 Pet 2:1 kjv) "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, [b]who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."[/b]

On the other hand, what is a Bible Believer salvation plan? It's simple. (Rom 10:9 kjv) "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

2. What is the gospel for JWs? It's privy and not Biblical. Your gospel is the watch tower organization; gospel of the kingdom of the JWs.

On the other hand, the Christian gospel is simple, not privy. (1 Cor 15:1-4 kjv) "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

You know what one of the Nairaland GB posted on one of the threads.
He said something like:
Once you join the organization you're safe, and all the people who care or are caring for the Jws are going to be considered by their Jehovah on the day of Armageddon...
That is what he or they understand from Matthew 24:40-45.

You can check it out below

https://www.nairaland.com/6001666/what-preach/1#92712383

iyambz:
1. Where in the Bible can I find this?
2. What is JWs clear salvation plan that even an unbeliever or an unlearned will understand?
3. Would you rather use what someone else is doing to justify yours, or would you rather let the Bible be your final authority instead of an organization?

If you can answer these 3 questions without trying to change the topic, then we can have a meaningful discussion.

Ah! No, they hardly answer questions...

Viknat:
Any person who really wants to be saved should go to the nearest kingdom Hall of jws and know what kingdom of God is, which is coming and what people will benefit, both living and dead ones, it's there in Bible, and not useless prosperity/miracle teaching pastors teach

Define salvation 1st.

MaxInDHouse:
You get liver o!
Just like that?

Let him define salvation or give the steps to be taken in order to be saved

iyambz:
Your posts on NL will be the witness. You are the one that always screenshot what you read on the internet and try to use it as basis for your argument here. KNOWMORE56 is also a witness to this because you did it on his thread. Now you see how stupid you are? God forbid that I read articles I see on the internet. I study my Bible fool, and I study books written by real Bible believing preachers in the pasts. Maybe you should go and read "The MARTYR'S MIRROR" or another good one "THE FOXES BOOK OF MARTYR" to see what true Christianity is, and not some stupid articles published by the watch tower organization. Your Beth Sarim is still there at San Diego California. Why not go there and see if it for yourself. Maybe you can rent one room there for yourself. Bunch of fools.

The way Watch tower devotees accused people of the very thing they are doing...

You can only wander what's the matter with them. They are doing more harm to their reputation than good. Their confusion is out of this world bro.

We can only pray for them and show them what is written in the Word

MaxInDHouse:
See suicide mission!

The highlighted shows how stupid you are walahi talahi!

Now let's evaluate, KJV is almost 500 years old and what has been the fruit of this version?
Compared to NWT which is less than 100 years old and what is the fruit?

Let me tell the whole world the fruit of the NWT.
This book has made millions to become zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word who don't expect payment for their service to Mankind! Matthew 28:19-20
With this book millions have dropped weapons in all the parts of this earth and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman for any reason whatsoever! Micah 4:1-3
With this book millions of people have formed a global family and LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeates their midst! John 13:34-35, 17:20-23
With this book the two most deadliest weapons Satan is using to destroy world Peace "Racism and Politics" has been completed silenced among it's users!
With this book millions have become loyal and faithful husbands and wives in our society! 1Timothy 3:2
With this book millions of youths have become obedient to their parents and exemplary young ones in the society! Ephesians 6:1

Well i'm not an atheist but from all indications all what atheists are saying against religion today is as a result of what the KJV has been causing in the midst of it's users!
God's word say Woe (Cursed) be those who are saying "good is bad and bad is good" Isaiah 5:20

Please let the world see the fruitage of KJV for the past 500 years, thanks in advance Sir! James 2:18-26

Max, calm down. The benefits and the genuineness of the KJV is without numbers.
1. It has withstood all attacks from political figures and false religious people;

2. All the perversions so called versions are directly copied from it. Evidence is the fact that all their earliest copies contained the verses that they now remove.

3. Without the KJV humanity would have been manipulated to believe that which is from Satan.

4. It encourages individual to know God experientially without the influence of an organization with ulterior motives.

5. Many souls have been delivered to the kingdom of God using the KJV.

6. The mind of God has been communicated to humanity through the KJV.

7. All kinds of sinful people from all over the world have surrendered to the Lord Jesus Christ through the KJV.

The list is endless...all glory to Jesus now and forever, Amen!

MaxInDHouse:
Wow see foolishness!

It's evident you don't understand but i'll enlighten you!

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has made a great name for himself in all the earth, because there is no place on this planet where that name has not been heard. But as for the name of his son all Islamic nations are saying the name "Jesus" mean just another prophet and even amongst the Jews (Jesus' own people) he is just an impostor, in the Orient most people don't know the name "Jesus".
But when you're talking about the God of Israel the news has gone near and far that this God conquered Egypt, Assyria and Babylon which are the first three most powerful nations back then!
Jesus never wanted to become popular by merely shouting his name up and down when you can't point to any positive result in the midst of the adherents {Luke 4:41 compare to Matthew 7:21-23} what Jesus wanted and prayed fervently for was to have his name pronounced in the midst of worshipers where LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign {John 17:20-23 compare to Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18} not noisemakers with nothing worthwhile to show for their credulity! Matthew 7:24-27

JESUS, the name that heals the sick and raise the dead...
The echoes of this name is heard both in the land of the living and dead...

If I say Watch tower in your heart is causing you a lot of confusions, you won't believe.

*. Acts 3:16 "KJV:And HIS NAME through FAITH IN HIS NAME HATH MADE THIS MAN STRONG, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all."

*. Acts 4:10 "KJV:Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that BY THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole."

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi Talahi most religionists have no shame!
Confirmation without visible works! James 2:18-26

Your guy just confirmed that the Christ in
2 Timothy 2:19-20 is a quote of Isaiah 52:11 "Let everyone who bears the name of Jehovah depart from iniquity"

So you can see JESUS=Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
Holiness is Godliness and Cleanliness is the closest to Godliness, the other commentator said with a strong conviction "I know JWs, Most of them if not all live clean lives"

So keep deluding yourself with false reasoning, each person on this planet believes he/she is holy once they engage in one form of worship or another. But it's when you're able to cite a large group of people (Organization) that you can say anything worthwhile about the virtue you're trying to talk about now (holiness) no matter how nice, kind or generous a person prove to be once he declare himself as a member of Boko Haram i'm 100% sure you won't wait a second to disappear from his presence! WHY not talk about holiness after all you've noticed other fine qualities?
Well the answer is simple he is a member of the world's deadliest group!
A commentator said "I know JWs, Most of them if not all live clean lives" Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18

Do you think such a commentator will say anything against having this group all around him as his neighbours?
You guys are indirectly judging yourselves because God's kingdom is coming to DESTROY all evildoers but you people have already declared JWs guiltless, what more do you think a right thinking person need to hear? 1Peter 2:12

[/b]"the other commentator said with a strong conviction "I know JWs, Most of them if not all live clean lives"
the other commentator said with a strong conviction ...I know JWs, Most of them if not all live clean lives"[b]

that commenter had given you proper massage and romans touch, although he still pointed Jesus to you as solution to sin..

You are gradually getting it, GODLINESS IS NOT = CLEANLINESS but they ( not the Word) said it's near GODLINESS.

ok, I also remember that they ( not the Word) said NEARNESS DOES NOT KILL A BIRD.
The following is what I see from the Word... if you are for Christ; this is what it means to be HOLY and RIGHTEOUS according to the Word not according to Watch tower
*. Colossians 3 :1"KJV: IF YE THEN BE RISEN WITH CHRIST, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

5"KJV:Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
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KJV:For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
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KJV:In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
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KJV:But now ye also PUT OFF ALL THESE; ANGER, WRATH, MALICE, BLASPHEMY, FILTHY COMMUNICATION out of your mouth.
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KJV: LIE NOT one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
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KJV:And have PUT ON THE NEW MAN, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
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KJV:Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but CHRIST IS ALL, AND IN ALL."

Use the Word as a mirror to know wether you are for Christ...

MaxInDHouse:
You mentioned INIQUITY but you failed to substantiate, consider the last post before yours the commentator never doubted the holiness and righteousness of the majority among JWs, you have been silence over the church you belong meaning you can belong anywhere so how come you're talking about holiness and righteousness when you never present any group for followers to observe?
Muslims, Buddhists, Traditionalists and the over 41,000 different religions claiming Christians with their various contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines also use to talk about holiness and righteousness, it's just a pity that they can't present WITNESSES to prove they truly know what they're saying! Act 1:8
My friend stop deceiving yourself!

[/b]# the last post before yours the commentator never doubted the holiness and righteousness of the majority among JWs#[b]
I have seen your Watch tower definition of holiness and righteousness.
[/i]#you have been silence over the church you belong #[i]

Church does not save souls. before I tell you about my church; I have to be sure you have given your life to the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

iyambz:
This guy, your comments make me laugh a lot. Janosky, I know JWs, most of them if not all live a clean life, but that will not get you saved. There is only one way to Heaven which is Jesus Christ. You want to go to Heaven, trust in what Christ did for you on the cross; you want to go to Hell, trust something else. Anyways, you are a no Heller. Tell me something that is your bible that I can't find in my KJV Bible less than 30 seconds. The key to understand the Scripture is to let the Author show you what it says, not the watch tower. It is the word of God that saves people, not an organization. God has magnified His word above His name (Psa 138:2) His word is more important than the name. I have led many to Christ but I can't take credit for that because it's the word of God that saves them, not me. There were people that lived before the N.T. was completed that were saved just by hearing and believing the gospel of the grace of God. You can see that from Acts to Philemon. Those people didn't have the Bible nor an organization. They heard and believed the gospel of their salvation. I'm just being gracious to you. I can't say much again. Try expand on your study; it will cost you nothing. God will show every man the truth so that all will be without excuse. I will speak no more on this matter.

[/b]"It is the word of God that saves people, not an organization."[b]

Everlasting truth... but Watch tower devotees will reject it

iyambz:
You no go sleep or rest? Why are under conviction if you truly believe you are on the right track? I've moved on man, you better do the same. Maybe you should go back to the elementary level to learn simple English. Even a child in the elementary knows that a light comes from the inside, not from the outside. Don't you know it's out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh? Don't you know you need light first before you can give others light? Will you give darkness to darkness? I'm just being gracious with you cause there was a time I was once a lost man like you. I just wish you are saved anyways.

JESUS will help him, let's pray for some of them...

HedwigesMaduro:
What always makes "Christians" think the KJV is the unadulterated Bible? Because it's written in old English? How different are they from Muslims who believe any Koran not written in Arabic is diluted?

Well, it interests me to let you know that all the things that have been declared good or better have some disadvantages. But their advantages are more than the disadvantages, that's why they are good.

All things have advantages and disadvantages; the ones with many advantages but less disadvantages = good✓;
while, the ones with more disadvantages but less advantages = bad ×

The KJV have less dangerous mistakes than them all. While the chief of all mischievous Bible perversions so called Bible version is the NWT. Believe it at the expense of your soul.

No say I no warn you...�

MaxInDHouse:
They are trying to hide behind a finger whereas it is impossible!
JEHOVAH has made a great name for himself in all the earth.
When Satan and other demons were struggling for portions on the surface of the earth JEHOVAH told the most powerful King "i am taking my people out of Egypt without a military force" and JEHOVAH did just so. He singlehandedly rescued a multitude from the world's most powerful army of that time.
JEHOVAH also brought his people to Canaan and drove away all pagans to prove that He is the Almighty.
Today JEHOVAH said while Satan's agents are fighting and killing themselves due to Politics and Racism He will unite his own people and make them shine as illuminators of PEACE globally.
All these pagans are crying today not because they've got anything to say against pure worship but they're ashamed that all their high places (Churches) has be devastated (brought to nothing) before the mountain of Jehovah so they are bitterly enraged towards JEHOVAH'S people who are far high on the mountain top that everyone can see! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to Isaiah 2:2
So it's paining them to their marrow that none of them could mention any name side by side with JEHOVAH'S Organization.
Please don't go near them, don't let them know anything about you because they're full with fury seeking whom to bite like venomous serpents.
Just imagine out of all what he could pick to argue about the only thing he chose is the word ORGANIZATION out of jealousy that Satan's camp can never be ORGANIZED! Luke 11:23

[/b]"JEHOVAH has made a great name for himself in all the earth."[b]

And that name is JESUS!!!

Janosky:
2 Timothy 2:19-20 is a quote of Isaiah 52:11 "Let everyone who bears the name of Jehovah depart from iniquity"

You dey dodge Matthew 4:8 and John 20:17.

Bros, Continue to misquote the holy scriptures & DECEIVE yourself.

[/b]"2 Timothy 2:19-20 is a quote of Isaiah 52:11 "Let everyone who bears the name of Jehovah depart from iniquity"[b]

Confirmation that Jesus = Jehovah.
Thanks for your understanding

Janosky:
2 Timothy 2:19-20 is a quote of Isaiah 52:11 "Let everyone who bears the name of Jehovah depart from iniquity"

You dey dodge Matthew 4:8 and John 20:17.

Bros, Continue to misquote the holy scriptures & DECEIVE yourself.

My God said to me BE YE HOLY FOR I AM HOLY...
Just carefully consider the following Bible verses and know that the organization is on a wrong path:

*. 1 Peter 1:15 "KJV:But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
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KJV:Because it is written, BE YE HOLY; FOR I AM HOLY."

*. Ephesians 1:4 "KJV:According as HE HATH CHOSEN US in him before the foundation of the world, THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY and without blame before him in love:"

Note: HE HATH CHOSEN US.... THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY

*. 1 Thessalonians 4:7 "KJV:For GOD HATH not CALLED US unto uncleanness, but UNTO HOLINESS.
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KJV:He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit."


Note: GOD HATH...CALLED US...UNTO HOLINESS...

and janosky is despising God...

MaxInDHouse:
It's pathetic that you don't know the real meaning to INIQUITY!

So let's go now: EQUITY means a balance view that makes up with others around you, where there is equity there can't be wars because everyone will be OK with the way things is working out for the benefit of all. It's INIQUITY that begats agitation which leads to hatred and finally killings. The fact that your fellow believers from other lands can just pick up weapons with the aim of killing you due to Racism and Politics without having a second thought about what you share (FAITH) is clear evidence that your worship is based on hypocrisy the mother of INIQUITY!

Watch tower definition of iniquity, seen. Let the 8 men mark you good.

HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS is not in their books.

Console yourself...

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchgoers!
Can you show me where the word "Christians" is found in the Old Testament?
Come on, God's Holy Spirit is teaching Jesus' true followers New Things {John 14:26} so you can't expect to find it written in the books concluded before those things are revealed.
But it's through the FRUIT of what the Christians are doing that you will know they're still on track, for instance they will continue to preach and teach in their neighbourhood {Malachi 3:16; Matthew 10:11-13} they will do this without charge {10:8} they will make people drop all weapons of war {Matthew 26:52} they will make them worship together as one family {Zephaniah 3:9} they will eradicate Racism and Politics from their midst {Micah 4:1-3} these are the evidence of the presence of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} but if you just feel like questioning these fine works simply because they choose to bear new name {Isaiah 65:15} or say something you don't understand {John 6:63-66} then you're free to pitch your tent elsewhere no wahala! Luke 11:23

We are delivered to server Him without fear, in HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS before Him all the day of our lives (Luke 1:74-75)

He that nameth the name of Christ should depart from iniquity ( 2 Timothy 2:19-20)

Child rapists should 1st purge themselves ( repent) and the Lord will purge them.

*. Luke 1:74 "KJV:That he would grant unto us, that WE BEING DELIVERED OUT OF the hand of OUR ENEMIES MIGHT SERVE HIM WITHOUT FEAR,
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KJV: IN HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS BEFORE HIM, ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE."

*. 2 Timothy 2:19 "KJV:Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, LET EVERY ONE THAT NAMETH THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INIQUITY."

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi Talahi you have misconstrued the whole thing out of ignorance Sir!

The Church or Congregation means a group of worshipers meeting in a place that's why there is the Church of Satan today since they're also a group of worshipers too. Organization is appropriate as the Churches (congregations) have filled the earth with millions of devotees.
According to the Bible book of Revelation Jesus was reproving the Churches in different locations but when they're now everywhere on the planet it is best called Organization as they're ORGANIZED for the same purpose!

As for the verse you cited to back the underlined well John's discipleship is not a product of the devil because Jesus himself was baptized by John Sir!

Please show me the word "organization" in the whole Bible...

MaxInDHouse:
That's the promise a good shepherd made to his sheep {Matthew 16:18} he said "the gates of hell (grave) will not overpower my church (group)"

Please do you think the gates of grave has not prevailed over you people that keep killing one another due to the contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines among the users of KJV?

Well among the users of NWT there is absolute PEACE just as Jesus promised {John 14:27} due to oneness in thought {John 17:22} and LOVE for the entire brotherhood of fellow believers globally! John 13:34-35

Please next time you're chatting with JWs think deeply so that you don't cite scriptures that reveals your flaws! 2Corinthians 4:4

The verse I quoted has the word CHURCH in it but you are a devotee of a certain n.g organization,

now tell me how that verse is referring to you?

The church of Christ must increase but the organization of the devil must decrease (John 3:30)

The op shows that the earliest copies of these versions contain these verses.

Why do they remove them now?

May be they were copying from the KJV in the beginning... and told lies to readers that they translated from Greek or Hebrews original text.

Liars will always be liars. Continue to edit your books as frequently as you want...

The light has shown into the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not:

*. John 1:5 "KJV:And THE LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKNESS; and THE DARKNESS COMPREHENDED IT NOT."

All athiests version (the darkness) will continue to fail no matter how many times they update them!

MaxInDHouse:
It's clear that all members of JWs globally trusted fully in our NWT, when we PREACH and TEACH we only make use of other versions due to those who aren't used to the version Jesus Authorized "NWT"!


The Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} can't be justified if there is no PEACE first in the midst of his own followers {John 14:27} God is not impartial, His right to judge the world first comes through the preaching and teaching program commissioned by his only begotten son {John 3:16-19} it is this work that will first prove that Jesus is the SALT of the world as his followers are at PEACE amongst themselves {Matthew 5:13} without this there is no justification for destroying a world of rebellious and troublesome people. Revelations 6:3-4
That's what Jesus meant when he said about his true followers "a city situated on the mountain top can never be hidden" {Matthew 5:14-16} he is ready to present something unique to the world.
Please let the world see that thing, i think Janosky is presenting the number one most peace loving worshipers on this planet (Jehovah's Witnesses) this group are making use of a version of the Bible known as New Word Translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT)
You too just need to do that to prove that your KJV was authorized by the Prince of Peace (Jesus Christ)

Have you checked the recent population declined and the selling of the kingdom Halls?

Evidence that your advertisement for the non governmental organization is failing...

But you can continue to console yourself here!

iyambz:
This is JWs salvation plan “To receive everlasting life in the earthly paradise, we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” This is found in their magazine Feb 15, 1983; page 12. Now tell the readers if this is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to (1 Cor 15:1-4) which is the gospel of the grace of God. No clear salvation plan, just works works works for salvation, and that’s why they are in bondage and trying to drag the simple to hell with them. Is this not what the Jewish people were busy doing? Trying to establish their own righteousness. I feel sorry for you. You better receive the cure which is Jesus Christ before it's too late.

He is afraid to accept Jesus Christ into his heart because the Watch tower is already occupying it and he is afraid of the consequences of the allegiance hr pledged to the organization.

Selling his precious soul for naught...