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DappaD:
The earlier Christians already had guidelines to follow based on principles found at 1Corinthians 10:20-22 and several others.

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating
birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief
was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better
than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday
celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”— (“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).
Even a well respected historical writer who was a Jew in the first century attested to birthdays being a pagan custom:
“Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and
thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.”—(Josephus. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26)
Okay go and tell the followers of Jesus who saw him live and direct to confessed their sins to their master for believing the above?

You are now using respected historian in place of the scriptures: I don't believe them. I only know that pagans have the duplicate of ALL the practices.

DappaD:
So you cannot prove that birthdays are NOT associated with false worship? For the fact alone that you’re making unnecessary comparisons here and there means you already know it has no Scriptural support so by force by fire you must find a connection between the things that happen naturally to ALL humans and already established pagan celebrations? Again, please quote me ONLY when you have SOLID points else I’ll ignore. I’m not dealing with slow people today.

Ecclesiastes 3 :1-6 is there for you to read.

My point is, positive happenings and negative happenings are mentioned in the chapter. If you separate them, birthday/ the day to be born will surely be with dancing, rejoicing.

What I'm saying is birthday in the chapter worth a happening that should command dancing, celebration, rejoicing.

I have also told you that the the wedding day dancing that you are so fascinated with does not appear there.

Moreover, you are a Watch tower devotee, watch tower devotees don't believe the scripture but their 8 men.

MaxInDHouse:
All you need to do is thorough meditation whenever you see, hear or read any article. This will help you to distinguish between the righteousness of God and that of humans. Romans 10:2-3
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization started long ago when God called Moses to go and free the Israelites from Egypt. After their release from slavery then God gave them His commandments, it's this commandments that stood ever since then as a barrier between God's ORGANIZED people and all other races! Exodus 19:5
The covenant God made with that nation becomes the yardstick of measurement for God's righteousness, whoever wants to become God's friend only need to learn the righteousness of God from His ORGANIZED people.
That's why Pagans like Rahab, Ruth, Uriah and so many others left their own people to become God's friends as they humbly join God's people and live their lives in harmony with the requirements their own people never knew. Deuteronomy 31:12
The chord of continuity was broken when Satan killed all the Apostles of Jesus who were like the foundation stones {Revelations 21:14} of the new covenant God promised to establish with His people {Jeremiah 31:31-34} after their dead or let's say "while they were sleeping" {Matthew 13:25} Satan initiated his own agents and empowered them politically to overshadow God's organization, that's how so many pagan customs like Birthdays, Christmas, Easter, New Year and so many others became the practices that was difficult for many to blot out during the dark ages.
But when Jesus returned in 1914 he acted like Cyrus of Persia to release God's people from spiritual bondage and just like Ezra and Nehemiah Jesus began teaching them the HERITAGE of their ancestors that they never knew. That's why Bible Students like Russell, Rutherford and others were practicing those pagan customs until they began to realise that these practices are not in line with the HERITAGE they want to imbibe.
So the ORGANIZATION had to let go of all there pagan customs. But who could have help them know all these sacred secrets if not Jesus who returned as a mighty spirit being to start correcting the errors of his imperfect but faithful, loyal and obedient followers?
That's why God's word referred to all those that will survive the great tribulation as an ORGANIZED PEOPLE who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb! {Revelations 7:14} did you know why Apostle John said "i don't know them"
Well it's because these ones never knew the HERITAGE of God's people but after they began taking in orders from the mighty spirit being (Jesus) they were also able to meet up with God's requirements!
That is why God sanctified them and bought them in with the value of the blood of Jesus so that their robes has become white as wool in the sight of God {Isaiah 1:18} please listen to JEHOVAH'S utterance regarding them:
This is the HERITAGE of the servants of JEHOVAH and their righteousness is from me says JEHOVAH!
So even if people like you stubbornly blinded your hearts to the light that's guiding them in the path of righteousness {Psalms 23:3} people like me will come from the East, from the West, from the North and from the South saying to this Organized people: "we will go with you people because we have heard that God is with you people" Zechariah 8:2
May you have PEACE!

In this your long epistle, no scripture is presented to show us that wedding day dancing is not associated with false worship while birthday celebration does;

Building halls did not with false worship but Christmas celebration did.

achorladey:
You can see how he used Job 3:1 to show how Job cursed his day of his birth naturally

In otherwords his day used there means day of birth.

He even said it in a way that shows it is a principle to follow by others. Lol

achorladey:
You mean every BIRTHDAYS there is, was created by pharaohs and for pharaohs?

Exactly.

DappaD:
However you want to put it, it is not supported by Scripture and was practiced by die-hard pagans. Genesis 40:20-22, Mark 6:21-29

I believe Barristter07 and Janosky have done justice to this subject already—explaining from the Scriptures and accurate historical records that the celebration does not originate with pure worship and hence does not please God so I need not bother myself explaining more.
The way you replied to me, is sort of sending the message that you need a “go-ahead” or an approval from the Witnesses? Okay so if they don’t agree with you, kasala don burst be that? Mark 7:5

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"...hence does not please God...."[b]

Please can you show where He said that He is not pleased with birthday celebration?

blueAgent:
No one celebrates the day he was born, rather people thank God that day for making it possible for them to see one year added to their life.
Of course a year in a mans life automatically starts from the day he was born.

To me be happy, rejoicing with friends for additional, unmerited year added to one's years remains the greatest celebration after our redemption.

DappaD:
Children are a special present from God(Psalm 127:3) so when a child is born, the parents rejoice just as they would when receiving gifts.
But like has been said, there is no Scriptural backup you can give in support of your birthday celebrations instead it’s using unrelated points so that it could be that you gave a word out.
The highlighted is where because the line is drawn because it is tied with false worship(Genesis 40:20-22) and there is absolutely nothing natural about continuously celebrating the day one is born after his birth. In fact, regarding the anguish and suffering humans go through(Romans 5:12), it is rightly expected that one curses the day he was born and not rejoice over it(Job 3:1) so again, there is nothing natural about celebrating one’s birth.

[/b]"...there is absolutely nothing natural [b] about continuously celebrating the day one is born after his birth. In fact, regarding the anguish and..."

A. You showed up here and posted that people are supporting practices that has no scriptural backup;

I then posted that if it is because "it does not have scriptural backup" ( i.e according to your organization ), then your organization is full of practices that have no scriptural backup:

1. Dancing during weddings
2. Painting and perming.

B. You posted that Christmas celebration is associated with false worship.

I posted that if that is the case, your organization should not have been building halls. Because it was started by pagans or associated with false worship ( in your words).1 Chronicles 10: 10; 2 Samuel 7:1-6.

You now posted that "it is natural" to dance during weddings but unnatural to dance during birthday. You have left the idea of scriptural to natural.

Confess your sins to Jesus now and come out of the organization....
Haughtiness is very bad. Humbly apologize for false accusations.

DappaD:
Please go over my post as carefully as you can and show me where I ever said such a thing.

It's ok by me if you don't understand that that is what you mean by the statement below:
[/b]"...Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13..…[b]

They just want to intimidate everyone

DappaD:
Please endeavour to quote me when you have solid points. I dislike going round and round in circles especially when the other party constantly spews unsound logic.

You have already discovered that calling wedding day happy day but birthday sad day spews unsound logic.

Just humbly apologize!

DappaD:
Let me even make things easier for you. We all know there are certain things that come natural to all humans based on conscience and a working brain(Romans 2:14-15) and there are what we’ll term “values” or tradition that varies from culture to culture.
When one is in a happy mood such as attending a wedding, it is only natural that the person begins to move his body in a rhythm(dancing) because that is the time apportioned for it(Ecclesiastes 3:4b) whereas when one is in a sad mood, perhaps a loved one dies, he feels hurt and then mourns the loss of that person since there is also a time apportioned for it. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4a

Like I said earlier, these kind of things come naturally to all humans but please what is natural about celebrating the day that one was born? I mean, if the white men who invaded Africa didn’t bring their tradition of celebrating birthdays, would anybody have cared to know the day they were born talk more go ahead to celebrate it? So what is natural about it? Job 3:1

Learn how to directly use the Scriptures to support your argument because using adjacent and unrelated points to make an argument means nothing.

[/b]"So what is natural about it? "[b]

The thing that makes people cry when loved ones die is exactly what makes them dance and celebrate when loved ones are born. It is a great thing of joy for a year ty be added to ones years. Showing appreciation for one more year added.

You are deceived if you can't show appreciation for one more year added.


Did God command any body to cry/ weep for his dead, and forbade people who dance and rejoice because one more year is added to their years?

DappaD:
Let me even make things easier for you. We all know there are certain things that come natural to all humans based on conscience and a working brain(Romans 2:14-15) and there are what we’ll term “values” or tradition that varies from culture to culture.
When one is in a happy mood such as attending a wedding, it is only natural that the person begins to move his body in a rhythm(dancing) because that is the time apportioned for it(Ecclesiastes 3:4b) whereas when one is in a sad mood, perhaps a loved one dies, he feels hurt and then mourns the loss of that person since there is also a time apportioned for it. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4a

Like I said earlier, these kind of things come naturally to all humans but please what is natural about celebrating the day that one was born? I mean, if the white men who invaded Africa didn’t bring their tradition of remembering birthdays, would anybody have cared to know the day they were born talk more go ahead to celebrate it? So what is natural about it? Job 3:1

Learn how to directly use the Scriptures to support your argument because using adjacent and unrelated points to make an argument means nothing.

[/b]"When one is in a happy mood such as attending a wedding, it is only natural that the person begins to move his body in a rhythm(dancing) because that is the time apportioned for it(Ecclesiastes 3:4b) "[b]

Wedding should be happy mood but birthday should be sad mood.

The word opposite of mourn is laugh, rejoice, dance.
Ecclesiastes 3:1-6 talks of birth and death; rejoice and mourn. No wedding is mentioned.

Yet your organization said you should not rejoice and dance on birthday but you should do it on wedding day.

You are welcome from Watch tower!

Although there is no place where it's said that wedding day is the time apportioned for dancing.

Emusan:
So was it pagan who created and established the DAY which people are celebrating?

It was Pharoh of Egypt that created the day. Lol

MaxInDHouse:
Is there any human society where people don't sing, play musical instruments and dance?

NO! So it's no man's culture because all people does that.

Is there any human society where people don't celebrate birthdays?

YES! The lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob do sing, play musical instruments and dance but never has anyone from that race celebrated birthday!

You can not successfully show me where people dance in a wedding. Or the command to do it.

Wearing of wrings is not a commandments or principle in the Bible.

We have practices and principles. Practices do not carry punishment. Example, wearing of ear wrings or any wring at all. In other words, if you like do or don't.

Principles carry punishment, example circumcision of all male.

*. Exodus 4:24 "KJV:And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that THE LORD met him, and SOUGHT TO KILL HIM.
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KJV:Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
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KJV:So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION."

note: "THE LORD SOUGHT TO KILL HIM (Moses) BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION"

MaxInDHouse:
Is there any human society where people don't sing, play musical instruments and dance?

NO! So it's no man's culture because all people does that.

Is there any human society where people don't celebrate birthdays?

YES! The lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob do sing, play musical instruments and dance but never has anyone from that race celebrated birthday!

Max, janosky said Jesus said Watch tower should 'teach them all things that He has commanded'. We are searching for the command to dance in the Word.

But you are pointing at the society; is the society the Jesus? Because I want to KNOWMORE o!

Humbly accept that the organization also has pagans practices in their midst.

DappaD:
So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices?

No nah, the Levites should stand under sun and offer worship to Jehovah because they should not build a house for their own God?

Lol. That’s the weakest stance you can ever take because pure worship was only carried out in Israel and the Law set them aside from the rest of the nations surrounding them. Deuteronomy 4:5-8

Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21) so you already lost it completely using this as a point unless you can show where God incorporated birthdays into Israelite’s culture(Leviticus 18:3) or even gave his blessing/approval of any birthday celebration like he did with the temple? 2Chronicles 7:1

Lol can you correct the lies below:
"[/b]Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21" [b]

God and David, who brought the idea of building a Temple?

At what time is Tabernacle = temple?

Canopy and the temple have no comparison.

DappaD:
So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices?

No nah, the Levites should stand under sun and offer worship to Jehovah because they should not build a house for their own God?

Lol. That’s the weakest stance you can ever take because pure worship was only carried out in Israel and the Law set them aside from the rest of the nations surrounding them. Deuteronomy 4:5-8

Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21) so you already lost it completely using this as a point unless you can show where God incorporated birthdays into Israelite’s culture(Leviticus 18:3) or even gave his blessing/approval of any birthday celebration like he did with the temple? 2Chronicles 7:1

[/b]"No nah, the Levites should stand under sun and offer worship to Jehovah because they should not build a house for their own God?"[b]

God told them to erect what we call canopy today,

But King David, having associated with the Philistines and see what they built for their gods, thought of doing similar thing to appreciate his GOD.

This is what watch tower is calling [/color]associated/ originated with false worship[color=#990000]

And I'm telling you that dancing is associated with false worship;

building halls is associated with false worship;

wearing rings is associated with false worship;

there's no single practice in the organization that is not associated with false worship.

DappaD:
So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices?

No nah, the Levites should stand under sun and offer worship to Jehovah because they should not build a house for their own God?

Lol. That’s the weakest stance you can ever take because pure worship was only carried out in Israel and the Law set them aside from the rest of the nations surrounding them. Deuteronomy 4:5-8

Besides, Jehovah is the one who ordered the erection of the tabernacle(Exodus chapter 37) and later the temple(2Samuel 7:13) even giving specifications about how the temple should be built(1Chronicles 28:9-21) so you already lost it completely using this as a point unless you can show where God incorporated birthdays into Israelite’s culture(Leviticus 18:3) or even gave his blessing/approval of any birthday celebration like he did with the temple? 2Chronicles 7:1

Lol. Read these your comment and compare with your guy's, then remove the Watch tower glass from your face:

[/b]"So because there are similarities in the activities of the Israelites and the nations, it now gives one the excuse to carry on in their practices? "

"...pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them"[b]

No record of dancing during weddings in the Word. It is pagans practices, yet your organization are into it.

They can even play and dance to Hiphop music, where is it copy from?

DappaD:
There are a lot of other things wrong with your post but I’ll address just the highlighted.

Doesn’t the Bible say that whether we’re eating or drinking, we should do it to God’s glory? 1Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 2:24
How does engaging in a practice that has so far been proven to originate with false worship give glory to God?

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink” (Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

I thought your moniker spoke much about the kind of person you are, that is, being inquisitive and all that. I’m beginning to see that’s not really the case. Because if you indeed wanted to KNOWMORE, you’ll figure out that the Witnesses have been right all along because you cannot mix celebrations associated with false worship(birthday, Christmas, Easter) and true worship since it has never been acceptable from God’s standpoint at any point in history. 2Kings 17:32-34, 2Corinthians 6:14-17

I have actually sought for a JW who will volunteer to help me KNOWMORE...if you have come up to help, that's ok...

Below is the submission of one of your fellow:

[/b]"...pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them"[b]

Do you agree with him?

@ DappaD
...
Do you know that pagans were the 1st to build houses/halls for their gods before David thought of doing the same?

So can you see that your Jehovah's halls are pagans practices?

*. 1 Samuel 5:2 "KJV:When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into THE HOUSE OF DAGON, and set it by Dagon"

*. 1 Chronicles 10:10 "KJV:And they put his armour in the house of their gods, and fastened his head in THE TEMPLE OF DAGON."

this was before the temple in Jerusalem was built.

So now, what do you say is your reason for not celebrating birthdays and Christmas?

Will you avoid building halls for the same reason?

Watch tower is more or less fault finders, accuser of the brethren:

*. 2 Timothy 3:3 "KJV:Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE ACCUSERS, incontinent, fierce, DESPISERS OF THOSE THAT ARE GOOD,"

*. Revelation 12:10 "KJV:And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night."

Watch tower is cast down, in Jesus name.

DappaD:
There are a lot of other things wrong with your post but I’ll address just the highlighted.

Doesn’t the Bible say that whether we’re eating or drinking, we should do it to God’s glory? 1Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 2:24
How does engaging in a practice that has so far been proven to originate with false worship give glory to God?

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink” (Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

I thought your moniker spoke much about the kind of person you are, that is, being inquisitive and all that. I’m beginning to see that’s not really the case. Because if you indeed wanted to KNOWMORE, you’ll figure out that the Witnesses have been right all along because you cannot mix celebrations associated with false worship(birthday, Christmas, Easter) and true worship since it has never been acceptable from God’s standpoint at any point in history. 2Kings 17:32-34, 2Corinthians 6:14-17

You have not said anything important. But let's consider this thing:

1. Your founders celebrated Christmas and birthday. They were Jehovah's servants in those days and they were the only true worshipers. Or, were they not?

2. Birthday and Christmas celebration was stopped because it is associated/originated with false worship - according to your organization;

Now can you show me and help me KNOWMORE where it's written in the Word that there should be dancing in wedding ceremony.

Your organization dance to Hiphop music during weddings. A practice "originated/associated with false"

Why then are you accusing others of the same thing you are doing?

You can help janosky answer the below...

Janosky:
What was the Almighty Father doing in Luke 15:22 and Exodus 35:22 ?
God approves of wedding rings and wedding.

Matthew 28:20, Jesus gave no approval of birthdays celebrations,

Jehovah's created floral beauty has been used in true worship. The lampstand in the tabernacle was decorated with “flowers of almond . . . and blossoms.” (Exodus 25:31-34) Engravings in the temple included garlands and palm trees. (1 Kings 6:18, 29, 32) Clearly, pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them.​.

[/b]"...pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them"[b]


Using the same yardstick, pagans birthday celebration or any other things for that matter does not mean that true worshipers always have to avoid using them.

Do you know that pagans were the 1st to build houses/halls for their gods before David thought of doing the same?

So can you see that your Jehovah's halls are pagans practices?

*. 1 Samuel 5:2 "KJV:When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into THE HOUSE OF DAGON, and set it by Dagon"

*. 1 Chronicles 10:10 "KJV:And they put his armour in the house of their gods, and fastened his head in THE TEMPLE OF DAGON."

this was before the temple in Jerusalem was built.

So now, what do you say is your reason for not celebrating birthdays and Christmas?

Will you avoid building halls for the same reason?

Watch tower is more or less fault finders, accuser of the brethren:

*. 2 Timothy 3:3 "KJV:Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE ACCUSERS, incontinent, fierce, DESPISERS OF THOSE THAT ARE GOOD,"

*. Revelation 12:10 "KJV:And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night."

Watch tower is cast down, in Jesus name.

Janosky:
Matthew 28:20, Bros, does Jesus agree with your claim?
Matthew 28:20, you are telling this forum that obeying Jesus Christ is ERROR.
Issorait !

Below is Matthew 28:20

"KJV:Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen"

Which of the sentences here agrees with your claim?

achorladey:
Na that same holy spirit your founding fathers like Russell, Rutherford e.t.c do those celebrations up there despite. The holy spirit didn't remind them of Leviticus 18:3.

That same holy spirit equally made it clear that your members can copy and do things BABYLON THE GREAT does and inherit heaven too.

Before I forget, Matthew 28:20 was sent down by the holy Spirit in year 2000 C.E.

The spirit wanted them to enjoy small
Lol,

Janosky:
Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

[/b]Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?[b]

Did Jesus taught that couples should wear wedding wrings or flowers for wedding or burial?
The things watch tower point fingers at others, they have their own version of it.

This is one of the reasons it seems as if people are against them, when the same thing is pointed to them.

Flowers for burial ground, mourning, coffin, wedding wrings, kisses, etc, are all pagans practices; or show us where Jehovah gave you go ahead.

Janosky:
Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?

"[/b]..., is mourning exclusively for pagans"[b]


Let's substitute the other words for mourning and see your answer:

is birthday celebration exclusively for pagans?

is Christmas celebration exclusively for pagans?

What are your answers?

I have never celebrated my birthday but I don't condemn those who are doing it (i.e. if no sin is involved).
We are adviced to invite our friends and invite a preacher who will preach to them during the celebration. That way, some souls can be won into the kingdom and Jesus will be glorified. No buying/drinking of alcohol, no worldliness of any type. If you know you can't keep to these, better no do am.

blueAgent:
You dodged answering my question.
Are christains supposed to mourn since pagans do it?

I like this your question. There's no single practice in the church or any Christian assembly that pagans do not have its photocopy/version.

The person who is serving Satan does what is doing to glorify Satan while the person serving God does his own to glorify God.

As for me who 1st start am no be anything, but who you have in mind for doing it.

The gentiles come follow dey do animal sacrifice, Paul said their own (i.e the gentiles') is for Satan.

*. Genesis 31:54 "KJV:Then JACOB OFFERED SACRIFICE UPON THE MOUNT, and called his brethren to eat bread: and they did eat bread, and tarried all night in the mount."

*. Acts 14:13 "KJV:Then THE PRIEST OF JUPITER, which was before their city, BROUGHT OXEN and garlands unto the gates, AND WOULD HAVE DONE SACRIFICE with the people."

*. 1 Corinthians 10:20 "KJV:But I say, that THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."

Trying to claim that you are superior christians to others because of birthday party and Christmas day celebration is ERROR.

How I wish this man will become the country president...

achorladey:
Achorladey were you excommunicated from Jehovah's organization & did not sin?

The question was DUBIOUS and CONTRADICTORY. You remember?

Just dey quote 2 Thessalonians 3:6 as if na verse 6 that verse take end .

You keep shouting we are Jehovah's servant, we are Jehovah's servant. You cannot even sit quietly and study how your Jehovah dealt with nations of Israel over the years despite sinning repeatedly as a case study.

Oh my and another person got the question right without explanation. You should do better Mr educated literate

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"The question was DUBIOUS and CONTRADICTORY."[b]

Make una no kill person with laughter I beg

MaxInDHouse:
We're not denying the fact that we SHUN some people but try to know the reasons why we do SHUN.
No matter your lifestyle we will treat you as our neighbour and extend that neighbourly love towards you, after all you're our neighbour.
When you make a vow before God and man and later decided to decline from fulfilling your vow we'll try to help you maintain it but when you insist on turning away from fulfilling your vow then WILL SHUN YOU!
If you have the manner to blackmail people even when they're trying to correct your views about them then you don't deserve to be accorded any relevance!

The below is very important, attend to it:
[/b]
"Tell me where it was said in Numbers 30:2 you should shun those who break their VOWS..."[b]