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junnyjake:
According to Rorh, he's only adding 4 new players.

OK with your own assessment,pls which positions do we need to beef up cos having Uduokhai, Akpoguma and Jordon Toru at a go looks some how

junnyjake:
The only way Shehu and Aina makes it to the WC is if Shehu takes the place of a midfielder, which is unlikely.

Pls let the German trio reach camp first then we know how far.

I watched the trio closely this season and with my critical look,I rate Uduokhai but still normal defender.I bet it with you Akpoguma and Torunagbia Jordon are not better than Awaziem,may be Rohr need them for his 3-5-2 formation

ChrisKels:
Yes he is, that's the position begging for personnel(s) in that midfield. If Sokari comes good (secures a move to France), then, we would have a better sub in him for John Mikel. The few times Ndubuisi Agu subbed Mikel, our midfield crumbled and it lead to calls for Joel Obi, Azubuike Okechukwu et al.

Come March, I would wanna say thank goodness for the emergence of Sokari.


Off topic; From an insider, Rohr is making progress with his pursuit of the German trio. I heard they were sent a template to study the plans of the coach and how they will fit in. Rohr is seriously considering the 3-5-2 formation and OLA Aina might miss the World Cup. It's a straight battle between Aina and Shehu whoever does better in the scrimmages gets the nod to join Ebuehi who has booked his ticket with his impeccable performance against Argentina. Aina is better going forward when we play four at the back but Shehu defends better, it's a pussle (Rohr's headache).

Fingers crossed ; if Rohr succeeds in luring these boys before March, then expect this rearguard against Poland ;


..................................Uzoho

................... Ekong Balogun Felix*

...........Ebuehi Ndidi Mikel Onazi Idowu

............................Moses Iwobi



Bench;

Awaziem or Akpoguma* for Balogun
Toru* for Idowu
Etc etc

I pray Sokari would not be another Nwakili.

My Oga is insider saying Felix Uduokhai, Kevin Akpoguma, Jordon Torunarigha are sure bet to WC?If that's the case then am seeing repeated performance of 2014 meaning some players who sacrificed for the team during qualifier likely to be dropped for FB.

Initially what we thought here was a keeper, a midfielder and an attacker to beef up the team but now defenders.But with your info now likely for us to have new set of players.

Sir with your comment it seem Rohr has settled for 3-5-2 formation and is looking for players to prosecute it which paved way for the likes of Uduokhai, Akpoguma, Toru.

I hope it works out cos am sensing danger cos we had a system that made us qualified for WC but it seems 45 minutes performance against Argentina is changing things now and Rohr should remember we have Argentina to contend with who are a great performance at WC no matter what,Croatia is there which w not be an easy match cos it would determine our stand in the group,also Iceland very unpredictable match.

This should be a state visit to Old Kwara state that comprised present Kwara and Kogi state.I was amongst the kids from various primay schools lined up to welcome head of state Major General Buhari.

It's a pity after graduating from university 19 years ago now married with three kids the same Buhari is now our President.As a child I know him as a President now my children see him as a President.

Kai wahala dey,naija youth pls wake up enough of old recycling politicians.

kennysville:
Lolzzzzz. Excellent analysis. Except that e get k-leg small

The problem I have with all of these is when the rules change, you wont be here to defend it and clearly show us what really happened. I never wanted to comment on this APOTY but i think I have had enough! Left to me, the award is a popularity contest. Its no longer about contributions to the world of football. Even your analysis says it all.

This is why when you watch talent shows, absurd people win in a ridiculous manner that befuddles the mind. And still we will have some weird way of explaining it away.

All the goals Okocha scored in the EPL nko? Werent they enough for him to be named APOTY? Ever since he left bolton wanderers, what has become of them? You wanna know? They wandered throungh lower tier leagues. At least he was named BBC African footballer twice. Where was all this recognition in Caf? So my friend, this analysis sweet as it sounds, is still a biased one.

If Caf wants to put things right, it shouldnt be about exploits in European leagues. The parameters need to be a lot more clearer and not on sentimental speculation of international rating. And certainly also not on goal scoring prowess. End of story!

Thanks but i will not accept that am being biased.

Nigerian players cannot set the standard or criteria on how CAF should does her things regard APOTY,they should try to measure up to the criteria and only way is to continue working hard to merit the award.

I remember of recent Mikel and Enyeama almost nick it so i don't see CAF being sentimental,this is a body that considered Ekong for the same award

kennysville:
Lolzzzzz. Excellent analysis. Except that e get k-leg small

The problem I have with all of these is when the rules change, you wont be here to defend it and clearly show us what really happened. I never wanted to comment on this APOTY but i think I have had enough! Left to me, the award is a popularity contest. Its no longer about contributions to the world of football. Even your analysis says it all.

This is why when you watch talent shows, absurd people win in a ridiculous manner that befuddles the mind. And still we will have some weird way of explaining it away.

All the goals Okocha scored in the EPL nko? Werent they enough for him to be named APOTY? Ever since he left bolton wanderers, what has become of them? You wanna know? They wandered throungh lower tier leagues. At least he was named BBC African footballer twice. Where was all this recognition in Caf? So my friend, this analysis sweet as it sounds, is still a biased one.

If Caf wants to put things right, it shouldnt be about exploits in European leagues. The parameters need to be a lot more clearer and not on sentimental speculation of international rating. And certainly also not on goal scoring prowess. End of story!

double post

Daejoyoung:
But this is true, sentiments aside. We know the 3-5-3 formation is not new, but it's now much more popular than ever before all thanks to Conte's Chelsea, and Moses was key as that overlapping wingback in such a system.
l have also heard English analysts call him the best RWB in the world. This may be true ONLY/ ESPECIALLY when referring to that 3-5-3 formation.

Pls are you talking of EPL or football in general cos i will never accept "MOSES changed FOOTBALL" or Conte made 3-5-2 popular in the world of football cos this formation was even more popular in the Bundesliga so why the hype as if the formation is new to football.

Mind you English pundits are free to say anything cos i don't take them serious due to over exaggeration.I don't think Bundesliga or LA liga would praise Conte to the extent of saying he brought something unique in 3-5-2 formation that has been in vogue for so many years.

Mind you am a great Chelsea fan since 80s

darkelf:
Well said bro.

It is even sadder that with the myriad of Nigerian players in Europe, the only person we are banking on is Vis Moses. Is he the only one earning salary?

A wing back for that matter. Where are the so-called attackers?

I once argued that our Stars may not just be doing well enough to catch their coaches attention but my argument was refuted on the grounds that the coaches have no plans for some of our players.

I can understand if some coaches are adamant and insist on certain players but in the case of nacho (a very talented player, and it pains me to write this), you can't just be going down like that and blame it on Claude or pep.

These coaches gave you opportunities; what did you do with them?

In the world of football, competition is stiff and even if you are given a cameo appearance, make maximum use of it because there are many players waiting for you to slip-up to take your position, even the coaches are under pressure to deliver and may not have patience with unproductive attackers. This is the plain truth.

Mangala was a burst before pep came and he has improved greatly, pep knows how to bring out the best from players. Why was Nacho's case different?

If we want to start celebrating our players, we need to start demanding more from them, CAF award or FIFA awards are no joke. I pray our players prove themselves as world beaters in Russia.

I heard recently that Rohr has visited some of the clubs where our players ply their trades to demand for more playing time for some of them. Nice one sir but that's the best he can do. It's left to them to demand for loan or permanent moves to get more playing time or else face the grim reality that they may not be in Russia. I trust Rohr

My 2 cents

God bless you bro

BascoVanVeli:
The world of course. Even we have used a dimension of it, that did not come out of the sky. Every team that uses it will be looking for wingbacks that mirror Victor Moses.

OK i rest my case no need to go further.

BascoVanVeli:
That is done by players who are mostly British. To put in perspective even Ighalo was overlooked for Watford players player of the season the year he finished as the top scorer in England. There is a bias toward non English players.

Well it seems you are not happy with Moses omission cos I know you knew Africa players like Drogba,Yaya Toure, Nwankwo Kanu,Emma Adebayour,Aiyegbeni Yakubu,Austin Okocha won numerous awards in EPL.

BascoVanVeli:
He was a big party to the 3-4-3 revolution that took over last season. I remember that even here some of our best and brightest predicted that the system would never work. My argument then and now is that Victor Moses is a major reason why things work out. We have seen them underperform countless times when he is not in the game.

Are you talking about 3-4-3 evolution in Chelsea or football World in general cos you said Moses changed football.

BascoVanVeli:
Oh yea brain fart, I think I was so angry that Moses didn't make the team that I forgot Mane was even on there, but wow guy u could have just told me he was instead of posting the thing like this wins u the argument. Being on the PFA is not water in a desert guys should have to prove themselves on the continent, I rate Victor Moses as the best performer in the continent. I don't see how somebody can win the biggest league trophy on earth and then come back and destroy the defending champions and still not get shortlisted. If those guys are so good how come between them they had no trophies last season.

There is need for our players to learn from KANU Nwankwo or else they would continue to fail to win APOTY.

Pls check Kanu' s career as a player and analyse how he was so highly rated,if care is not taking you get confused cos his record with Super eagles wasn't impressive and even his club sides can be debated but the guy was always on the news cos he always seized the opportunity the moment he find himself in any big match and do wonder that cannot be erased in the world of football

KANU won his first Africa best due to his magical performance against Brazil in Atlanta and won his second African best due to his great hat trick against Chelsea though he had some other outstanding matches but the Chelsea one was a great feat that cannot be ignored.

There is need for our players to tell the outside world that they are not Nigeria player alone but World rated player,pls check out Aubemayang rating,this is world respected striker and Sallah is going that way too.

Remember being the best is not enough to win it,Okocha failed to win it and average Victor Ikpeba won it with his exploit with Monaco despite not even a regular with super eagles.Emma Amuneke won it too but only Yekini won it due to his super eagles performance.

I don't think CAF is biased with strong presence of Amaju as executive member but Nigeria players just need to repackage themselves as a world beater cos consistency matter a lot.Mind you if not for Toure Mikel would have won it in 2013 cos we had only him and Toure that year,remember Enyeama too

Truly very saddened not to see Victor Moses in the last shortlisted three best players,not a good development for our football.

Icon79:
So Gary Cahill made the EPL team of the year? While Virgil van Djik didn't make it? And neither did Sergio Aguero, or Alexis Sanchez. While Harry Kane and Lukaku were included? And Dele Alli made it ahead of Kevin DeBryune??

Tells you everything you need to know.


O pari

My man that's the EPL team of the year list so no debate.

I can only make case for Aguero but not forgetting that Lukaku had a great season with average Everton.Last season was awesome for Dele Ali and better than DeBryune.Nobody would picked Alex Sanchez over Harry Kane.Cahil was all there doing it for Chelsea.

On Vic Moses he had a better player in that position in Kyle Walker who had a great season with Tottenham that made Pep to splash cash on him.

I just don't know why people like Deji Adeyanju always want things to end up with APC vs PDP or tribal war cos this is purely business transaction between Innoson and GTB and i know it will be settled amicably.

elyte89:
D part u said a particular goalkeeper A will concede certain goals while B won't..its a FALLACY statement


I don't knw where u re getting dis ur impression from,football is not 1+1=2,no...even d great goalkeepers goofs and concede silly goals,dt our Grandma would av saved easily..we av so many countless examples to back it up.


U don't analyse football dt way..it's absurd..u re saying as if some goals are designated to b conceded by some keepers,maybe due to deir height?wyle some keepers wont concede such. Any keeper can concede any goal at any moment on d pitch of play.


Abeg if we re making analyses,try to b pragmatic, we re not kg2 kids ,dt will accept all analysis.

My guy better to accept some analysis and move on or else you end up with endless arguments.

blueto:
this is a needless and inadvertent comment. I did not compare the proficiency of both goalkeepers which you are just needlessly trying to counter. If I say Mr A does not have the same weakness as Mr B, does that mean that I'm saying that Mr A is better than Mr B? of course not! I only pointed to the fact Uzoho will not concede some of the goals that Enyeama would concede (and vice versa) because there are disparities in their weakness(es) and strength(s). You saying that I was comparing both of them to rate Uzoho better is just an indubitable misapprehension in your part.

My man i don't need to go further cos some monikers have quoted you on the same comment.

Jarus:
I just think we should be able to rise above sentiments in some things

Truly but naija blood strong o but have you read comments like how Awaziem rendered Neymar useless, Oyekwuru finished Alves,Moses the best RWB in the world,Moses changed football.Those comments simply mean we need to promote our own but sometimes we don't need it when we want to get true picture of things.

Humility017:
the coach don't have sense...
only a senseless man will be accusing a loanee who have even contributed more to his team success than the team owned players.....
everytime the dude is singled out for criticism....nasty coach....

what's the boy offense that he can't call him privately to talk to.....rather than open his mouth in tin air...and speak trash.

I think it's time for Oyekwuru to have tete discussion with his coach on his preferred position cos the man always criticising him anytime he played as CF not as a winger.

Yes the coach was a little bit nasty may be that was his style,remember Mourinho does it too by criticising his players openly.

Oyekwuru should not be let down but continue working hard to improve on his shortcomings and i don't think the coach hate him cos we have quite number of Nigerians who have played under the same coach.

Jarus:
Mane and Aubameyang made the list of FIFA Top 30 in 2017 and some Nigerians are still expecting Moses, who didn't even make EPL 11, to make Africa's Top 3 ahead of them.

Agreed but Moses na our own,so expect such comments.

BascoVanVeli:
3 man shortlist was the least he deserved. Salah could score 100 goals and still never get his hands on the epl title. Moses changed football.

Moses changed football?

Jarus:
Only a Nigerian will rank Moses ahead of Salah in 2017.

A Salah that got Egypt to AFCON final.

A Salah that got Egypt WC qualification after many years.

A Salah with fantastic performance in Roma, which he has continued in Liverpool.

Nigerians are funny.

No we are not funny but always sentimental.I want Moses to win APOTY but just too glaring he cannot cos we have Sallah in a maverick form,Aubemeyang and Mane are there also doing their things.

tbaba1234:
I blame previous coaches for our goalkeeping issue.

When we were carrying Agbim up and down, We could have been grooming a viable replacement for Enyeama and Ejide. Now where is Agbim??

Honestly you are right on our coaches who are too sentimental in their decision making.

Pls is Dele Aiyenugba not a Nigerian for God sake cos sometimes it baffled me that despite goalkeeping crisis we have a keeper doing it in Isreali league that has the likes of Nwakaeme and Ogu in the national team.

If Enyeama is saying No,let's gives Aiyenugba another chance cos i know Ejide is clubless for now.If am in Alloy shoe i will put Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi, Alampasu Ajiboye,Maduka,Aiyenugba in case Enyeama declined into frame,give them fair treatment and get the best.

Osucoward:
Apart from fleets of cars, what has Dino achieved in Kogi State?

Answer that question and stop talking petulantly.

I don't know why we don't get basic point and what has fleets of cars got to do with the award.

The question is do you have any better senator than Melaye in Kogi state.

xreal:
It might be true.

His predecessor only developed and invested heavily in Kwara.

Yes he will invest in Kwara cos Kwara played a prominent role in the rise of Smart Adeyemi right from NTA Ilorin to state NUJ President to national NUJ President and straight to senate.He is more a kwaran than kogite.

Icon4s:
My brother, na the thing way we dey see hear o.

This is a thread where a player that is not tested is often concluded to be the best.

Rubbishing Vincent Enyeama, Nigeria's all time best goalie for an untested Uzoho that has not played any competitive game.

It is hard to believe people who call themselves sports analysts here can be writing all these with so much confidence.

My man nobody's fault but Alloy Agu who failed to search for credible keeper cos with credible one nobody will be comparing what is not comparable(Enyeama and Uzoho)very laughable comment.

blueto:
If Uzoho was in the post against Argentina in the last world cup edition, I don't think Messi would have fared well against him like he performed against Enyeama. If you watch Messi's first goal in that game, he played the ball up to the roof of the net, why? because he knew fully well that Enyeama's short height wouldn't allow him to do well against up balls, and before Messi played the ball, Enyeama was looking to dive along the ground where he thrives, but Messi did not play to his expectations and strength.

Another player who understood and worked with this Enyeama's weakness was Diego Forlan of Uruguay. I remember how he scored the winning gaol against Enyeama in the Confederations cup. He played the same way Messi played his, by playing it straight to the roof of the net, and that might been how Messi discovered that the short Enyeama can't cope very well with such kind of shots.

Messi's second goal can also be attributed to same weakness. The short Enyeama couldn't see the freekick on time due to his shortness and it caused him a late reaction.

Yes, he may have made some great savings, but those goals he conceded wouldn't have been conceded by a tall Uzoho in goal. And it will unwise to start Enyeama against Argentina again (if he returns) with same Messi and other players who may have taken note of his weaknesses from that previous match.

Oh baba No o,stop this,honestly it's absurd comparing the two, pls on what basis,height abi,OK, hope you know Emma Okala,if height does it alone Best Ogedegbe will not benched Okala and retired him.Hope you know Patrick Okala,if it's height Peter Rufai will not benched him at Afcon 1984,hope you know Austin Ejide,if it's height Enyeama would not have confined Ejide to a bench during his time as Eagles number one choice except afcon 2008 when Vogts preferred Ejide and it was glaring he made a mistake.

If it's height Uzoho will not be a third keeper at U17 WC.Truly Uzoho is tall but you forget a lot of factors determined a good keeper not just being tall and if that is the case why Uzoho demoted back to division three after two laliga matches.

Pls why are you using 2014 WC against Argentina to nail Enyeama why not 2010 WC against Messi and did you know nobody blame any keeper against Messi and Ronaldo but here you are ridicule a keeper with over 100 caps and three WC appearance, pls check Enyeama clean sheets record at Lille for God sake and you are here talking about height,you forget one of the greatest Iker Casillas.

Mind you i don't want Enyeama back but i will never rubbish him to promote untested,inexperience third division keeper, a league full of youth players that is not rated than NPFL.

I'm one of the people that came here after watching Uzoho against Girona that the guy should be given chance may be he can be the answer to our goalkeeping crisis.

Do you want to hear the fact and i know a lot would not agreed with me base on our belief that foreign based are always the best,Uzoho is not better than Dele Ajiboye and i can put my money down on it.I have watched the two closely and i can tell you is not better than him talk less of great Enyeama.A fit Enyeama in eagles camp,pls forget it,Uzoho w thank God training with the GREAT.

safarigirl:
how can you recommend a 19-year old for first choice? You think senior World Cup is U-20?

Add to that, he is not even playing in a top league, I mean, really, do you know the kind of shitty strikers he's up against? Can you compare them to the likes of Messi, Aguero, Modric or Rakitic?

Please, let's focus on begging Enyeama to come back, we shouldn't lose hope because we cannot field an inexperienced baby goalie for something as important as the World Cup

My major problem is not his age but keeping in division three cos it would not add to his experience as a WC bound keeper.I want him in the main team cos it was two la liga matches that paved way for Uzoho not division three appearances,so all those clean sheets in division three doesn't matter to me,better for him not to have clean sheets in LA liga and be getting the experience.

Chrismario:
Clubless?
The last I read about him was last season when he was demoted to reserve team.

According to magnik he is not clubless still with Teja but need to sort things out with the club,likely playing for the reserve just like Ahmed Musa ia doing at Leicester.

Magink:
According to the recent interview I listened to on Lagos talks, Ideye said he declined invitation from the coach cos he wasn't playing and he felt it wasn't fair on other players to be invited when he's actually not playing.
Said the coach assured him that when he gets a club or when he starts playing for his Chinese club he will be recalled.

Thanks for this comment cos it put an end to our arguments.

Chrismario:
It's how it is. Mikel Arteta comes to mind

I gbadun your analysis cos a lot w keep on saying invitation is based only on merit.

tbaba1234:
Ideye is not even playing games... you can invite a clubless player to the team.

I'm not holding brief for his invitation.On his clubless i don't know cos i remember he moved to China this season.

Chrismario:
My Comment is based on their consistent inclusion in Rohr's list. Sorry to say that it's more of coach's preference than merit.

That's my point 'PREFERENCE'cos if we want to base it on form i don't think they deserves it,meaning if Ideye is in good list of Rohr's preference players he would definitely make the team irrespective of his form or what do you think