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Every thing about this man is just a fraud, from fake miracles to defrauding deluded members and now to money laundering. This mamon god he worships must really be using him well.

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Bunch of thoroughly brainwashed deluded muguns! Oyaks is truely a curse to his generation. Small your members would be going about begging for money to eat after having been stupidly scammed off their meagre earnings + money embezzeled at their places of work by that notorious con man A.K.A Oyaks.

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In that case I can asure you that there is nothing special about RCCG's 'holy ghost' congress and whatever is happening there would not be validated by God's presence as they claim in redeemed. It's just a religious activity that is not necessarily ordained or approved by God.

"Zone two carried the day" meaning zone 2 contributed the most money into oyaks coffers this year. Employers of CE members especially those in zone 2 had better take note, their members are notorious for stealing their employers money for the sole purpose of giving to oyaks. Zone 2 must have the highest number of mugs in CE.

So how did "meat" mentioned in malachi become cold hard cash collected in RCCG as tithes ? Does that not amount to fraudulent manipulation of scriptures to scam members of 10% of their income?

Next item on the scamming agenda of Oyaks is offer 7, i hope you deluded muguns would also be eager to share your offer 7 experince with us after you have been thoroughly fleeced of your last kobo you would have a miserable christmas only to be herald into january again when you have to pay you whole month's salary as first fruit to Oyaks. Horrible days surely lie ahead for the mugs at CEC on the contrary Oyaks would be smiling to the bank and plottingmore ways of taking you fro everytning you've got.

@hslbroker
So why does RCCG collect physical cash then if all they will give out is 'spritual'. Even Jesus fed the multitudes free of charge when they came for his crusade.

And what is RCCG going to entertain us with if we heed their invitation? Would we be served food/ refreshments? I mean as guests they ought to entertain us. I hope they are not going to ask us to contribute money to them again as we would be guest there and they are the ones who shd spend money on their guests.

@sweetmum
How much did it cost you to qualify to attend?

And what has all these back and forth rants got to do with remixing amala

Your message can't be from christ as christ doesn't require tithes of christians in the first instance.

@newmi
I am not the initiator of this thread, Jesoul iniated it I am just contributing since she has indicated she wouldn't be around all weekend.

@joagbaje
My request still stands.

@Alethia
I get your point, but knowing pastor moneybags and his mentor, I know what they are driving at. The book of the law being referred to in joshua contained several laws no longer applicable today. It is pastor joe and his oga that need to put things in proper perspective.

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If oga joe needs cash, I might just give him a raise for his transport back to the creeks of yenogoa, but you never know I might in the process of discussing with him win his soul over to Christ. I believe he still stands a good chance of repenting, he just needs to be schooled in what the gospel is truly about and to allow the holy spirit [Not Mamon] to fill him up and lead him aright.

@nuclearboy
No mind me ojare, I am just keeping our dear pastor busy until madam comes back. She indicated that she would be off for the weekend so I thought I should thrash out some issues with my favourite NL pastor.

@joagbaje
I would also like to interview you preferably in person as I guess you are in Lagos now for the IPPC charade why don't we hook up before you leave town and thrash out 'issues' one on one, bible in hand [no rapshodies please] and let's see who is really in error amongst us.

Unfortunately for you pastor chris and his worshippers, 'the law' being referred to in 1 Joshua has been brought to an end and has no sound basis in christianity. It is no use trying to manipulate it to fit into the prosperity gospel as pastor chris himself is not observing those laws.

@Azibalua
We are already in the endtimes, the master has already called and his sheep who know his voice are responding!

@image
Whilst I agree you have a point, I still submit that these crusades are vastly over rated and they add little value to the body of christ. It may increase number of worshippers in the church but are they truly saved? Are they truly doing the will of God? It is a known fact that Nigeria being the most religious country on earth is still one of the most corrupt and least developed. We have millions of worshippers in these churches yet there lives don't reflect that of christ, what value are they adding with the millions they attract to these crusades? Are there not more better, effective and suttle ways of winning genuine souls who will do the will of christ? Why don't these mega churches have any positive visible effect on society?

@Azibaula
I am not 'jocking' I am dead serious!

@joagbaje
Churches need to be held accountable and put to the test of scrutiny. 1 thess 5:21

@Image
All these RCCG regular jamborees and other church annual events don't glorify God in any way and don't add value to the christian life. They are just social events using the church as a platform. I am yet to see any value added in all these church festivals. We see a lot of top politicians visting there every year yet these same politicians are occultist and they are busy looting us dry. Gbenga Daniel is a regular face at RCCG camp yet we know of all the evil attrocities he is commiting in his state. If RCCG can't impact on him to be a better leader thereby affecting millions positively why are they deceiving us a creating the impression that there is something special going on in there camp?

Just as I thought, you won't be able to defend the mamon worship which is a key doctrine in your cult.

Asr 1 : you are born of christ when you have christ in you. You would fill his spirit in you and have a burning desire to do his will.

Ansr 2: jesus is the master and how he communicates with his flock is no business of yours, if you desire to follow him then repent of your ways and ask him to come into your life, then he might start communicating with you.

Ansr 3 : I would repost verse 30 of the scripture you quoted
30 Let the wheat and the weeds grow together until harvest. Then I will tell the harvest workers to pull up the weeds first and tie them up in bundles and burn them and to gather the wheat and put them in my barn.

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My milk teeth pastor obviously you don't realize that harvest time is already here and Jesus has called his harvest workers like myself to start removing the weeds from the church. As I have always told you, you understanding of scripture is very shallow, you may have knowledge of scripture but understanding is another matter. In that scripture you have been flaunting, did Jesus say he would come and remove the weeds himself? Is it not does of us who serve him that he said he would send? Well the master as called those of us his sheep who know his voice have answered and we are currently removing the weeds from his church as he called us to do, if you are not happy about it, go and complain to the master who sent us, that is if you know how to communicate with him.

Another name change, but one thing is consistent about the company : wretched services!

@joagbaje
I am born of christ and filled with his spirit, I refuse to use the term 'born again' because it has been abused by people like you who have no clue what it really means to be born again. Jesus accused several 'brethen' in his time and caused havoc in the temple. So if you label me accuser of the brethen, I am only being christlike thanx for the compliments. As I said I would continue to do the work of the master who sent me and fight the wolves in sheep clothing ravaging the church which am sure pharisees like yourself would be unhappy about. Is that not why your predecessors plotted the judicial murder of Jesus?

@joagbaje
Would you be kind enough to answer the questions posted above? Or are you too ashamed of the practises to answer questions bothering on them?

@joagbaje
For the record, TB Joshua is NOT my hero, I just commend him for the fruits of humility, love and charity he displays and I rate him far higher than most new age pastors even though I don't subscribe to his church or even know him. At least he is doing something to help the the people christ directed us to help which is a lot more than we can say for your oyaks. The man has also been accused of all sorts of occultic practises and I have never for once defended him. I am not called to defend preachers, churches or doctrines.I am not into pastor worship like yourself which is idolatory. It is still unfortunate that you fail to realize even given the glaring example of Rev King that false preachers abound in the church today and they destroying lives and they must be stopped. You fail to realize that it is those of us that are called of christ that are mandated to point out these false preachers expose and stop them. Jesus is not going to come from heaven to stop these charlatans but he is going to use his servants like me to fight them and expose them so they would stop preying on his flock. Only an agent of the devil would feel comfortable with this evil being done in churches today. I sincerely pray that God would give you the grace to discern the truth and fight against the enemy that is currently ravaging the church starting with CEC.

@joagbaje
Rev King has been tried and found guilty of the charges against him with evidence of a church member he burnt alive so this is not a case of press propaganda. The man is definitely of the devil yet as pastor you can't even discern who a true servant of God is, this speaks volumes of the level of your 'calling'. It is also a pity in your response, you did not show any concern for the thousands of souls the demon Rev King is destroying, you were more interested in defending your professional colleague and blaming the press for his predicament.
I have some scriptures for you from the book of jeremiah which I am currently studying

Jeremiah 5:31: prophets speak nothing but lies; priests rule as the prophet command and my people offer no objections. But what will they do when it all comes to an end?

The scripture above makes it clear that God expects us to object when religious leaders deal with us dishonestly and not just resort to 'praying' for them.

Jeremiah 6:13-14 Everyone great and small tries to make money dishonestly; even prophets and priest cheat people. 14 They act as if my people's wounds were only scratches. All is well, they say when all is not well.

The above is another rebuke for religious leaders by God which is still very relevant today. There are tonnes of rebuke for dishonest religious leaders in the bible in the bible why are you so bent on defending evil in what ever guise? Jesus himself lead the onslaught against religious leaders in his time and this was partly the reason he was killed. Are you not making Jesus death in vain if you continue to defend what he fought against and died fighting?

@HSLBroker
And what value with this congress add to our lives? I mean RCCG has been holding these congresses, convention and camp meetings for several years without adding value to even the members lives [spiritual or otherwise] even though some members make baseless claims. The only effect of these RCCG activities we see is the nuisance they create along the express and RCCG getting richer. What real value is it adding to society?[Not baseless claims please] and what do I stand to benefit as a christian if I attend your jamboree?

@MzDarkskin
Brilliant submission, absolutely spot on. I agree with you 110%.

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I forgot to ask about offer7, how much is the target for your parish this year as you know December 7 is round the corner. I hope the amnesty programme in the Niger Delta has not affected the seeds, offerings, tithes and partnership funds the militants in your area were contrbuting to Oyaks coffers cos that could mean demotion for the pastor not meeting targets.

@joagbaje
Have you been able to confirm how much partnership 'seeds' was needed to qualify for this years IPPC?

@Jesoul
I crave your indulgence in allowing to contribute one question to the interview.

@ Joagbaje
Given your position not to critisize any man of God wether he is false or called, how do you suggest we handle preachers like the infamous and notorious convicted criminal Rev King who not only use to physically assault his members, was confirmed to be sleeping with member's wives openly and even proceeded to murder a member of the church in broad day light. As members of the body of christ should we just ignore him cause it is "his" church? And as the pastor he has dominion over his flock. Should we just keep quiet and watch him destroy lives and later lead them to hell just becos he claims to be "annointed" even when it is obvious that he like several other pastors don't display the fruits Jesus said we should use to recognize false prophets. As a christian if we see brethen being led on the expressway to hell are we supposed to keep quiet so as not to disrupt a pastor's ministry?