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@tonye-t
What is the benefit of the several warnings of false prophets we have in the bible if we can't use it to discern glaringly obvious fakes like oyakhilome? Do you want God to come down and declare him one b4 you know? The bible already contains several pointers and I would continue to do my own little role of showing people the truth from scriptures and help the few who are willing to listen retrace their steps from this road of damnation these criminals are leading them to.

It is just another unbiblical terminology invented by a "christian" sect who think they can shout and bribe their way into heaven.

@tudor
It is not a useless vision, the man is merely trying to grow his business and out do his competitor who wants a branch of his own conglomerate every five minutes walk all over the commercial world.

@image123
I only wis you and other deluded pentecostals know what it truely means to be born again and live a glorious christlike life free from deception and hypocrisy which as now become the hall mark of most pentecostal churhes. You may not know but you guys are doing more harm to christianity than even atheist who have no clue.

Mmmmh, people would always perish from lack of knowledge, I wonder why anyone would want to be living under a curse when grace is available.
@bobby
And is tithing one of the financil laws? Cause as far as the bible is concerned tithes should from agricultural produce and not money some crooks have twisted it to mean.

@tonye-t
I can't possible be jealous of criminals who twist God's words to make money, I actually feel sorry for them as such people are worse than armed robbers and have the hotest place in hell reserved for them. As for being stingy, I constantly preach giving to the poor as christ did unlike your greedy pastors, that surely is not the attribute of a stingy person.

@bobby
If you read it and understood it then you would know that tithing is antichristian.

@bobby
Everything I "teach" on this forum is always backed with sound biblical and untwisted scriptures, as such my teachings are 100% scritural and biblical accurate unlike tithes doctrine which was arrived at after severely panel beating the scriptures.
@chukwudi
Thanx, the truth is already out, those crooks would soon be out of business.

@bobby
Go and read the passage and stop blabbing, I would have posted it here and highted the relevant verses but I am not with my laptop I am using my phone to post this. Special emphasis on verse 5,12 &18 when you read it.

@myjoe
Thanx for the conytribution, much appreciated.

@bobby
On the contrary they abolished tithing read hebrews7:5-19.on the issue of law, the ceremonil laws[which includes tithes] is what was done away with. The moral ones have been written in out hearts which includes adultery you mentioned.

Why do churches that are supposed to be exemplary and of high moral standards find it convinient to twist scriptures and mis-represent facts when it comes to the issue of money.

@uglyguy
It is your demon possed pastor that is the chief representative of the devil.

@gbenga
And what is your crooked pastor doing apart from exploiting the vulnerability of Nigerians and lining his pocket. I still maintain the money used to print those filthy rapsodies would have done more good to society if it was just stacked and burnt rather than using it to print heretic and poisonous pamphlets that is calculated at enslaving the readers mind.

@ttalks
Thanx for exposing the Joker. Imagine creating a new I.D to promote falsehood
@fyne[ugly]guy
You are more than welcome to take me on and I can assure you that you would only end up embarassing yourself and your criminally motivated shallow minded pastor who constantly feeds you with sewage.

It actually takes more faith[extreme delusion] to believe that there is no creator than to believe there is one. What I mean is that one must be virtually insane to believe the universe with all it's complexities and diversities just happened by chance.

@tonye-t
Stop trying to be smart I am quite certain you no we are not under the jewish law and the fact that some crooked preachers borrow favourable parts from it just becos it is in the bible does not make it right. Jesus christ was clearly speaking according to the law which is not relevant to us. Your example of the church at corinth is not only mis-leading but totally irrelevant and dishonest cos christians are christians be it in Nigeria or Malaysia. I am still wondering why you pro-thiters choose to ignore the clear directives annulling tithing in hebrews 7:12&18
@gentleme
Do you have problems with reading biblical truths

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=307798.msg4640778#msg4640778 date=1254319889]Should that be an issue, "JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS ABUSED DOESNT MEAN ITS BAD IN ITSELF" the pastors and fake MOGs who do so (twisting scriptures) have a case to answer before God, you just go ahead and do what Christ instructs us to in Matt.23:23 ok? God bless you[/quote]christ wasn't instructing christians in matthew 23:23 he was addressing pharisees who were under the law as we are not under the law it is no business of ours. Also not that the tithes in that passage was herbs, mint and cummin and not money from income as our mordern day crooks have twisted it to mean.

May God be with you in your endeavour to truely serve him rather than men who claim to be his representatives.

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=307798.msg4634940#msg4634940 date=1254242901]so whatelse are we still arguing about, words dont lie [/quote]What we are arguing about is that most pastors preach tithing based on the mosaic law as compulsary which is contrary to the teachings and gospel of christianity. That aside the type of tithes being preached today has no biblical basis as it is derived from twisted scriptures. it is also selfishly applyed as the widows, orphans and the poor don't get a kobo from the collections. The abrahamic/Jacob's tithes which you also trying to force into the equation also as no relevance as those examples did not carry any stipulations to be used as doctrines and they are not relevant to christianity. Infact they were voluntary offerings contrary to the manipulative spirit behind the tithes doctrine.

fyneguy:
Can somebody please ask Prophet Kunle ( ) to mention one True prophet/Pastor he knows, apart from him ( )

That is the problem with you pseudo christians, you are always looking for something or someone to idolize. The truth is that the true teachers are out there but you would never hear their names becos they don't make noise. As per true prophets they don't exist anymore. God's final message to mankind was through his son jesus christ. Anybody that claims to be a prophet after he departed or today is defintely a fake. I know your pastor calls himself a teacher and not prophet, but it is obvious he has all the qualities of a false prophet, i don't need any divine inspiration to know that as it is written all over his face an is in his every utterance. You just have to look and you would see what i am talking about. i sincerely pray you are delivered from this bondage b4 it is too late.

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@kunleOshob
Don't be ridiculous. Even atheists like mazaje and tudor should be able to list the 'fruits' you refer to. Come away from the letter into the spirit. I'm sure if I'd mentioned your preconceived discovery of helping the poor, I'll have scored an 'A' with you.
I think the more important question for you to ask is 'Am I really born again?', not what does it mean to be born again? Your attitude to others on this forum and against preachers (false or real) says you might not be born again. Try self examination, mr judge

It is funny you are calling me mr judge whilst you are also hypocritcally judging me. one thing ius certain though, i am genuinely fighting for the faith and exposing the false teachings in christianity for the good of all. i also try to show people from scriptures what true christianity ought to be. The most beautiful thing about this is that i am doing it based on conviction unlike your preachers who doing it in other to collect tithes, offerings and other gifts from you claimiing they are collecting it for God.

PS: Why would any preacher who claims to be doing God's work twist his word [aka tithes] for the sake of filthy lucre? can such a person truely claim to fear and serve God?

Olaadegbu, why are you sooo full of crap why must you always quote scriptures out of context? Na real wa for your oh.

Who is serving the devil? Is it me fighting for the faith or your criminally inspired pastor who is exploiting the faith to con "believers" and line his pockets with filthy lucre.

@otokx
In principle they both the same.FRAUDS!!! And many of them abound today actively working to destroy the christian faith. The reality is that they are actually doing more damage to the faith than unbelievers.

I am of the opinion that true christianity is hardly being practised today. However if I am to comment I believe true christianity is divine and beyond human comprehension whilst islam is a man made creation plagiarized from the bible hence the carnal, masculine and oppressive nature of the religion.

@dgreatrock
Why is it that they only stand for him when it comes to collecting money? Why don't they ever stand for him when it comes to helping the poor as Jesus christ directed.

@fyneguy
It is your mentally deranged and crooked pastor that is a mad man. Other wise any sane man would know that it is not that filthy rapshodies of unrealities that Nigerians need as gift. Anyway I would make sure I collect as many copies as possible to be used as alternative to toilet paper.

@dgraetrock
It is not only impossible to give to God it is unscritural. You can only give to support a ministry or cause. You pastors just enjoy using God's name to fleece money from your ignorant flock.

Visa to where?? Sounds like a dodgy 419 scam to me.

I think you shd first go back to school and learn how to write proper english.

@babaearly
Nice thread! Very interesting and thought provoking. You would be amazed at how much damage mistranslation has done to the the teaching of christianity. I believe every believer who seeks true knowledge ought to study the scriptures with a good concordance to get true knowledge and understanding.