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ifyalways:
lets start in bits,what is Sharia?

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ifyalways:
Lagosboy,I would be so happy if u can support Islams stand on begging with quotes from the Quoran. Every other thing is understood.

Hope u had a nice Jumah.

Thanks Ifya i had a wonderful jumah last friday and the sermon was on the importance of good manners in islam and how good manners strenghtens the brotherhood in islam.

Now to your questions on begging. Islam frowns at begging like i said and here is a verse of quran which deals with charity and then explains who the charity is for.

In surah 2 from verse 263 talks about charity but the verse important here is verse 273.

" (Charity is) for Fuqarâ (the poor), who in Allâh's Cause are restricted (from travel), and cannot move about in the land (for trade or work). The one who knows them not, thinks that they are rich because of their modesty. You may know them by their mark, they do not beg of people at all. And whatever you spend in good, surely Allâh knows it well.
Those who spend their wealth (in Allâh's Cause) by night and day, in secret and in public, they shall have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve

Islam encourages man to work and here are various verses of the quran to support this.

Q67 v 15
He it is, Who has made the earth subservient to you (i.e. easy for you to walk, to live and to do agriculture on it, etc.), so walk in the path thereof and eat of His provision, and to Him will be the Resurrection.

Here Allah is saying he has given man the means of doing some work and then eat of its provision.

Q62 v 10
Then when the (Jumu'ah) Salât (prayer) is finished, you may disperse through the land, and seek the Bounty of Allâh (by working, etc.), and remember Allâh much, that you may be successful

Here Allah wants us to leave our various work and go for the jumah prayers , immediately after the jumah he his commanding us to go back to their work and not stay back.

Having said all these there are some genuinly poor people who might have to beg due to their circumstances and even the quran talked of this in surah Balad.
Q90 vs 14 -16
And what will make you know the path that is steep?  (It is) Freeing a neck (slave, etc.)
Or giving food in a day of hunger (famine),  To an orphan near of kin. Or to a Miskîn (poor) cleaving to dust (out of misery)

Here Allah is talking of an absolutely poor person which it is encouraged to give alms to. Charity is an important aspect of islam and Zakah is the social security system of islam. Inshallah as our conversation goes further i will explain the principle of zakah and how it established a social security 1350 years ago of which no society till today has been able to achieve.

The begging in Nigeria is a social problem which our political leaders have failed to tackle it is not an islamic problem in the least but the alamjiris just happen to be muslim which is unfortunate.

@ifya

I am so sorry i havent answered your questin i have been so busy and i dont like to answer in a rush thats why i take my to time write ur response. I just dashed in to NL now and saw usisky comments i beg to disagree with him and inshallah i will write tommorrow morning if you read this before me otherwise you might read my answers inshallah.

Very good answer and response from Sis Zayhal may Allah reward you and increase you in wisdom and understanding.

ifyalways:
Lagos-boy,enchante.
I must confess,i have never seen any muslim doing Dawah b4
This question is sensitive and quite limited to 9ja Muslims as i have not witnessed it any other place,who or what is Almajiri?is it accepted in Islam or

Its a shame about that and quite unfortunate because it is laxity amongst the muslims. I dont know where u live but in many wester countries the dawah is quite active and there are thousnds of white and black reverts in the west, amongst the former ministers and pastors. In mosques in london there is hardly any week without people accepting islam in droves. I am aware of other parts of the UK with this phenomenom. In the US it is the same thing thousands reverting every year, the dawah is active in the west but unfortunately in African countries it is inactive.

Other people in the house could please shed more light on this.

Almajiri phenomenom is a nothern Nigeria thing and a terrible unfortunate cultural phenomonom. It has no basis in islam as such and it is simply poverty and lack of political will on the part of the govt to tackle the issue. Learning of quran and religious learning is a wonderful thing children should be encouraged to engage in at a young age but their upkeep and feeding should be taken care of.

Almajjiri menace is a Political and social problem and not an islamic problem.

Begging is frowned at in islam and in some arab countries beggars are arrested, Islam commands charity and Zakah is is a pillar of islam but islam doesnt encourage profeffessional begging especially when you are abled and not disabled.

And God knows best

ifyalways:
Who is an Iman?Are they paid?can a woam be an Iman or teacher/leader in the Mosque?
Must a married/single woman use a veil?Infact,what does the Quoran say on the use of veil for women?
I must confess,i have never seen any muslim doing Dawah b4
This question is sensitive and quite limited to 9ja Muslims as i have not witnessed it any other place,who or what is Almajiri?is it accepted in Islam or

An imam is a person who leads the prayer in the mosque, he has other social responsibilities in the community as well. He his what you will call your pastor in a church.

Yes here in the west, most mosques pay the imams and they have other benefis. In Nigeria some mosques do and some dont , obviously the economic situation in the country plays a factor in this. In the arab worlds imams are paid as well, the difference between imams and other religous leaders is often times they dont own the mosque but are appointed by the community to lead their affairs.

A woman could lead other women in prayer but cannot lead men in prayer so she cannot be the imam in a mosque.

A woman could be a teacher and she has no limits regarding this she could reach the pinnaccle of islamic education and can have male students as well as female. There are many women scholars in the history of islam and Aisha RA the wife of th prophet PBUH was a fantastic scholar of islam and among her male students were the teachers of the foremost jurists in islam like Abu hanifa, Imam Jafar, Imam Malik.

The veil is not compulsory in islam on a married woman nor a single woman. The quran did not make the veil compulsory on any woman but only the wives of the prophet PBUH to differentiate them from other women as they are regarded as mothers of the believers.

Holy spirit in islam like i said is Angel Jibreel. He was sent to the prophets and we do not accept any "minister of God" has a link to him. Inspiration from God is different from revelelation and God does not need the leader of the angels to inspire men. The concept of holy spirit is different to the holy spirit in todays christianity which in turn is different to the holy spirit Jesus PBUH talked about. I have been avoiding all along to go into a comparative analysis of some concepts of the two faiths which i dont mind doing but I will suggest will leave it till later. Let me give you the islamic perspective of things and then we go into a comparative study.

Hey i am here sorry just been busy 

Oya i wil start to answer.

Muslims dont accept the christmas 25th was Jesus PBUH birthday and in fact muslims dont celebarate the birthdays of ealier prophets and to make it more clear the celebration of Prophets Muhammed PBUH birthday is a hot topic in islam and many muslims dont even celebrate it.

Historians tell us it was nearly three centuries after the death of Christ before a day was set aside for a special observance for His birth. "Christmas was for the first time celebrated in Rome in 354, in Constantinople in 379, and in Antioch in 388." (Commentary on the Gospel of Luke, Norval Geldenhuys, p. 102). A well known preacher during this time mentioned the late origin of Christmas. "Chrysostom, in a Christmas sermon, A.D. 386, says, 'It is not ten years since this day was clearly known to us, '" (Unger Bible Dictionary, p. 196). "Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church, and before the fifth century there was no general consensus of opinion as to when it should come in the calendar, whether January 6th, March 25th, or December 25th." (Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 5, p. 641).

dominique:
it happend in Unilag Mosque a couple of years ago. for the brief five minutes that the Solat was going on, the guy was able to "obtain" almost a dozen pairs of timbs, palms and stuffs like that.
for a long time, guys diddnt wear fancy footwear to the Mosque

_{its about time the mods to move it to Islam section}

Quite a shame , I used to be at unilag years back and I dont think such thing ever happened then.

I did vote for becomerich as well. Honestly i admire the guys tenacity and steadfastness in his beliefs and aspirations amidst battering and negativity from all angles of nairaland, he remains unruflled and only carries on his crusade.

Jakumo with his brilliant writing style infused with humour is a cool guy as well.

ifyalways:
Holy Spirit . . .who is he to the Muslims?
  Hope  your jumai prayers went well 

It went well thanks    You and yours could pay a visit to a mousque and see how the jumah is performed one day.

Holy spirit mmm . . . . This actually depends on the context it is used and i will explain what i mean. Holy spirit is mainly refered to as the Angel Gabriel which we call Angel Jubril whom was the messenger Allah sent to all his messengers and prophets including Jesus PBUH.

Allah talked about the holy spirit in about a few verses in the quran and about three relating to jesus PBUH and i will quote them below. The arabic word for this is Ruh al qudus ( Spirit of Holiness) which means Jubril PBUH.

The first verse is
Q19 vs 17
{We sent to her [Mary] Our ruuh [angel Gabriel], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. … [The angel] said: “I am only a messenger from your Lord, [to announce] to you the gift of a righteous son.

Note the RUUH which means Gabriel PBUH

Q2 v 253
And to Jesus the son of Mary, We gave clear proofs and evidences, and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Gabriel]
Then Q5 vs110
[Remember] when Allah will say [on the Day of Resurrection], “O Jesus son of Mary! Remember My favor to you and to your mother when I supported you with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Gabriel] so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity, and when I taught you writing, al-hikmah (the power of understanding), the Tawrah (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).”

Then  Q2 v 87
And indeed, We gave Moses the Book and followed him with a succession of messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Gabriel]

Above are about 4 verses relating to the holy spirit and Jesus.

There are other verses realting to the Ruh which are :
Q26 vs 193
"And truly, this (the Qur'ân) is a revelation from the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists),
Which the trustworthy Rûh [Jibrael (Gabriel)] has brought down"

Q70 v 4
The angels and the Rûh [Jibrael (Gabriel)] ascend to Him in a Day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years,


Finally i want to say we cannot fully understand the concept and subject of spirit as it is a difficult topic and even Allah says in the quran "yasal lunaka an Al Ruh , quli ruhu min amri rabbi wa maa uwtitum minal ilmi ila qalil"
"They ask you concrning the spirit (Soul) say the spirit (soul) is one of the things of which knowledge is only with my lord. And of knowledge you have been given a little"

I hope I have been able to give you a brief intro into the subject of holy spirit in islam.

And God knows best

ifyalways:
Lagosboy,thanks.
Do muslims ever go out to preach,teach,hold crusades or seminars or any form of seeking converts?

Oh yeah!!! We call it dawah (propagation of the faith). It is a mandotory for all muslims to spread the word of Allah. Islam was spread through arabia in the time of the Prophet PBUH especially after the "treaty of hudaibiyah". The companions were able to start to spread the beautiful message of Islam which was for everyone to submit to the One true God without associating partners with him and accepting and believing in all the prophets PBUT without making distinctions.

It is the same propgation the spread islam to africa , to the depth of China, to the inner caucuses of central asia and Russia, to the south east of asia and as far as comoros island.

In contemporary times the dawah is still on but muslims dont practise aggressive preaching like going out early in the morning , on the bus like it is done in some parts of Nigeria. Our call to prayer is also one of the way to send the messgae of islam out.

What i am doing now is also a form of Dawah

ifyalways:
Lagosboy,thanks.
Are there ordinaces in Islam eg Baptism,confirmation,Eucharist  etc?
  Hope  your jumai prayers went well 

Muslims dont have ordinance in such a manner but we have something similar which is for reverts(converts) to islam. When a person accepts to be a muslim he or she recites the testimony of faith " I bear withness that there is no deity except Allah and Muhammed is his servant and messenger" . That is the testimony that makes one a muslim, then it is encouraged to have a bath which is just washing your body with water hereby purifying yourself into the new faith of islam.

ifyalways:
Lagosboy,thanks.
Do married muslims wear wedding rings?

Yes married muslims were rings. It is encouraged especialy for the women to wear as well but for the men it is not compulsory but men do wear and as far as i know there is no issue with it. The location of the ring is a different matter some wear the rings on the fourth finger of the right hand while some wear it on the same finger on the left.

ok let me start

The statement in the article suggesting that monogmay is the rule and polygamy an exception has no baisis in the text and in fact the verse is an evidence against this notion

In the sacred texts and from an arabic perspective  whatever is said first carries a heavier weight than the latter part of a sentence. The verse says "Fan'ankihu mutaama minal nissai mathna , wa thulatha wa arba fa in khiftum . . . . . ." In the quran there are many verses like this where Allah gives a command and puts some exception, wherever there is a clause it means the verse is not one of Eejab (compluslory) rather highly recomended. This verse is no exception and from a language perspective the emphasis is is on polygamy rather than monogamy. The clause highlights that polygamy is not wajeeb ( complusory) likewise monogamay.

You will never see anyone with deep knowledge of arabic saying what the article implies , it is only muslims who just read english translations and turn themselves into scholars who give verdicts. It is a crime against God to speak in his name without knowledge of the matter and a crime against islamic intellectualism to give a verdict like this

This rather indicates that in Islam monogamy is the rule and polygyny the exception

The second verse is not Q4 vs 12 rather it is Q4 vs 129. It says " wa LAN tasteti'u an t'adilu baina nissai walaw harastum . . . . ." "You will never be able to do perfect justice between the wives even if it is your ardent desire so do not incline too much to one so as to leave the other hanging. And if you do justice and do all that is right and fear Allah by keeping away from all that is wrong then Allah is oft forgiving most merciful"

Firstly lets quickly analyse the arabic text the first key word is LAN. In arabic LAM and LAN means negation but why is LAM not used in this verse rather LAN was used . It is because LAN is an everlasting negation, eternal negation which means something can never happen till eternity. Allah is called AL Adl (The Just one) no human can share in this attribute with Allah no matter how the human tries to do it, the use of LAN in this verse indicates this and Allah goes further to explain what he means by advising the man no to incline too much to one leaving the other hanging. Then he advises the man to do justice (within human realm) and then his mistakes will be forgiven for him as long as he fears Allah in his dealings with the wives. The justice that cannot be done is perfect ustice and Allah did not because of this forbid polygamy rather he encoureged it and advised the man onwhat is right to do.

It is a shame the article did not post the whole verse and stopped halfway which in my opinion is malicious as the real meaning of the verse is in the whole verse and not half.

Polygamy is cool if practised within the realms of islamic guidance. It goes awful if practised according to the african or whatever culture it is.

And God knows best.

olabowale:
My Sheikh, I understand and I agree with you, 100%. You are better u=in this religion than me. You statement is right on point, going deeper than what I provided. May Allah reward you abundantly. And others. Amin.

Haba egbon astaghfurullah!!! how can i be better please it is VERY far from it o. Jazakallah for all you efforts on this forum amidst pressures, May God continue to give you the tenacity to strive on.

ifyalways:
@Lagosboy,is this statement totally true?or its a typo?Thanks,i wud get one if and when i need one.
Are there sects/divisions in Islam?For instance,we have catholics,Anglicans,Baptist etc with Xtians.

@Ifyaalways
Yes we have sects in islam and we have demoniations which are just like groups. The 2 MAJOR sects we have ins islam are the Shia and Sunni. The origin of the difference was largely a political  or should a i say socio political diference with a little bit of tribal undetone which unofrtunately degenrated into some religious differences. However the 2 sects beleive in the same five pillars of islam and the seven artilces of faith which makes one a muslim. We use the same quran with no different version or anything like that.

The prophet PBUH said anyone who believes and practices the five pillars of islam without anything more or less is guaranteed paradise. I personaly take an opinion or satnce which is we should unite on what we agree upon and leave our differences to sort itself out. 90% of the muslim world are Sunnis and shia was an ofshoot from the orthodox islam.

The other sects in islam are minor sects and some are not even muslims but just use the name of islam. This is the simplest way i could put it across.

What will your next query be if your satisfied with this.

I am a sunni and will inshallah be forever.

My dear mr Shiite dont let us turn nairaland into sunni vs shiite arguement. This division has been since 1350 years or so , our debates here will not solve it neither will it do us much good.

Let us come together on what we agree upon and this is :

Eeman
Salah
Ramadhan fasting
Zakat
Hajj

We also believe in the 7 artcilces of faith:

Belief in Allah
Belief in the prophets
Belief in the books
Belief in the resurrection
Belief in the day of judgement
Belief in the qadar
Belief in the Angels

We believe in the same quran. Our differences lie in some aqeeda issue and socio political issues. I beg my beloved brothers in this forum to let us use our energy to enlighten ourselves , defend the course of islam and not try to debate sunni vs shia here as we would achieve nothing really in my humble opinion.

My humble take on this is , when a believer kills a believer and no one knows about it , he has a moral and religious duty to inform the family of the deceased because it is an obligation for him to pay the blood money. The covering of sins by Allah should not be broadcasted by the sinner but this doesnt apply in the case of sin that has to do with the right of another person. When a muslim sins he can beg for forgiveness if the sin has to do with himself however if his sin is to another person like embezling someones money and so on, after asking for forgivenes from Allah he has to fulfil the rights of the victim. That is the justice of Islam and the admittance to the family is not broadcasting either rather it is admitting of guilt relating to manslaughter.

Egbon Olabs I hope you understand my point.

ifyalways:
@Lagosboy,is this statement totally true?or its a typo?Thanks,i wud get one if and when i need one.
Are there sects/divisions in Islam?For instance,we have catholics,Anglicans,Baptist etc with Xtians.

Yes I beleive it is a typo, he can definately seek Gods forgiveness and admit to the family and pay the neccessary compensation.

Inshallah after jumah i will write on the sects issue.

babapupa:
You're of course free to provide documented facts to back up your claims. Till then, it's nothing but rumor,

When Felele speaks about Lekki lands and Tinubu , I am sure he knows what he his talking about. If Felele is the person I anticipate he his then he knows much abt lekki lands and ibeju lekki. Felele is a big player in that side of Lagos especially Ibeju Lekki.

Although Felele might wonder who is this but chill out bro nothing to worry. Amen!!! ( i am sure will understand this) Your analysis is spot on !!!

Paying of taxes is your civil duty and there is no blame on you for whatever the govt does with it as it is beyond your control. Sponsoring of people to jerusalem personally i see no issues with it. Jerusalem is a holy land so whoever wants to visit let him.

The ameniies the govt provide is a lot more than this 2 issues you narrowed it down to. In islam we look at issues in proper perspective .

The child has no sin , as he did not choose his method of comming to the world but Allah chose that method for him. Anyone that condems such child is ignorant of the faith as he has forgotten the sahabas werent muslims initially and some were born out of wedlock as well.

I personally think Tinubu is a smarter than OBJ in terms of politics. Someone said he his intelligent and i will say yes in fact very brainy and street wise.

ifyalways:
Thanks Lagosboy and Tamiz.I wud be back with more questions morrow.
Lagosboy,pls are there English Koran? _{this might sound silly}

Inshallah tommorrow no worries at all.

Yes therre are English quran available and we have about 6 different authors that translated the quran.

Where are you based I could post one to you or you could buy it online or an islamic shop.

ifyalways:
Rapture,Hell,Heaven,New earth,casting of demons/devil ie deliverance
what are the significances of going to Mecca?Must a Muslim go to Mecca?

Casting of demon exists in islam and it is called Ruk'iya there is a thread here on NL which is quite extensive on the subject i will dig it out inshallah.

Going to mecca - Hajj is of great significance to muslims and it is partof the 5 pillars of islam which are :

Tawheed - Belief in ONE God
Salah - Worship prayer
Fasting in Ramdhan
Zakah - Compuslory pyament of 2.5% of your wealth to the poor
Hajj

The last two are with tho conditions of having the means and not poor.

Hajj is a symbolic rperesentation of worship of What Abaraham,Hajar and his son Ishmael PBUH went through when they were commanded by God to go to Makkah. The rituals of hajj are largely symbolic following of the actions of these noble people and the hearkneing of the Dua (prayer) of Abraham in the quran .

When Ibrahim PBUH completed the structure of the Kabah, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) commanded him to call the people to Hajj. Ibrahim PBUH pleaded, "O Allah! How shall my voice reach all of those people?" Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) told him that his duty was only to give the call and it was up to Allah to make it reach the people.

Ibrahim PBUH then climbed Mount Arafat and called out in his loudest voice, "O People! Verily Allah has prescribed upon you Hajj, so perform Hajj."

Allah (Subhanahu wa ta'ala) revealed in the Qur'an: "And proclaim the Hajj among mankind. They will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways" (Surat Al-Hajj, Ayat 28).

To this very day millions upon millions of Muslims continue to answer the call of Prophet Ibrahim (Alaihis salaam).

It is the only gathering in the world with 3 million people in one location every year , all in the same clothing of modest white. No rich no poor no king no president as they are all the same before the Most High

ifyalways:
and like the christains,No one knows the exact time when the world wud end?

Yes no one knows and even the prophet PBUH did not know but was only given the major and minor signs.

ifyalways:
So as u cant get slaves now,what happens if a beliver kills a fellow beliver mistakenly?how then wud he appease?
Please do be patient with me.  

No worries patience is part of our faith and one of Allahs names is As Sabur - The patient.

If you read the verse i quoted Allah in his infinite wisdom knows not every believer will have slaves and not every will have the money so he gave an alternative - Fasting for two consecuitive months to atone for this mansalughter. Indeed he his a merciful God.

ifyalways:
Lagosboy,quick one,What do u mean by slaves?
who is a slave?can a slave be bought?how and where?
About the inter-marriage,Do u think its workable for a muslim male to marry and live with a Christian lady in same roof,both praticing their religions?

A slave  is somone owned by another person. Islams message was to systemically abolish slavery and that was why one of good deeds in islam is to free a slave. Slavery is almost extinct in the world of islam today apart from i think Mauritana  which is due to their backwardness.

Intermarriage is a hot topic, practically i must confess it is difficult especially if they are both practising. one calling on one God and the other saying no it is three in one. The children will be the most difficult ones to manage in this regard. I would advise a muslim man to marry a muslim lady and save himself lots of trouble. Many scholars in islam have reccommended this as well and added lots of conditions to marry a christian lady like chastity, location within an islamic state and so on.

And God knows best

Trinity - With all due respect to the christians in the house means nothing to the muslims, in fact it defies logic and 1+1+1 can never equal 1.

We believe in one God , the God of Abaraham,Noah,Moses, Jesus and Muhammad Peace on them all. The very first creed in islam is to say "I bear withness that there is no other deity axcept God and Muhammad is his messenger" and to believe in Jesus and other prophets as the messenger of God as well. We do not associate any partners to God and beleieve in the unity of God.

The concept of the end time in islam is quite expansive but let just breifly say we balieve in the end of the owrld at an appointed time of God. The earth will be destroyed and evry soul will be raised again to live and gathered together on the day of ressurection for judgement. The successfull ones will be in paradise (Jannah) and the failiures will be in Hell. Paradise is in the heavens , it exists already and not on earth likewise hell fire.

ifyalways:
LagosBoy,U are wonderful.
What does the Trinity mean to Muslims?
Do muslims believe in Rapture,New earth,Heaven and Hell?
Latsly,what does the names Habibah _sp and Abdul Razak mean?

Habibah - means the loving or the loved one for a female. For a man it will be Habib and it is derived from the word Hubb which means love.

Abdul Razaq - means servant of the Sustainer/Provider/Nourisher. Allah's name is Ar Razaq which means The Sustainer .

They are wonderful names.

aspen2x:
BRF was Tinubus chief of staff for well over the tenure of Tinubu, that shld tell us BRF and Tinubu are not just mere God father and son but the bond is much more than any anticipated over this discussion on this forum. If any of us was in Lagos during Tinubus regime we will know the success Fashola is enjoying is as a result of the work progressing from Tinubus tenure which he is well a part off. All be it BRF has surpassed expectations and we can only pray he continues at this rate,
BRF is the new face of Lagos and I doubt if Tinubu and the AC will be foolish enough to severe their ties with him, He is about the only thing that functions in AC and its in his name they campaign and are going to campaign come 2011. However I am not ruling out a crack or some dis-agreements in their relationships but these things do happen and I believe whatever it is will be resolved between those 2 like the elder states men they r, There is no where since the inception of BRF that he wnt serve for eight years that we should all know unless a credible opposition votes him out which i seriously doubt.
Tinubu and Gbenga Daniels seems to be enemies now and will stop at nothing to get to each other, so a little bad news from either side will always be blown out of proportion,
While Tinubu might not be a saint he was at least smart enough to spot the potential in BRF and he did a good job of nuturing him,
eko oni baje,

Its true talk but i will still consider Tinubu as Fasholas god father as Tinubu brought him into govt in his first term and made him chief of staff after Lai mohammed went to contest for gov in Kwara. Fasola knows Tinubi in out and likewise Tinubu knows him. The matter is here is more than just disagreement it has to do with Tinubus relevance in Politics. Fashola getting a second term would make him too powerful for Tinubu to be relevant in Lagos politics. This is exactly the same scenrio in 2002 when the AD elders refused to support Tinubu and worked against him, it was his eventual win the catapulted him to being the leader he his now. Tinubu knows if Fashola wins without his support and backing then that will spell his political obituary.

Fear is a weapon that is used not just in the SW but the whole of Nigeria. If not for fear how could yaradua emerge as the PDP candidate. Just after 2 months of OBJ's exit Ahmadu Ali began to say lots of thrash he could not say during OBJ's tenure and trying to dissociate himself from some PDP policies. It was the same fear that made Odili pull out of the primaries.

To me although Fashola has been impressive in Nigerian standards ( I feel he is only doing 30% of what he his expected to do), he his only reaping the fruits of riding on the back of a god father to power. Fashola himself cannot deny he never won the AC primaries , he can never deny Tinubu scuttled the AC primaries in his favour. He owes everything to Tinubu and either he dances to Tinubus tune or he musters enough power and courage fight his benefactor maybe the Ngige way.

This i think is one of the lessons we have to learn, any sincere person with the strong will and character to govern in Nigeria should do so with his own political platform. It is damn difficult but it is worth a try if you dont all your good works could be rubbished in one day. I wouldnt be surpriosed if some scandals start to hit the news about Fashola since i know he his not 100% clean himself.

Unless these rogues are all exterminated to the abyss of extinction ,Nigeria will never move foward as the these imbecciles will continue to fight for their selfish interest with all they can.

bombsquad:
WHAT ARE AREGBESOLA AND TINUBU DOING AT STATE EXCO MEETINGS THAT ARE STRICTLY FOR SERVING GOVERNORS AND COMMISSIONERS AND ADVISERS??ARE U SURE your FACTS ARE RIGHT? PLS BE CAREFUL WHAT U SAY

The Commissioner of works position is Aregbesola's even f he doesnt have the full time it is specially reserved for him.