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IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 10:14pm On Dec 08, 2009
ifyalways:
What happens or is it permissible for a muslim man to have a non-beliver as wife?If yes why and If no,give me reasons.
Who is Jesus to muslims?
what does this PBUH that comes before the prophets name stand for?
Salam.
A muslim man is not allowed to marry unbeleievers in general but he his allowed to marry from the people of the book - Jews and christians.

This is because non muslims like hindus,Budhist and so on are non believers in all the prophets of God. The jews believe in all the prophets of God and believed in God except Jesus PBUH. The Christians believe in all prophets apart from Muhammad PBUH. the muslsims believe in all of them and make no distiction btw them all. So, in priniciple a muslim man is allowed to marry a christian woman.

However both of them have to consider the practicality,children and their environment. I am not a marital expert i can only say what islam says about it.

Who is Jesus to muslims?
Jesus PBUH is the great prophet of God , a messenger among messengers , the prophet whose messgae Muhammad PBUH came to fulfil. Jesus is among 5 greatest messengers of God i suppose i mentioned earlier. Jesus PBUH perfomed many miracles by the permission of God. He spoke as a baby in the cradle to defend his mother Mary PBUH when she was accused of an illegitimate child. He made birds from paper and gave it life by the permission of God , He did lots of wonders and he corrected lots of jewish rituals devoid of the spirit of the ritual. We as muslims belive in him , believe in his miracles in his message and in his prophethood. However we do not accept him as being the begotten son of God as God cannot beget anything far above that is He. We do not deify Jesus PBUH by calling him God or one in a three. According to islam Jesus is comming back to the world and he will kill the anti christ and lead the muslims and he will eventually die a normal death as he did not die before his ascension to heavens.

Ifya this question about Jesus is indeed very wide and i fear people might fly into this thread and derail it. I will suggest we leave this question till the last question.

what does this PBUH that comes before the prophets name stand for
PBUH simply means Peace Be Unto Him, we say it after every prophets name as a sign of respect and our love for the sacrifices they all endured in calling the people to the path of God. Belief in all the prophet is one of the articles that completes the faith of a muslim.

And God knows best.

Next query if the answer satisfies your question.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 8:09pm On Dec 08, 2009
ifyalways:
Lagosboy,U never know what your replies mean to Me . . .thanks a milliom and keep them coming.
Now about The killing stuff and blood money,what u are saying is that The murdered fellas family can accept to be paid in lieu for their dead brother?
Does it mean u guys dont believe in the popular saying "Vengeance/Revenge is of the lords'?
No worries ifya inshallah i will keep answering to the best of the ability i am given by the All knowing.

Yes i mean the family could either sue for revenge killing or accept blood money which is forgiveness. Below are the verses that talk about this in the quran.

"O you who believe! Al-Qisâs (the Law of Equality in punishment) is prescribed for you in case of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But if the killer is forgiven by the brother (or the relatives, etc.) of the killed against blood money, then adhering to it with fairness and payment of the blood money, to the heir should be made in fairness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord. So after this whoever transgresses the limits (i.e. kills the killer after taking the blood money), he shall have a painful torment.

And there is (a saving of) life for you in Al-Qisâs (the Law of Equality in punishment), O men of understanding, that you may become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious)"  Q2 vs 178-179

In another chapter Q4 vs 92 God talked about killing by mistake and the punishement for this is either simple forgiveness or also accepting blood money

"It is not for a believer to kill a believer except (that it be) by mistake, and whosoever kills a believer by mistake, (it is ordained that) he must set free a believing slave and a compensation (blood money, i.e Diya) be given to the deceased's family, unless they remit it. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you and he was a believer; the freeing of a believing slave (is prescribed), and if he belonged to a people with whom you have a treaty of mutual alliance, compensation (blood money - Diya) must be paid to his family, and a believing slave must be freed. And whoso finds this (the penance of freeing a slave) beyond his means, he must fast for two consecutive months in order to seek repentance from Allâh. And Allâh is Ever All­Knowing, All­Wise. "

"And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein, and the Wrath and the Curse of Allâh are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him" vs 93

In another chapter and i believe these are all the verses relating to this matter.

This verse also talks about either forgiving or accepting blood money for manslaughter and not murder

Q17 v 33
"And do not kill anyone which Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [(to demand Qisâs, Law of Equality in punishment or to forgive, or to take Diya (blood money)]. But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer only). Verily, he is helped (by the Islâmic law)[].

Does it mean u guys dont believe in the popular saying "Vengeance/Revenge is of the lords'?
Ifya we do believe in the concept in fact one of the 99 names of Allah is Al Munteqim -  which means The Avenger. However if you notice the end of the verses i quote one said  . . . . And there is[b] (a saving of)[/b] life for you in Al-Qisâs (the Law of Equality in punishment), O men of understanding
Another ended with And Allâh is Ever All­Knowing, All­Wise.

Sometimes we as human think in a way and God here is telling us he knows better. These punishments serves as a deterrent for intentional murder and it also prevents the killing of a person whose crime is manslaughter and not murder. These are wise rulings that set limits to the excess of humans.

Talking about revenge is for God, if a thief comes into the house and kills both parents , despoils sisters  or even despoil the mother before killing if you had the means would you not kill this murderer? We cannot be holier than our Lord neither can we be wiser than him. Capital punishment is a deterrent for murder and the capital punishment is not carried out by the victim but by the state after a judicial process and the judge decides its a murder case.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 4:14pm On Dec 08, 2009
@ifya

I assume your queries have increased some understanding?
IslamRe: Is Shafi & Witri Compulsory? by Lagosboy: 1:14pm On Dec 08, 2009
In islam and the rules of fiqh classification we have:

Wajib - compulsory
Mandub/Sunnah - Recommended
Halal- Permissible
Haram - Prohibited
Mubah - Doesnt fall under any of the above e.g to drink water or to drink juice etc

For salah we only have the 5 compulsory salah. Witr and 2 rakats before fajr are salah which we will term sunnah mu'aqada (The acts the prophet never left) some people translate this to mean complusory sunnah but that isnt right it means the sunnah he never left. Those nafl salah are not compulsory but highly recommended.

The prophet PBUH said in an hadith qudsi that a slave of Allah will continue to perform nafl acts till he his loved by Allah and becomes his friend . . . . . .
PoliticsRe: The Big Fight: Tinubu’s Men Set To Battle Fashola by Lagosboy: 9:49pm On Dec 07, 2009
Welcome to the murky politics of Nigeria. One thing i know for sure is riding the back of a god father to an execuitive position has serious bottlenecks. I doubt if Fashola can win the ticket on AC platform, the worst scenerio is for him to contest on another platform maybe striking a deal with the DPA might be his way out.

However , I have the feeling the days of relevance of Tinubu in lagos poilitics are drawing to a close. 30 years ago it was mobolaji johnson, Femi Okunu then Lateef jakande who held poitical influence. In the last 20 years there had been no clear leader , then the opportunistic Abraham Adesanya smuggled Tinubu who lost the primaries into the flag bearer of AD. I remember it was the same Olu Falae who brokered a deal at his house in VI btw the gentleman of good memory Funsho Williams and Tinubu. $ years after Tinubu swept his god father aside and took control of the political landscape of Lagos. The law of karma is abt to catch up with him that is why he his hell bent on not allowing anyone rule for two terms so as to not gain enough clout to push him into early retirement.

It is a battle the end is difficult to predict but i have a feeling Tinubu with his selfish interest might work with PDP and compromise in order to check mate Fashola. 2011 will be a war in my beloved state!!! It is only a matter of time till the shepard will come to lead his flock of lagosians to the promised land.
IslamRe: Sisters Discuss Issues And Questions Here Relating To Feminity And Islam. by Lagosboy(op): 7:26pm On Dec 07, 2009
zayhal:
Tanx, Lagosboy, your contribution is appreciated.

I had to ask the question because some groups who wear the black-black, blue-blue like u mentioned see those who don't dress as such as being of lesser eeman and I continue to wonde if this should be so. i wish i could get a statement from one of the well known scholars on this issue.
This is an unfortunate cancer that has befallen the ummah of muhammad. Yes dresing is important and the principles has to be followed but to rate the eeman of a person on the mode of dressing having fulfilled the basic requirements is unfortunate.

Muslims now pay attention to outer appearance and forget the inner soul. Some brothers now look down upon a bro with trousers below the ankle like he his destined for the fire and a bro without beard as of a lesser eeman. Sisters as well look at a hijab covered till the waist as weak and the hijab coverd to the ankle as a junior sahabiat. Knowledge is power and light , the more you know the more one realises how much he doesnt know.

mukina2:
na wa . . cheesy
My sister how na , wetin wa for this one now. grin grin I fir describe where them dey sell hijab for you o grin
IslamRe: Hausas Believe Salat Cleanses Sins! Are They Right? by Lagosboy: 7:15pm On Dec 07, 2009
Salah doesnt clean sins on its own not at all. Salah is a wajib act which every muslim has to do. Salah should help in warding of a man from sins" ,  Inna salata tanha an al fahsha wa al munkar . .  . . ." Verily salah wards of lewd acts and evil actions" Q29. That is what the quran says and not cleansing.

We should note that there is a difference between forgiveness and cleaning of sins or expiation. Asking for forgiveness enables forgiveness and expiation of sins comes in different ways. Small sins could be removed by wudhu according to the hadith of the prophet PBUH. While big sins could be cleansed though trials and tribulations some. The prophet said in a hadith that no harm afflicts a mulsim even as small like the pricking of the body by thorns but some sins are removed.

When Allah commanded us to pray in surah taha he said "Inna ni Ana Allaha La ilaha ila Ana, fa aqimi salata li dhikr" VErily I am Allah . there is no god besides ME , so establish salah for my remembrance". Note he did not say establish salah for forgiveness.

Having said this, muslims go extra mile during salah and when in sujud the ask for forgiveness and say " Subuhana rabil a'la faghfirili" and also make dua for forgiveness on the last sajda. This request for forgivenes is the seeking of forgiveness and not the basic salah requirements.

The subject of forgivenes is a very wide topic that cannot be elaborated simply on this forum.


Wallahu a'lam
IslamRe: Sisters Discuss Issues And Questions Here Relating To Feminity And Islam. by Lagosboy(op): 6:57pm On Dec 07, 2009
The mode of dressing was specified in the quran and ahadeeth however as far as i know the type of dressing is not specified anywhere in the texts. All we have is interpolations and explanations by different scholars some have gone to the extreme on both sides while some have remained balance.

The general principle regarding the mode of dressing of a woman is such as not to make her the centre of attraction when she walks , like wearing high heeled shoe that will make a hell of noise while she walks, in the process attracting everyone.


As to designs as far as i know designs on clothes are permitted within reason and also embroidery. Regarding bright colours some scholars have frowned on very bright clours like glowing pink that makes her distinct. There is no real evidence to suggest she has to wear black or blue or dull colours. A woman has to look good as well and muslim sisters need to know this, modesty doesnt mean she has to dress shabishly and put on blue blue all the time or green green.

We should note that eevry culture has its clothes type and design and the arabs had theirs. We dont have to follow the arabs in their clothing type or material. We are permitted to wear our cultural clothing within the principle of islam - Not tight, free flowing, non transparent, hijab and so on. Materials like lace and ankara as far as i know are permitted as they are  general cultural clothing types and normal. The ankara musnt be see through though.

Wallahu a'lam
IslamRe: Sisters Discuss Issues And Questions Here Relating To Feminity And Islam. by Lagosboy(op): 2:29am On Dec 07, 2009
Salat subuhi and salat fajr are the same thing.

Subuhi is probably the more correct name but the breaking of the dawn i think is fajr hence the names are used interchangably.

The issue of women praying behind mind i think i addressed here already. It is not a cultutral thing rather it is islamic.

Women in front of men as a man will the prayer and morally you dont want men to keep staring at the back sides of women during prayer. It is not side by side as we stand very close to each other during salah. We stand shoulder to shoulder and toe to toe. You dont want a dude rubbing another mans wife shoulder i bet.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 7:14pm On Dec 06, 2009
Omenuko:
@Anyone that can answer,

I am a catholic christian and find many of the things found in Islam (i.e., practices, traditions) different, when compared to my own faith. My question, why do muslims have to pray and bow towards the kaaba? What is the significance of the kaaba? When I went on wikipedia to read up on it, I found some of the things I was reading off putting. For example, before Muhammad dedicated the kaaba to the worship of his God (see below) it was used by the local populace for holding many icons of their tribal gods and religious images of christian figures (i.e., Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary):

Basically, why do muslims have to pray and bow towards the kaaba? Are muslims supposed to venerate the kaaba? Is it a holy site/building? And if so, why?
Firstly, wikipedia is not a full authentic source for any faith's doctrine.

The ka'aba is a house of God built/rebuilt by Abraham and Ishmael. The spread the word of God to the arabs in their time. However as centuries passed by the arabs mixed idol worship with their faith. They still beleived in God but they worshipped him trhough different idols which had their abode at the ka'abah.

The prophet of islam came to revitalise and fulfil the mission of earlier prophets, hence when islam was eventually established the muslims destroyed all the idols at the ka'aba purified it and returned it to its sanctitity purified of false worship. Initially the muslims prayed towards the quds in jerusalem which is another holy site for all the abarahmic faiths. However, God commanded the muslims to face the ka'aba and we have done so for 1400 plus years.

We do not worship the ka'aba neither do we bow to it. We only face the direction as commanded by God and recognising that it is his house on earth. We were told by the prophet that the ka'aba is directly beneath the bait ul mamur (another house of God in the heavens). There is a conncetion btw the two houses and the angels in heaven circumbulate the bait ul ma'mur 70,000 new angels everyday. ~This direct connection has being proven as nothing can directly fly over the ka'abah and i repeat NOTHING. The birds when they fly turn to the sides of the ka'aba to get across as they cannot cross it. Neither can a helicopter or plane fly across it. This is due to the direct linkage with the bait ul ma'mur in the heavens.

The jews also pray at the wall in jerusalem which is their holy site. holy sites is not a new thing within the abrahmic faiths.

I hope i have been able to answer your question.
IslamRe: Jarus & Olabowale: Why Is Islamic Teaching And Belief Not Uniform? by Lagosboy: 11:28pm On Dec 05, 2009
Abuzola 1:
@lagosboy- i must confess am truly disappointed in you.

If aloy-emaka is misunderstanding what school of taught is you should ve corrected him, did you bother to follow the link and read why i posted such word instead of justifying it with just a chunk ?

There was an arguement that ensued whether or not a man can suck his wife bosom and in response to that i said we have four school of taught, one tends to agree with it while the other disagree with it, they all have their proof from the hadith, so i said you can follow any of the school of taught, it depends on which one suit you.

Aloyemeka mistaken the school of taught to be outside the great imam, malik, hambali, Hanifa and co, he thought the school of taught could be any of the contemporary, instead of you to correct him you bounce into irrelevant conclusion.
@Abuzola apologies to you if you are offended. I must confess i did not follow the link but rather just read the quote.

I was only trying to elaborate on the point. However i disagree with the term of contradiction btw all the schools of thought.

Sincere apologies however
IslamRe: Jarus & Olabowale: Why Is Islamic Teaching And Belief Not Uniform? by Lagosboy: 9:48pm On Dec 04, 2009
I really dont know where to start explaining this issue.

@
we have different school of taught, the maliki, shafi'i, hambali, hanafi etc, almost of them contradict each other, but the beauty of Islam is you are left with a choice, either to pick the easier one or you take the one you prefer, no lélé, but if you transgress ah ! OYO lòwa. OYO (On Your Own)
Abuzola with all due respect missed the point on the schools of thought, it is not as he expressed it.

Islam only has established schools of thought in issues relating to fiqh - islamic jurispundence. The schools of thought dont contradict each other in all issues , on the contrry what is agreed upon is tremenduosly higher than the disagreement. We do not call their disagreement contradiction rather we use the term ikhtilaf - difference of opinion.

Imam malik was a student of Abuhanifa, Imam shafi was a student of Imam malik, Imam Hamabali was a student of imam  Shafi, Abu hanifa was also a student of Imam Jafar, Imam zaidi also studied under the same teacher as imam jafar.

The imams only had difference of opinion amongst themselves.

I dont know if i should go a bit deep but let me try to explain that in matters of belief and creed these imams agreed on them. All the majors aspect of islam they all agreed upon. What they disagree amongst themselves are mainly issues we term mandub(recommended acts of worship) which are not complulsory (Wajib) so they are not issues of great significnce that should cause disagreement.

I really dont want to go deep on this issue as fiqh is as vast as an ocean.

@Aloyemeka
All the prohibited issues in islam remain prohibited regardless of the school of thought.
All the obligatory acts of worship remains the same
the five pillars of islam remains the same
The seven articles of faith remains the same
The issues of difference are isues of real detail and application of islamic priniciples to their contemporary world.
IslamRe: Egypt Cleric 'to Ban Full Veils' by Lagosboy: 8:18pm On Dec 04, 2009
focused123:
Decency and purity comes from the mind and not by the way you dress. The mind is renewed with the word of God and not by wearing Hijab.

I wonder why most Muhammedan are so shallow and silly in their thinking. I agree with you If you say Hijab is an identity for a Muslima. In your Hadith, Aisha (Muhammed's wife) said the Hijab is a deception which the male Muhammedan used in treating the Muslima like a dog and domesticated animal.
With all due respect there is no such hadith as the commandments of hijab was from Allah directly in the Qur'an.

Followers of islam are called muslims and not mohammedans.

The use of hijab is not from shallow thought but obeying a commandment. It only becomes shallow thought when you say use of hijab is the peak of piety like some people assume which i tried to explain.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 7:39pm On Dec 04, 2009
Millions of apologies to you ifya i have not been ever present on NL lately. However i will keep up to date just for you till your curiosity is satisfied inshallah.

ifyalways:
Lagos boy,thanks a million.
Lagos boy,is there anywhere in the Koran where Killing is justified,for any reason?
why do ladies sit at the back of the mosque during prayers?
Salam.
Yes there are places in the quran where killing is justified.
1. A person who kills another person intentionally is to be killed as well. - Punishment of a murderer is the death penalty. However if the famliy of the deceased want blood money instead and do not press charges then so be it.
2. In a legitimate war there is bound to be killing and God encourages the enemy should be slain in war till they return to justice and if they sue for peace the muslims should not transgress and should make peace.
Below is the most quoted verse by non muslims to highlight islam's legitimising of killings. I have nothing to hide so let me post it below:

Q9 vs 5-6
"Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun  wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perfom salah and give charity then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

And if anyone of the Mushrikun (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allah (the Qur'an), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not"

The verse is in the context of war and a comand from God to the muslims to defend the newly established islamic state from the agression of the polytheists. Muslims are not hypoctrircal idealists who live in an imaginary world without wars. There will always be war till the day of judgement but the message of islam was to always repel evil and if force is neccessary then the use of force is permitted within the boundaries and limitations of islam. The repelling of injustice is to establish peace eventually and security of life and property of muslims, christians and jews living in the islamic state.


On the issue of women praying at the back in the mosque.
In the time of the prophet (PBUH) the men used to pray in front the children in the middle and the women at the back. Islam tries to establish a balance in life and frowns at excessive and uneccessary intermingling between men and women. The mosque is a place where worshippers should concentrate and focus on God and not the women looking at at the men during salah and vice versa. Imagine the women prayed in front and the men behind then some men when the women bow down will be looking at the women with the biggest bakassi and all sorts  wink Lets be real here humans will always be human and subject to desires of the heart. The mosuque is for worship and concentration is required. distractions on either side shouldnt be encouraged.

If you follow some of my posts here i am not type of muslim who take advantage of women and relegate them to the background. There are few muslims societies where extreme things are practicsed but it is not of islam  rather of their culture and almost every culture had taken advantage of women. Islam emancipated the arab women from so many evil things and till today women are liberated by islam except some few muslims whose cultures still dominate them.
See https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274394.0.html  for some of my discussions on women related issues.

ifyalways:
where is lagosboy? sad
Why do Muslims have to pray only in Arabic?
Muslims dont have to pray in arabic. In islam prayer is not simply what you term as prayer in chrisitianity. We have the 5 obligatory salah which has to be said in arabic but the prayer you mean (which we will call supplication) can be said in any language as God understands all languages. The salah is done in arabic to unify the mode of worship of muslims as the quran was revealed in arabic. A chinese muslims travels to Auchi town in Edo state and he will lead the prayer there perfectly and everyone wil understand what he says as they say it to despite them not understanding their individual language. After the salah , verious muslims supplicate to God and ask him for their needs in igbo, yoruba , spanish, fula and whatever language.

ifyalways:
LAGOS BOY,while he was alive did he perform any miracle?do Muslims believe in Miracles or signs and wonders?
The prophet of islam (PBUH) perfomed so many miracles in his life time but muslims dont emphasisie on miracles because all prophets of God perfomed a kind of miracle and sign. The companions did not wait fo those miracles before they accepted islam and that was the kind of faith the had. Some of the prophets miracle was the splitting of the moon into two when some disbeleivers asked him to do that to prove his genuinity. The prophet fed hundreds of people from a single pot of food, enabled hundreds of people drink milk form a single cup that was passed round by abu huraira without the milk finishing, He enabled a blind man see, healed the sick, enabled some poor people become super rich, the prophet predicted several thigns that amazed the companions and so many more . However, the greatest miracle of the prophet is the quran and that is what we like to emphasise . The qur'an is an outstanding miracle that will forever stand the test of time. The prophet PBUH was unlettered and illiterate which is a proof he couldnt have written the quran himself or copied it from somewhere. Is it the scientific miracles of the quran we want to talk about ? or its superantural mode of prose and poetic presentation that amazaed the super arabian poets, or its numerous messages. I might open another thread to englighten you about the scientific miracles of the quran .

Physical miracles like healing and so on we do not emphasise as the devil himslef can perform all this, even Jesus said in the bible false prophets will do greater works than he did and warned his followers to beware of them. The chiefs of pharouh in th e qur'an cast rods into snake as well but Allah showed his superiority by the Staff of Moses swallowing the other snake. Physical miracles are nothing in fact and only an amazament to the sub intelligent people. However the quran is an intellectual miracle to challenege the brightest of minds and intellectuals to its divine origin. Hence the various rhetorical questions in the quran " Afala yaqulun", "Afala yatadaburuna al quran", "Afala tufakiruno al qur'an" - Have you no intellect, Do you not punder on the qur'an , Do you not reflect and ruminate on the verses of the qur'an.
These kinds of verses usually end the verses of scientific revelation , charging muslims to use their brains but it was centuries later, science began to prove these miracles and will forver as new and new facts are being discovered.

Inshallah i hope to get the time to take you through these verses.
IslamRe: Egypt Cleric 'to Ban Full Veils' by Lagosboy: 12:11am On Dec 02, 2009
uplawal:
when you are obeying your creator and doing the right thing,is it not linked to piety,iman
On the surface yes. But in terms of the inner dimensions of faith no.

I dont want to go too deep but there is a difference between islam, eeman and there is a third called ihsan.

Hijab is a sign of islam , like i said the identity of a muslim woman but it doesnt translate to eeman.

What i am trying to say here is that , the fact that a man has a full beard doesnt neccessarily mean he his a pious man and the fact that a woman uses the hijab doesnt neccessarily mean she is a pious woman. The hijab is a very basic thing a woman has to do and a must on her, it is the current society that has made it seem like a super pious thing. The hijab is a step towrds piety if you know what i mean. I could discuss this in more detail privately if you want to know more as i dont want to confuse folks here.
IslamRe: Egypt Cleric 'to Ban Full Veils' by Lagosboy: 8:22pm On Dec 01, 2009
focused123:
You are a lost soul. You are on your way to hell fire.

I am challenging you for an open debate on this thread on the issue of veiling and we can quote the Quran and Hadith to support our claim.

Full veil (or half veil) does not depite decency because there are prostitutes who put on full veil even in Saudi Arabia. Veiling is just deception used by the male Muhammedan to treat muslima like a dog and a domesticated animal.

God have mercy !
The veil or hijaab is not a sign of piety neither is it a sign of holiness. Thw hijab is a muslims womans identity as commanded by Allah to preserve her beauty.

I agree some women might use it and commit various crimes , thats is possible as muslims are not angels and human beigns as well prone to sin. Some might use it to cover their own evil.

Your call for a debate is uneccessary as hijab is not a sign of eeman. A muslim woman must however wear it as it is the identity of a muslim woman and a commandment from the most high.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 10:33pm On Nov 30, 2009
Just to add to the person that says islam is a way of life that is true. In fact it is a complete way of life as a result of surrendering ones self to the will of his/her creator and sustainer. The meaning of islam is not a way of life rather the way of life is a consequene of submission.

And God knows best
IslamRe: Where Should Muslims On The West Coast Of Usa Face When Praying? by Lagosboy: 10:31pm On Nov 30, 2009
I now understand your question and from a fiqh perspective. If if this is the case like you say (as i dont knw) either direction to the ka'abah is sufficient. Allah also states in the quran he is the lord of the east and west and whichever direction one faces (if one is not sure) it is permissible.

N.B You need not been sarcastic i aint doing no propaganda i was simply stating the fact
IslamRe: Where Should Muslims On The West Coast Of Usa Face When Praying? by Lagosboy: 10:10pm On Nov 30, 2009
Anywhere you are in the world you could use a compass to help you indicate the direction of the ka'abah. Technology has resolved the problem and it was the early muslims that develped the tool called a compass to solve this problem.
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by Lagosboy: 7:56pm On Nov 30, 2009
@Ifyalways

I logged on specifically cos I sense some genuinity in your question and i have been away from NL for sometime. May God always guide you and direct your heart towards his light always.

Now What is is islam - In simple terms,  Islam is the total submission of ones self to the will of the one true God. An unconditional surrender and it is "aslama" in arabic meaning surrendered. It is generated from the root word Sa la ma which is also the root word for peace. Islam doesnt literally mean peace as some people claim but it means through surredering ones self to his lord , thereby being at peace with his creator which will translate to peace with the people as well. "The fear of God is the begining of wisdom" as they say.

Who is Muhammad (PBUH)  - Muhammad is not a god  neither is he a demi god rather he his a prophet and a mesenger of God to the mankind. He is the last messenger of God to mankind. In islam there is a difference betwen a porphet and a messenger. A mesenger is a prophet that was sent with a specific message (i.e book). All messengers are prophets but not all prophets are messengers. There were prophets and messengers before muhammad PBUH and the five greatest of such messangers are Noah, Abraham,Moses, Jesus and mohammed (May the peace and blessings of God be on them all). In islam we consider all of these noble men to be muslims and followers of islam as defined above. We believe in them all and do not distiguish in their mesage as they came to complement each others work and muhammad was just the seal on prophethood.

Your next questions on his death and so on.
He lived for 63 years and he died due to illness. A jewish woman poisioned him years earlier when he and some his companions were invited to dinner. The woman wanted to test if he was a prophet or not by poisoning their food. The other companions died following the meal but nothing happened to the prophet of islam which was a miracle from God and he passed the test. It was years after on his death bed he said he felt like the poision of the years before was now affecting him and this was Allahs way of elevating him to highest ranks of the matrys as he always wished for.

Yes he did forsee his death and that was the reason why he gave the wonderful and everlasting farewell speech in his first and last hajj after the rulings of hajj was revealed. 

He never resurrected and no human ever and will ever ressurrect until the day of ressurrection. He did predict lots of signs to preceed the day of ressurrection some of which have already come to pass and the major signs are yet to happen. He his in his exalted position in the heveans where Allah has put him in. The other prophets are in various exalted positions as well.

Pls this is just th esimplest and concise way i could explain this to you. Plase do not hesistate to ask further questions to water your curiosity.
IslamRe: Schoolgirl, 14, Goes Missing After 'converting' To Islam by Lagosboy: 11:57am On Oct 30, 2009
Inshallah she should be safe and would come out i guess soon. Good the police noted it is all on her free will she reverted to islam which in fact means willing submission to God.
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 1:27am On Oct 29, 2009
naijaking1:
Sanusi's background as an "Islamic scholar" is the only putative reason for not only his falsely puritan approach to banking reformation in Nigeria, but the main reason why he can't even wait for the accussed CEOs to be tried and convicted before taking them to the shooting range to be executed.
My guy please lets talk like intellectuals and with fact and not just typing what our hallucination or imagination induces in our mind. If it is islamic scholarship that encouraged him to reform the banks then that islam must be wonderful and in fact any ideology or philosophy that encourages such must be marvelous. Likewise any ideology that frowns at cleaning up corruption in the banking sector must have it promoters taken to yaba left for proper diagnosis.!!!
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 12:11am On Oct 28, 2009
naijaking1:
A bank worth 5-6 trillion naira, Sanusi claims he injected 100 billion naira, less than 10% of the bank's value, now you tell me the "injector" or creditor now ownes the bank? Why don't you just go commit highway robbery.

I will no longer elevate you people's salacious allegations of wrong doing/corruption/crime as stated by Sanusi with a response, since you don't believe in waiting to convict an alleged criminal before executing them. I[b] certainly don't belong to that primitive islamic modus operandi. [/b]
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Gentleman pls respect yourself and dont say things u dont know especially blanket statements against a faith. You might disagree with sanusi and i respect your opinion but to call his statement "primitive islamic modus operandi" is a grave inuslt to the religion of islam which is not sanusis but of 1.75 billion people. No where in islamic law does it say a criminal should be punished without conviction in a court. Sanusi statement could be termed woteva but pls dont drag islam into it. Why is it when a muslim talks he his judged by his faith, when soludo was in power did anyone remmember him or analyse his statments from a catholic microscopic view? Please be matured enough to articulate your difference without emotional religious bias and falshood against a faith.
IslamRe: Sisters Discuss Issues And Questions Here Relating To Feminity And Islam. by Lagosboy(op): 1:11pm On Oct 27, 2009
The big laugh is uneccessary we are just highlighting some misconception about women in islam vis a vis the gulf culture.
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 12:07am On Oct 27, 2009
mbulela:
i will only entertain all these arguments the moment anyone can prove to me that the CEOs were not guilty of all the crimes that Sanusi accuses them of.
until then, these arguments are baseless.
i share Sanusi's sentiments;these guys and women deserve to be hung on a stake and shot.
even Sanusi knows that our compromised judiciary will end up given these crooks a slap on the wrist.
i have said it before, Sanusi is fighting a lost cause but if he succeeds in putting the fear of God in the hearts o those crooks, all the better.
Same feelings here it is the judiciary i feel will put spanner in the crushing wheels of sanusi. I hear Akingbola had a court action in his favour today. The same judiciary that gave Bode george 2 yrs might give this rogues 6 months in prison while madoff in the states got life jail for fraud. If this ceos are convicted of fraud and deception as well they should b sentenced to life behind bars angry Bastards they are!!
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 6:05pm On Oct 26, 2009
cardoso1:
Sanusi has done well so far.but he should not be the judge.we can see him playing out the Islamic banking script/no way
Could you please explainwhat you mean by this.

Are you aware that Soludo granted the license for islamic bank, paid subscirption for nigeria to join the islamic financial corporation already. So what is the fuss about islamic banking of which if you understand u might use it like the western nations rush to malaysia to issue islamic bonds.
PoliticsRe: Bode George Is Sentenced To 2 Years! Not Enough! by Lagosboy: 5:58pm On Oct 26, 2009
2 yrs for 85 billion naira. This sentence will only make sense if all his damn assts home and abroad are frozen. Otherwise others wouldnt mind going to jail for 1 yr (parole) and come out to enjoy their loot.This kind of thinking will make convictiona mere occupational hazard in the occupation of looting public money.
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 4:54pm On Oct 26, 2009
rabzy:
I think a lot of Nigerians and Nairalanders are sufferring from a form of stockholm syndrome.

When Tafa Balogun was arrested, people were screaming he was manhandled, he should not have been hand-cuffed etc, do you know how many millions of Nigerians are manhandled and summarily shot everyday by the police, how many people were manhandled so that Tafa can amass his wealth. Nobody screamed rule of law and all those trash for the poor masses, the rich could not be rough handled because they have the power to shield themselves, now when they are getting a little bit of such treatment for blatant robbery, the poor nairalanders, my colleagues at work, and people who cant even buy papers at the newspaper stands are screaming foul play.

Ribadu was arresting thieves and fraudsters in political garbs, a lot of defrauded Nigerians, whose future has been mortgaged by these same politicians were saying he is arresting Obasanjo's enemies, and so what, i dont care, if you are guilty, you are guilty.

Now Sanusi said they should be shot, should he have said it NO, why? because people like some of us here who have a chance to come after him. The only reason why political office holders and the likes don't give vent to their emotions while talking even when they are right is because people would have a chance to attack them. So its not the statement, that is mostly wrong, but its the vultures that are waiting to pounce that make people talk in cheek.

These thieving CEOs, jack up their banks shares with people like Ololo (am sure sanusi did not invent him, he is real and he virtually manipulated the Nation's SEC), make us invest all our lives savings on their dubious public offers, delay the Shares certificate indefinitely, so that they can reap all the gains and then crash the market leaving us with crumbs. Millions of Nigerians were ruined, a lot have committed suicides.

A lot of Nigerians have been lynched for far less, so let us not scream as if we are strangers to jungle justice, if a thief have murdered your wife and raped all your daughters, you would probably clap if he is lynched, or get some form of relief, either wrongly or not, its just human nature.

So if this is an outburst from Sanusi out of anger, then it should not cause too much drama.

The bastards deserve whatever they get, if the constitution says they should be shot, or if an angry investor get a chance to lynch one of them, am not gonna cry nor will i miss them.
Did not even read ur post before posting mine, the truth is constant and the same no matter whose mind it iscomming from.

Thumbs up
BusinessRe: Sanusi Says: Bank CEO's Should Be Tied To Stake And Shot Dead. by Lagosboy: 4:52pm On Oct 26, 2009
Nigerians can never be satisified.

When there is corruption and mess in our society everyone cries out and blame the authoriities and powers that be for not tackling corruption. Right now everyone is angry that ibori is walking free and the agency responsible for prosecuting him is not doing much. Also when Ribadu (made grave mistakes i admit) was in charge and was trying to prosecute this man and others he was accused of acting on a written script.

Our banking sysytem has been soaked with sharp practices and i repeat,affirm and insist that without the local banks assistance , the looting by the ex governors and ministers will not be easy. Few years back, Nigerians were cursing Saraki and Nwobodo (Society general&Savannah) for embezzling depositors money and thousands of Nigerians were ruined and generations to come might suffer from the bankruptcy of some section of the population, their crime being depositing money in those banks.

Today, here comes a man (activist) who is trying to sanitise the banking system and save these banks from imminent collapse and depositors from losing their money and people accuse him of being boko haram, tribalist and all sorts. The problem of Nigeria is not just our leaders but we people of Nigeria are our own problem. Tribalism doesnt exist among the cabal that have Nigeria in their pockets. Corruption has no tribe nor state. The fact that affected banks have all being banks with their founders from a section of the country does not betray the fact that these bosses committed grave crimes. All but one or two surviving banks in the whole country are dominated and founded by southerners so by law of mathematics and natural law , when sanitisation happens it is this same majority that will be affected.

His comment of the ceos deserve being shot although just emotional and maybe metaphorical statement in my opinion is not far from the truth as i believe and will always believe  if the corrupt elite cabal are not exterminated from Nigeria there is no solution to our problem. We will and always remain toothless bull dog till the end of time. The punishment for corruption by govt officials in South Korea is Hanging and i think China as well and there is a reason these countries are the leaders for the so called asian tigers dominating the world economy.

As long as a petty thief is burnt alive in our society and the Odilis, Iboris, IBB's,OBJ's, Akalas of this world are let to walk freely and hailed instead of being mugged to uncounciousness for the crimes against the good people of Nigeria, We will forever be in slavery to the upper corrupt class of our society.
IslamRe: Abuzola: What Is Your Suspicion About Me? by Lagosboy: 3:06pm On Oct 22, 2009
Folks and beloved brothers sheathe the swords. A muslims right over his brother is that he his safe from insults from him. Abuzola lets act maturely as manners of appoach sometimes makes someone on the wrong even if he his fighting a just cause. You shouldnt call your bro muslim by name as Allah alone knows if he his better than you are remember the last verses of surah hujurah "  o ye who believe let not a group scoff at another group as it may be tht the katter are better than the former"     "

Muhsin i think the thread should not have been put up
Abuzola my dear bro soft pedal and dont fight every muslim here please Umar who was assertive and firm yet he had a wonderful character, there has to be a balance btw firmness and good charcter.

Remember the verse is surah fath "Muhammad rasululah wa ledhina ma'au ashidau alal kufaru ruhamau baiynahum . The last words are important bro take heed.
PoliticsRe: Must Read: Nasir El-rufai To Yar Adua, About His Refusal Of Nigeria Passport. by Lagosboy: 3:12pm On Oct 13, 2009
Honeslty i dont fancy el rufai in the least as he his just a loud mouth and part and parcle of the OBJ failed 3rd term agenda. Anyone remember Bayo Ojo ? Yaradua unfortunaletly through foolish and childish measures is giving this guy undue and unneccassary popularity and making him gain people's sympathy. I dont think yaradua has smart politicians round him in the least.
PoliticsRe: Change Nigeria 2011 Coalition: Let's Join Hands And Bring Change To Nigeria by Lagosboy: 4:50pm On Oct 09, 2009
This is a nice idea and a step in the right direction. As Nigerians we have todo something and enough of armchair criticism. However i have a question?

If evertythign you said worked fine and everyone comes out to vote for the right candidate and the next day Inec declares another person as the winner what should be the solution ?

1. Wait for eletion tribunals?
2. The begining of an inevtibale revolution aginst the arisotcratic cabal/mafia holding on to Nigeria?
3. Accept it as the will of God?

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