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This team should be disbanded and the Amodu sacked.

This team dat played today doesnt seem a team destined for greatness period. Tunisia played better

Please why is this in this section of NL.

@jarus is this the right section for this sort of lewd contributions in Ramadhan.

GEW:
o boy how u dey i have been wondering what happened to you? hope you are well?

Thanks my guy o i dey kampe , na chop money carry me go wey i no dey active , very soon God willing i shall be back full time

back to this matter. you have something running is different from surviving let alone successfull. UK banks know very well that apart from the funds they get from dubai and the arab states which by the way the fund managers dont place into sharia compliant islamic funds there is nothing to gain from any islamic banking system.

it will interest you to know that not even the bankers themselves are patronising this product cos barclays for example said only 17% of staff poled said they would use the products. note the intention to use not actually subscribing.

you know too weel the UK is a politically savy environment so dont think they are doing it becos it makes business sense.

good to know you are back and active again.

Barclays as far as i know dont have the product in the UK. Islamic bank of Britain is into full time islamic banking and has been waxing strong since 2004 when it came into inception.

If there is nothing to gain from islamic banking in the UK Llyods tsb and hsbc would have closed it long time as the product are targeted at retail banking and halal mortgages which has little or nothing to do with funds from the gulf countries. The products are targeted at the muslims and non muslims who prefer ethical banking and it is a niche market in the UK with about 10%muslim population.

illusion2:
lets reason together as well lagos boy,I personally dnt have any problem with I-banking ,d problem non-muslims have with this and 'sharia implementation' in a supposedly secular country like ours,is the promotion of one religion over the other. . . . . Everybody loves his religion & is protective of his/her beliefs. When we begin to throw our faith around in a supposedly non-religious environment. . . . THERE LIES THE PROBLEM.

in dubai,saudi etc,Islam is STATE RELIGION so no problems,u even have bank names like Islamic Bank etc. . . no one bothers becos we appreciate thats the religion officially here,but in a country like Nigeria,this'll just inflame tensions unnecessarily.

I feel your fear my guy and it is justified but lets not display unneccessary apprehension as this is just banking and a banking product to satisfy more than half the poupluation of Nigeria if they are interested. Any other religion that has a banking product could as well do the same with no issue at all. The fact that a bank is called islamic bank of Britain doesnt mean the 10% or less muslims are forcing their faith on the 90% population and it will be interesting to note that the management of the bank has many non muslims in it and several employees are non muslims.

illusion2:
Lagos bobo,i understand your interest in this,but incase u haven't been watching the news for the past few years-[b]OSAMA BIN LADEN IS ALLIED WITH THE TALIBAN & was chased out of kabul  during the US invasion in Oct 2001([/b]Operation Enduring Freedom) & is believed to be currently hiding in the mountain region btw Afghanistan & pakistan,so the topic is indeed topical 

Your not believing the story is another thing however,as u are perfectly entitled to your opinion. 

What you quoted here is what everybody knows, Alqadeda pre 9/11 was not really allied with taliban as they were differen entities with different objectives however the common denominator was islam and sharia rule. Alqeda existed before the emergence of taliban and when they took over jabul they never really disturbed alqaeda. After 9/11 the taliban has been largely independent as it was. Also, Training in afghanistan does not imply training with taliban as there are different militant sects in afghanistan pre 9/11 and post 9/11. Ranging from the militants of sha masood to Gulubudeen hekmatyar. Alqaeda today according to CIA operates from the mountaneuos terrain and not from within afghanistan and there is little or no command and control of the taliban from alqaeda.

Point of note Bin laden was not kicked of Kabul as he was never resident there in the first place. He was in south of Afghanistan and alsto stayed in jalalabad. he escaped from tora bora mountains in that famous battle.

You will notice even BBC was very careful in mentioning links to alqaeda in the said article.

illusion2:
there's actually nothing wrong. . . .we don't just want wool pulled over our eyes in the name of bank rescue

Lets reason together, which is easier is it to raise 25 billion and start a new bank with a fresh image or acquiring a bank with billions of dollars in liabilities and bad image. Islamic bank is against interest and buying a bank built on interst will be an oxymoron of some sort.

These banks are PLC remember and sanusi cannot just dash anyone th e banks which has board of directors. Sanusi sacked the management and not the owners or shareholders of the banks. Management are paid employees different from owners although an owner could also be in the management like oceanic and intercontinental.

Seun:
Islamic banking can't really survive side-by-side with normal banking, unless imposed by force.
Would you deposit your money in a bank that offers no interest when other banks offer interest?

Islamic bank is surviving well in the UK and conventional banks have islamic banking as a product so i am sorry your statment above is highly untrue. Your conclusion based on interst is not that simple if you understand banking. Islamic banking will give depositors profit out of the investments and the diffeerence is they both share the risks both bank and customer and likewise when it gives loan they both share the profit as well as the loss.

@poster

Allegedly training in afghanistan is not link to alqaeda in anyway and no where close to Bin laden pls modify your topic.

Secondly i dont believe this BBC news one bit as its source is from Nigeria police. A single man confessed to training in afgahanistan and was promised 50k dollars on return Before we all jump to conclusions lets think deeply and analyse the circumstancs surrounding such confession. You do not need to go to afghansitan to get training in bombs, while someone in the Nigeria Army or police bomb sqaud could well teach them.

Shameless NPF . Stupidity in its highest form.

You brothers should satisfy the thirst of we that could not attend. Show us pics , video and express the happenings at the iftar as it is almost one week. Like ayinba said you could send it to our mailing addresses if some folks dont want their pic online for obvious reasons.

HIROSHI:
Sincerely, I kind of think MR Crackles displayed personal Islamic bias. He was very passionate about this ISLAMIC banking thing probably for parochial reasons. And coming from someone who has always tongue lashed Christian leaders.

This is my personal opinion though.

Why single out a person and personify the issue at stake.

Bank bosses allegedly mismanged peoples money and they are facing the music , how on earth as this got to do with muslim or christian issue. The debtors are muslims and as well christians, northerners and as well southerners lets live above religious and tribal bias.

Xavier.:
I dont have beefs with the individual called, Sanusi, infact i admire him. But i get uncomfortable when i see the workings of a devious plan with the sole intent of disrupting the little economic vibrancy this country has.

The whole economy of Southern Nigeria evolves round the banking industry. Telecomm coys are booming cause bankers are calling, clothing stores on the Island, Cinemas, private schools everything revolves round the banking industry.

And the economy of nothern Nigeria eveolves round what?

Nothing kills banking faster than bad press. Banking is all about perception, so when the suppossed No. 1 banker in the indusrty starts labelling banks as sick i get really worried.

Like someone said what if the banks are truly sick?

Did Sanusi lie about the non performing loans?
Did Sanusi and EFCC lie about Ibru granting loans to phoney companies?

We should remember that these banks might have their CEOs as southenrers but majority of the shares are owned by Nigerians(not southeners) and the banks are PLC's.

The stench in Nigeria Financial industry is alarming and shameful. From the early 90s we have been having distressed banks whwere millions of poor nigerians lose their hard earned income and here is man trying to prevent that and people are crying foul especially as he his from the North.

The level of cynicism on this issue is so worrying. When it comes to islam people just stop using their God given intellectual ability to think and all sense of juidgement flies away. A CBN governor saying he will support the emergence of islamic banks becomes an issue He is not saying he will use public money , neither is he saying he will be the one to establish those banks as he his simply a regulator.

Take the word islamic out of it and call it ethical banking then people will say yes it is a good idea. I believe we should be able to live and think above some sentiments as we youths are the future of Nigeria.

I live in the UK and the population of muslims here in the UK is less than 10% of the country yet some of the big banks have islamic banking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5075998.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6483343.stm

HSBC - ammanah banking
Lloyds TSB - Islamic trust
Islamic bank of Britain

Non muslims bank with this banks as well as muslims based on ethics and interst issues. Nigerians havin an alternative to the mess in the conventional banking should not be an issue anyone will read islamising of Nigeria to or Nothern agenda. Lets be mature in arguements and think objectively. When Soludo was the governor of CBN people did not read christian agenda to every move he made so why do the opposite to Sanusi. double standard it is called

Peace

According to the fiqh of islam as far as i know . The hadith cannot be taken to literally mean u cannot break with any other than dates and water. Also there is no reason or evidence to suggest your reward of fasting is going to be lesser cos you broke your fast with paw paw or biscuits. food is food and fruits are fruits. Apart from the unlawful food in islam i am not aware of any fiqh restrictionin type of food for certain times in islam.

In fiqh there several rulings we draw from the statement of the rasul
Haram
Halal
Permissible
Mandub
Makruh

This hadith doesnt imply using other fruits as haram, the scholars of islam will draw the ruling of "Recomended" mandub which doesnt mean your reward will decrease or not increase. Thisissue is very trivial and not one we should make any issue out of at all oce the topic has been modified.

@Abuzola you should not say you want to leave the topic like that when it is clear the topic is wrong and misleading. We are not sensational journalist who use such topic to capture attention , this is islam and misleading topics does more damge than good as some will not even bother to open the page. Please modify the topic bro.

i will prefer to discuss this issue with you in private please what is your email address.

Of course verses abrogate verses and no surah is abrogated in the quran. The whole verses in surah taubah was revelead in the 9th year of hijra like i said and the verse in baqara you quoted "Fight those who fight you" was on of the first verses of jihad revealed in the ealry years of hijra before the battle of badr. The verses of surah tauba is not abrogated at all and to discuss the verses and its meanings give me your email and inshallah we can discuss it.

My dear bro though it is sunnah to break the fast with dates, you can with any other fruits you find or water as well. To say breaking the fast with orange is wrong is misleading and no faqih will say it is wrong.

david we fast from dawn to dusk not dusk to dawn

The will still be praying maghrib at zenon now. in 10 mins they should be at mama cass so u could gatecrash

mashallah , more to come . I am with you all in spirit lols. Anyone with cam corder to shoot us some film inshallah

Not contributed in a while but Skyone it appears you are new to this section i will advise you to go through the archives as many of your questions have been answered tens of time over and over again. There is no point going over same issues week in week out i guess.

when i have the time inshallah i i will explain them vereses in surah tauba to you but point of note is those verses are not abrogated but contextual in relation to the events of that time.

@abuzola my bro surah tauba was one of the lat surahs revealed and it was reveled around the 9th year of hijra when the muslims led by abu bakr wen tto hajj and the rausul PBUH sent Ali RA to catch up with the muslims and recite to them the verses. Inshallah will try to explain in a bit more detail when i am less busy.

3 hrs to go !!! have a wonderful day. Abuzola must go

Can anyone please volunteer to please drive abuzola back to his area. there is a bro that said he lives in opebi, ikeja which is not far from Agege. Lets make my beloved bro without anyother excuse but to inshallah attend.

@Abuzola you can see loads of fellas wanna meet you , be a gentleman and honour the invitation of your bros according to the hadith of the prophet PBUH which implies "one of the rights a muslim has over his bro is to honour is invitation to dinner when he his invited"

@Mukina2 if you will attend then i should be there.

Anyone out there in the UK interetsed iin something similar. London might be an ideal location.

@Abuzola
I don miss u too my personal person and i will love you to attend the event. Just taken the backsit a bit due to personal reasons.

Would not mind to host something in the UK but will like to know which location will be best for everyone in the UK. Although i do not live in london i think london might be the ideal place. Uplawal and other UK guys what do you all think

See as me lagosboy no go fit attend lagos event na wah o. Jarus good initiative and may Allah strengthen the bond between us all and use us to acheive great things for islam and make us a great benefit to the muslims and not a liability to islam. Realy wish it was a time i was on holiday to naija. Abuzola my person make sure u go there o! VI to agege no be lagos to abuja nah.

Although i am not in Lagos, Jarus if most of the people going will be from the mainland would it make sense if i sugest you guys could find a place on the mainland and where you could pray maghrib and then pounce on the food to start the feast.

To all my beloved bros and sis

I wish you all Ramadhan kareem and May we be of those that will immensly benefit from this precious month of Ramadhan, may he have the strength and good health to perform all the neccessary deeds and may our actions be accepted by the most High.

Taqaballah minna wa minkum

@Mukina special ramadhan kareem to you

If this write up is really the manifesto of boko haram then i must say i believe they are on the wrong in terms of their ideology.

Abuzola:
Taliban education of women and women's rights[/b]

Under Shariah law women must be given the rights that Allah and His Messenger have instructed, that is the right to stay in their homes and to gain religious instruction in the seclusion of purdah. Women must not be educated in anything other than religion beyond the age of eight, or they may become disruptive to society.

The boldened has no basis in islam and it is nothing but junk in my humble opinion. ? It is not only myopic but lacks any intellectual touch and the proponent of this idea doesn not understand the message of islam rather he only has information but not understanding.

How will our women have female doctors to treat them if they are not to be educated?
How will our women have female dentist,nurses,teachers and so on if they are not to be educated?
How do we explain women versatile in healthcare that treated the companions on the battlefields?

What is called western education today is originally advancement in knowledge by the muslims of early times ranging from chemistry to astronomy , from biology to mathematical breakthrough.

There is no limitation to the education of women in islam and a woman can be as much as educated as a man.

panteleonk:
muslims are idiots including prohet muhammed

Nobody with an atom of utilised God given intelligence will make such a generalised statement. It is an unfortunate statement from you forgeting that it was also some muslims that went after them, forgeting that the governor of thos states are msulims, forgeting that the president himself is muslim.

I dont trade words and although i am tempted but i will restrain my anger as the prophet PBUH whom you just abused said "the strong is not the one who lets his anger overcome him but the strong is he who can subdue his anger"

peace

Fellas in the house, the issue at stake is not ITT neither is it embezzlement it is about a person who won an election across al Nigeria. An election where there were no ballot boxes not to mention ballot stuffing or rigging , an election that had an unprecedented success in the history of Nigeria. The annulment led to hundreds of lives been lost when the soldiers took to the streets to crush the protest of the masses, an election that the whole of Nigeria put religion and tribe aside to vote for a prefferred candidate without sentiments.

the reps made a right motion and immortalising or recognising June 12 as a public holiday in Nigeria is long overdue in my opinion. It is a shame that OBJ's inaugural speech in 1999 had no mention of June 12 in it.

We should put our sentiments aside and look at the issue at stake. You could hate Abiola but what you cannot deny is the signinifance of June 12 the history of Nigeria and M.K.O was the symbol of June 12  who chose not to renounce the madate for his freedom even when he had the chance. Kofi Annan and Emeka Anyaaouku went to himm in 1998 and asked him to renounce his madate for freedom but he said release me and take me back to Epetedo where i declared myself president to renounce my mandate before the very people that gave it to me not renouncing it in a secret room. Those were words of a hero despite his crumbled business and four years in incaceration still stood firm. Even if the reps stand against immortalising M.K.O June 12 should never be kept in the dust bin of history and should be a public holiday.

asha 2:
How can someone have a monoply of importation of sugar,cement,flour.I know he is good business man but honestly what does he know that other nigerian biz men do not know?

Certainly knows how to monopolise everything

gen2genius:
LOL, because the site is owned by and meant for muslims, abi?

Our mutual intelligence will tell us this particular section is for muslims and it clearly says so, the thread in particular has nothing to do with other faiths, it isnt combative, it isnt controversial rather it is simply muslims personal experiences and in my humble opinion anybody that has nothing sensible to contribute should just not post. Me personaly havent posted anything to do with the topic cos i dnt have personal experiences to share.

Thor:
I just saw him in the pub and he was well drunk. I would of thought that he could have held his beer better being a divine being?

Just shows you, you never can tell

gen2genius:
MADNESS IN ACTION

How do you see someone that's dead and decayed thousands of years ago? Someone you NEVER saw when he was alive? How will you know he's the one you're seeing?

Gentlemen with all due respect , you do not have to contribue anything to all posts. Here are muslims discussing personal expreiences and if youi do not like its content just stay off. Your comments are indeed disrespectful and THOR ur attempted humour is sour in taste. Respect is really improtant in life and civility is a wonderful virtue

People might not like Sharpton but his oratory skills and power should not be in question. Not many people have it and i personally rank him with Obama, Martin Luther in this regard.