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VAPatrick:
Stop trying to sound intelligent. Your first commend on this thread already gave you away as someone who's intellectually challenged.

Government propaganda agent. Your skull is full of shít. Provide answers to the questions I asked you or you are forever a fool.

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BayoSteel:
Uneasy lies the womb that carried your foetus, and the moment you decided to drop your sound argument towards my assertion albeit disrespectfully. That’s is where u bleeped up, so unfortunate landmann, here’s is a point for your wise consideration

The point is not about binance not being legally culpable for the actions of her customers, it’s the fact that they have also broken constitutional laws as a company- tax law and basic KYC footprint- that has nothing to do with their customers that use their platform or Nandi Kanu & Igbojo, You see your completely barking at the wrong point like a dog and u totally misremembered the point in discuss,

Thus the reason why NSA is charging it for deliberate economic sabotage and FIRS for Tax evasion.


Now lemme quick show you the folly of ur point. That means I wanna assume you have summited a constructive point and not this one u tot u have some wisdom to cry about. Seun can Infact be invited based on crimes that emernate from this platform.

I appeal to you to read more about Criminal Liability under the constitution of our Nigerian Federation

Criminal liability is a legal concept that holds individuals responsible for the actions or omissions if they are found to have committed a criminal act in person or by PROXY. Criminal liability differs from civil liability, which is based on the breach of a contract or tort. To be considered criminally liable, an individual/group must have acted with intention or NEGLIGENCE and thus there must be both an actus reus and mens rea. I don’t wanna go to much into this pls investigate our constitution. But I will quickly show u what the law says and how it how applies to ur point of Seun of Nairaland.

Whenever a Seun or Binance or any business owner is ultimately responsible for business then crimes committed by partners (ie employee/client/customer )depends on the specific circumstances of each case. However, in general, business owners can be held liable for crimes committed by their partners if:

The owner had knowledge of the crime and failed to take steps to prevent it. For example, if a Seun knows that a partner is falsifying records, but does nothing to stop them, the owner could be held liable for fraud.

The owner created a corporate platforn or culture sef, let’s even forget platform if he just remote insinuate it some body language that encouraged or tolerated criminal behavior. For example, if a company has a policy of rewarding partners for meeting sales targets, even if they achieve those targets through illegal means, the owner could be held liable for the partners' crimes.

The owner personally participated in the crime. This is obvious, im the case of Binance mind you, but it's worth noting that if an owner is directly involved in a crime, they can be held personally liable for their actions.

In some cases, both the business owner and the partners may be held liable for a crime. For example, if a yahoo boy or senetor commits fraud or corruption 😁, and is bisiting (Binance/Opay/Piggybank etc) for the very first time but the binance didnt know about the fraud and failed to take steps to prevent it by following the CBN protocol of issue security notice sudden visitors like those, both the parter and the owner could be charged with fraud. Look all this laws are enshrined in our constitution is just that we invok em when we don’t like someone/something and wanna punish/strick em albeit Legally 😁 so that’s my point. I hope you will understand and offer more criticism in a respectful manner the next tym. With me or with some else. You blooody Motherfuker 😁

Because I like seun It's important to note that platform and business owners like him can take steps to protect themselves from liability for business crimes. These steps include:

Developing and implementing a compliance program. A compliance program should include policies and procedures for preventing and detecting criminal behavior.

Providing training to employees on ethics and compliance. This training should help employees to understand the company's policies and procedures, and to recognize and report potential criminal behavior.

Creating a culture of compliance. This means making it clear to employees that the company takes ethics and compliance seriously, and that any violations of company policies and constitutional provisions will be investigated and punished.

By taking these steps, Seun 😁 and other big boys and business owners can reduce their risk of being held liable for business crimes when Nig comes with the noose like a damn hangman.

However, it's important to remember that no compliance program can completely eliminate the risk of liability. Ultimately, the best way to protect yourself from liability is to create a culture of ethics and compliance within your company. Ko ju baum loor. Shikenah! God bless Nairalanders and I above all God bless the Federal republic of Nig.

The scrotum that carried your sperm must be rotten.

Read all the nonsense you wrote and ask yourself if you can comprehend your jargons that looks copied from disjointed sources.

If you are not daft then you will know that Binance indeed has a very strict KYC process. Your access to their platform is limited unless you complete their KYC.

Your useless government ought to follow a diplomatic and constructive path to get whatever information they sought from Binance instead of this shameful act of kidnapping foreigners and using them as bargaining chips to force cooperation.

Perhaps your memory is faulty that's why you seem not to recollect that just few weeks earlier your same useless government lifted a "socalled" ban on crypto currency trading, only to turn around and start blaming a cryptocurrency exchange for their shameful failure in managing the economy.

If you are so in love with this government you can donate whatever you and your miserable family earn monthly as tax to the government so they can loot it and share amongst themselves.

No jobs, massive inflation, highly underpaid workforce and here you are supporting a failed government that hasn't been able to help it's citizens in the aforementioned areas and then berating a company that has provided some form of employment opportunity for millions of Nigerians.

You're a person with misplaced priorities.

Enjoy your life.

socialmediaman:
For context:

This N225 naira per KPH is about 15 cents per kilowatt hour. The minimum wage in Nigeria is N30,000 monthly

North Dakota pays about 10 cents per kilowatt hour. Minimum wage in North Dakota is $7.25 per hour (N1.3 million naira monthly).

Texas pays about 15 cents per kilowatt hour. Minimum wage in Texas is $7.25 per hour (N1.3 million naira monthly).

Where is that useless mannabbq hellinus and frestuffng and other moronic government propaganda agent on Nairaland?

Come and explain to Nigerians why this increase in hardship by the government is ok given the above analysis

Government of propaganda.

You won't see helinus frestuffng and other useless propaganda agents on this thread to state actual achievements of Tinubu's failed government.

Hardship and suffering is now a norm in Nigeria.

May it never be well with any government propaganda agent on Nairaland and other social media platforms

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emkz:
It is because you are silly that you'd come here to lie.

You pay close to 60k naira in tax and more than ten million since you started working. That means you have worked for about 13 years if your story is remotely true. What kind of work is that and what kind of tax did/do you pay? Answer with evidence if you'd dare.

You pay for your healthcare and water and electricity. Don't people who pay taxes in US, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, Europe and USA pay for healthcare, water, and electricity?

You have a choice not to run your own generator. You claimed to have skills, but you lack basic thinking skills. Instead of running a generator, why couldn't you find alternative means of power like a dedicated wind turbine and even coal or solar? Wouldn't that take you off the grid?

Who told you China is developed? Please do a Google search on that as I cannot teach you something you ought to know if you are half-intelligent. China is industrialized partly because they took drastic actions against people like you who want to operate through mago mago for profits. You are pained because you probably lost a lot of money through dubious things. Of you despite Nigeria so much, carry your business to China let me see if you'd survive one day of your own corruption there.

The recent T-bills were oversubscribed by as much as three times. Attractive with rate of 21.49%, which is reasonable for any sensible investor. But you wouldn't know that because you are at best a small-scale yahoo businessman as evidenced by the lies you posited.

Because you are miserable, you are projecting your misery to me. I can't say I feel your pain because I don't. I will not insult your family, because they have done nothing to me. I just feel sorry for you for disgracing your parents after all the time they spent to raise a responsible human being and raised a myopic fraud like you. I will also not compare skillswt with you because I can't peddle low self esteem with you who is obviously pained and seeking validation of "I am better than you".

You obviously are not aware of the number of deaths from mass shootings in the US on a daily basis nor are you aware of knife attacks in the UK

Your problem is that you think others on nl live the same miserable life as you.

I probably finished my NYSC service while you were still writing jamb, if at all you wrote or even went through the four walls of a university.

How much do you think someone with a net pay of N380k/m pays in tax monthly in Nigeria?

How many times have you seen those in UK or US taking gallons to go buy water from the borehole of next door neighbour?

How many people living in US or UK run their business with generators 12 hours a day because the government cannot provide electricity? Do you even understand the cost implication and the impact on inflation of running individual generators due to government's inability to fix power sector which all boils down to corruption and a rotten system?

You foolishly suggest that I, an individual, should generate my own electricity after paying tax, meanwhile, until recently, the law of your useless country did not permit it. So, in essence, what is the tax I and others pay being used for?

You boldly suggest that it's okay to remain in darkness in Nigeria.


China is not developed but most of the heavy railway and road construction projects in Nigeria are being handled by Chinese companies. Most of the android phones and spare parts being used in Nigeria are manufactured in China. China is net exporter of goods and services and they've been maintaining a positive trade balance for a long time now which has given them a strong and stable currency that is even among the basket of currencies used for global trading.

Now, contrast all the above metrics with your darling country and tell me were your country stand compared to China. How many times has the president of China come to beg your Nigerian president for loan? How many road and railway construction projects are Nigerian companies handling in China? What and what do you manufacture in Nigeria and export to China and other countries?

You celebrate a 21% return on T-bill investment but what is the inflation rate? In one year, your 1 million will be 1.2 million but in same one year time, anything that costs 1 million today will cost 1.3 to 1.5 million in one year's time. So, who loses?

On Kuwait, what I mentioned is that Kuwait does not charge tax the way Nigeria does, yet they're still able to provide basic amenities for their citizens. Kuwait generates more electricity than than Nigerian and more electricity than their country needs, and it's quite affordable. How many kilowatts of electricity does your corrupt and inefficient government in Nigeria produce and how many times do you have national grid collapse in Nigeria in a year which plunges a large proportion of the country into darkness. To you, all this is very normal. How can a normal person think like this?

If you are pained because I said I am more skilled and earn more than you then go and hit your head on a wall. You stirred the hornets nest with your dumb comment earlier. Were you expecting a pat on your flat head?

Below is one of my investment portfolio since you're looking for proof that we're not in same class.

I can tell that you are among those that brought this calamity of a government upon Nigerians. No point engaging you further. Enjoy your country and government. If you can survive then I can survive.

emkz:
Finally, the way some of you abuse the system in Nigeria, you and politicians inclusive would be executed if you try it in other countries. You have too much freedom in Nigeria, which has allowed people like you to be abusing laws. Go and try some of these things you do in China, Indonesia, and Russia.

You're dumb...

I pay close to 60k every month in TAX.... I have paid over 10 million in tax to the useless Nigerian government since I started working. What has the government given to me in return?

Till now I still don't have electricity. I pay for my healthcare and I pay for security, water and fuel for electricity. These are very basic amenities that the government could have provided with the money they have collected from me.

Do you know what it means to run a generator on diesel or fuel for 12 hours a day, 20 days in a month in other to keep your business going?

Over 60 years after independence and your government is unable to provide electricity for Nigerians because they keeps looting and stealing whatever money they get from crude oil sales and taxing poor Nigerians. What kind of a fool will keep supporting such government?

Look at your lame excuse that population is too high in Nigeria that is why it's difficult for the government to provide basic amenities and security for Nigerians. What is the population of China? How come China is industrialised and developed while your elected government officials keep running to China to borrow money that they'll still loot while "patriotic" people like you come online to defend and support them?

You think you are wise by buying treasury bills and the socalled renewed hope infrastructure fund... Lol... What is the interest rate on the treasury bill? What is the inflation rate? In one year time you'll be poorer for the decision you just took cos whatever you get from such investment will become worthless due to inflation.

Your corrupt government will never implement extreme laws like killing public officials who loot public funds or resources. But they're always ready to implement extreme policies to cripple the populace.

Please don't compare my choices to your miserable life. The skills I have and the amount of money I'm able to make with the skills, I doubt if you or anyone in your immediate family can make such.

If I criticise Nigeria or Nigerian government it is because I hate and detest the system. I have seen what Nigeria can do to those who do not have the means to protect themselves.

Nigeria does not protect the weak and vulnerable the way the USA and UK protect their population, especially the weak and vulnerable, the lower class.

Your country is still paying 30k as minimum wage in a time where cost of goods and services have risen by over 1000%.

The joke is on you sir. Your eyes are open but you can't see

gaby:
All the political thieves in the country if adequately taxed can generate twice this amount.

Just a suggestion to grant the already battered and impoverished citizens some respite.

You're wasting your time advising the good for nothing Tinubu government.

Those two fellows emkz and frestuffng trolling around nl with propaganda should start donating all they earn monthly to the government as they're the only patriotic souls in Nigeria.

Meanwhile it is on record that only the laziest and most corrupt governments tax their citizens to the high heavens with nothing to show for it.

With all the resources in Nigeria, the unintelligent people in government cannot think of a way to make money to run the country. They rather sit their dull brains somewhere and issue directives to tax people who work hard for their income while they wait on the sidelines to steal from it via tax then loot it into private accounts.

Many top oil producing nations don't tax their citizens; Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc... They have enough income from their natural resources and they don't loot it like those in Nigeria do.

Funny enough it is always the lazy and wicked southern presidents that so much tax Nigerians, taxes that end up being paid mostly by southerners in Nigeria while northerners don't pay as much

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BayoSteel:
The Same US that sanctions Binance with over $4.5 million as punishment for breaking Tax law! I douth ur assertion sir, Nig through the FIRS has also claimed Tax laws have been broken in Nigeria and was only await Ribadu n NSA to chop well before they begin their own prosecution. Who knows how much $$$ Binance will be required to refund FIRS. Binance is done for and considering that interpol is now involved with manhunt for their exe. No country will take them seriously again. Nigeria might have fired the bullet that’s going to bleed that company to ultimate death!

It's okay to be stupid. Displaying it in public through nonsensical writeup and propaganda is where the problem is.

Your useless government has no shred of evidence that Binance did any wrong.

If you don't understand what is happening, ask yourself this; will séun the owner of Nairaland be held responsible for what you say or do on Nairaland simply because he's the owner of Nairaland?

If you don't know the answer, scroll down to the bottom of your nl homepage and read what's written there.

Same thing applies to Binance. Users are responsible for their actions on Binance. If their behaviour or actions violate any law then the individual is held responsible to the extent of the damage done.

But your useless government kidnapped two foreigners whom they invited for discussions.

Your useless government is now looking for evidence to use against Binance by holding the US and UK citizen as hostage to demand evidence from Binance.

The same thing they did to Nnanmdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho. No evidence to prosecute them so they kidnap them and lock them in jail and get corrupt judges to issue rulings in their favour.

In all this, many of you with underutilized brain cells conveniently forget that Binance has been helping Nigerian government agencies like EFCC and NPF to combat crime and giving them free education and training and equipments related to blockchain technology.

Instead of your useless government to create a conducive environment for negotiation and dialogue to see how to formulate regulation and policy to guide and encourage crypto development in Nigeria, your useless government is using illegal strong arm tactics to intimidate Binance with the ultimate aim of discouraging blockchain technology and crypto development in Nigeria so that youths can remain enslaved and controllable under poverty and unemployment.

Open your brain and think for yourself.

Again, it's okay to be stupid but it's best to hide it

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Who knows, maybe they have killed the man and they're now dishing out propaganda to confuse people.

I know us and uk are waiting for Tinubu government to completely fúck themselves up before they step in.

How you think you can kidnap another country's citizen after asking them to come talk over issues and after asking Buhari to print trillions of naira that led to massive inflation in Nigeria and depreciation of the naira is something I would like to see Cardoso and Tinubu explain in international court.

Mind you, 99% of youths in the north north, south and south east won't defend the useless confused government of looters. Agbado swallowers and Tinubu's children will do the defending

BrokenCondom:
This will be quite an epistle, please bear with me

When i met my babymama or should i say wife... We met on fb and i was swayed by these two factors... she was a Muslim, despite the fact that i had given up on religion. I also wanted her because she was about my age, i am only a month older than her. Why? I have some unnecessary phobia to marrying a younger lady, someone who may not have seen life enough to stay faithful to her man (prone to taking wrong steps)

My relationship with this lady was not so smooth but manageable. I have a bad attitude of not calling but she is very good at that. I rather chat longer than talking on phone via voice calls. She wasn't unhappy with that and do call me as much as she want. But for me, i was so fed up with her incessant calls, it bore life out of me.

She gave me another vibe then. Back 2018, life was dealing with me, i lost my job, ate my savings and all but since i wasn't married, i was good. That was when i met her, she was never demanding, she wanted my money but knew i nor get, so she didn't bother bothering me about doing much financially for her. I loved her for that.

FF till 2021 during which, in past (2019,2020) we were on and off the relationship of my own bad character of not calling... i had left town to do some menial jobs up north that put a little distance between us... and me not picking calls often?
So fastworward to 2021 when i came back to Lagos, i took a job (not paying much)
I had no GF but i was meaning to settle down, have a good relationship with someone i can settle with. I can assure that im not a bad looking man but i wasn't interested in all these ladies that will be demanding up and down. So i remembered the only relationship that geve me peace of mind, a relationship that wasn't so expensive to manage. I remembered my now babymama.

Let me say this, when i called her... my exact words were "i don't know if you have a serious relationship now but i felt i still love you, i wish you can attain some heights (i.e learn some trades or get a job of your own. As she was managing a family business) before we get married. you already know my weakness and i will try to improve myself too but also know that i still haven't made headwaves in life but i am not lazy too. If you don't mind we Kickstarting the relationship back i won't mind too. I just need you to know i am still struggling and since you are the only one who wasn't asking for much from me, i feel i can trust you. She agreed.

I had rented a room then, although very expensive but it was close to my work place.

In my then room was a mat i bought for 5k and a mp3 for songs. Aside that, nothing more.

When she came to visit, she was disappointed which she didn't say but i felt it. After she left i stoped showing affection because of her attitude just to know if she'll keep the tabs which she did. She still kept calling, so I thought she was excited about me and believed my situation will change. This made me make advances, we kept seeing each other till she got pregnant...

This was the genesis of why i need your advice guys..

She broke the news to me about the pregnancy and i was devastated, but i was already in my mid 30's closing gap on 40. How on earth can i say she should terminate it, im even sure she won't because i was only a month older than this lady.

I was hesitant to tell my parents who will be happy their only male child is doing the needful.
I called her to my house, i told her what could happen and gave her 3 instance

1. Stay with me let's endure together as we can do it. I know it will be very difficult but we can do it if you're not tired of me. I know my place is never comfortable but if we are together in true mind, that shouldn't be a problem

2. I can make arrangements for you to go to my parents place, outside Lagos in one of the neighboring Oyo town. Which i pretty sure will be very good for you because they will take good care of you.

3. You'll stay wherever you like, probably your parents place or whatever you suggest.
So she suggested i get an apartment for her around her current place, not far from her family's business and all. As of that time that would be very difficult to do for me. So i said it to her face that I won't be able to do that.

She left my place in anger that day and blocked me for over 2 ½ months. I tried getting through to her but she didn't want to hear me, i even began to think if i was not responsible for the pregnancy, maybe she was just wondering who to pin it on and all.

But my conscience wouldn't let me be, so i involved my parents who took it on them to visit her parents, was as if they were begging her to settle down. My own parents later arranged an introduction with the parents and we made a palour party after the pregnancy was about 6months.
I guess the father pressured her to move towards her husband. She agreed to move in with my parents as her excuse was that my place was too uncomfortable for her, which i can understand.

Fastforward she gave birth some months later, i went back home did what i can but my parents were so supportive. She started exhibiting some strange attitudes, like always nagging on phone, saying things like " all the money you are making where are you putting it?
Is it that your parents are the ones to yake care of your family?
I regret settling with you
You need to take me out of here (i told her to move in with me) all she wanted is that i rent another place for her at her own choice location. All these while, things are not changing financially for me, it was even getting worse.... Anytime we have issues or arguments my wife will stop chatting me, stop picking my calls for months at times.

I tried talking with her brother whom i took as a friend, to speak with her about the malice she keeps with me. I thought her unhappiness was even the reasons for my woes.

So i made a move for her to come around, at least so that i can freely play with my baby. She came that week in a notion that she'll stay at least 2weeks. My babymama came on Thursday and was already on my neck to leave on Sunday. I pressed her to stay a lil bit and she left on Tuesday. She went to her hometown and used over 2 weeks there before returning to my parent's place. This actually broke my heart into shreads.

Same lady who was cool with me, got pregnant in same house but now don't want anything to do with me. At a time i needed her the most.

Unknowing to her, one reason for my situation then was that i was processing to travel out of the country. So my time and money wasn't just for having a new apartment or impressing her.

I was waiting patiently for the result of the second travel processing in a row, it came late but i was determined that either ways ot come, positive or negative, i will evict her from my parents house and send her back to her parents.

My travel plans was positive and i left the country last year.. now thisnis my dilemma

My wife now wants to remain in my parent's house she once requested to leave and fight me for making her stay.

She now begs me to forgive all her attitudes that she's ready to change

She now wants to make up for all she made me went through

But i must say, anytime i remember that i was never in my baby's life from start till i even traveled i keep resenting that lady i call wife. All the while i will be full of konji and will have to sleep like a frog, i keep feeling i don't need her anymore. Above all, having to think about bringing her here for the sake of my child gives me nightmare of what she may still do to me in future.

I am in a dilemma, to send her packing from my parent's home or to make all my experience with her unimportant?

She has a good family, I'm sure she'd have left my sorry ass for a long time but she is afraid of what her father will say or what her family will say. If i send her away now, i pity my baby who is now over a year old.

Please your emotionless advises will be taken seriously. I will be lurking around the comments section.

First run DNA to be sure the child is yours. If the child is yours you can start to rebuild your relationship with her and your child. Let go of the bitterness and just concentrate on how you can build your little family, especially your child, if the child is yours.

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