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PrecisionFx:
I couldn't make sense of ur post.

Basic thing is THE LAW IS A FRUITLESS EXERCISE.

We won't hear bout it again just like the other useless laws ambode made last year .

You couldn't make sense of it, because it is not riddled with the lies and propaganda that you are fond of recycling.

You believe the law is a fruitless exercise? Oya, apply to any Lagos state-owned tertiary institution and see if they would admit you, without a credit pass in Yoruba language.

ODVanguard:
Where was your hypocritical behind when your SE governors pioneered the idea?

www.thenationonlineng.net/obiano-makes-igbo-language-compulsory/, www. biatimes.com/2016/03/07/nigeria-igbo-language-now-compulsory-in-igbo-schools-governor-rochas-okorocha/, www.vanguardngr.com/2013/12/university-make-igbo-language-compulsory-course-students

Hehehe.....they developed selective amnesia when all this was happening in the SE!

PrecisionFx:
I never heard about such a law and even if they enacted it, Its dead long before it arrives. It might be something that happened maybe 10 years ago n was never enforced because it is IMPOSSIBLE.

No state in Nigeria can "force" anyone to read a local language before they are allowed to graduate or allowed to gain admission. Such a law has never seen the light of the day in Nigeria and it will remain like that.

Besides if such a law was legal and was announced, Its Igbo land so it is justifiable . Lagos is not Yoruba land so the Afonjas have no ground to enact such law.

Keep kwayiet dia! The fact that you never heard about such a law, does not mean that it doesn't exist. Anambra and Imo states enacted the law on teaching and studying of Igbo language and made it compulsory till today, for all students at primary and secondary school level to study and pass it, in order to be promoted to the next class.

And why is it 'justifiable' for such a law to be enacted in Igbo land, but it is not permissible, for Lagos state to do the same? Stop this hypocrisy, biko. According to you, Lagos is not Yoruba land....okay, I guess it must be Ibibio land or Kalabari land then, not so?

ODVanguard:
See your life? Upon all your huffing and puffing you no even get liver to go court to challenge the law. Smh. I feel una pain though. Lol.

You dey mind am? He is just busy developing headache, backache and high blood pressure over such a small matter. He even lied that Yoruba is not the indigenous language in Lagos. Alright, o! I forgot that it was Japanese!

PrecisionFx:
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/10/20/lagos-house-assembly-passes-yoruba-language-bill-law/amp/

Another useless law enacted in Lagos n has been forgotten already, none of them will fly.

Yoruba is not a Lagos indigenous language and till today Yoruba is not the lingua franca in Lagos and will never be.

"""federalism, not disintegration"""

Federalism n disintegration is same......U should have long known this if u were in the know.

Federalism and disintegration is not the same. Stop developing high blood pressure, over something you do NOT understand. In disintegration, you break up into separate countries, while in federalism, you still remain part of the same country, but with freedom to make laws that affect your people directly within your region, and also the freedom to take charge of resources found within your area, and use it directly to develop your people and its communities.

As for the law passed by Lagos, it can only be abrogated by a court judgement, or repealed, suspended or modified by another law passed by the same Lagos state house of assembly. Educate yourself and stop misyarning. And use panadol for the headache that this matter has given you.

PrecisionFx:
Oga I am laughing at the law, wen did that translate to being pained its a very stupid idea.

Some Igbos sit in federal n state reps/assembly in Lagos, there are also countless Igbo staff members in Lagos state civil service n we also have a very strong presence in Lagos (with population of igbos in millions) n business wise we are there as well. I can't be pained by Lagos, We are there already, As very strong stakeholders

Oga, there are millions of Indians living in London with some of them holding positions within the British govt, sef. Does that mean they won't obey laws made at local level, or by the parliament? It really doesn't matter how many millions of Igbo are in Lagos, they still need to respect and obey laws made by the Lagos state house of assembly, whether they like it or not. If they like, let them attach the word "stakeholder" to their birth certificate.

Stop making too much noise, abeg. If you cannot attend Lagos state-owned tertiary institutions where this law would be made applicable, then attend a federal university where the law does not apply. Chikena! No be by force. Why do you want to kill yahself, over this matter?

Sterope:
Have you ever witnessed a crisis?

Gangster1ms:
It's better not to take chance with these things... are u ss? Do u know what they go through?

Don't mind those clueless jokers who do not even have the slightest idea of what sickle cell is all about. I lost a dear cousin to the disease in 2011, and lost 3 other friends to SS crises, over the years. It was tough!

Stingman:
You need to enlarge your thought process ogbeni...France, Germany, Japan, Spain are countries...That's why we need Biafra and you Odua nation. It is then you can pass that kind of Law. But you will never support Odua state...You cowardly want to eat you cake and still have it.

The only coward here is you....because you feel threatened by a state house of assembly passing a law that a credit pass in the indigenous language called Yoruba, is needed for admission into their state-owned schools.

As for supporting Odua state, I am sure that is a subject for Odua people and not me. I do not support disintegration, because there is no proof that it would improve the fortunes of this nation. The only thing people should be pushing for is true federalism, not disintegration.

If you do not agree with me, I really do not care. I am entitled to my opinion, the same way you are free to hold fast to your own belief. A million insults or mocking comments from the likes of you, will not change my stand.

PrecisionFx:
Mr Land grabber it is not public knowledge that Lagos is not Yoruba land.


The law is dead long before it will attempt to arrive. Come October, U will know how stupidd the law is.

READ MY LIPS3 - U CAN ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE U DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FEDERAL LAWS. SOON UR EYES WILL CLEAR.

No sir, the only land grabber on this thread is you! That is why you feel so pained by the fact that Lagos state has enacted this law. Try not to kill yourself. In this case, the federal govt laws on education will only apply to federal govt tertiary institutions, and not to Lagos state owned institutions. Take panadol for your headache

PrecisionFx:
We have a federal ministry for education, their laws on this case surperceeds whatever the land grabbing Yoruba tribe enacts in their state assembly.

The same federal ministry of education did not stop Anambra state for making the studying and teaching of Igbo language compulsory in its state-owned schools. So why should it stop Lagos for doing the same, and asking that students who wish to attend Lagos state-owned tertiary institutions should do the same?

PrecisionFx:
Yoruba can only enact such a law wen they form a country. As long as they are still within Nigeria, this law is very dead long before it will arrive. During the next admissions, No one will even talk about this and besides we all know Lagos is not yoruba land.

Wrong! When Anambra enacted similar laws making the teaching and studying of Igbo compulsory in state-owned primary and secondary schools, how many tribes complained? In fact, any student who failed to pass Igbo was denied promotion to the next class.

Why are you now wailing just because Lagos has done something similar, and widened the scope to include its state-owned tertiary institutions? A credit pass in Yoruba language at SSCE level or NECO, is simply needed to gain admission into the institution. The language will not be used as a method of instruction within those tertiary institutions, so why this stress?

PrecisionFx:
Stop wasting ur time Mr land grabber. This Kind of useless law will never ever see the light of the day. .

Everyone in Nigeria will get admitted into any university of their choice without restrictions. We are waiting for the next admission so that u will use how useless n baseless this issue will turn out to be. It won't even be discussed anywhere.

Sophisticated moves .

Who is a land grabber? Are you referring to yourself? It is you and your people that have such tendencies, or have you forgotten?

As for the law seeing the light of day, please apply for admission into a tertiary institution owned by Lagos state this year, and see if they do not demand for your credit pass in Yoruba language before granting you entry.

vioment:
Lagos or any other state does not have a right to enforce this kinds of laws. The FG will not allow it. I am a lagos indigene, and I don't want to learn yoruba because it is not a national language. I learn other languages because it is fun for me and not by force. The FG will soon remind the state of that freedom of navigation and choice. In the end this is just blowing smoke. advice any igbo or others not to worry about this backward /hindrance law. Na until people begin fight for streets, then them go change am. Stupid and backward country, everyday a new low.

Oga, go back and read the constitution. Lagos state house of assembly has the right to make laws pertaining to educational institutions established and run by the state. If you do not like this law, go to a federal institution. Chikena!

asha80:
well the analogy didnt fit.

Only in your own eyes....

Stingman:
It is absolutey rubbish...Do they also need to speak Yorubas to pay tax?

It is not rubbish. Free your mind. There are federal institutions located within Lagos that do not require you to pass Yoruba in order to gain admission into their schools. Paying tax has nothing to do with language. It is mandatory for all citizens to pay tax, as well as foreigners. If you lived in France, Germany, Japan, Spain etc., you would pay tax as a foreigner working in any of those countries, even if you were not proficient in any of their languages.

Last word: I am not from Osun state. Neither do I live there. But you are free to attend any institution you like in that state, I guess. They haven't made Yoruba language compulsory for admission in their state-owned institutions have they?

Stingman:
You support this but you would not support disintegration so you could be like Germany and Russia? This is why Europeans are wiser than crazy Africans...All Germans speak german...Doing this will mean that the children will be put under pressure to study another language while they are in their presumed country?

How does this make sense?

Children do not have to be put under any pressure. Those who cannot learn Yoruba still have a choice and can attend federal institutions within the same Lagos state, where this law is not in force.

Not only that, there are 34 or 35 other states in this country, that would still admit you as a student, without demanding Yoruba as a prerequisite for admission. Does that make any sense?

Finally, there are no guarantees that disintegration would automatically turn this nation or its component parts into a developed country like Germany. Sudan disintegrated, but where is it today?

asha80:
problem with this comparison is yoruba isn't the language of instruction in those schools

Nobody said it was. I used Germany and Russia as examples, to draw an analogy between those places and Lagos. Please go back and read my post without prejudice, and clearer understanding.

vioment:
And the govt keeps quiet. Later, you wonder why we don't grow as a nation. I no wan learn am, no be by force; and it shouldn't hinder one's progress in goals. It is funny how people blame the north for their archaic religious laws but are complacent and even supportive if it's their own tribe.

I would not support this type of divisive law that shouldn't be set by the state or lga if it were igbo, so i will not support it now. The govt should make it easy to sue Lagos state or any other state on this type of foolishness.

It is not foolishness. You can still study in 34 other States of the federation if you do not like Lagos State's laws.

RALPHOW:
It is a good decision /program.
How will you implement this program?
Does that means an Ibo boy from Anambra State or Hausa boy from Kano State can not apply to higher institution that belongs to Lagos State?

Of course he can. All he needs to do is to pass Yoruba as a subject, during NECO or SSCE exams, and to do that, he must learn to speak the language. It is a bit like going to study in Germany or Russia. You would have to take a year or so, to master the language of instruction.

onyinyenwadigbo:
Please help. Like how much could the inexpensive testing be done? Where can i get it please?

You can get your genotype test done at any good hospital, manned by professional doctors.

emmysoftyou:
how stupid is ur comment. Who told you Fulani is the owner of fct (abuja)?
They are not even the owner of Hausa land talk more of abuja.
Man if you are Fulani guy, u better wake up and read about fulanis cos they re senegambia.

You dey mind that illiterate? When he said that Abuja whose original indigenous tribes were the Gbagyi, Amwamwa, Bassa, Ebira, Gade, Ganagana, Gbari, Gwandara and Koro, was Fulani land, I knew he had a screw loose in his head. You see why it is not good for a person to smoke hasish, before coming to NL? He will recycle crap, just like that guy has been doing....

freemanbubble:
anyway
do not expect anyone on planet earth to treat you fairly because life doesn't treat any body fairly
and moreover all cannot be fair in love.
she should move on with life . I feel for her

like i always say to my friends do not make your relationship seems as if your life depends on it because anything can happen and circumstances beyond you guyx control might arise
that is why most times when me and my girl friend are together cuddling and watching movies i just whisper this to her 

"baby I cannot guarantee our love life forever but I assure you we will remain friends till the end of time
True friendship isn't about who came first, and who you've known the longest... It's about who came and never left.
I will never leave you as a friend"
immediately I say those words to her she will just heave a sigh of relief and smile

The girl you are whispering that rubbish to, is very daft! So she cannot see through your lies and realise you are just using her in the meantime?

MamaOO:
It’s actually possible to test for Down’s syndrome and other defects before the baby is born as well. There is this thing called the “Nuchal Translucency Test” which is a combination of blood tests and an ultrasound. It is done in the second trimester of pregnancy.... 20 weeks or thereabouts. It tests the amount of fluid behind the fetus’ neck and it gives the odds of the baby having Down’s syndrome. If there is a high risk, the might do additional testing where they insert a needle and collect sample of the amniotic fluid to be certain the baby ha Down’s syndrome or some other stuff. And if it’s indeed true, they tell the parents and give them a chance to decide if they want to keep the baby or not.

OK, thanks for the info.

Kennydoc:
Normal IVF is expensive and doesn't even guarantee pregnancy (beyond a chance of 50%). I know a lady who got pregnant naturally the first time after her wedding. When the child was less than 2 years, she tried IVF simply because she wanted to have twins. That IVF failed woefully.

Secondly, normal IVF alone cannot be used to screen out sickle cell embryos. You need to add what is called PGD (preimplantation genetic diagnosis). PGD is extremely expensive, and is only done in a few centres in Nigeria. Despite the cost, the pregnancy might still fail.

Why go thru all this stress to avoid something that would have been avoided for free?

Thank you for educating the clueless, my brother!

ubunja:
if in nigeria you are doing genotype testing before marriage you are the only ones doing it. america, australia, russia, all the countries are not doing it. coz its a shiity thing to do.noone else is that crazy

It is done in America. And SS is prevalent among Blacks, not Caucasians.

gypsey:
come on! don't be Ridiculous! saying Amen will not determine the birth of a sickle cell child.

people have been told that they will die and they are still Alive

So why are you afraid of saying Amen?

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ubunja:
oh please !!!old time people were stronger than the weakling crybabies i see today.its funny coz before this genotype nonsense babies were stronger. now with all the healthcare babies are weak as jelly.look at any old time photo and see just how strong humans used to be. this genotype rubbish will get you acting like iidiots

OK, may you give birth to an SS child, so that you will understand what people are talking about. Say Amen!

ubunja:
shut up your mouth. long ago healthcare was shiity and many babies died young. now healthcare has improved and people arent dying as much, the same reason why people are living longer and the world is overpopulated. it has nothing to do about genotypes. NOTHING!!!!!

She was referring specifically to sickle-cell children, and not to the world in general. Healthcare has improved now, but it has not prevented some sickle cell children from going through crises, and dying young.

gypsey:
yes! perhaps, what about parents with a down syndromes child should down syndrome children not be brought into the world?

Again as i ve mentioned this Article didn't confirm if the unborn child has been confirmed by a Doctor to be at risks of turning out a sickler, the pregnant woman is been paranoid based on Assumptions.

i am not in dispute of your explainations, besides any child can get ill regardless of sckle cell or not, some children have been born with cancerous illnesses even though their parents have taken all nerccerssary precautions.

I am sure that if it were possible to do genotype testing to avoid bringing a child with Down's syndrome into the world, many people would do it.

But for Sickle-cell, a simple, inexpensive genotype test exists, that prospective parents can take, to avoid bringing SS children into the world. That is why in this day and age, it is sad if parents still go ahead deliberately to have SS kids, when they could have avoided it.

If you are bi-polar it would explain why you have been giving such strange responses on this thread. Please take your medications. Accept my sympathy on your condition.

gypsey:
why the interrogation? are you a General practioner? (Doctor)

You are trivalising the issue of sickle cell, which was why I asked that question. Bringing a sickle cell child into the world can be avoided, if only their parents did genotype testing before getting married and conceiving them. Being a sickle cell sufferer is a world of pain, constant hospital visits and lots of money spent on medication, support and blood transfusions. You have no idea what it entails. So stop trivalising the issue of sickle cell.

gypsey:
look! any child can get ill regardless sickler or not, besides i didn't read were it was mentioned that a proffessional or A doctor confirmed that the child will be a sickler.
what's the guarantee that children who aren't sicklers will not suffer, she is just been unnecerssarily hysterical and paranoid.

Yes, she is being paranoid, but if you have ever seen an SS patient going through a crisis or suffering pain, then you would never trivalise such an issue, like you have been doing so far. Like I said earlier - educate yourself! The stress, pain and suffering SS children go through, is nothing to be sniffed at. And it could have been avoided, if their parents had checked out their genotype and avoided getting involved. Sicklers aren't just born by accident, their parents make them one.