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Olu317:
There is no crime if Yoruba group are related to Yorubas,just as the world is also interwoven. The attah of Igala,even attest to Yoruba migrants that are within his enclave via marriage, migration or conquest. But historically Yoruba are different from Igala.Yoruba leader-founder of new settlement is the pivotal connection that's needed to affirm if Igala was Yoruba land or not. As it is, Igala aren't Yorubas.
Contrary to the meaning of : Onu

(Igala)Onu: king
Yoruba: Or-ni- O'oni- Ooni: owner

The Yoruba equivalent of Onu is Olu not Ooni. Ooni means Omo Oluwo ni

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Hebrew history is only around 5000years ago whereas Yoruba calendar is ,,10060 years

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Kenyanstar:
The question Nigeria as a country and its citizens should be asking is:-
1. Why should Nigeria's population a liability instead of asset
The Nigerian population lacks a clear tax collection system in order to stop over dependency on oil revenue. The alternative of oil dependency could be internal revenue collection through revenue generated from its people as a resource.
2. What advantages can a big population have?
China has used their big population and high number of graduates as an asset by being a source of averagely cheap labor. Imagine if Nigeria turned its country as Africa's manufacturing hub with a free port it would be a world leader competing with China.

You are right! There is need in Nigeria for the government to start depending mainly on taxes. This will change the country.

all these countries are more serious than Nigeria. They dont depend on oil or natural resource money and that is Nigeria's greatest undoing

You can't use the civil service to judge, their whole population can not be more than 50 thousand while the states populatjon will be around 7 million

There are yoruba in edo and niger states as well

PFRB:
I think there should be equal exchange rates. The national currencies can remain for national pride but there should be unitary exchnage rates. That is 1 dollar should equal 1 Cedi.

I used to think like that but what is the point once it is agreed that individual nations can not inflate their currencies, there is no point in having different names for thesame currency

A one world currency will go a long way in healing our world. There will no longer be instances of any nation unilaterally devaluing her currency to the detriment of her peoples as Nigeria did recently. President Buhari has publicly stated his opposition to an ECOWAS currency saying Nigeria should tread with caution. He said this because with an ECOWAS currency there will no longer be an avenue for monkeying around with the NAira as his administration has done recently
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The whole world should have one currency and not only currency for west Africa or Europe.



reference
http://punchng.com/buhari-warns-ecowas-against-hasty-single-currency-implementation/

Olu317:
Jon Wilson, a specialist in Indian his history, acknowledged that Phoenician called themselves as Samaritan Cushites. How were they Proto Arabs? Arabs were small in population before Muhammad came with Islam. And their procreation via One male to four wives led to their population explosion. Further more, the etymology of Yoruba remained within the Yoruba people.

All the languages of Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic and etc are descended from the Phoenician tongue just like French, Portuguese, Spanish were descended from the Latin tongue. So, Romans were proto Spanish for example. that is what I mean.

Olu317:
If the name was not given to identify Princes how come Bini had such knowledge? After all, the Igodo people didn't practice Obaship but use the word for Oranmiyan son. And again, I am one of those that believed eulogy is a key to unravelling some information. At the very tail end of Ooni's descendants eulogy(Oranmiyan's descendants) always end as Kaare O ba mi or input his name if he is an Ooni. The point is that Oba did not exist before Oyo and when Oranmiyan established her properly , O ba as a term for king took root. And from Oyo ,Yoruba begun a new contact with other set of people on trade. This is my submission.

The Songhai copied it from the Phoenicians who were proto Arabs. Uropa in Phoenician means west and it was used to refer to Europe and Europeans, The Songhai being Muslims copied from the Arabs the word which has now gained another meaning of a non Islamic but advanced people.

Olu317:
Truthfully, it was Baba Ahmed who wrote in his travelling account that Yoruba' exist as a name of a people. But there was no way he was the one that gave us the name, because he couldn't have imagined the name without hearing it from the people. The etymology of the name itself doesn't have any link with the language of Songhai .

The name was not given by our people

Olu317:
Truthfully, it was Baba Ahmed who wrote in his travelling account that Yoruba' exist as a name of a people. But there was no way he was the one that gave us the name, because he couldn't have imagined the name without hearing it from the people. The etymology of the name itself doesn't have any link with the language of Songhai .

The name was not given by our people

Olu317:
EUROPA could not have been Yoruba because , etymologically ,it does not fit . Muslims were the last set of people, to get in contact with Yorubas. Arabs dont call father — Ba, nor do they had kings as their overlord,who is always secluded from the public . And O ba in É yi / U yi O ba or OyO Oba ,shows stem connection from where the word came out of from. The Oyo dialect was the beginning of the continuum of development of the Yoruba language. Take for instance, Aba/Uba/Ba means father and not Baba. Baba means Yoruba ancestor. But Oyo made the word more popular,but in deeper Oyo dialect, Ba is maintain for father. The same is applicable to Olodumare.Eledumare was the correct form or ancient form for it. What about Èri which was the correct form for pronouncing Òri ,so on and so forth.

It is known for a fact that the first written reference is in Ahmed Baba of Songhai's books of the 16th century and it is known for a fact that the word was popularised by Hausas

Olu317:
Yoruba couldn't have been given by Songhai People or Songhai Muslim ,because, nobody could call you a name except such came from you as a descriptive form of introduction of oneself, one's people or one's prince with a crown. For example Bini had such knowledge of Oba through Oranmiyan . The point here is that people can't call one a name except it first came through one before it can become popularised. Ibn Battûta had recorded a traveling account of IFE in 1325–1354, but with no knowledge of Yoruba as a name for the migrants of IFE that built Katunga but referred to them as Youfi(IFE). The account was in 1958( page 40, 9-10) . And again these Muslims from songhai don't speak Yoruba,how would they call them such name ? There is no way the word could emanate from Muslims from Songhai or Mahli. The etymology of O Y o U O ba couldn't have came from Songhai Empire or Mahli's

I said EUROPA and YORUBA means thesame. It is a phoenician word meaning West by which the Arabs referred to the europeans, it later came to be used for any non Muslim people with a high degree of civilization. It is also certain that the word Yoruba is not of Yoruba origin, it was first found in the account of the Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba of the 16th century and it was popularised by the Hausa usage of it
https://www.nairaland.com/3641149/yoruba-europa-muslims

church money is to spread the gospel to unbelievers, that is the problem. church money is to spread tales that a virgin gave birth and jesus is coming soon! You cant tax them but you can make what they do unconstitutional and thereby disband them

The name was given by Songhai Muslims, it is thesame way Arab Muslims coined Europa to identify Europe. Europa and Yoruba are thesame word

The Complainant can still make you pay by charging you to a civil case and getting a judgement saying that you should pay

The Names Obasanjo, Obafemi Etc Should have told you oba is part of the yoruba lexicon. once again bini was a yoruba speaking town until relatively recently

Benin in the past was a town like owo in ondo state, the street language was yoruba but later in the 19th century or so, people from the suburbs took over the town, those people are edo speakers.

Most of the world need a good theology more than any other thing nowadays to put people in the right frame of mind. With a good theology the world will be a much less dangerous place to live in, with a good theology there will no longer be suicide bomb attacks, there will no longer be shooters who just shoot people dead for nothing. Abrahamic Theology has failed the world totally and it is high time the good people of the world band together to put an end to it. All states on the planet should place a ban on christianity and islam for peace to reign. The two practices are too militant.

What is the big deal in keeping cattle in a place with water and using vehicles to cut and convey grasses to them?

The situation just before the civil war escalated whereby Northern troops were out of the west and in the North and Eastern troops in the East is the best. It was brokered by Chief Obafemi Awolowo as an aftermath of Northern soldiers attacking Easterners in the west during the counter coup of 1966. It is that sort of arrangement that the country must return to and it will lead to the immediate breakup of the country. Once the country breaks up, people will seize control of their lands and develop it under a competitive atmosphere. Nobody will leave their land undeveloped.

with income tax will most probably have a per capita income of around 30 thousand dollars a year as the Chinese are efficient and serious about nation building even without income tax. It appears any nation can make it to become prosperous using income tax. All nations should make income tax the bedrock of their finances and all nations should have a policy of infinitely dividing labour to cater for every citizen.

The income tax is a way of apportioning a huge part of the Gross Domestic Product for central spending. It affords the creation of new jobs at the center and redistribution. What we are here for is redistribution. We are here to divide labour infinitely so that every citizen gets something to do and a taxable income to go with it. The infinite division of labour aids the redistribution of wealth. Income tax helps redistribution and infinite division of labour because without income tax, some jobs will not exist and there would be a glut in the economy. There would also have been several great depressions. Nations taking income tax create a lot of new wealth and are actually richer on a per capita basis than those who do not. A country like Brazil will have well over a trillion dollars by PPP annually to spend centrally if it took income tax. Income tax starts from wage regulation as you can only tax what you regulate. The Home Office will make sure the minimum wage is a living wage after taxation. A China...

WetinConsignMe:
The Biafra they had in mind did not include the oil fields
or that's why they later said the accord was "unworkable"


Shell-BP in the pursuit of commercially available petroleum found oil in Oloibiri, Nigeria in 1956.

Other important oil wells discovered during the period were Afam and Bomu in Ogoni territory. Production of crude oil began in 1957 and in 1960, a total of 847,000 tonnes of crude oil was exported.

Towards the end of the 1950s, non-British firms were granted license to explore for oil: Mobil in 1955, Tenneco in 1960, Gulf Oil and later Chevron in 1961, Agip in 1962, and Elf in 1962.

Prior to the discovery of oil, Nigeria (like many other African countries) strongly relied on agricultural exports to other countries to supply their economy. Shell-BP discovered the oil at Oloibiri in the Niger Delta. The first oil field began production in 1958.[6]

Nigeria's Government was dependent on taxes

If it is hard work to gather evidence to get to where God is. then it must be 'soft work' to get to know who God is because those two kinds of are diametrically opposed kind of work, to find who created the universe and to find who created that one. If one is hardwork the other must be softwork. Beyond easy even if beyond human practicability. Part of being smart is knowing when you are beaten, knowing when something is indeterminable as against yet undeterminable. The age long argument of many in the atheistic science community is that something not determinable today might be determinable in the future like who created God but that is definitely untrue. And when i say God, it is not the Abrahamic God or Gods but the one before that.

WetinConsignMe:
Nope. Gowon had no hand in the release of Awo from Calabar. He only knew about it before the nation knew and announced it. Awo was released two days before Gowon took power and would have been in the west durring the coup if he hadn't rejected the plane sent to pick him. He was brought to Enugu to see Ojukwu before he finnally left for Lagos.

Why is it not public knowledge as in announced on the news?

Vivere:
Thank you, oh!! These people were raised on a diet of propaganda, so what can one expect? They seem to forget that everyone can read and draw their own conclusions, from what was written in black & white.

Awo was released by Gowon with the cooperation of Ojukwu, I think we can agree on that being the ONLY thing they cooperated on

WetinConsignMe:
The aim was to enbolden Awo and people in the west. Why else was Banjo of all people put in charge. And remember Banjo was in contact with elements in the west all through.

Read again:

"The activists feel that Awolowo missed the opportunity to bring the present conflict to close by coming to Ibadan and make a Western Declaration of Independence speech supported by Victor Banjo and his National Liberation Army.”

But then Banjo had his own agenda and western secession was not part of it!

You speak lightly of the incursion of strangers as a liberation army, no one would take that in their shoes! it was ordinary state creation that led to the civil war!