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dblackninja:
What if the person decides not to be a better person after reincarnation?? All I see is the same punishment recurring over & over & over.
What am trying to establish is that the 2 religions under review dishes out punishment to its followers albeit in a different form.
So I don't think you are under a good authority to say yours is good & the other bad. All I see are two ailments- where one is headache and the other stomach ache.

It is obviously like repeating a class or not but given enough time you will become Apeere. That is also the teaching in Buddhism

dblackninja:
Oh ok
A Christian will as well tell me that.
Reward->Desirable
Punishment->Unpleasant.

Dont Draw parallels between traditional theology and religion. They are poles apart. Reincarnation On Earth is to make you a better person. There Is Esan Or Karma For Everything You Do

dblackninja:
Oh I see. The punishment is returning back to earth & the reward is staying in heaven with Olodumare.
I wonder which one is more fun

Thanks, I now got something clear...
In Christianity, the reward is heaven & punishment is hell (or returning to the soil according to Jehovah W.)
& in Yoruba theology, reward=heaven; punishment=coming back to earth.

Of course to remain in heavem is more desirable as earth is a market place while heaven is home but if there is an assignment an Apeere or Buddha Can Be reincarnated on Earth

dblackninja:
Oh I see.. If I understood you correctly, it means that everyone will end up in heaven to give their accounts according to Yoruba theology.
Now I can imply that those that did good deeds will stay in that heaven with Olodumare. What will happen to those that did bad deeds??

They will keep returning to earth until they reach Apeere Just like the state of Nirvana In Buddhism. Everybody inching towards Apeere.

dblackninja:
Since there's no heaven and hell in traditional theology, what do you then mean by "saved"?

There Is heaven where Olodumare reigns in Yoruba Theology and we will all end up there to give account of how we spent our lives and only our good deeds can save us. thanks for your intelligent questions

dblackninja:
It might not have "hell" but I believe it punishes unbelievers as well. What happens when the people decide not to sacrifice to their gods anymore because they believe their bountiful harvest was from their toil and sweat rather than the gods?
Hmmm! I wonder the kind of punishment it will mete out..maybe you can take a pick for me.
Not to talk of the type of vengeance it will carry out if it's worshippers decide to introduce a foreign god & loose belief in it

If the Christian god dishes out punishment to both believers & unbelievers while claiming omnibenevolent & the traditional god[s] does so too, in its own way, while claiming to be a "fatherly gentleman", I then think we can conclude that both are the same, just have different styles/methods of execution.

In traditional theology, you dont need to believe anything to be saved. You are saved by your good works.

dblackninja:
Lol ! I can't help but laugh at the whole statement.
Anyway, what's the difference between your claim and that of the Christians?

Our God is not burning innocent people in hell for unbelief. we have only one law 'never initiate evil ever'. Are You Clear Now?

JuneOctober:
Why is it that the south are always fighting each other? Why the serious hate?

The Three Main Nations Are Somewhat Always At Loggerheads And That Will Turn To Healthy Competition When Nigeria Is Dissolved

Adebowale89:
your premises are invalidating your conclusion. the impression you have against Yoruba are just what u read online and what your people say among theirselves


my bro do JTB among Yoruba in regards to your claims and u will have a renew impression

the Time has come to split the country with intellectual power!

If You know people, you can divide this country easily. Consider the former sec gen of the commonwealth chief Emeka Anyaoku, Consider Ibrahim Agboola Gambari Fmr Nig Rep At UN etc. They Are on first name terms wt those who can split the country

Pecca:
So how do we achieve this Break-Up and subsequent Autonomy as postulated above as it is only the Biafrans that are visibly agitating for an independent nation today while others are on the fence, undecided?
Those who has the country at the jugular won't come to the table if the status quo remains. Those aggrieved with the present constitution of the country must take a stand and, now is the time to do that. The northern oligarchy is busy re-strategizing, testing the ground for soft spots and offering trojan horses to the gullible in a bid to sustain the rape on every sphere of this country. They have nothing to lose. They are sitting pretty as it is and won't budge unless goaded. We must take a stand and I suggest the APC-style (birds of strange feathers gathered just to fight a common enemy with no sharing formula in place: Get-them-of-office was the only end.

Not Only Biafra But Also Boko Haram, Then A Mild Agitation From The SW. BH is number one.

Religion Is used to cause unnecessary division amongst humanity

Statsocial:
Is the Niger delta a Federal capital territory for receiving 13% derivation What Lagos is asking for is 1% of its own VAT which it deserves just as much as ND deserves her own derivatives.
Never talk about spoon feeding and Lagos in the same sentence. As of now Lagos generates more income than it gets in federal allocation and still contributes about 40 billion VAT to the federal purse. No, Lagos is not being spoon fed but Lagos is spoon feeding others.

then fight for your VAT instead of asking for special status! but the VAT is from companies that produce for the whole nation not lagos alone where those coys are hqd. if Nigeria breaks up, those coys will open office hqs in other places in the east and north and pay vat there, meaning that VAT does not really belong to only lagos.

If Lagos were given a special status, the place will become a federal territory like Abuja, controlled by a federal minister. Mrs Oluremi Tinubu is at the forefront of the struggle for special status and hence more federal money for Lagos. My own opinion is that Lagos does not at this point need to be spoon fed anything. The Population of Lagos as inherited from Nigeria is enough for Lagos to generate revenue therefrom, before Nigeria is dissolved. No Need for special status or more federal monies for Lagos.

Budda is a person at the state of nirvana or perfection like Apeere in yoruba theology, buddhist worship the buddha

701ecilana:
But you are a Muslim who believes a pedophile is a holy prophet

You think only christian or muslim, but my theology is traditionalist

segunojo866:
sorry boss. Am an atheist

Atheism I see as a PTSD resulting from too much exposure to religion. if all you know is traditional theology, you probably wont be an atheist since the description of God is a fatherly gentleman and not a sadist with a hell.

segunojo866:
deist believe in God but don't believe in the supernatural.

I believe the supernatural is more densely populated than the natural or physical, so i am theist.

segunojo866:
are you a deist?

Whats The difference btx theist and deist?

CHANCEMAN:
Founded and own do not mean the same thing.

Nigerian Biz men should emulate sir Lawrence Omole by building coys that will outlast them. i think his son is still the chairman today.

701ecilana:
Clap for yourself for finding a bases for committing crimes everywhere in the world.

I Am not a christian whose future sins are forgiven by an extant 3rd party!

segunojo866:
but you know God Is an imaginary friend to Christians

Olodumare Is real enough, The Christians Are right that God Exists but they worship the wrong one who is a sadist burning people in hell for unbelief!,

segunojo866:
our traditional theologies worship idols. The atheist voice

Why Not worship idols, nature, ancestors etc for peace to reign? i am an aborisha, the directive of God to me is 'respect and worship everything'

kolaish:
I don't need to go through all that to know what is true. I was in Jerusalem 5 years ago and the evidence of Jesus christ is overwhelming. Beside that, I have personal relationship with the holy spirit and have seen/heard a lot of vision that has come to pass.

If I pray God always answer my prayer and on time. So, what misleading books do you want me to still go and read.

You are one of the people brainwashed by the bible just like the boko haram are brainwashed by the quran. i implore to sit right sir and surrender to God. There is God but not as described in the holy books!

segunojo866:
Honestly dear, there are so many agnostic in Nigeria, so am sure you will see an agnostic person easily but atheist are very few. Thanks

If not for religion ie christianity and islam, there would have been no atheists and agnostics. we all need to go back to our traditional theologies immediately.

kolaish:
Thank you and stay bless.

If you read study church history, the inquisition etc, you will realise that christianity got to its present position by sheer savagery. Islam Just copied.

kolaish:
With due respect, why don't you do the research and give me your findings. In that one account that you stated, Jesus reinstated the "cut ear" and admonish his disciple not to do such again. Did that not tell you that Jesus is never a violent being?

I am not suprised about your comments, because even when Jesus was alive, the Jews never accepted him. Even after his death and resurrection, they still try to cover up the truth. To follow Jesus is not compulsory for anyone but voluntary. You have your life to live and I have mine, but for me and my family JESUS IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR, ALL GLORY BE TO THE ALMIGHTY GOD.

I cant do that cos of my phone but trust me, the internet is filled with jewish accounts showing isa bin pantheras aka jesus for who he is.

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Is it a merger or an acquisition by IB Plc?

No Group is gaining. Think Of where lagos, ibadan etc will be tnday if we are run with the standard of say cote divoire

kolaish:
Can you give me just one example of any atrocity committed by Jesus or his disciple with their weapon (beside that his disciple that cut off one's ear when Jesus was about to be arrested, of which Jesus himself castigated the disciple for and restore the ear that was cut off back to the normal position)

That one account is enough. The Bible Does Not cover Jesus' History well, to know the full truth, research Jewish Historical Accounts.

kolaish:
NA WA FOR YOU O. PLEASE FIND OUT AND LET US KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE JESUS SLAP OR BEAT AT THE TEMPLE AND LET US KNOW. ANSWER: JESUS THROUGHOUT HIS LIFETIME NEVER RAISED HIS FINGER/HAND AGAINST ANYBODY. HE WAS SIMPLY ANNOYED THAT HIS FATHER'S HOUSE WAS CONVERTED FROM A HOUSE OF PRAYER TO A MARKET. HENCE, HE OVERTURNED ALL THE MERCHANDISE AND TELL THE SELLERS TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE TEMPLE.

IF U HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY RELIGION, PLEASE LEAVE CHRISTIANITY OUT OF IT.

Christianity is the first religion. They Are the first to base eternal life or salvation on the belief of impossible tales, then followed by islam. The Jews say jesus was a trouble maker and this is corroborated by the bible showing us that his follnwers go around armed to the teeth. They Were Thugs