₦airaland Forum

JaroMan:
Let's get something right. If you want to analyze a model, even with biased mind, try not to sound stupid.
North West has 7 states and the raked in N79.1B
South East has 5 states and the raked in N52B
North East has 6 states but raked in N42B
North Central including Abuja is 7 states and raked in N133B, while Abuja alone raked N69.1B. Now minus Abuja' s figure, North Central raked N64.2B.
This north central figure underlined what Lagos is to South West. But ostrich won't agree.
So you didn't have issues with the performances of 6 and 7 states against 5 states, but think 5 states are parasites.
You must be from South West. I'm not surprised.
Just yesterday, your Lagos senator, Olamilekan moved in the house that since crude oil have been found in Ogun, Bauchi, Osun, they should belong to NDDC. But he deliberately excluded Anambra who has been given oil producing status, simply because the state is in the East.
Your penchant to attach yourselves to north against South East is ridiculous. Because, this is a zone you all think has nothing to offer. But will need community effort to fight them, if I'm a contest of numbers.
Let's go back.
We're you not shocked Osun have more IGR than Anambra? Why? What are the economic indicators that validate this claim?
Currently, we know Osun is preparing to go to poll and the governor must be in the news for good reason. These are PR stunts.
Because, nothing on ground shows Osun is financially stronger than Anambra, even when Anambra is Osun creditor. Yes, Osun pays Anambra ROI every month. Go figure that.
On the part of Anambra, the governor under reported the IGR because he is working on the airport and international conference center. And he always said "I didn't borrow for these projects ". He actually didn't borrow, but meddled with the state IGR when the finance got depleted.
You may not agree with me. But I'm telling because I know.
Finally, South East zone is a peculiar zone. What works in South West will not work in South East. No wonder with little IGR, salaries are paid and massive projects are executed.
So face your wonderful region where the game is: the more you look the less you see.

KazikageSama:
CBN runs based on instructions from politicians and political office holders (believe it or not), it's hardly driven by data or fiscal or economic policies. Let me ask you a question, Barter by Flutter today still provide the same FX service on it's App and it's not limited by the CBN monthly $100 limit. You can buy forex there at card rate till now. Why do you think it's still operational? Why was it not sanctioned? Let's just say Agboola knows what he is doing.

KazikageSama:
YINMU!!!
CBN is freezing accounts not because the coys are guilty of anything but because almighty want to "investigate".
If Piggyvest steps on the wrong toes, CBN will do same to them all in the name of investigating.

Everything nha turn by turn, he go reach dem soon.

alizma:
What do you think is the population figure for Nigerians

alizma:
Population to feed-260,000,000
Farmers 3,000,000
257,000,000/3,000,000=86app.
So what you are saying is that each of the farmers should have been able to produce enough to feed 86 people and also feed themselves on daily basis and even have leftover/surplus.
Oga rethink, you still have opportunity to change your understanding

AlexBells:
Your assumptions while I respect it is not factual, south west is a traditional monarchy of multi kingdoms, approaching the aspect of a Mordern state is different, by tradition you are not a parliamentary people you are a monarchy, you can only think of the government system that can work given your history and in this case a parliamentary system can not work in Yorubaland you might think it should, well I don't think it can work whether by theory or practice.

First is the Ooni of Ife going to be head of State?, then you elect someone else to be the head of government, instead of that I would think the current state in the country shall be abolished and traditional kingdoms take over as states, where these kings can handle state police while the central structure handles the army, I can't really see a situation whereby the Ooni of Ife shall be the head of state while every other traditional rulers cede their authority to him that's how UK works.

Chill there are many reality that will unfold as these whole separation roots you will see many power shift and ideological shift dont think becuase Yorubas monarch are docile in big and complex Nigeria will mean they will remain docile in a smaller and homogenous Oduduwa Republic, the powers of these monarchs must be cut or you go the way of true monarchy.

Just don't shape the Republic now, evolve and be free first, even the temperaments of an average yoruba will change once you leave Nigeria to your own country you will become more responsible

AlexBells:
You keep putting words into my mouth, I never said South west shall be a parliamentary, i said south west shall be a unitary confederation with a constitution.

I also said you will assume that a socialist economy is the best for you until you practice it and swim in debt.

I said for a start there shall be much expected chaos and the first 50 years of statehood post Nigeria outht to be experimental.

So I don't know where you are picking your conclusion from, you are on the same school of thought of the people who has a certain outlook of their euphoric country like my fellow Igbos who pays little attention to pragmatism but believes and approach Biafra on the ground that Biafra will be a miracle.

AlexBells:
The greatest mistake South west made was running a socialist system in a capitalist Nigeria that's what stalled development in South West and you can attest to the fact that Lagos the most viable state in Nigeria and west is a capitalist economy.

I kept telling my Yoruba friends that Awolowo made a very great mistake, by instituting free education in the west and other free pecs, look resources are scarce and when you make education free you only mortgage the future.

Education materials are costly, teachers are expensive to keep and the resources is in the hands of the state, I know then it was western Nigeria and Later it could be western Nigerian Republic but the west does not have enough sophistication yet to run a socialist economy. Look at Russia, China is a pretender to be a communist state.

If you look very well, western Nigeria states have the highest debts in Southern Nigeria this grossly as a result of this socialist outlook to life and in a bid to make life a lot free citizens becomes too entitled.

Socialism is the hight of Succesful capitalism, it is a stage, you don't just jump to socialism if you do so at the long run you will be forced to jump back at capitalism and the circle continues, although countries like Luxembourg is not a socialist state their level of advancement makes available socialist atmosphere.

South West country or as a part of Nigeria should aspire for Capitalism maybe for the next 50 years, you don't just be a socialist country when you don't even have the capacity to produce shoes for up to 40% of your population, or you think the world is an extension of your socialist domain

AlexBells:
The future of South West economy for now is uncertain, first you will need a figure like the Sterlin of Russia a hard and revolutionary leader, of all the region south west has bigger job to do to get it right thankfully enough you have food that your populace can eat while the exceptional talents concentrate on solving the problem.

First you need to put China out of your borders by decongestion of Lagos of Igbos, this I believe should be through a memorandum of understanding with the Igbo country and you will have to forgo Lagos for good, by closing down lagos port and building a new port in Ondo.

Closing lagos port will have a riple effect and you will still need to barn some imports but that will put your economy and society into so much pressure it is expected.

Why open the ports in Ondo or Itsekiri, Ondo and Itsekiri will be the closest western port to the Igbos, the Igbos having a separate country which I doubt will not be Biafra that we know will have sea access but not enough for our import and export needs, we will make some western ports a port of call towards AlaIgbo abd there shall be joint initiatives in policing the waters.

This joint initiative will create a semblance of west African union closer to European union.

With Lagos put of the picture as an economic power but just a luxury state for the super rich, Ondo and Ibadan will pick up only then can you decide your type of economy, currently your economy is that of communist China.

You think Igbos are your problem but China is, it is only few countries that can overcome the temptation of China and there are willing Igbo traders available to be used by China.

I believe Igbo country will even readily work with you in decongestion of Lagos as far as you will import our finished goods and we import your food, other forms of both civilisation can thrive individually

AlexBells:
Now we can talk on this, South West used to be a part of Nigeria so there are things you guys have gotten accustomed to being in Nigeria and your monarch has gotten used to being weaker, the point remains that a pure parliament system can work for the Igbos but not the Yorubas.

Your kings are used to commanding an army traditionally and give these kings an inch and they will take a mile, Western Nigeria Republic will evolve to be more like a federation yet will call it a confederation.

Look these Yoruba kings are exceptionally powerful and if there is no constitution to strip them off some powers they can turn the parliament to power struggle, and Yoruba tradition is more sophisticated than that of England other UK kingdom, the British monarch can only be admired, adored and respected. But Yorubas and most African monarchs are also feared especially in the bases of spiritual repercussions on disobedience.

So it is not wise for Yorubas to adopt a full blown parliament system becuase the monarchs will decide a lot on who gets to the parliament from their kingdom and controlling the parliament by a monarchs let's say the Ooni or Alafin will be easier than controlling the entire people especially in a voting scenario.

The best thing is not a parliamentary system for western Nigerian Republic, a president or prime minister with more individual power is the thing that can absorb the power shock from your powerful kings, and if it fails and your kings begin to keep their army as it used to be, there lies much danger and with a parliament system it is very easy to do since the parliament itself is absolute.

So an Oba or groups of Oba can sponsor Bill's to make them return their army ofcourse that's what it used to be but only a well thought constitution can make that avoidable.

Bro just sit back and relax all these agitation give us Igbos Biafra or Yorubas Oduduwa and you shall find another 50 years chaos in these territories at which time people like us will just sit back and laugh again getting it right for a country is not simple that's why this trying time in Nigeria is expected.

AlexBells:
First of all, I did not say that it will be parliamentary, I said it will be a unitary confederation, a parliamentary system is about the absolute of the parliament with no strong constitution, I don't think the Yorubas are stupid to adopt the UK system in a whole it also got its flaws, it won't be a parliamentary system.

The UK has only one monarch, the UK is a Confederate kingdom not confederate kingdoms, you remember that the queen of England is also the queen of scotland, remember the Unification of the kingdom of Englabd and Scotland during the time of Marry the queen of scotlabd and Elizabeth the queen of England.

Yorubaland has more than 3 first class monarchs so there shall be a constitution, the parliament can not be absolute like seen in UK.

Then more power shall lie in the hand of an exceptional individual in Yorubaland to be known as the president or the prime minister just as seen in Germany

AlexBells:
Most likely a Unitary confederation like the UK, the ceremonial monarch and a prime minister which could also be referred to as president for familiarity sake

AlexBells:
No you don't have to bring any Koboko, the electoral collage even makes it more interesting, that's if you quite understand the electoral collage system, even the electoral college is an extension of exceptional individualism, where the individual public handles their voting responsibilities to even a more exceptional individuals to finalise for them, that's not team work that's narrowing up the individualism, don't make blind arguments, forget whether my fellow Igbos or your fellow Yorubas said what they said, they all have an Eldorado mental aspect of their people noting that's is usually holds little truth and usual Utopia

kingawothefirst:
Just because he picks his ministers does not mean he’s not working as a team. Actually it’s to ensure he functions well within the team structure. It’s imperative for the president to select ministers that he knows and works best with as a TEAM.

This is borderline insanity, you keep doubling down on your wrongness and falsehood. Heed to correction and be better for it.

fergie001:
SECTION 183
The Governor shall not, during the period when he holds office, hold any other Executive Office or paid employment in any capacity whatsoever.

Political Parties are Constitutionally-recognised entities.

Governors Forum is a Pressure Group. He is doing gra gra.....Buni will go.


To further buttress your point, NGF Chairman is an appendage office on the premise that you are a Governor and not open to the general public. Therefore it cannot be connoted to be a completely different office or an elective office.

olujastro:
So full operations is two trains per day from Lagos to Ibadan

Anyways, you can find the schedule for all trains in Nigeria on this website I built to provide easy information to everyone.

http://www.9jatrains.com

pricklewane:
Remi Tinubu is not Bianca that Igbos refuse to give ticket. You are worried about a woman defending her party while Abaribe as been in the senate for 16 years without a single project. Ikpeazu Ugwuayi are there looting the destiny of u, your born n unborn children away. You matter weak me O.

StaffofOrayan:
No thank you for the information?
You almost seem sad to learn something new!!!

Bobority:
Hello everyone. Is there any app like piggyvest but for usa residents? Or anyway one can save and invest money in the US. TIA

Penguin2:
U didn't make sense.

Penguin2:
Don't let Yemi Kale's stupid statistics deceive you about Southwest economy.

That would be living a lie.

Wake up dude.

And your claim of religious tolerance being reason for the bolstering economy of the West, assuming there was something like that, is erroneous because I can't remember when religious tolerance added to GDP of a state or contributed to IGR. The only thing it can breed is peace and I can't remember any crisis in the East due to religious intolerance.