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fellis: Whatever helps you sleep at night.

lol....whatever

ijawkid: He didn't have to bro...

All generations came from 1 man...

Ok??

Ask ur evolutionists why we are getting married instead.....


Why do atheists get married??

Why??

Just live like apes .......

The same reason everyone does. Exclusive companionship

ijawkid: No be you wey say u no go come do politics for 9ja because u dey fear ogboni men??

Fear fear boy.......

U wey dey fear juju....

Come 9ja come stay...

Ur always d 1 ranting all d way from the uk.....

Come here and rant........

I am not afraid of ogboni magic- it is fake

What I am afraid of is political thugs with guns

fellis: I modified that last post, you might want to read it again.

@Your last statement,
He broke the laws so he got the punishment. Yes, I support it.
Bite me.

"Bite me."

Words of a person that knows she is wrong but doesnt care.

bestbizever: WOMEN ARE PART OF THE MINISTRY. WHEN JESUS WAS ON EARTH, THERE ARE WOMEN THAT MINISTER TO HIM E.G MARY MAG. AND THE REST OF THEM CAN'T MENTION NOW. ALSO JESUS SAID IN MATT 28:19 "HE SAID GO YE" INTO THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL... THE YE THERE CAN BE ANYBODY THAT IS WILL TO GO. SO WOMEN HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS MEN TO DO THE WORK OF GOD... THANK YOU

Abeg. Jesus had all male disciples.

Think again

ayobase: It simply means u never understood the Bible RHEMALLY but LOGOLLY.
How do u get insights of the Bible when u read it like ''Nothing lasts forever''.
When u have the Holy Sprirt to interpret, no confusion!
Anybody can easily twist the Bible to suit him/herself!
Being an atheist is cowardly!

Lmao...


Rhemally, Deeper lifely nko?

ijawkid: Oh I aint on that level....

I aint afraid of nothing...

I culd live with u in d same house..........

You that has been ranting about occult and demons etc? Abeg commot for road!

ijawkid: I aint worried...

If u have an alternative as to how abraham would have married 1 who wasn't his sister please present it.....

Like I said there is no way abraham wuldnt have married some1 related to him....

Because they were closer to d time when d population of men on earth was small and closer to creation......

Simple alternative; God should have created more human beings. Is your guy that foolish?

ijawkid: The majority of russians that are racist are they christians??

Huh? And how does such an argument relate to the points I have made?

Are there not orthodox churches in Russia?

Da Mayor: I have always insisted that its not by force to be a Christian. If you want to "Follow", then be ready to submit to the doctrine. Paul (whom i suppose you believe to be the Apostle to the gentiles) categorically outlines the role of the women in the Church of Christ (1Chro14:34-36 and 1Tim2:11-14).
There is no ambiguity in these statements. No room for sentiments and logic. Women can certainly express the gifts of the spirit, but Authority (5 fold ministry of Apostle, Pastor, Evangelist, Teacher & Prophet) in the Church of Jesus Christ must be Man. Bishops and Deacons also refered to as "Husband of". Examples abound:

God referred to as HE
Angels referred to as HE
Levites all HE
Apostles all HE
Judas replaced by HE(and not Mary and co who were there) etc

Paul concludes:
"If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. BUT IF ANY MAN BE IGNORANT, LET HIM BE IGNORANT"...1Chor14:37-38

Sexist much?

ujchief: i never said u quoted the bible out of contex, i wouldnt give u the credit of a healthy arguement, what i said is 'u dont believe in God, yet u're passionately obsessive wiuh His word'. Read my post again, in ur quest to make fun of the bible, u're contradicting ur believe/unbelieve.
Being a catholic for 20 yrs doesnt add a star to ur atheist badge. Afterall, satan was a shareholder in heaven

How am I contradicting myself?

Explain the quote. Or if you dont like the quote, then how about this;

1 Timothy 2:12-15.

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

ayobase: NOPE!
''Go ye into the world and preach the good news''
Was Jesus talking to the men alone?

I dont know but I am certain that Jesus had only male disciples

ayobase: Good question!
[b]We should be able to discern btw God's commands and Paul's ethical commands according to I Corinthians 7:10 and 7:12.
[/b]With Corinth history ''Corinthians worshipped money and things it could purchase.
The city was a sprawling open-air market. They had their means of inflating prices when a ship wrecked.
Corinthians was second to Rome with a population of about 700,000.
In a nutshel, Corinth was a so civilised city where u can find parade of Roman diplomats and dignitaries.''
Corinthins treated women like slaves and properties.
In their days, women sitting with men discussing was abnormal, likewise in Church, and this was already bringing chaos in the church. Women questioning the authority of men in the church.
Like u behave like Roman, when in Rome and like Nigerian when in Nigeria.
Remember this ''Corinth looming as the city that was least likely to convert with crazy cults and new religions springing up there quickly, Paul was able to work in Corinth for 18months, and to everyone's surprise, the church he founded became one of the largest in the first century. But several years later, he heard reports that the church, true to its city's heritage, had broken out in a series of spritual ills.''
For Paul to solve chaos in church's meetings, 'he' simply gave the advice(command) that the women should stay clear.
U can ask question about anything when alone with ur husband.
But, we here is Nigeria, we dont treat our women like slaves....so, my wife, mount the stage and preach the word of God!

load of rubbish. How does it solve the problem by telling women to be silent in church?


Furthermore, you are saying that Paul was not writing God's word

DoctorMcgruff: 1.now i realise your not reading what i am writing and your being a troll,study the bible and read up on the women of corinth, then you would know its not baseless
2.I stated that my point was in chapter 12, where paul points out the gifts of the spirit which both men and women can have one of which is prophecy and knowledge...let me put this in much simpler terms (ALL CAN GET GIFTS OF SPIRIT,ALL ARE IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE CHURCH, ALL(INCLUDING WOMEN) CAN PROPHESY
3.I never said paul had schizo, YOU said that, i basically pointed out that Pauls verse in chapter 11 was specifically for the women of corinth who were doing something wrong at the time. Albeit his statement was harsh and comes off as sexist, it was clearly misinterpreted by people who like to do selective reading

You keep bearing false witness about the women of Corinth. lol. Keep breaking God's commandments .

Also, Paul is contradicting himself. So how do we reconcile this?

Furthermore, there are bible verses that Show that Pauls verse on the silence of women was not just exclusive;

1 Timothy 2:12-15.

I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

ujchief: u dont believe in God, yet u're passionately obsessive with His word. Confused breed of lost souls! Worse than an infidel

huh? Was a catholic for a long time before becoming an atheist. Go figure.


You are the one confused by your pastors who select only the good parts of the bible for you to swallow . You cant even explain the simple verse I put forward and so, you claim that it is out of context and I'm making fun of the bible

fellis: I never denied anything. I asked you what you were talking about because I made that statement years ago and didn't remember it.
How did you dig that thing up anyway? Did you go through my posts?
Ok, let me try to trace the pattern this argument has been following again.

So, do you still support punishment for the indonesian atheist?

DoctorMcgruff: 1st corinthians 12: 7-14, Paul talks about how the church is like a Body and the Body needs all parts of itself to work properly, he was indicating that everyone in a church is important and in fact needed in order for the church to function properly, this destroys the entire notion of women remaining silent in the church which would mean they are useless and not needed.....(connect back to the gifts of the spirit)

Following a body analogy, a body has parts that are not necessary for survival nails, hair etc.

DoctorMcgruff: By mistake i said chapter 11, i meant chapter 12, let me end this. People tend to overlook a key important passage after chapter 11. When Paul was talking about spiritual gifts one of which is verse 8
8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; and and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another {various} kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues.

Paul is basically stating that we ALL, Men and Women and people of all races can receive these gifts of God, one of which is prophecy,which once again askes the question why would paul say women should remain silent? when he is stating that they can receive the gift of prophesy It once again only proves that he was speicfially addressing the women of the church of corinth who were doing something wrong

Put the bible quotes forward. Dont be intellectually lazy.


You are doing three things;
-making a baseless accusation against the corinthian women, of which your solution of silence will not solve anthing and is still sexist
-implying that Paul was schizophrenic and contradicting himself
-parts of the bible are irrelevant to us in the moder day

ujchief: Read the first 2 responses this post got, thats just what it needed. I'm suprised that people are responding to logicboy, a confused atheist who pulls up bible verses to make fun of it. And as usual, since nairaland is run by atheist and muslims, it makes frontpage, just to add more fun to it.
Dont respond to an atheist whose aim is to make fun of the holy book. Do not be equally yoked with unbelievers, thus says the bible.
I'm out!

You can't explain the verse and so you attack the messenger. You sound frustrated and defeated.

fellis: What in heaven's name are you talking about?

Nice....perfect denial

Its current association with Islam is primarily due to the writings of the Ayatollah Khomeini; who is the iranian religious leader and former president of Iran. Ayatollah Khomeini is not an infallable authority within all of Islam.
Thighing was not drawn out of any Islamic laws, saying that it is, is a lie spread by anti-Islamic people.

https://www.nairaland.com/292747/re-thighing-islam

Do you feel good calling Khomeini anti-islamic?

ijawkid: It means in a congregation a woman shuldnt take d lead where men are....

hierarchy of headship demands that......

Women can't be overseers,heading congregation assignments....those responsibilities are meant for d men.....

In 1timothy 2:11-13 paul gives d reason why.....

11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full
submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to
teach or to assume authority over a man;[b]
she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed
first, then Eve...

That is Gods arrangement......

Read also 1 corinthians 11;3

If those principles are nt upheld definitly dis-array and indecency would be d result....

This is really disturbing! Ijawkid, do you really support this?

ijawkid: It means in a congregation a woman shuldnt take d lead where men are....

hierarchy of headship demands that......

Women can't be overseers,heading congregation assignments....those responsibilities are meant for d men.....

In 1timothy 2:11-13 paul gives d reason why.....

11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full
submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to
teach or to assume authority over a man;[b]
she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed
first, then Eve...

That is Gods arrangement......

Read also 1 corinthians 11;3

If those principles are nt upheld definitly dis-array and indecency would be d result....

So you support this sexism? Has Buzugee been teaching you?


Is this what our God likes? Hmm? That women should be silent?

Mankind8: The Mesage was meant for those days Corintian women alone, not All women. THEY believed to be more Than there Husband. They were proud, lascivious, heartened and thought they were equal or even superior than MEN. Read it from verses above. That was why APOSTLE PAUL was giving thore Corintian Wemen His personal openion to corintian Women and they duty as wifes. GO AND READ BIBLE HISTORY BASIS. Thanks to other pastor around hereThe Mesage was meant for those days Corintian women alone, not All women. THEY believed to be more Than there Husband. They were proud, lascivious, heartened and thought they were equal or even superior than MEN. Read it from verses above. That was why APOSTLE PAUL was giving thore Corintian Wemen His personal openion to corintian Women and they duty as wifes. GO AND READ BIBLE HISTORY BASIS. Thanks to other pastor around hereThe Mesage was meant for those days Corintian women alone, not All women. THEY believed to be more Than there Husband. They were proud, lascivious, heartened and thought they were equal or even superior than MEN. Read it from verses above. That was why APOSTLE PAUL was giving thore Corintian Wemen His personal openion to corintian Women and they duty as wifes. GO AND READ BIBLE HISTORY BASIS. Thanks to other pastor around here. Pls dont Answer what You dnt knw here. GOD is WATCHING U. deep/born again Christian are in best place to Contribut

Even if what you say is true; sexism in the form of censorship is not the answer to unruly women.

Where is your proof for this accusation of the Corinthian women?

DoctorMcgruff: So answer me this, why would paul in chapter 11 say women should be free to speak and church then turn back and say they should be silent?

Please, put the bible quote first.

fellis: Now you take to insulting me?
Where have I done what Alexander Aan did? Show me the place. Or provide proof, since you atheists are fond of proofs.

What did you say about khomeini ajatollah? Hmm? What would happen to you if you said so in Iran?


You were being immoral and I stated it. I did not insult you. Dont play the victim after supporting the punishment of an innocent man

edicolove: Lol. Typical atheists. Make short conclusions without coherence. You can feel air? What do you feel? Is it oxygen or hydrogen or CO2? You still falling in the same trap. You are quoting what you were taught! Lol. That's not evidence, that's faith. DNA tests? By who? How do you know they are right? Did you do the test yourself? What makes you think the machine is right? Back to faith. Atoms seen by microscope? How are you even sure the microscope is not giving you distorted images of what ever you are trying to view. You just pick up an object that you were told can see atoms and you believed them? You my friend are a great man of faith!

In reality, following your question, there is nothing like evidence for anything. Do you know the colors of objects you see right now depends on the type of light reflecting on them?

You even believe theories from people like galileo who lived thousands of years ago? You are really tough man.

You contradict yourself when you ask for an authority to verify the bible because there is no authority that can verify the many science books that you read. Its all subjective. And in many cases very contradictory but you still believe them anyhow. Man is a spirit and has a spiritual sense. If you allow it, it will guide you to truth. If you ignore it and deny it, you will limit yourself to the physical senses. Man exist in two worlds. The spiritual and the physical. You can live and sense things in the spiritual just like you can in the physical. That you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it isn't real!

Your post is full of nonsense. I will not argue with someone that is arguing against the existence of Dna, Air (oxygen or carbon dioxide) or atoms. There are things that aree too silly to partake in. Sorry.


When you have proof of your God call me.

DoctorMcgruff: Its really easy to blow that verse out of proportion because it is very in your face and precise, like i stated earlier and the other guy there was something much more to it. First he was addressing the women of the church in corinth, not ALL women. Secondly they were doing something wrong at the time. Most likely misbehaving and he letting them specifically know what they should do

Do not bear false witness against the Corinthian women. Back up your statements.


The verse is not blown out of proportion. Telling women to be silent in church is not right in any scenario.

oloriooko: If they are silent how then will they pray?

pray in silence!

DoctorMcgruff: Another reason why the bible should not be taken so literal Paul has already indicated that women can pray and prophesy in church (chapter 11), and a worship service includes two or three people prophesying in turn (14:29-32). This means that it is permissible for women to have formal speaking roles in the church. Paul was apparently forbidding some other type of speech. Just as he did not allow tongue-speakers or prophets to speak out of turn, he did not want women to speak out of turn, saying things in such a way that they were breaking social customs about what is appropriate.

Remix from DJ DoctorMcgruff.

Paul clearly said that women should be silent in church. He never said "silent in some cases". Your verses do not support your point. Try again

Mankind8: The Mesage was meant for the Corintian women who believed to be more Than there Husband. The were proud, heartened and thought the were equal or supirior. That was why ApOSTle Paul was giving them His personal openion to corintian Women and duty. GO AND READ BIBLE HISTORY BASIS. Thanks to other pastor around here

Please, dont bear false witness against the Corinthian women.


Even if what you say is true, telling women to be silent in church is still foolish and not the solution. Epic fail#

ifihearam: So why do women head churches nowadays na??

Because christianity is fragmented.....catholics dont like women bishops or popes. Anglicans have women priests etc

Sean lenux: Go by what is in the bible, women should not be allowed to preach or lead any service in church. Its against the scriptures. If they must participate, it should be through their husband. May God increase us in knowledge.

lol.....not suprised