₦airaland Forum

donnie:
Agreed, widescale hypnotism has already taken place... Thanks to CNN and other MSM. And I do not expect anything different from our very inept Federal government. If they are not borrowing money, they're copying something irrelevant somewhere else.
To you and your fellows.

Ebola was the real deal, not this mockery of science you call a pandemic.
That was the actual treatment for the disease and it angered those championing this drive for a global reset. Now they have returned to the lab to produce different variants and all what not, plus more media lies.

If the FG decides to mandate it go challenge them in court and test your legal prowess.

All the drugs you have been willingly swallowing from birth till now was not enough to kill you they needed to manufacture a crises just for you because you o so special. LMAO!

Truthwords:
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Really, are you aware that mainstream media is seriously covering up the number of deaths that have occurred due to the the evil vaccines?. Did you just say statistically insignificant.?. Even on social media, the vaccines victims are being surpressed. I used to belong to a group on Facebook known as Covid vaccines victims, that group hit a whooping 10 million members in one month. It was a group filled with relatives of people who have died or have been paralysed due to the vax. Facebook took the group down. Are you aware that there is serious protest going on in Canada, France, UK, Australia, New Zealand etc as we speak against the vaccines but mainstream media is covering it up ?. Before you talk to me about statistics, ask yourself, who are the people drawing up these so called statistics. Do you think they will tell you the truth. Why are you not talking about the other consequences. Nicki minaj cousin took the vax and his scrotum swelled up, now he is completely impotent. Why are they fighting against a group of honest doctors known as coalition against Covid_19 vaccines. These are made up of American doctors, Chinese, British, Spanish, French, Australian, Japanese etc who have come out to let the world know that they will never be a part of this vaccines hoax. My brother in these days that we live in. Ask a lot of deep questions.

Check out this link. Even nairaland is fighting me for this thread, that's why i don't update it regularly :
https://www.nairaland.com/6481982/covid-19-vaccine-victims-compilation

The amount of misinformation you people dole out is astonishing. The Nicki Minaj you are quoting was debunked by the country's health minister and FYI it was not her cousin she claimed but her cousin's friend. That is the kind of anecdote people telling tall tales give. My mother's uncle's second cousin's brother in law, my daddy's friends barber. In this day and age of unfettered access to information why would anyone choose to believe 20th hand sources of information if not the gullible and those susceptible to being duped.

Doctors like that Trump favourite who claimed demons can impregnate you in dreams? Are those the kind of doctors any reasonable person should be listening to.

Is the covid-19 vaccine a vaccination against death?

Image123:
You should add that you can't create a cell not to talk of a human being, neither do you own anyone in the same sense as the Creator.

Except when the god tells you to buy people or orders you to kill them. Tell me all those people today who claim that the god ordered them to kill their children did they do good? Eg this woman: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deanna_Laney_murders or this man: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_List

donnie:
I don't know, it depends on individual company policies or contract signed. If the employer doesn't pressure his people to take vaccines they don't need, he will not be needing to pay anyone's bills.
And I'm no fool to think that they're interested in treating, curing or eradicating covid-19. They are only interested in creating sufficient panic and ensuring that the numbers go up, whether by hook or by crook. Besides, is it not malaria medications so-called infected people were receiving for covid-19 in Nigeria?

Any decent office that will mandate you to take vaccine is most likely already providing health coverage. FG is contemplating mandating it for employees and they are already providing health care coverage.

The fact is Covid-19 presents an unprecedented challenge, what our response should be is do whatever is possible to reduce any harm that can arise. We took extra precautions with Ebola and that wasn't even as wide spread.

They used malaria drugs because they were treating the symptoms which is standard palliative care were no specific treatment yet exists.

Maestro21:
If they are sacked for not taking a jab they will win in court and they will win big.

As for your jab, good to know JWits are as ignorant as I always knew they are.

Humor me, does your jab prevent you from getting COVID19? Does it stop you from spreading it? So why are you so proud of your decision?

They'll lose. Most likely the judge will even throw out the case, a waste of judicial process.

donnie:
So employees loose all thier rights once they resume work with you? The policy regarding married couples is already standing and every employee knows it. But you don't say it's okay and then later decide to fire the employee without consequences.

Do you think an employer should pay the bills of an employee who requires treatment for Covid-19?

Truthwords:
It sometimes gives me joy to know that so many people who got the vaccines are dead. The population of stupid people who don't listen to warnings must reduce

You must be dreaming. The number of people who have died after getting the vaccine is statistically insignificant compared to the efficacy of prevention against serious effects of the disease. Chickenpox is rare these days because it is practically mandated if you want your child to attend school so why this sudden recalcitrance over vaccines.

donnie:
Then don't force it, period.

Employers have the right to set employment conditions, it's like you contesting why an employer says married couples cannot work in the same office, it's a reasonable and legal condition.

donnie:
The contract you signed at employment will determine that. You probably took a fitness test and were deemed fit before you resumed work. Your argument therefore is that you neither trust the so-called vaccines nor the employer's judgement in insisting that you take it, especially as the vaccine manufactures have refused to guarantee it's efficacy and indemnify recipients.
How can I take something for which the manufacturers are protected by law should anything go wrong?

You employment is not guaranteed on the basis that you were fit at the time of employment, it is predicated on you remaining fit. No employer wants to take on the liability of an unhealthy employee indefinitely, that's why they have set number of days within which you can claim illness per year and a time limit within which you can be off work on hospital admission.

No drug manufacturer indemnifies you for taking their drug, it is absurd to make such a demand.

Take this to any court, I guarantee your loss.

Modernizer:
I won't bore you all with a long write up.

I'm ready to settle down, actually I needed to settle down like yesterday. Problem is, I don't make friends easily and hooking up is even tougher. I don't trust easily.

So I'm talking with this girl that checks all my boxes ( quite a rare feat for my high expectations), but for one thing...she is evidently a choleric. I know because I'm one myself.

The hot temper, impetuousness, some bossy-ness, independent mindedness, low empathy, high ambition...all those tell tale choleric features give it away.

Now I know cholerics are advised to get their opposites say phlegmatic for relationship purposes, but I want to ask the house: can I a hot tempered man cope with a hot tempered woman?
Any people with experience on this here?
Can both of us with low empathy really be compatible?

The adverse statistics coming out of marriage these days scares the sh..t out of me. I don't want any of it.

Should I drop this girl? Or can it work?

Sorry oo...it may sound small but that's my own challenge.

Cc newbornmacho, Ahnie, kestolove

It can work if you both put in the work. FYI all that phlegmatic and choleric jazz is bullshit, people's behaviours are always on a spectrum not a narrowly defined label. You and your intended have traits that can make a relationship work but you need to actively be harnessing those traits. If you rely on those narrow definitions to define your capabilities then you will constantly butt heads but if you allow yourself be the best you can be you will make a go of it. There are no perfect humans or partnerships only people determined to make things beautiful. To be fair it's easier for some than others but that is not the only criteria for success, all of them need active determination to become the dream they envision.

donnie:
This is the advice from a pastor and I agree with him....

If you are told to take the vaccine or resign and you do not want to take the vaccine, what you do is, do not panic and do not resign. Let them sack you because you refused to vaccinate then head for the court. Sue them for every dime they have.
You have a right to determine what goes into your body. If they are so confident of what they are forcing you to put into your body, then let the manufacturer indemnify it. They should guarantee its safety and efficiency.

Don't waste your time trying to litigate it, you'll loose big time. I'll tell you why for free, every employer has the right to determine employment conditions within the ambit of what is legal and it is very legal to set health and fitness levels for employees. Most large organisations direct their employees to do complete physicals at competent hospitals every year, do you think its for the fun of it?

Image123:
It's comparatively good to die as a baby than go to hell as an adult. You don't have the right to kill a fellow human.

That's what I said, it is only good when your god kills babies enmass or when he orders babies to be killed enmass.

The best retelling of the story of Adam and Eden I've heard:
https://www.tiktok.com/video/6991244256283200773/

CC: Budaatum

judemurphy:
what part of your subconscious get involves in dreams when you sleep

I didn’t know the subconscious has parts so I'll just say all of it.

Image123:
They'll go to Heaven, you'll be a murderer. He created and owns them, you don't. i don't have the right to come and kill your chickens for you, stating that i can fry good chicken. They don't belong to me despite being a fellow human being that can equally purchase and rear chicken. You can likely have other plans for your chickens than me killing them because i saw you kill some last Christmas.

So it is only good when your god kills them.

Image123:
Oh, good. Anytime He deems comparatively good as to them going to hell.

And if I choose to follow his footsteps in that it would be good? Or it is only good because it was done by your god?

Image123:
This is a Greek Interlinear Bible, not exactly what i referred to. i referred to the early manuscripts in which the Bible was written. The language and Bible scholars that copied them, studied them and divided them saw the two verses on two different paragraphs, which indicates a separate line of thought. It's just an indication anyway, just like any chapter division.
The crown and real point is the understanding of the audience, both primary, secondary and tertiary audience to which the gospel is addressed. Like i showed, Peter and the other apostles were not confused or thinking Jesus must come again in their lifetime.

Can you explain this one:

Revelation 1:7
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen

Was it not an expectation that Jesus was coming in the lifetime of those who killed him?

Image123:
Depends on who is doing this killing, you?

No your god.

judemurphy:
But you believe in supernatural

No I don't.

Hismasterpiece:
Again, i did not mean to say or imply that the concept of God makes no sense to a non-believer. I said His actions are sometimes misunderstood by them and also by believers as well. And that is understandable, because a being like God obviously is on a higher intellectual plane than we are, and we naturally would have a hard time making sense of His doings.

Also, you atheists (which is what you claim to be, and i don't believe there is any true atheist) already have a bias against God. You already dislike God because you don't understand why He does what He does, so you view God through the lens of that bias and are not willing to accept the truth about Him.

Also, when you say i always have an excuse for God, you make it seem as if your interpretation of God's actions is right but those of believers are just mere excuses in order to paint God in a bad light and that's not true. Again, because of you bias against God, you have chosen not to be open-minded concerning Him and therefore reject any truth concerning Him.

The god concept doesn’t make sense, you just believe even if you have to twist what is plainly written to make it fit reality. I don't have to paint your god concept in a bad light you guys do it well enough.

Hismasterpiece:
Atheist is the greek word 'a theos'. 'a' means no, 'theos' means God. It is the belief that there is no God.

Regardless of what you may say i still don't believe that atheists truly believe what they say they do.

My reason being that the Bible clearly states that God has revealed what may be known of Him to everyone, so that all are without excuse. The Bible also says that the sky declares the Glory of God. So God is clearly justified to throw an atheist into hell for eternity.

My intention is not to offend you, but just to state my belief in what the scripture says (and the scripture is infallible).

Well I guess you can have the conversation with yourself, I am out.

Hismasterpiece:
Creation was a one time event. It won't happen again.

It would have had the possibility of happening again if God hadn't given His creations the ability to procreate.

The simple answer to you question is this:- HIS WORD.

Then it is not obvious because you needed someone to tell you a god exists.

Hismasterpiece:
I actually can't get to my point because you haven't given me anything to work with. You haven't still told me about anything from your life which you know had to be God, because you obviously didn't have a hand in it.

You said salvation was an example, I believed I had salvation so what more do you need?

Tochex101:
A friend gifted me these fruits but I'm having a hard time identifying them......any help..?

The green one is likely a guava.

Hismasterpiece:
No i didn't say the God concept doesnt make sense to a non believer.

I said that His Ways.... His methods don't make sense to humans in general, whether believer or non believers.

The natural mind can't fully grasp God

I didn't say you said so I said you are tacitly admitting it and you are again repeating it so I don't know why you denied it in the first place. The god concept doesn't make sense but it must make some kind of sense to you because you always have an excuse for the god that you won't apply to anyone else.

Hismasterpiece:
Lol. Be not offendede, mate.


The truth bis the truth whether you like it or not.

The reason why i made the former statements is because of the reason why you said you're an atheist.

Based on what you told me, i couldn't help but deduce the fact that you're simply just angry with God.

Also, i don't believe anybody can be an atheist. The Bible teaches that God has revealed Himself to everyone, so no one is without excuse.

So God won't be unjust to send an atheist to hell because the atheist did know He existed.

I don't believe anybody can be an atheist. But i believe people can be agnostic, which is a more logical viewpoint.

Also, it is logically impossible to be an atheist. You know why? Because atheist means 'no God'.

In order for you to say that such a being exists, you would have to have all knowledge. Which you obviously don't

But i can say that there is a God, not because i have all knowledge, but because i know Him.

I speak to Him and He speaks to me.

Atheist doesn't mean "no god" as you are claiming. Atheist means without god which in my case means I without belief in god but if you want to persist in saying you know my mind better than me, you can have a conversation with yourself. Imagine if I came to you saying you don't really believe in a god and insist that I am right and that you are only pretending how would you feel?

Hismasterpiece:
You did. Up until you rejected it. The gift is by trusting and remains with those who keep on trusting.

Can you get to your point now.

Hismasterpiece:
Well, creation was a one time event. Everything that needed to be created were created at the beginning so God won't be doing any creating anymore.

However, He has enabled His creations to reproduce after their kind, thus eliminating the need for further creation.

The question is how are you able to arrive at the conclusion that the universe is a result of the actions of the god since you have not seen him create anything?

budaatum:
We are watching the development of the effect of the redpill he took while he forgets he'll be judged for judging.

LMAO!

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not under observation and query it is the women who are.

LoL, so tone deaf.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not bias but Observation and Query!

Of course, we are observing your misogyny unfold which we will soon query.

MaxInDHouse:
They don't need money for anything because we take care of all their needs each member of the bethel homes including the Governing Body are given a token amount to buy things they want that's why you can't see any of them having costly possessions.
For your information, most of them don't have children so nobody is expected to inherit their properties therefore all their time, energy are given to the Organization!
Some of them have sold everything they heard to support the Watchtower, why haven't you seen one person out of all the exJWs who are out there desperately looking for what to say against them PRESENT anything incriminating about them?
Nobody can come out and say this is what Mr A or Mr B has acquired through the Organization, all what they're saying is the Organization buy or sell properties belonging to who?
My friend, this is God's Organization so there's nothing anybody can find incriminating against us that's why they're referring to us as CULT just as Jewish religious leaders in the first century said about our Master Lord and King Jesus Christ when they can't find anything incriminating against him! Matthew 10:22-25

So you JWs contribute money to an organisation that is overseen by 8 people who decide what to do with the money including how much they spend on themselves. How are you now different from the people you call smart atheists?