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SAAF Rooivalk escorting Oryx in the DRC.

Botswana SF's Jankel Fox Long Range Patrol Vehicles (LRPV) in Mozambique.

shadowprimezero:
Whats up with the metal frame on the RDRV?

kabe1:
I think it's for climbing, breaching.

Yep

Odunayaw:
Truly a utility vehicle

True application of the phrase "modular". 6/7 different ways in which it can be outfitted.

Nemesis4you:
Somehow I don't think there is a single soldier who u have met till date to arrive at the said conclusion

BREAKING:

Algeria cuts diplomatic ties with Morocco. History will judge all those members of the AU who accepted bribes to betray the Sahrawi Republic and people.

BREAKING:

Algeria cuts diplomatic ties with Morocco. History will judge all those members of the AU who accepted bribes to betray the Sahrawi Republic and people.

Somehow I don't think there is a single soldier who will miss the INSAS.

https://theprint.in/defence/india-inks-deal-with-russia-to-immediately-procure-70000-latest-ak-rifles-off-the-shelf/718827/

lionel4power:
According to Military Africa database of defense companies in Africa
# South Africa has 47 defense companies.
# Nigeria has 19.
# Egypt has 35
# Morocco has 28 while
# Algeria has 23.

Here's the source here https://military.africa/african-defense-industry/

Sorry Lionel, what's your source for the SA info?
This is what the National Defence Industry Council of SA says in the 2020 Defence Industry Strategy:

"Employment has dropped from some 130 000 employees in 3000 companies in 1990 (9% of manufacturing employment and 10% of manufacturing companies), to some 15 000 employees in some 120 companies;"

Some unpalatable truths in there, but a comprehensive warts and all look at the industry. For anyone else interested, here's the report:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwieqe7yjsfyAhXPgVwKHewYDCkQFnoECCAQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dod.mil.za%2Fndic%2FDocument%2FNDIC%2520Defence%2520Industry%2520Strategy%25202020%2520-%2520Part%2520One.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3_CJdYFpJpcrd9N_PzaUN6

kabe1:
It's hard to say if it's the same.

However contractor patrol vessels do not bear a Nigerian navy pennant.

The use of that pennant denotes Nigerian Navy ownership, not just operation.
For example, the 7 or so 35m Sentinels delivered by Paramount Naval Systems for commercial Nigerian clients, all use the MV pennant. I'm not sure but I think some of them are crewed by NN personnel, yet retain MV.

kabe1:
I knew the visits were quite unusual.

They all visited Navy headquarters to drop tender documents.

Surely the NN would be looking at better specced OPVs of the same Chinese type you already operate?
That's just me thinking out loud for 2 reasons:
1) Ease of logistics;
2) pretend to open it up to competition to leverage better deal out of the Chinese.

Nobody can claim not to have been warned!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCNZN3v2l0

Nemesis4you:
Anyways a tucano crashed in Tajikistan after it ran out of fuel due to denial of permission to land . Thankfully both pilots survived with injuries

I was expecting a lot more pilots to abscond with their aircraft to neighbouring countries, fully laden with family members of course.
Just like the South Vietnamese.

Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan President who has apparently just fled to Tajikistan (which was invaded by the Taliban and AQ fraternity during its 1990s civil war) writing for the Los Angeles Times in an article appearing in The York Dispatch of 16 February 1989.

Lurker4Long:
The Fall of Saigon, the sequel.

Pic 1 : 1975

Pic 2&3: 2021

Only thing I'll say: the long history of the USA picking the losing side, continues unabated.

The Fall of Saigon, the sequel.

Only a matter of time before Afghan pilots cram family members onto aircraft, and fly them to neighbouring countries.

Kabe1?
Factual response?
Or chest puffing peacocking all you got?

kabe1:
Really that's a huge KwaZulu natal confidence you got going on.

With all the looting, HIV/aids, world's worst murder rate, world's worst inequality, Africa's worst unemployment rate........ I'll leave you to it.

All those coffin looters in South-Africa would have a thing or two different from what you're saying.

Ohh, look at you! Googling worst SA stats. Including inaccurate figures at this point in time. Be that as it may.

I'd still love for you to show me where South Africans obsess over Nigeria, Rwanda or any other African country, as you claimed.

Lurker4Long:

This is a revelation to me. I'd love for you to refer me to any credible South African site that obsesses over a single African country.

I'm on Nairaland because my country disregards the rest of the continent. Hell, South Africans, black and white, say, "I'm going to Africa", when traveling to any other country on the continent.

What's this obsessing you're talking about? I seriously would love to interact with compatriots who actually take the rest of our continent that seriously.

Kabe1
Someone just reminded me that yes, some Saffers do obsess about supremacy over other African countries, in football. So disregard sports sites when citing places where I can find this obsessions amongst South Africans.

kabe1:
What's with South-Africa obsession with Rwanda. It used to be Nigeria & South-Africa, and no one else. why throw Rwanda into the mix, you're making us jealous

This is a revelation to me. I'd love for you to refer me to any credible South African site that obsesses over a single African country.

I'm on Nairaland because my country disregards the rest of the continent. Hell, South Africans, black and white, say, "I'm going to Africa", when traveling to any other country on the continent.

What's this obsessing you're talking about? I seriously would love to interact with compatriots who actually take the rest of our continent that seriously.

GreenandGold:
While in the issue of "Rwanda's military campaign" in Mozambique. We all know that Paul Kagame is there just for the PR show. Their military onslaught last week was nothing besides a PR show. See why:

This is a joint military venture between African countries in a country in need. The campaign should be coordinated under a single command like all multinational military operations. Rwanda knows this because it's part of Amani Africa II training and agreements.
So, Rwanda decided to act alone while countries were deploying their troops in order to gain some PR. In reality, they didn't do a dent on the enemy besides displaying to everyone that they're there to boost Kagame's ego.

I'd also like to disagree with the "DefenceWeb" article which says the deployment was sluggish. Countries were doing their long term deployment assessments. This military operation will last for years. The area of operation is 3 times the size of Israel and it's one big jungle. It's going to be a very slow fight.


So what's next? The insurgents will melt into the jungles, they'll resort to guerrilla warfare. They'll be attacking military targets and then vanish. They'll attack the infrastructure and vanish, they'll kidnap civilians and vanish again. They'll recruit more to join their fight, they'll use the existence of foreign troops as a tool to radicalise and recruit more youngsters.

The war will eventually have to go to the deep muddy jungles where the cameras and APCs won't go. The world will lose interest before it could be won.

Repost pic of the SASFB Recce;

I don't blame Kagame so much. None of this would've happened without the corrupt and venal Felipe Nyusi of Mozambique. Nyusi was asked by SADC about a year ago for a political, social, economic and military plan to deal with the insurgency in Cabo Delgado. What did Nyusi do?
He presented SADC with a shopping list of military equipment he needed.
Nothing about political, social and economic plans to address the legitimate grievances of people in Cabo.
And lest we forget, his home province. But people from his region in the interior of the province have been partaking of the illegal economic activity in rubies, heroin smuggling and unproven- arms dealing with the insurgents on the coast.

SADC was well aware of all these dynamics, and Palma provided the leverage they needed to force him to play ball.
Now comes the part where I blame Kagame: as past chairman of the AU and with a proficient intelligence service, Kagame knew all this. What's he playing at?

The biggest culprit is my own country though: SA knows exactly which benefits from the criminal enterprise in Cabo. We know why the Mozambican govt pulled out of the naval patrol agreement when they found out we were also sending submarines out there.

We are the 4th biggest investor in the gas fields after France, Italy and the USA, yet haven't been as assertive.

Zuma was a ruralitarian, and SA's global outlook was always going to diminish with him in charge; Ramaphosa is too timid in getting us back to where we were under Mbeki in 2007.

Odunayaw:
What rifle is with the man on the left?

An R1 that has gone through the loving hands of the armourers at the SF Supply Unit.

shadowprimezero:
Seriously, whats up with the SANDF suddenly using AK's so much? Is the R-4 now deficient somehow?

As rocketZA explains, it's not sudden. Go back to all the old photos of SF in Angola, you'll see them using AKs. Many reasons:
1) if a small team is doing reconnaissance behind enemy lines, should they get into a contact, using same equipment as enemy will temporarily prevent enemy from immediately identifying who they fought against; no R5 shell casings to id them as Saffers, buying the small team precious time to escape and evade; this is why SF has to master proficiency in foreign weapons, as they're expected to use what the enemy uses;

2) 7.62 has better penetration than 5.56 out in the bush;

3) this is frowned upon on account of booby traps, but in a desperate situation, you can also scavenge for more ammo from dead enemies.

All of this applies to SF only; regular troops use R4s.

SA Special Forces, on deployment in Mozambique.

SA Special Forces, on deployment in Mozambique.

kabe1:
Is the report saying Rwanda did not eliminate 72 terrorists as claimed?

A few things to set the scene:
Sala da Paz is an NGO funded by and close to the governing party FRELIMO. So it carries some credibility, in as far as government sources and thinking is concerned.

On to the claim, the FADM (MOZ Army) generals are saying Rwandans are claiming credit for:
1) joint actions with the Moz Army as being Rwanda alone;
2) inflating the numbers killed; and
3) not acknowledging that some towns were taken without a fight, after the insurgents simply melted away into the bush.

I personally am less concerned with the veracity of the claims. Far dangerous, down the line, is what this reveals about the continuing internal fights within the upper echelons of the Moz govt, ruling party and security services.

I posted about the different commands and the deadly rivalry within Mozambique's security services.
Now this.
As I said, "too many people in high positions in Mozambique are making too much money through illegal activities in Cabo Delgado province".