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Members of 2 SAI on patrol in the DRC...

Just a day at the beach.

Rooikat with various guns.

Pic 1: the Rooikat in service with the 76mm;

Pic 2: Rooikat with 105mm, intended for export;

Pic 3: rooikat with experimental auto-loading 120mm.

Hennynitan:
Why is there a CCTV attached to it?

SerikinGamo:
You, an individual made a statement and you're trying to lump AFRICANS, 54+ countries, over a billion people into your individual opinion..it makes no sense

Hear! Hear!

nemesis8u:
First thought best to ignore , but then what the heck best rescue science and technology for the last time lol...

jln115:
Yip that whole contract was fraudulent

Yea, Defenceweb broke the story in September 2019, so I was surprised to see it on the other thread as some new revelation.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/denel-fails-to-deliver-on-r230-million-deal-with-chad/

shadowprimezero:
SANDF FOF Ex Golfino

From the same Exercise Golfino, which wasn't just SA, but all SADC countries with Special Forces units.

shadowprimezero:
My mistake. Thank you.

No problem, mate. None of us can get it right every time.

shadowprimezero:
SANDF elite Force Intervention Battalion in CAR

Those are normal troops from 2 South African Infantry (2SAI) Battalion deployed with the FIB in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Odunayaw:
Are you new to nairaland mate? We have different set of people, a few are given to kak spewing. The antipathy isn't a general thing no?

Precisely because I have been lurking here for a long time, I know the antipathy isn't a general thing. That's why I very carefully didn't tar everyone with the same brush, but very deliberately said "some people".

Now, I've observed the chest-puffing nonsense which deserves to be ignored; but I'm bewildered when people who didn't partake in such - and from I expect better - excrete same.

When people who've always evinced a better informed perspective suddenly spew uninformed rubbish, one is entitled to ask for the reasoning behind the opinion, no?
I'd rather be called naive than establish people's motivations.

P.S. [kak spewing]: we'll make a Saffa out of you yet!

Can someone please explain to me the antagonism against South Africa, expressed by some in this thread?
I follow about 30 military sites around the world - mostly based in countries which buy SA defence hardware - and all run all sorts of stories about SA.
But it is mostly here that I read uninformed antipathy.

For example: Nigeria bought about 40 REVA APCs and neglected to include on-going and future maintenance and spare parts in the final contract. Those vehicles have been run to the ground. Ordinarily the fault would be abscribed to the buyer, but I've seen instances where the manufacturer is being blamed.

Never mind that REVA APCs are still going and performing superbly in Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Egypt, Thailand, UAE, Iraqi Kurdistan, Equatorial Guinea and various US police SWAT teams.

So what's the carping really about?

Some of the nonsense spewed on here, though.

kikuyu1:
Its still useful imo, but the Mwari is more of an anti poaching/ border security platform than true tactical AC with its limited payload.

Six hard points (1 200kg) on the Mwari vs five (1 500kg) on the Tucano, for example.
Am not indulging in the folly of straight comparisons; just illustrating my befuddlement at limited payload.

Odunayaw:
We can set up like Brigade/Battalion recon teams/platoons. They'd recon routes up at least 25km from the base, doing as many 7 days in the field.

However, for the known danger lands, I wonder why they're not using SF guys to shift the balance. A 2month 'small offensive' of SF doing harassing attacks in the enemy's rear. Keeping them unbalanced

Redolent of the FireForce concept developed and put to devastating effect in my part of our continent. I gather you're a scholar of militaria and therefore au fait with the tactic.

kikuyu1:
Finally,the first cleansheet twin turbo attack plane since the OV 10 came out in the late 60s.

The TAV,Tactical Air Vehicle is the product of Icarus Aerospace,an outfit established only in 2016 in Quebec.


https://www.icarus-aerospace.com/tactical-air-vehicle-tav/



Ofc,this is all on paper. If it were me I'd have a pair of double barrelled 23mm on each wing capable of -5 degree depression and a centreline turret mounted double barrelled 30mm,180 degree capable slaved to a gymbal mounted electro optical sight. All in all a nice package,though I see nothing on price which should be 10-12 mn$. I can't think why this didn't come out sooner!

Edit: I'd have gone for a side by side cockpit. Easier cross communication under the stress of live fire.
Btw,nemesis8u, are your HAL guys too tied up do their own indig version? In a WORLD of COIN and LICs this is just what the doctor ordered!
Fyi max speed is almost 700 kph! Hard to hit in a low level pass with a BMG.

Compare with OV 10 with a centreline turret upon which I'd stick a 30mm recoil mitigation measures permitting . Is it just me or.....

Pains me that Paramount wasted 2 years in court shenanigans and now this Icarus will eat Mwari's lunch!

nemesis8u:


What has denel got to do here

Mahindra had a JV named DLSI with BAE systems which developed the above MPV (2010)

At that time BAE systems had a South African subsidiary known as Land Systems OMC (2004) and later renamed as BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa who provided consultancy/technology as per BAE systems work share in the DLSI JV. Testing was done at their facilities in SA. Plus some components were sourced at that time from BAE systems SA.

Later Mahindra bought out the shares of BAE systems in the DLSI JV along with the rights (2013) , much before BAE systems sold OMC to denel (2015).

And also denel was blacklisted till 2018.

Thought Denel also got the rights when they bought back Land Systems SA. Wasn't aware Mahindra also bought the rights when buying out BAE.

nemesis8u:
Mahindra MRAP

Denel thanks them for the licence fees.

Malawi soldiers on patrol in the DRC, with Paramount Marauders.

Abohboy:
Nigeria will be the first country in Africa to develop a missile firing drone.

You might want to brush up your Google skills.

BeforeJuly:
are these thieves or terrorists?

Thieves.

The major problem with "discussions" on this thread is because proper definitions haven't been settled. People throw around concepts and talk past each other.

Some idiots still don't know to surrender when the SA Police Special Task Force is around!

Gauteng police responded to a hostage situation this morning

Police in the early hours of this morning were alerted to a hostage situation and shooting at the International Pentecost Holiness Church in Zuurbekom.

Since their arrival at the scene around 03h00, police have up to this point arrested about 30 suspects and seized more than 25 firearms.

Five fatalities are confirmed. The scene is still active with SAPS Hostage Negotiators, the TRT, Special Task Force, Air Support and the SANDF on the ground.

Kikuyu1 and others: here's to more socking it to Jean Fraude!

SA passes Kenya the baton in the Security Council relay

France may be the biggest loser of this year's elections.
If Djibouti, a close French ally, had won, all the A3 [African 3 members] would have been Francophonie members. Kenya’s position on the council won’t necessarily share French interests in Africa.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-06-22-sa-passes-kenya-the-baton-in-the-security-council-relay/?utm_source=homepagify#gsc.tab=0

SAAF Rooivalk playing in the snow.

SA Police Service Special Task Force.

Members of SANDF 1 Parachute Battalion constituted as a QRF in the DRC.

Lovely photo of Ugandan soldiers in Somalia with 3 SA-made APCs: Ivema Gila, ICP Reva and Denel Casspir.

SA Special Forces - Heavy Weapons Course

Pic 1: 2004

Pic 2: 2007