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WaffenSS:
You don't wanna know where we find your girls.

When the men in my society have a craving for some quickie, they know the sort of girls to acquire.

Buy your girls a plate of food, a lousy phone, some airtime, or a few clothes and she's yours.

But when someone, such as yourself, tries even talking to one of our girls, she looks at you with the disdain reserved for something between a filthy swine and last night's pile of shiit.

do you know what I am? what u think Yoruba women of culture do all this?
you surely are a big slowpoke


one doesn't Need to be a slave to arabs to be descent. and ur girls upon the Hijab are still very loose. ..they fall easily as ur men don't know how to talk to a woman, as wives are forced into marriage with you. .they only fear their fathers and so resort to quickies in uncompleted buildings. .. they are numerous here in Abuja

ogbanje1:
Backward, primitive, rustic barbarians.

giving us a description of your miserable family?

WaffenSS:
...and that's the difference between us and you people.

You dont see our girls in italy or brazil, or humiliating themselves half naked in Nollywood or music videos. You dont see our girls as baby mamas. Or in baby factories. You dont find our girls in brothels or by the road side.

See? Our morals and yours...a world apart.

#DecentDressing

we find your girls in uncompleted buildings.
we find yourself girls in a house where their voices cannot be heard
we find your girls restricted from movement and exposure. ..being locked up all day
we find your girls running away from home
we find your girls cheating on their husbands

Hijab is not decent dressing. ..it is arab dressing, this is africa pls. ..enough of this mental slavery to arabs

henrydadon:
idiot do they kill each other during Halloween? am not saying we should condemn our culture and tradition...but plss we should stop killing ourself all in the name of tradition..we should take a cue from Asian country's...they have come a long way in modernising their culture and tradition..

omo ode. why not shut ur mouth and turn on ur brain?
what member of your family has ever been killed for culture sake?

Ahnn:
how is taking the holy communion canibalism.please dont mock God b4 he turns your daylight in2 utter darkness

u eat shit as a symbol of someone's flesh and blood. then say u don't do cannibalism so funny

missKiffy:
I hate this oro of a thing, barbaric to say the least, in this 21st century they still practice oro, sometimes i wonder what would have become of we Africans if not for Christianity and Islam, cos despite having these two religions, the voodoo and juju that Africans still do ehn, its baffling, then imagine if there was no religion at all

Kolo mental. Christianity and Islam that has killed everything good in Africa?

henrydadon:
u are a fool..people like u that won't make this country move forward..I just wish u can travel out of.Nigeria once and see how thing are been done...oro should be a thing of the past by now

hey you! I don't think you talking have ever travelled out. go to the western countries and witness Halloween. condemn that before coming to talk about Oro

Oladipupo22:
I am writing this on a very sad note...

I was in the village this past weekend to spend few days with my extended family and to my utmost surprise, I was informed that there is an existing "oro festival" going on, and that I must make it indoors by 4pm to say the least.

Coincidentally, I got to the village by 4:35pm all looking empty and deserted like a grave yard. Out of intuition, I decided to start looking ahead of me before I walk down any path.

Three paths away from my Father's House, I discovered the procession was just ahead of me, I ran for my dear life. Three things happened to me while I was running for my dear life:
1. I misplaced my phone, a massive Tecno Phantom 5
2. I misplaced my wallet
3. I had to forgo my luggaes which they now have in their possession ( Luckily, I had ONLY new wears I've not even tested in it).

Now, here's my grouse with this evil, barbaric, satanic and extinct act: After loosing my phone which I had used to take beautiful pictures because of its picture quality and suave, my games are also gone, Is this ORO of a thing supposed to be continued in this time and age?

My money is also gone! I will so miss my phone because of its become my perfect companion


PS: For the non-Yorubas who don't know what an oro festival is, it is basically a festival celebrated in Yoruba lands either after the death of an Oba or a special atonement is to be made in the land and it involves sacrificing Humans!

you are a complete bastard.
evil, satanic, barbaric... so Yoruba are all these things... omo ale oshi. extinct? are u just in the mood for fancy words? if oro is extinct, how come its still very much practiced? u see how dumb you are?

you were warned weren't you? u chose to disobey and u got what u deserve but want to exhume yourself from blame

human sacrifice? wat member of ur family has been used for this oro sacrifice?

oro at 4pm? what town?

FOLYKAZE:
Bros everyone know what a myth and figure of speech is. They both are body of story and convey a message but one entails false, imaginary and fantasy stories while the other entails allegory, parable, non-literal and metaphoric truth.

Example of myth is the popular belief that monsters live in the market and trade with human. We all know there is no monster walking with it head in the market. The whole story is imaginary and mythical. No substance of truth or verificable evidence for any of mythical story. It has a synonmys which are fable, fabrications,, tales, fantasy, legend and folklores. Antonyms of myth is truth, verity, etc. From the definition, synonmys and antonmys, we can conclude myth is the samething as opposite of truth.

However, figure of speech contain substance of truth, verificable fact which can be tested and examined. Figure of speech is a figurative language which can be a special repetition, arrangement or omission of words with literal meaning, or a phrase with a specialized meaning not based on the literal meaning of the words. Similes and metaphor and personification are very much alike. They are descibe without diluting the truth but giving it a clearer and understandable picture.

Myth is plain and literal while figure of speech is not.

Now lets bring these lots into Ifa corpus and stories. Ifa account cannot be myth because Orunmila will not tell a lie but will rather express itself in a symbolic and metaphoric manner.

Old time myth have been debunked, destroyed and thrown into trash bin by almighty science. Though myth is a popular belief but can never stand in the face of truth and fact. Figure of speech in it own case will.

The popular belief and myths that states earth is flat has been trashed by fact. Didnt Ifa stated that Earth is spherical (Obiri l'aiye) and it is moving? Has the Yoruba account been trashed like mythical flat earth position of the bible?

You will need to deploy science and have intelligent capacity to decode Ifa. You will finally see for yourself that it contain truths and no lie is rolled up into it because Ifa is not myth but a figurative language of our intelligent ancestors who do better than Eistein.

to be honest. .i sometimes feel its pointless trying to get you to understand something. cus u don't want to accept you were mistaken. I don't know why I still try

If the Greeks called their stories mythology. .they must have known what "mythology" means" and it certainly didn't mean "lie" or "falsehood".
science still makes reference to greek mythology. ..jst look around planets are named after Roman names for Greek mythological characters, the hypothetical planetary-mass that collided with earth to form the moon is named after a greek mythical character Theia said to have birthed the moon(Selene). the Orion star constellation is named after a greek mythical character


calling mythology falsehood has nothing to do with science, Christians were the ones who picked a fist against the Greek classics as falsehood not scientists.

you will have to explain how orunmila going to heaven by climbing a palm tree is not mythology. how Obatala getting drunk before the earth was formed is not mythology but Chronos vomiting his children is mythology...isn't that double standards? who said Ifa lies? nobody here. what about the oracles of other people? Are Yorubas the only ones that use metaphor?

please take time to understand the word "mythology". Gaia, Zeus, Orion, Uranus etc are myths doesn't mean they are lies. they are just figurative. .and even the Greeks knew that

absoluteSuccess:
Killers of Cynthia met her on a faceless forum, already a threat to life has been made by your clique.

And you have dropped an alibi in the bolded, and in the past conversations of your ease for human sacrifice on a thread.

These are forensic enough, and you don't know the level of culpability you are init.

You can be traced, so don't deceive yourself. I know your spies

This is also filed.

As to your question on what the Akure girl has to do with it, that's your bait to obtain and verify the picture of who is to be shot.

ok, I hope you are done with this phase.
Can you make sense now and answer simple questions? why are you ashamed of what you posted seeing someone else post the same thing without connection to the middle-east? maybe you can start seeing how easy it is to link yoruba with any place on the planet.


"Adele", the singer is and "Bale" the footballer are all evidence of yoruba footprint in Britain...what do you say?

absoluteSuccess:
Happy celebration things o,

and

'sara fuye?'


To carry strong feelings like this for another man across the year means something.


It revealed something about your persona.


I'm happy for you. When you place my extreme imaginable beside your imaginable @ the bolded, what did you conclude on?


Sorrow blood and death.


A fool was actually using woman dp and sex to lure me to Akure on whatsapps.

Why not slit my throat online?

If not conforming to your opinions makes me st.upid: you forgot to seize the opportunity to share your pristine knowledge?


Mockery is knowledge.


You are still echoing my frames, the frame from a stupi.d person has pinned on your mind. Why not the foolproof of your knowledge?


Which of your personally conceived 'trademark knowledge' has stuck on anyone so far? But my stupidit.y stuck on you.


You can only scare fools with death and ridicules. Keep making me part of your problem you don't want to see again with gunshot.

I will always be here to be a big issue in your lives from sunrise to sunrise.

Awon eni buburu pelu ipinnu ibi won lojogbogbo.

ipin aise nii palaroka o,

gbogbo eni fenku, obaranka maa kawon da s'orun.

aadota odun loni, gboingboin loke mi.

akii gboku edan, akii gboku ile, akii gboku Oludumare.

Aonii gboku elemosho mi nigba ewe.

. when will you ever grow up and act ur adult age? all this whining for what?
eni buburu? eni alaroka? all that insult yet I didn't see answers to my question

this isn't a conspiracy against u, and u are nt even a part of my life why should you be a problem in it? damn! this is a faceless forum ejo.

btw wat has Akure and ur WhatsApp contacts got to do with this?

FOLYKAZE:
I wish to I can listen to the Odus.

However, I strongly disagree on your submission with regard to myth.

Myth is the opposite of truth. There is this verse from Ifa that goes thus; iri tiwili tiwili ni a fi aiye. This statement mean the earth was formed in dew dropplet like. This is basic fact as to planet formation.

Chameleon, snail, fowl and the likes are metaphoric elements used in explaining the creation story. Metaphor is more fatual than myth

pls familiarize yourself with the word mythology. even the Greeks called their stories mythology. .. etymological broken down to "Body of Stories" or "Study of Lores"

a story that already employs metaphors and symbolic personification is nothing but myth

FOLYKAZE:
Do you know any Odu Ifa that speaks about Gap theory (Ooday and Ooyelagbo)?

Not really but I'm aware Osa Ogunda and Ogbefun are the odu that talk about Oodaye and Ooyelagbo very well.

I also believe in the gap theory. ..I think yoruba have traditions relating to that

9jacrip:
Ta lo tun wi iru ohun iye?

www.nairaland.com/1331624/yoruba-origin-revisited/3


Abiriyamu is our father Abraham o
so is Ebora

tpiar:
Roman footprint perhaps?

Or maybe after.

Ccock is pure english. Papa is of Roman Influence

Still let's say, if going by absoluteSuccess, Who believes homophones are valuable resources to decoding yoruba origin. ..Yoruba must have been the ancient romans of old that settled in Britannia

absoluteSuccess:
Hello macof,

Happy new year.

Hope the going is good with you?

Wishing you all the best that the year can offer.

Stay blessed.

Ase.
Thank you.

however , I'm interested to know, why are you dodging?


if the yoruba word "Ebora" comes from "Deborah" as you said, why can't "Akuko" come from "Ccock"?

absoluteSuccess:
How do you establish who borrow from where?

You have a 'default tokunbo orientation'.

Akuko nd coc.k sound alike because both brits and Yoruba adopted onomatopoeic

kukadodo.

Papa is yoruba for grassland, why not papa meaning the same thing in both languges?

baba is father, so you can argue that baba is from father.

Both languages share homophone for dirty.

Did Yoruba learn of dirty from england.

I can't believe you didn't applaud the op. isn't this what you and metaphysic do?

every Yoruba word that sounds like a word of Afroasiatic languages must point to yoruba origin from the middle-east


why doesn't Akuko = Ccock and Baba = Papa not mean that Yoruba had footprint in the British Isles?


you are also guilty of the "tokunbo orientation" you accuse chowlade of. examine urself first

FOLYKAZE:
What are you saying Uncle?

I am not arguing contacts with you but that Ifa acknowledge other people who are not and share no history with Yoruba existence.



This man won push this matter for my head. Lol.

You are learned than I am. Oju e la n wo Baba.

Pangeae was centered in Africa. Reseach held that Man originated from Africa. The popular garden of Eden is said to be situated in Africa. Also, our creation story stated that origin of man started in Ile-ife, a location in Africa. Everything is centered on Africa. Africa is a very big landmass so the question is where exactly in Africa?.

We all know the origin of man Points Africa. Some said the exact location is Ethiopia. Yoruba creation account noted that Ife Oodaye is this place. Ile-Ife too is often refered to Oodaye but nevertheless, Oodaye is here in Africa. So we need to know if Oodaye is our Ile-ife in Osunsatet or somewhere in Ethiopia or other part of Africa.

The irony here though is that an initiate believing Ifa lied and Oodaye is myth.



Ya I know




myth is synonymous to lie and false tale.



I though Odi meji is Odu that tells the story of Eshu....

Are you then assuming Oduduwa who came down on a chain does not exist but the one lived in Ife, Oranmiyan father existed?

Are you creating division for what is true and false?

Do you think Ifa has ever lied?

No. if Oduduwa that came with a chain didn't exist then earth as it is today will not exist. I believe what 9jacrip is saying is that oduduwa here is a myth - which is a story important for traditions and rituals.
but doesn't mean things happened the way they are told in the myths ie. Where did Obatala see palm wine before the earth was formed? where did Akuko and snail shell come from? what about the Agemo that came to test the land?

Oduduwa - the myth - beat Obatala to the creation of Ife Oodaye
this myth either inspired the later naming of the two men who fought for the Crown in Ile-Ife or the myth was formed after the civil war between the two men

FOLYKAZE:
The whole arguement started with this comment from you:



I disagreed with that and stated Ifa acknowledge existence of other people.



Limit ke? I was thinking you will give me straight answer na.



Science is a body of knowledge.

Ifa is also a body of knowledge.

So no clear cut here.




I think we need to ask questions like this.

If I know what the answer is, I wouldnt have opened a thread for it.




lol.

Do not make me pick up dictionary



Myth

1. a traditional but unfounded story that gives the reason for a current custom, belief, or fact of nature

2. a false idea or belief

Synonyms: fable , legend , mythos

Related Words allegory , parable ; fabrication , fantasy ( also phantasy), fiction , figment , invention ; narrative , saga , story , tale , yarn



The Yoruba creation account is never a myth to me. I have never call it a myth just because it is not.



hmmm.

Ose-otura olugboun awo.

Thanks




I rather kil two birds with a stone



Maybe we need to stop using the word myth.

Now on a serious biz.

Ife is called 'Ibi Ojumo nti mo wa' meaning where the dawn starts from.

Do you think the sun rises here or let me say dawn starts first in Ile-ife?


This can help us

even ur definition of mythology describes the Oduduwa coming from the sky and Ife Oodaye as such - mythology
it is only useful for spiritual and ritual reference never history


btw it's not Ife Oodaye that was flooded. .. Ife Oodaye is only referenced as place of creation nothing more

12inches1:
How can you prove this? Also note that gun is a weapon. And Ogun is a orisa for iron and metal weapons like guns. My hypothesis is that Ogun through his smelting skills Ogun helped some Yoruba civilization win wars and industrialize.

prove wat? wat everybody knows and believes? . it's you - who's actually nt yoruba that needs to prove wat you're saying.



pls I meant "gun" a yoruba word for "long"
not "Gun" an English word for a firearm which is "ibon" in yoruba

9jacrip:
Egbon mi,

My question of Deji, Osemawe, Akure was woven into my first paragraph of the actual post.

Anyway,

Akure was founded by a supposed Ife princess whose beads a tiger tore.

Ondo, by Oduduwa's daughter or grandson's wife.

Owo, by Oduduwa's son from Iloro quarters.

Going by your input, are you saying since their establishments, they have been independent of each other and no kingdom attempted to pocket the other?

ondo was founded by a twin daughter of Alaafin Oluaso,

I'll like to know more about Owo, in the Ifa circle, Owo was founded by a son of orunmila
what can you say to that?

9jacrip:
I saw the emboldened in your list and it had me fascinated.

Can anyone shed light on the history of these thrones?

Atta, father for ancient Yoruba? I do not know really. How come it is just Igala using it and is Igala throne of Yoruba ancestry anyway?

the Igala throne is of jukun origin. .but I think 2 other dynasties existed before the current one, still using the title "Atta"

scholes0:
Do you think Atta could be a very old word for Father in Ancient Yoruba? Those Yoruba towns who have Atta as kings, will have t explain what it means.
Also, isn't it funny how Ebumawe of Ago Iwoye which is Ijebu, and Osemawe of Ondo have similar titles.
Quite a lot to explore in our history.

I don't think Atta is yoruba, old or otherwise, in Ekiti we say "Abba"
it's most said when greeting the elderly "Okun Abba"
Igala tongue may render it as "Atta"

what's the meaning of " Osemawe " and Ebumawe?

I'm also interested in the title " Lisa " used by the second in command to Obas in Ijebu, Owo, Akure, Ondo, Ilaje, Ikale. maybe it's short for "Olisa", and could be a dialectical rendition of " Orisa " like Olisa in Igbo language
we have "oliha" in Bini serving the same role

Linqsz:
By age not by her biological features.

Shut up you pedophile. an 11 year old is just starting puberty. . what's wrong with you people? you are all insane and don't deserve the lives you have. a grown female by physical features is not younger than 16. but emotionally and psychologically she's still a child and cannot handle a grown man, she's not even physically stable or strong enough to handle a man until her 20s

mrmoah:
[i][/i]naturally men get turned on upon seeing a half naked woman.this is so because men get moved by what they see.that is why we advocate for HIJAB..

so you get turned on by seeing old women with their breast uncovered?
even in the Arab world, rape is so high and they women still get blamed for being raped

this is africa, and not too long ago little children and old women move around topless.
young marriageable ladies show some flesh. ..but never did rape get to this level
Hijab will never protect you from being raped

BIGTinfotech:
Lol...don't sound too harsh.

harsh? someone goes (or plans to) into your 11 year old daughter and you advocate for his beheading - so that's harsh but being aroused by an 11 year old is not harsh?

kallmemrB:
sorry macof you entity adds a new meaning to foolishness...did he rape her Check ur dictionary for rape.....its seems ur home training is really lacking and u need a brain check cos fools like u find it really hard to comprehend simple english...check my first comment Read S-L-O-W-L-Y and digest then come back and drop a sensible post....

If quoting a LovePeddler of a lady gets u thru the night,then pls continue

Shut up you bastard pervert. rapists are perverts, and a man who can be sexually aroused by an 11 year old is a pervert and is capable of rape.
btw I'm not only pushing on the issue of rape but also pedophilia. .which this thread is about. obviously you are too damn stuupid to realize that I talked about pedophilia in the post you quoted.

cococandy doesn't seem like a LovePeddler, what's your deal with whores anyway? you call every woman that attacks pedophiles like you a LovePeddler, why?

kallmemrB:
I say amen to that....cos am from a Christian home and value morals....i want more daughters to always dress well and presentable not like whores


If you see nothing wrong in childs indecent dressing then ur family is doomed....call me all the names u want

But one thing is for sure,my kids will never be raped but keep encouraging ur kids to keep dressing like whores.. U shall reap what u sow

Christian home
the ones that rape and pervert most are those from christian homes


I guess ur grandmother was dressing like a LovePeddler when she was 11. cus apparently you don't know that in africa, our people don't mummify themselves in the name of clothing. ..Europeans and arabs came with the so called "descent clothing" and also came with rape and pedophilia.

I see children ran around with nothing but "Pata" if you know wat that means, I can't be turned on by such. you are in a serious mental problem to have issues with children and the clothes they wear

the way you get turned on by little girls is the same way ur daughters will turn on retarded men like you. ..who knows you may end up raping ur own daughters
if you ever catch them coming out of the bathroom with towels

toyinakomolafe:
If you read through my point, there was no place i said Ogoga established ikere, I only made references to those point, in history, there was no and there is no any record of Olukere being seen as an oba. have you ever wondered why Alakure is not the paramount ruler of Akure, where as that stool exists in Akure. Im not here to belittle any stool. Just to say our history the way it it and not to twist it. Thanks.

waoh! is there really An "alakure" different from the Deji? I've read something like that but I took it as a reference to Deji. ...There's Igbo Alakure a sacred forest for the seclusion of a new Deji so I assumed Alakure is another title like Ajaponda which the Deji also goes by

9jacrip:
Egbon e funny o LOL

But seriously, how can someone say such after saying Ife Oodaye is in the middle-east?

eleojo23 this is just brilliant. did you make this up yourself?

kallmemrB:
question for you is what's the first thing that pops into ur head when you see a lady half-naked walking around the street??

Mine : Cant she dress decent or cover up

What's urs??

respect her as a human being doing what isn't a criminal offense. I have never been turned on by a woman simply by her exposing her flesh. ..a man knows a beautiful woman by many other things than her exposed back or cleavage

a human being should respect another human being that has all the rights you have. .. I can Dress how I like so can she
Dressing got nothing to do with rape, you are a pervert that's why little flesh freaks u out. ..people like you will still rape a woman wearing long Hijab
you are not a man, as you have no control over your self