₦airaland Forum

Sealeddeal:
If this is true,the girl should be left alone.

mcee1:
did dis sound like forcing to u? For God sake dis girl is 17years. In south many 17years old girls are already baby mama's. So why d fuse Mtcheww.

you're both very stuupid

even if it's true she's 17. . . a 17 year old girl should be left alone? she's still a minor and can't make decisions for herself

mascot87:
We upright and reasonable Yoruba sons and daughters know that Fayose is a true bastard. He is not a Yoruba son, he is a Igbo boy. I have no apology whatsoever to anyone

If our governor fayose is not Yoruba but igbo then you must be a baboon
I have no apology whatsoever to you

Shymm3x:
In what century did the Ooni of Ife annex Epe?

A lot of you just distort history for no reason. For the Ooni of Ife to annex Epe, he must have annexed Ijebu kingdom. And the fact that throughout history, Ife never had an army that could even defend Ife and Ijebu warriors were the ones who protected Ife throughout all its wars, is enough to show that you don't even know what you're talking about.

Ife never annexed any kingdom. Even if it tried, it never had the army to pull it off. How many times did Owu sack Ife?

shymm3x

Ife had a strong culture and a powerful army, we all know Ogun became Ooni
where is there Ogun without an army?

Also ask, how did princes from Ife just settle in places and made themselves Kings? you think this happened without a powerful army that already had these places in the bag?

these Obas were meant to be like a viceroy...Infact strictly speaking with pure yoruba traditions; "Oba" is a title beneath the Ooni. ...he is Olofin not Oba, Oba was the title of the 13 heads within the Ife confederacy ie. Obatala, Obawinrin, Obalejugbe, Obajio etc before Oduduwa brought them under him

having all the princes leave Ife with their followers must have weakened the Ife army

agrowonder:
I think there is no longer racism in the world, oh, Italy na baba for racism. Balo can testify.

shebi Ghana begged him to play for them, Balotelli said no. .its Italy he wants so he should deal with the racism

I don't know why africans keep Going to racist countries to receive insults

Jadekitana:
You can imagine the rate at with conji be killing some guys! to say i'm disappointed is an understatement. I'v been friends with this guy for some months,he's been on my case and has agreed to give me all the time I need before we start dating.

I was on my own last night when he invited me to go take sharwarma somewhere around.
We were just gisting normally about life and next thing he said was he's getting really bored and there's a new place on the island he would like to take me to.

We got there, I noticed the bouncers were really fierce looking! I got scared and asked him why they had 6 hefty bouncers,he just laughed and said it's cos the place is new. He quickly paid for VIP and when they opened the door first thing I saw was a fair beautiful girl stark naked dancing holding a pole. There were about 10ladies or more completely naked, with guys having fun with them!

I didn't bother to proceed to the VIP, I left in annoyance, boarded a cab and deleted his number sharply.

A guy who takes a lady to a strip club to watch other naked ladies and probably partake in frolicking with them can never be serious in a relationship! Quote me anywhere.

that's great, kudos to you and kudos to the guy. ..at least he didn't hide his nature and how he likes to have fun before you two started dating, you gotta respect the sincerity

Goodboiyy:
Abeg ignore that 1 , This kind news they give him and he tribesmen Heart attack..

@Bolded, hope you nw get my point y i say ilaje re nt Yoruba ?.. Ilaje speaks the itsekiri language, Share similar festival, ilaje is edo influenced likewise itsekiri so whats the connection b/w Ilaje and Yoruba ?

nah bro. Ilaje is 100% yoruba.
1. their origin is Ile-Ife
2. they observe the veneration of yoruba deities from Ife, Itsekiri and Bini venerate yoruba deities too
3. their language is a Yoruboid language. ..in fact a dialect of yoruba language so is itsekiri
4. their Founder came from Ife and was in fact an Ooni

it doesn't take much more than this to be yoruba

of course Ilaje and itsekiri will have Edo influence, These are easternmost yoruba speakers on the edges of Edo cultural realm
but itsekiri culture is more indigenous plus ancestral (Ijebu) than extracted from Bini. Bini also learnt from Itsekiri and Ilaje. ..it was never a one way train

Creamish:
Its coming down from what it was ...datz some progress. When there is progress, acknowledge it. Were u hoping it'd get as bad as 500/$ by today?

I'm not seeing any progress o. .. My point is, what the Indian 'Fart' said about nigeria is mostly true.

Ecoterrorism:
please let's leave the dollar issue aside and wait for that Indian Fart to show his face

the only problem I really had with him was with trying to blame Sexual harassment on the victim. ...such stupidity. ...

daveson07:
U fall in love for a five week reltshp without eye contact or physical appearance,,is it only me or am hearing tinx? Oh gosh!

Girls can be desperate menh!

she's 35 na. at 35 you need to be desperate

young ladies, don't use your future husband and all good men out there as boyfriend - where there's no seriousness or commitment, cause your story MIGHT end up with the wrong man after desperation

Deltagiant:
I am surprise Yorubas are displaying this sort of forceful "attachment" and "grab" attitude to a tribe that was formed just 400 hundred years ago?

This is what Itshekiri nation had to say about their origin:

[b]"History of Itsekiri
The Itsekiri are a peculiar and unique people in the Nigerian Niger delta. They have inhabited their homeland, which now constitutes the three Warri Local Government Areas of Delta State, Nigeria, for centuries. The Itsekiri have rich traditional and cultural practices.

Itsekiri modern history dates from the late fifteenth century when the Itsekiri people adopted a prince from Benin Kingdom as their monarch. Prior to this time, Itsekiri lived independently in different communities that included Irigbo, Ureju, Omadino and Ugborodo. With the arrival of the prince and adoption of the monarchy. These communities coalesced to become a Kingdom. The current monarch is Ogiame Atuwatse II, who was crowned at an impressive ceremony in 1987.

History reveals that in several waves of migration before the 15th Century, and some a little later, groups from Igala in Nupe country came in through the creeks; Yoruba from ljebu-Ode, Akure and Owo found their way into parts of the Kingdom and a group from Aboh (Igbo) also came in. Some along the coast came in through Gulani/Amatu."[/b]
[url ]http://itsekiricanada.com/iwere_history.php [/url]

This wholesale acquiescence without recognizing other variables should stop already.

There's nothing wrong with being attached to a group of people. .southern Nigeria needs more attachments and less division.
even among yorubas we have our diversity. ...Itsekiri and Ilaje for example are so similiar that if Ilaje is yoruba I see no reason why itsekiri cannot be yoruba

Creamish:
For starters, $1 was N330 as at this morning. Get ur facts right. Cant be bothered to help u update ur knowledge on ur country. Datz ur headache. If u...at this stage in ur life...think the Indians own all the companies in Lagos, then ur case is beyond me.

He said Ladies dress like trash.. I don't have to be the OP to address that ignorant statement. He should go to indialand.com and spew his ignorance there.

$1=N330

and u are proud to say it. ..

xynerise:
Even when she is pregnant for you?

In a sane society, when a "girlfriend" is pregnant for you; she becomes your wife.

Kastonkastroll:
Look at how the disrespectful iyabo is smiling like a goat. Very shameless woman.

Anyway obasanjo is not a saint. He is directly the architect of our current problems in the country, if only he didn't imposed a clueless Jonathan as the VP of yar'adua, we won't be in this sorry state we are today. He brought a sick yar'adua who can be easily controlled by the cabal but death shattered his(obj) plans. Jonathan and his cronies did nothing for six good years aside from looting, looting and more looting. Ordinarily, an incumbent president is not supposed to lose an election in Africa, but bcuz of cluelessness and foolishness, jonathan was booted out.

so u really think nigeria's problems started with GEJ. when will u foolish apc thugs have sense?

dyn1800:
Awujale was never son of oduduwa check your historical fact sir......

sir, Awujale dynasty was founded by Ogboroganlada the Obanta, son of Oduduwa and Gborowo

meforyou1:
why do u like lying so terribly? Benin is senior to Ife

sir, there's no lie in what I say
if you know how bini is senior to ife pls talk let's discuss

bokohalal:
Hehe. I remember asking you to provide a 16th, 17th, even an 18th century map of West Africa with Oyo empire on it. You had produced a loud map of Africa made in the 21st century denoting Oyo.
I understand Yoruba dilemma. History of empire building is not on their side.
As for Yoruba kings hierarchy, the Odionwere of Benin Kingdom has answered. Others have joined in on the side of Benin. Any which way you look at it, Benin Empire and it's exploits are renowned, worldwide. Selling your own people to strangers does not make one an empire. Only in the pages of Yoruba history textbooks was Oyo made one.

And I provided the map. I also asked u to provide ur own map. let's see u provide a 16th- 18th century Map that expresses bini empire to be larger than Oyo


bini empire that was not as large as Oyo state nigeria?

the next thing you will say bini empire controlled all the land up till Europe, that you even gave white people Europe to settle . ...don't lie, I've heard bini people claim this


another weak attempt to save face. .. do you have proof that Oyo sold it's own people?

bokohalal:
I was done with this thead but to correct one grave error that Macof and Yoruba people make which goes to do further justice to the Edo argument.
Oranmiyan has consistently been said by the Binis to be the youngest of Oduduwa's children so much so that the people called him OMONOYAN. A term that is usually used, contemptuously or affectionately, of the last and most spoiled child in a family.

good for you. ..but just stop there before you start claiming Oranmiyan is a bini man called Omonoyan

bokohalal:
Yoruba greatness is due to its early foray into Western education. They even created the textbook Oyo empire whereas Benin Empire had exchanged ambassadors with European nations in the 17th century . Even today, a country's greatness and influence can be measured by the number of consular and cultural offices globally.
The number of non-Bini ethnic groups and places that claim founding by Benin is unrivaled. Only Egypt surpass Benin in that regard in our region.
Just go to a little corner and try think out how to whittle down Benin's greatness. Ife, Oyo, all of Yorubaland cannot come close to our historical achievement. Others have tried and died trying.
If Oba of Benin is Yoruba, then he is first. If he is not, leave Benin out of your miserable numbering . Count only Yoruba Obas.
And all I know about Ife begins with Ekaladerhan.

I've been reading ur shameful attempt to save ur face. Yorubas now created oyo empire only in text books?
we are only great because we had western education first?
damn! u Bini people have big inferiority complex. u actually think westerners are ur Gods and Lords and must look to them to determine Greatness. ..
look how he enlists exchange with European opportunists as greatness

what cultural offices do you have? Pls who ever talks of Bini asides art historians? art you learnt from Ife

YOU should have said Bini Surpassed Rome oshi nla


Oba of Benin is 3rd. ..deal with it!
ghost of Ekaladerhan. ..don't go and look for the grave of ur lost prince in Ughotun

bokohalal:
Does Macof know that his emotional tribal comments do not make sense?

If that doesn't make sense to you. then I question ur intelligence

opal4real:
Which Oduduwa do you know? The one from d sky with a cock,calabash n sand I guess? Lmao!

ode. there's two Oduduwa
one a myth describing the creation of earth...the one you're talking about in ur post
the second a king from one of the component communities of Ife...the one we should be talking about


Oduduwa got no origin from bini. .. tell us why he was nt buried in bini or why no reference was ever made to Bini. .. Or why Obaship in Yorubaland was not modeled after the Ogiso? at least the Obaship in bini is in many ways like that of Ife. .to show its Ife origin

Arch1:
I love young and dynamic monarchs like : Oba Saheed Elegushi of Ajah, Lagos; Oba Enitan Adeyeye Ogunwusi of Ife, Osun; and Emir Mohamed Sanusi of Kano. These are the kind of traditional leaders that we need

Oba elegushi seems to be everyone's favorite Oba

odepacy:
of what part you did not understand in what he replied to your question? Initial you said you don't understandd those words and you got the answer now, if I may ask, what are you trying to prove, ever since this Edo and yoruba issued came you guys it trying to fool youself. Please I beg you in the name of almighty God you guys stay off Edo state matter

I'm sorry but you are not okay. ..

opal4real:
You guys are contradicting yourselves.

Firstly, you claim The Oba of Benin cannot step into Ile-Ife and in this pix you guys are claiming he is visiting Ife to pay homage.

Ooni visiting Alake last month was to pay homage I guess?

If you really want to be educated on the history of Oduduwa read the Benin version.

learn about Oduduwa from Benin? when you folks know nothing about the man?
Ekaladerhan indeed

bokohalal:
Ego and owo are not Edo terms for money. The one, only and correct way of saying MONEY in Edo is IGHO.
IWINOSA= GOD'S HANDIWORK

IRENE= I HAVE COME

OSAIVBIE= GOD DOES NOT SLEEP

TWINS = IVINEVA

GRANDMOTHER = IYENOKHUA

FAMILY = EGBE ( USUALLY ), OGBE

MOTHER OF TWINS = IYE-IVINEVA

HOUSE = OWA

In grandmother, what exactly does the "nokhua" part of the word mean?

bokohalal:
I didn't see this thread earlier. I posted the explanation in another thread of the same title. Odia Ofeimun's conclusion is pure commonsense and infallible logic. Waiting for the Yoruba history professors to come and tell us who was Oranmiyan's first son.

. Ok, I hope you realize that Unknown to Bini traditions, Oranmiyan is actually Oduduwa's youngest child. .. he had elder siblings establish dynasties like the Alaketu, Olowu, Awujale, Ewi, Ila Orangun, Deji/Ajaponda, Olowo, Elekole, Ajero, Alara etc

so if Ranking is strictly by order of birth then Ila Orangun should come first as Oduduwa's first son, or maybe Olowu of Owu-Ipole as the first child (actually a grandchild) to receive a crown, or maybe Alaketu by being the son of Oduduwa's favorite wife, or by dynasty's strength it would go to Alaafin as head of the oyo empire

so come again on how omo n'oba n'edo is first among Obas

bokohalal:
I have tried my damned best to ignore your bigoted logic being spewed on several threads.
The pomp and pageantry, the power and influence of an Omon Oba over his subjects is unrivaled by Yoruba kings. There is no bullying. Oba Ewuakpe's story should be instructive enough to show the contract between the subjects and their king in Benin.
Do you really think, in your wildest imagination, to ever read of a Bini Oba fighting his Olori in the marketplace? There are kings and there are KINGS. OBA n ose Oba , reigns in Benin City.
By the way, why have you not commented on Odia Ofeimun's article on why the Oba of Benin is first among "Yoruba" Kings?

. Oba Ewuakpe was never dethroned. ..people simply avoided him and guess what? they all returned eventually...u should know that


btw there's nothing bigoted about my posts. ..so one Oba fights his Olori it becomes the "Oba" way to go? don't you remember he was dethroned for that

bokohalal:
Hehehehe! You dey mind the yeye OP.
Unlike any other Nigerian ethnicity, an Edo can NEVER fight against the Omon n' Oba. Hermaphrodite, you are not an EDO

that's the difference between Bini and yoruba people. while we both give divine attribute to the Obas, yorubas have reserved the right to "refuse bullying" from our leaders....that's why tyrants never have it easy in Yoruba history. . ..the same cannot be said of Bini who are stuck with a man as leader and have no say in what he does. Call it Master - slave relationship. ..this is the cause of the delusion that Omo n'oba n'edo is higher than other Obas like Alaafin and Ooni which is so far from the truth

gentleheart1:
Lol see this one who are you to categorize any Oba, an Oba that's not even Yoruba. Please face your front and categorize all your yeye Obas, count the respected bini Oba out of your debris.

. mumu. . the omo n'oba n'edo is of yoruba origin so the dynasty is counted among yoruba Obas. ..get that into ur dumb skull

Inferiority complex making binis so confused. ... u cannot deny Oranmiyan established the Oba dynasty for his son Eweka in Bini. ..so therefore that dynasty is yoruba property. ..denial is futile

bright007:
Son of a land grabber, I can see your stupidity is without inquiry and your reasoning capacity is inferior to that of an embryonic cockroach.
It is very obvious why you and your inferiority-overwhelmed south west kings wants to claim the Great Benin kingdom. One of the greatest kingdom to ever exist in Africa. But one thing is sure, you and your kings are on a futile mission.
One word of advice to the Alake with the diarrhea mouth, your inferior ooni and you, the online foot soldier. It would be a good course if you can channel at least ten percent of the energy used in this futile mission of claiming the Benin kingdom in freeing yourselves from the shackles and chains of slavery from the Arewa people. It is a common fact that the yorubas are cowards and wouldn't mind being slaves to the Hausas. This is exemplified in the current political scenario of the country where every region is currently uncomfortable with the current situation of things. But what do we get from the Yorubas, cowardice fused with slavery. Anything the Arewa people command, becomes your wish.
You can't come out and free yourself from the shackles of the Arewas yet you want to claim Benin which has been known as a great and fearless kingdom. We controlled everything around us, we ruled many Yoruba States and all your fake obas dear not utter any word of contempt without paying dearly for it. Thanks to the Europeans who made this country what it is today, the head of that your Alake would have been swaying left and right in a nearby shrine in obedience to the laws of simple harmonic motion.
Your ooni would have been languishing in prison.
Once again please use this energy to free yourself from your slavemasters.

ok, this one is Igbo .... only igbos talk shit like this
I wonder tho, why don't igbos talk about their history?

Ubenedictus:
I didnt say d dynasty, i said d stool. d oba of bini stool isnt from ife cos there were kings in bini b4 oranmiyan and oduduwa. but eko didnt have d said stool until bini princes came.
My words were wel chosen.

oga the dynasty is the issue here. ...the first reference is to the progenitor of the dynasty not first on the stool. .. go to Eko, Ologun Kutere is referenced almost daily

Oba of Benin dynasty is of Ife origin like yoruba Obas. ..simple! so we will continue to place omo n'oba n'edo as 3rd where he belongs. Bini people don't need to feel inferior to yorubas, yorubas aren't into supremacy battle with you. ..most yorubas admire and love Bini

mrDennis:
Bro I don't know which one was bigger but I know which one had more rep and that was the Benin kingdom .

Also Benin doesn't do fairytale or myths of people turning into rivers or thunder coming out of warriors mouths ... Also oyo tried to conquer Benin empire but failed woefully and had to relinquish sovereignty of what is believe is part of ondo today so as to appease the binis .

Also the Benin empire came into existence long before the oyo empire and stayed influential long after the demise of the oyo empire , infact oyo begged Benin to intervene when illorin seceeded and fulanis started attacking oyo via ilorin. But Benin declined to help.

Also present day Benin republic (then called dahomey). Was ruled at different periods by oyo empire and Benin empire YET they chose to be renamed as Benin rep... Why do u think?

Also incase you don't know Lagos island and smaller isolated islands were under the protection of Benin empire in return for payment of taxes , the word "EKO". Is a Benin word which we used to describe the territory.


But as for which one is BIGGER in landmass ... Omo bros me no know

You are really dumb. .. what culture doesn't have its folklores? stop saying nonsense. ..folklores make studying the civilization interesting and fun

1. ondo got nothing to do with what you're saying
2. Oyo began its imperial reign 1400 under Alaafin Kori, Bini began its in 1440 under Omo n'oba Ewuare...so please which began first?
3. Benin Republic has nothing to do with Bini. ...Bini empire did not extend past the edges of Eastern Yorubaland ie. Akoko, Ilaje, Itsekiri (if we count this as Yorubaland). Benin republic is named after the coastline used by Bini traders going to Kumasi....Like Biafra is named after the coastline used by the ancient Biafra


the entire landmass of Bini empire is not up to Oyo state, not to talk of the Entire Oyo empire

gentleheart1:
Liar what evidence do you have that Ogiamen was a Yoruba man, did you carry out a DNA test on him or are you just been stupid?

You need to answer my.question and you must enough of all the trash you have been writing, this is no longer about your Oduduwa you Yorubas claimed fell from the sky.

**** pls go improve ur skill of comprehension.

I said Ogiamien is the true ruler of Benin but the Omo n'oba n'edo (a yoruba descendant) buys the Ogiamien's right to rule...obviously you aren't Bini ****

mrDennis:
Bro I don't know which one was bigger but I know which one had more rep and that was the Benin kingdom .

Also Benin doesn't do fairytale or myths of people turning into rivers or thunder coming out of warriors mouths ... Also oyo tried to conquer Benin empire but failed woefully and had to relinquish sovereignty of what is believe is part of ondo today so as to appease the binis .

Also the Benin empire came into existence long before the oyo empire and stayed influential long after the demise of the oyo empire , infact oyo begged Benin to intervene when illorin seceeded and fulanis started attacking oyo via ilorin. But Benin declined to help.

Also present day Benin republic (then called dahomey). Was ruled at different periods by oyo empire and Benin empire YET they chose to be renamed as Benin rep... Why do u think?

Also incase you don't know Lagos island and smaller isolated islands were under the protection of Benin empire in return for payment of taxes , the word "EKO". Is a Benin word which we used to describe the territory.


But as for which one is BIGGER in landmass ... Omo bros me no know

**** what culture doesn't have its folklores? stop saying nonsense. ..folklores make studying the civilization interesting and fun

1. ondo got nothing to do with what you're saying
2. Benin Republic has nothing to do with Bini. ...Bini empire did not extend past the edges of Eastern Yorubaland. Benin republic is named after the coastline used by Bini traders....Like Biafra is named after the coastline used by the ancient Biafra


the entire landmass of Bini empire is not up to Oyo state, not to talk of the Entire Oyo empire

gentleheart1:
Liar what evidence do you have that Ogiamen was a Yoruba man, did you carry out a DNA test on him or are you just been stupid?

You need to answer my.question and you must enough of all the trash you have been writing, this is no longer about your Oduduwa you Yorubas claimed fell from the sky.

**** pls go improve ur skill of comprehension.

I said Ogiamien is the true ruler of Benin but the Omo n'oba n'edo (a yoruba descendant) buys the Ogiamien's right to rule...obviously you aren't Bini ****

gentleheart1:
have been reading your comments and I can see you rely on Yoruba version of Benin kingdom, I know your likes and I have met some of your historians who can't even defend some of the jargons they teach students.

I will rather stick to my history that has been consistent than accept your crappy upside down history.

Yoruba history is trash and inconsistent, so whatever you write here can never convince me because with a plate of ewedu and Amala you people can twist and sell your history.

Why not address my statement of Ogiamien selling his right to rule to the Oba of Benin (a yoruba son)

whether u like it or not All Obas at Benin are yoruba property....we gave them to ur people and they succeeded u wiping ur sorry assess to submission and servitude