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blueAgent:
The same god's of your fathers that were demanding their own for sacrifice. christainity is global becos of whiteman. even in asia countries and their lives are better. Afica is poor not becos we changed religeon rather it has been better. we are suffering becos of low IQ. that prophecy of the land of between nile and Euphrates. is yet to be fufilled but will happen at the end of this world .read your bible about the new jerulsalem

kindly provide evidence that the Gods of my father's demanded us for sacrifice? you still display this ignorance. ..stop listening to ur stuupid pastor who never tells the truth
exactly! christianity is a white man's religion. As Blacks we have no business with such religion that only attacks everything African and black...to be a christian is to hate ur own identity



better? don't make me consider u a big fool. look at the continent. .a sorry hell. Before Islam and christianity we built magnificent nations with advanced civilizations like Egypt, Kush, Nubia, Numidia, Aksum, Ghana, Oyo, Ife, Benin, Kongo, Zimbabwe. .. Africa got worse and still has worse to come until we flush the self hatred, ignorance and stupidity that these religions come with


look how you say things. ..when Yahweh promised Abraham there was nothing like new Jerusalem or end of the world attached to that. ..stop ur lies, are you a pastor? Cus I kno pastors lie without regret
do you think I'm gullible?

cruzita:
beauty with brain.Igbo girls making us proud since 12BC

There's nothing beautiful in what I see. Give her a dress less provocative and that so called beauty is gone

winner01:
why not relax and breathe.

. Why not make sense?

SaintHephzibah:
hope say no be for this God blessed Ibadan you dey worship that your nonsense ogunu

Wat pit did u crawl out from?

blueAgent:
He (God) never failed .the Children of Isreal got the land of cannan.(the land God promised Abraham), and drove out the inhabitants. they were to possess the land of cannan forever if only they served God.which was the condition but they failed. and God allowed the Assyrians to invade their land.
remember that Isreal was divide into two kingdoms northern and Southern kingdoms.

Lol. You are very ignorant. When did this Yahweh give the Hebrews the land he promised Abraham? Pls read Gen 15:18. Learn the size of the land between the Nile and Euphrates and tell me when Israel ever controlled the landmass

Lol. They failed? Same way Africans have failed by worshipping foreign gods? And bringing curses upon the land... Look at Africa since Christianity and Islam... A continent of failure. Learn from the bible at least that one thing.... Never turn against the God of ur father's house

Teempakguy:
i wouldn't say religion is evil. It has it's purposes.
It's just like meat. Or sugar. Only good in small quantites. Too much and the whole body breaks down.

Sir, when I talk about religion,,, I speak as someone who was born in it and managed to escape. It serves no purpose
Only the pastors gain economic and social power from their gullible congregation

Like we don't know Christianity is just a joke for economic and political relevance

religion for the dumb

Mufasa27:
That's is the ibadan you use to know, ibadan is now well organized and beautiful, although there still some places that are very bad and unkempt but we have improved sha.. And the brown roof you are talking used to be ibcity logo but not anymore

really, there's nothing wrong with Ibadan being known as a city of brown roofs. Those are houses that go back 1800s and early 1900s
let the igbos who like to verbally attack Ib city come and show us structures they built in the 1800s

good move. that market is usually very dirty and a total eyesore. And apparently igbos occupy the largest space of that market yet they say Yorubas are dirty

Descartes:
This is it. The main Ibadan city not the computer-generated images from Op

And what makes the op's images less Ibadan?

Olayinka8793:
Beautiful,I do not think or expect that the entire Ibadan will be as beutiful and modern as those parts in the pics posted above cos the city is soo big,even bigger than some states in Nigeria.
Kudos to OP.

Ibadan is larger than half of imo state.
Ibadan being over 3,000 sqkm is extremely large for a single city...about x2 the size of London

religion is evil. christianity, Islam etc are the worst things to have happened to humanity. .especially black africans

both religions have made us into mental slaves. ..worshipping dead jews and serving mythical outrageous "Gods", insulting our ancestors, abandoning our culture and traditions, taking away our pride as blacks and members of our various ethnic nations, the idea that everything foreign is better....these religions have destroyed our civilizations, turned us to people without direction. ..I mean if you need foreigners to tell you about your Creator and believe them over your own ancestors. .then you have a serious problem

winner01:
People no longer strive to know God, Religion is enough for most people. Its why hypocrisy, crime and all sorts of negatives abound.

There is a difference between serving God and practising religion.
Man has indeed forgotten God.
Drop religion and embrace truth.
God bless you

Shut up. you are one of those mindless folks Prof. Osundare is talking about.

religion and serving God (Jehova, Allah etc) are the same thing

the next thing, you'll say what ur religion dictates as this so called "truth". hence being a mindless fool to religion

moffymichael:
are u an athist?

No, I'm not

blueAgent:
it does not influence my life negatively in any way.

it does. you don't recognize reality..
if Yahweh promised Abraham land. .why did he fail?
you are saying, conditional prophecy. ..where is the condition in the simple promises of land?

moffymichael:
You are talkig like a kid. Can you see God? The Glory and presence of Jesus is too strong for a mortal man to behold except we are being transformed to an immortal, and that would occur after rapture.

When Jesus appeared to Paul(saul b4), Paul could not even see Him. D only tin Paul could see was Light; even, the brigtness of d light blinded his eyes immediately. We mortal humans are too weak to see God face to face but we can feel His presence when He's around.

So, what u need for now is His presence and that can only be possible if and only if you are born again. If u are'nt born again it means u are not part of His kingdom and feeling His presence would be far reached.

Why not gimme something that really makes sense and not all this fairytale?

Ginaz:
The way I see the whole matter is tribalism, igbos are siding Thiers while Yoruba's are siding their man too. Both of them are wrong, nobody did anything right! The person that truely deserved this fvcking award is KISS DANIEL! Wenti kesh sing sef? Bank's sabi anything? Kesh na worse, he's always shouting whenever he sings

Both of them dont deserved it sef, tribalism won't let some fans have common sense.

But kesh, banks and kiss Daniel are all yoruba

lawani:
Translation is hard between any two languages. There are concepts in one language that don't exist in another but what we need to know is that Olodumare of the Yoruba is not a deity. Why? Because it is never deified.

I see!
But Irunmole aren't deified

Image123:
You're not making much sense, are you sure this is not religion?

No it's not religion

fhelihx:
It looks very much like coyote.

looks nothing like coyote, it looks more like raccoon. .but raccoons aren't native to africa

blueAgent:
Lie .that was a conditional prophecy. it will happen not now.

;Dkeep hoping.

instead of living your life upon concrete philosophies you are wasting ur life on damned prophecies of a history of failure

lawani:
In Abrahamic religions,especially Judaism, the God is fidgety and running after people for worship. In Christianity and Islam, the God is not only fidgety and reactionary but also violent and sadistic for burning people in hell for unbelief. In Ifa, the God is the onlooking father of all trying desperately to see us through, guide us, show us secrets like a father and that God is not fidgety neither is he agitated and he takes no sacrifice from anyone. Once you take sacrifice or DEMAND worship, you are a deity, hence orisas, eeguns and etc are all deities and not God. God in Yoruba thought is not god, there is only one God who asks for neither sacrifice nor worship or bribe. Orisa, eegun and etc are not gods, not all English words can be translated to Yoruba and vice versa. Orisa are notable people while Eeguns are ancestors, ori is yourself, then there are other natural things trees, rivers, ocean, mountains, forest and etc all deified and are deities but they are not God. God is Olodumare. Thanks.

Ah! you are misunderstanding english words here. Deity and God are the same thing

deity from French - Deus. and God from Germanic "Gott"

There's no pastor in this world that is truthful. they are all liars and they know it

Psalm18:
You would think with all these misses, he would shut up about predicting 2016.

he wouldn't. expect more "prophecies" come 2016
just like their bible, they make prophecies that only fail


Apostle Sulaiman too is another shameless con man

I like. .. Godswill Akpabio and Ben Murray-Bruce

PabloAfricanus:

You know a dude has lost the argument when he resorts to ad hominems.
A mere challenge to prove your point cannot be countenanced by someone claiming special knowledge he wants others to know about!
That bloke in typical African fashion expects no opposition to his creative fantasies.
Its the transliteration part that got me laughing Abiriyamu
Anything to soothe the feeling of inferiority in the face of overwhelming Arab and Jewish cultural hegemony!
I understand!

Abiriyamu is our father Abraham
the guy would invent anything to make himself feel good

it's all inferiority complex, anything but just let me feel among my beloved jews

he doesn't realize, Abraham is just anglicized form of "Avrhm" pronounced "Avraham"


another funny one - Ebora is yoruba name for Abraham. where's the consistency?
giving too much attention to the "b" and ignoring the meaning of the name for similarities in sound

classic technical approach of pseudohistory and pseudolinguistics

MetaPhysical:
Your task here should be for a single purpose.
Dr Oduyoye has made claims that Yoruba has footprints in AfroAsia, disprove these claims with substantial evidence and zero out any possibility of Yoruba existence in that region.

Why didn't you answer my question?

I'm sorry I cannot see, from your opening posts how "Dr Oduyoye" declares Yoruba footprints in Afroasiatic languages.

from your opening posts, he merely proposes similarities with different languages - Igbo, Arabic, Akkadian, Hebrew, Yoruba etc. . there was no authoritative declaration that Yoruba language is Afroasiatic

let's see this:

"Hebrew “rosh” (first) to Arabic “ras,” Aramaic “resh” and Akkadian “rishu”. And to Yoruba “Orisha”

Hebrew -Rosh means "head" "leader". I take it the other words in those languages mentioned being Semetic languages would mean the same thing as in Hebrew.
which in yoruba is "Olori" not Orisa.

Lamurudu is yoruba rendition of Nimrod

while, this is absolutely correct. but the knowledge of a "Nimrod" came through the quran that was brought by Muslims not earlier than the 18th century


I've disproved these claims metaphysic, please bring more if you have.

lawani:
The word for God is Olodumare. In Igbo it is Chukwuabiama, Benin Osanobua, Hausa Ubangiji all are thesame person

you working so hard to drive home this monotheism thing.

What do you call Orisa? if you were to translate that word to a single word in english? or the Igbo Alusi?

every prophecy the bible made didn't come to pass

even the one about israel owning the lands from the Nile to the Euphrates river (Gen 15:18) all failed

while not being a christian. .and the whole thing is non of my business; I think I've said this a thousand times over, that speaking in tongues is simply "speaking in tongues" which is different languages not some spiritual language they speak in ur fairytale heaven

2prexios:
No the joke is on you people, that you don't bring resources to the table beside what will earn you likes and shares.

hope you get it?

ok, we don't bring resources cause its pretty much a settled thing that Ife is yoruba origin but you 2prexios say otherwise, that Abraham is our father.
why not show us that you are correct and over 40 million people are wrong about their origins

likes and shares get to you in a very strange manner. .this is a faceless forum, I believe you should have a real life worth living to the fullest and so likes and shares on a faceless forum shouldn't give you mental strain like this. ..you are a man not a child, please act like one.

OPCNAIRALAND:
I see you mentioned me again in your falsehood.
Do me a favor, why cant you go and push your theory against thosr who know and have records.

Go here and argue against expert.

https://www.nairaland.com/2825003/yoruba-afroasia-man-rewrote-genesis#41367982

is it really falsehood? Pls show me where I erred

that's the thing, I want to learn from you oh knowledgable ones that's why I ask for evidence..I'm not too proud to admit I was mistaken

Present those records that Oduyoye published cus I'm not wasting my time and money to purchase a book I currently take as poo...you hold his book in high esteem already don't tell me you haven't read the book
I've read through the thread, I was mentioned there. sorry, it lacks the cultural and linguistic contents historical community would take seriously... Metaphysical can do better than that thread

why would you think I'd be against Yoruba having influence over the Semites? I just want to know what you are saying has any truth, I don't believe people's wild dreams