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They'll deny. . But any intelligent fellow can tell that Yorubas have been dominant in the film industry more so than any other ethnicity

Our yoruba movies cannot be compared with hausa or igbo movies

Even in english films, we give quality not quantity

agadez007:
7.they dont take their baths,their girls dont wash their bra and pant,and the smell from down below can kill people


8.they are always doing omo onile and chasing after danfo shouthing ''haaaa Owo mi da'' ,when they are not into omo onile they are robbing people

9.they dont shiat in WC (water closet) they prefer to do it in Nylons then cleans their ass with their hands

10.they concot oily foods which clog their brain thereby making it hard to reason like human beigns


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And you know all this personal stuff how?
I guess you are actually describing your family members

Image123:
Good to hear that you know your Creator, hopefully you're not deluded about that knowledge though. My advice to you is to love Him, fear Him, obey Him and please Him.

Love? fear?
You are in no position to advice me.

davidante27:
Communication means :the successful conveying or sharing of ideas ,information and feelings.
Wouldn't it be better if everyone could communicate in one language instead of having interpreters ? What matters most is simply the ease of transfer of the message. Now imagine how difficult it would have been for Africans to understand each other if most Africans nation weren't unified by English or French language.
I'm not implying that people should suddenly abolish their languages and embrace English. Gradually,all of that will eventually happen. As I mentioned earlier,most people in Norway,Sweden,Denmark,Finland,Germany understand English language and speak it fluently as a second language. There are American and Canadian teachers teaching English in Japan,China,Singapore and South Korea, and most people there understand English . English is already the universal lingual Franca,although Chinese language has the largest number of speakers .

Lol. You people like to say some crazy shiit
So because people learn English in Japan, South Korea, Sweden etc it means they should drop their language for English? When did being multilingual become a bad thing? Why can't an African have his language and speak it fluently while learning english?
English is only what it is cause it was once the language of the largest empire and dominant political power, due to that today's world power USA has english as its official language. Tomorrow another language can become what you call "lingual franca".
The only reason why english is the official language of a country like nigeria is diversity, kill this worthless diversity and create homogeneous states in africa and watch African languages develope
Our languages are very important, a yoruba man cannot express himself in any language better than yoruba. Our ideas and logic are cemented in our language

OPCNAIRALAND:
Your response makes no sense. I thought you are someone with deep knowledge in these topics, Im dissapointed.

How can you just say Harum mean forbidden and conclude no connection. I guess im looking for insight from a wrong contributor. Don't say anymore, Ill wait for other people to show up and contribute. Thanks.

it makes no sense? Cus you didn't see
"Oh yes! Hor'mila/Harum mila is hebrew for orunmila"

Obviously you are not looking for someone with any sort of knowledge but someone who just agrees with you.

OPCNAIRALAND:
You guys check this out....wooo, this makes me want to start studying hieroglyphics now...maybe i can decode like these guys.

Have you guys seen this before? Educate your brother, is this true?

Orunmila/Hor mila/Harum Mila
The messiah' actually referrer to the Word from heaven, (John 6:25-35 and Mat1:18-24) called 'Harum mila' in ancient Hebrew. The Yorubas of Nigeria in their traditional religion of Ifa (Ephod by Septuagint and Ifa or Afa in Hebrew) called the name Orunmila (Hor'mila/Harum mila).

The bible passages you gave has nothing to do with what you're talking about

do you speak hebrew? Or u just listen to every dumb fellow? Cus "Harum" would mean Forbidden like "Haram" in Arabic. And has nothing to do with orunmila
Ephod is nothing but a ritual material worn by ancient jewish priests, it has nothing to do with Ifa

Stop forcing yorubas to a people who have nothing in common with us

"Nigeria is all that matters, it belongs to all of us.
Nigeria is the only thing constant, it is sacrosanct"


GEJ likes saying all these things. . But it's all lies
The only thing that matters and is constant is the People not the State
No State should be considered sacrosanct, and more important than its people

sinceraconcept:
Maybe she's accounting for the Burna Boy tattoo she has on her arm right now. Tattoo is devilish,what does she want to tell God what the tattoo is for?

You lack sense. there's nothing wrong with art, body art or otherwise

Apc and talk talk. Ekiti is a Pdp state just give up

Btruth:
If it's not devilish, why must the families be crying wolf then? You might as well seek the truth, and let the truth set you free.

They cry because they are not familiar with the culture and traditions of Ife as it concerns a title like Obalufe
It's our identity, unless the devil is the progenitor of black africans

Image123:
i suppose you don't know how to answer simple questions without getting into a fit. Do you know your Creator?

Smh.
You cannot find your answer in all the simple english words I posted.

And this was never about me to begin with

Lemme come down to your level
Yes I know my Creator...but you don't know your Creator and you would never until you shake off that spiritual servitude to jews

lumeneng22:
Yoruba and secret societies.........Why can't you turn to God? His wrath and anger awaits you.

shineeye1:
Is it not intriguing how some still prefer darkness even after discovering light!?

Btruth:
Dinning with the devil has nothing to offer you than shame and disgrace. I wonder why the family pretend as if they don't know the drill, "give unto the devil what's belong to the devil"

You all have made no sense. .just to show how far you are lost

Everything based on traditions is devil, darkness, etc to you morons. Must you Bring ur borrowed religion into everything?

davidante27:
Don't worry I understand what you mean,but many will not give up their culture and language without a fight. Life is short and Everyone will someday die.We are here to make the best of our time .Why hold on to backward and unproductive ways of doing things ? You see,The only superior culture are the most beneficial and effective and progressive ways of doing things . Nigeria for instance is united by the English language. That is a better method than having too many languages and not understanding each other . There is no god waiting for twin sacrifice anywhere ,so we abolish the killing of twins and embrace the better method. Pit toilets are outdated ,so we abolish that and embrace the better method of doing things . Japanese high speed trains,green tea ,meditation and Yoga seem effective and progressive ,so we adapt that as part of the universal standard .
Behavioral patterns have been studied and now we understand human nature and human behavior better .
After many years of research ,we have discovered better ways of doing things and understanding the world. There are universal standards . For example,skyscraper ,modern toilet ,asphalt roads,traffic lights ,electricity,organized housing , high-speed trains ,Ferris wheel , beach umbrellas ,or Tshirt ,etc. are neither American,Swedish or Ethiopian culture;those are simply the better methods of doing things . It is pointless holding on to traditional African pit toilet when a better method has been invented .It is pointless holding on to primitive and backward traditions when better methods have been invented .
In terms of Language however,although it is difficult to suddenly abandon one's traditional lingua franca,but the eventual goal is for the entire world to be anglicized,and that will eventually happen someday . It is pointless having so many languages and holding on to primitive cultures . I think that Africans should accept and implement the better method of doing things instead of holding on to retrogressive cultures and vilifying the better method of doing things as being too white or too western. There are numerous American and Canadian teachers teaching English in Japan,China and many parts of Asia.
In this system of societal organization,the entire southern Africa would be one country. The entire west Africa would be one country. The entire north Africa would be one country. The entire east Africa would be one country. Egypt could remain an independent country due to it's history. Universal Lingua Franca :English.

You've made absolutely no sense man. You don't expect an independent people to abandon their identity for a foreign one
Try as you like if you aren't english you can never be english

Holywizard:
he must be dining with the devil right now

For being a chief in his fatherland?

Demmocrats:
Bad news is like good morning in 9ja this days.


There is no smoke without fire, the summary of every thing is that the said Chief is an occultist!!!

All title holders in Yorubaland are expected to be involved in one cult or the other

omoelesa:
Wole Soyinka,Fani kayode,kemi olunloyo,Gani Adams,these are prominent yorubas supporting your biafra agitation.I dont wants to hear yorubas dont want u to seced.As u are going home for christmas, make sure u go along with all your properties, so that by Jan 1 2016, u just declare your biafra republic.Dont come to SW again to disturb our peace.

they'll still say yoruba nation is the reason they failed their children

Blame game is their specialty

Ajibolatao:
Why are you not replying. As a literate, I believe you have your cogent reasons for embracing traditional religion. kindly enlighten me as I am ready to learn. Do not shy away from this with flimsy excuse. Thanks

There's nothing like traditional religion. That's white man's myopic reference to a form of Spirituality than is interwoven with the traditions of a people


1. Both Christianity and Islam are oppressive and aggressive religions that fills a man with hatred and bigotry. Which are bad for human Sociality. When a people live together in a community it is most progressive for them to follow the same standards and anyone going contrary be punished for what we can call a "crime or taboo"

2. As intolerant religions with strict dogmas, an African man cannot live his ethnic identity...unless he wants to be what you call "Kafir", mixing islam(or christianity) with tradition ie. Oba Ogunwusi. Tell me where then do you get your standards from? Bible? Quran or the recorded traditions? What psychological conflict you bring upon yourself, the same bible and quran that preaches against and declares all evil on that tradition, and even against eachother

3. There lays greater knowledge in traditions passed from centuries ago, the ancestors having a long time to reflect on what they do in understanding of the world and it's creator. Subsequent generations should keep the foundations of these traditions and build upon the knowledge of their ancestors, not destroy it..it comes with greater pride as a people; a nation, not to forget the science hidden beneath the mysticism. There's more to celebrate - your culture, your history, your past achievements, and a lot to show the world. A people who have forgotten where they came from cannot know where they are going. Why do you think africa is in such miserable state? We used to be better than this, check our history before Islam and christianity, we built civilizations that others envy

4. It helps you build a solid and greater relationship with your Eleda(Ori) cus you are closer to your ancestors and they walk with you. You cannot deny your ancestors spiritually, they live on in you as you lived in them. Your Ori is your guidance in this life and a good knowledge of your past helps you to shape your future. A mental slave who believes in his enemies over his father and uses his hand to destroy his father's house is a worthless human being with a dead spirit.
You are only muslim cause your parents were Muslims, first of all because arabs came to africa to sell their refined traditions called islam. . This was a move by the arabs to dominate you in your own land. Check it, arabs control north africa today and Iraq, Iran etc, sudan is a lost country without direction except from the arabs

dejavski:
Aside from olu-ugbo.
But the rest sounds edoid in my opinion. I think the link between yorubas and binis might be the Ilajes

Diadem has answered you

teetee123:
Among the Egbas, "lle" is called Orile and it refers to the origin or earlier settlement of a section of the group. Almost all part of Abeokuta has an Orile located elsewhere in Ogun State even in the present Oyo State
This shows where the group came from before settling down in Abeokuta

Yes yes orile denotes origin. . There's a difference between ile and orile. Go to imesi ile or Ido ile the Obas there can never claim origin of other imesi or Ido

Image123:
i suppose you don't know your Creator. Don't take it hard on yourself, there's hope.

I see I have to take u back to my previous post

You would have to be utterly stuupid and undeserving of your human status if you believe the Entity that created the universe can be pathetic and bias enough to camp with the jews alone. .such that you must go through jews to get to the creator. What happens to the Supreme being your ancestors called Chukwu, Olodumare, Ojo, Osanobua etc
Use ur head and stop being a demented slave

dejavski:
What I am saying is why are other clans not following this pattern of monarchial system?
It looks kinda unique to me

There's very little unique to Yoruboid groups when compared with others. . Not that there's non o. But we have interacted so much that you can easily find something among at least 2 yoruba subgroups

Olu-ugbo is unique? That's a throne heavily tied with Obamakin of Ife.

Image123:
i know my Creator, do you know yours?

You don't know nothing. A mental slave like urself is spiritually dead
An African calling a dead jew his creator... you can't get intellectually, spiritually, socially lower than this

dejavski:
FESTIVITIES

Though the Ilaje are scattered in various places along the coastal lines, at various times of the year, they all returnto their home base in Ondo to celebrate some of their festivals, which include: masquerading (the Umale festival), Malokun (a fertility festival for the goddess of the sea), regatta and periodically, the Epo (Raffia-costumed masquerade), which was used to scare the people of Ife before the Moremi saga.
During these celebrations, there is the uniquely polyphonic renditions of both the Biripo traditional music and the Ilaje spirituals of the Zion Christian sect.
They also offer supplications to great river goddess known as Aiyelala a a place called "ita aiyelala"

MONOARCHIAL SYSTEM

Ugbo is the major town in Ilaje land and is under the paramount ruler known as the OLU-UGBO of ugbo.
Beside ugbo, there are three other major clans,These include Mahin, Aheri and Etikan. Aheri is presided over by the Maporure and Etikan is headed by the Onikan of Etikan while Ugbo is headed by the Amapetu of Mahin.
The other royal titles include:
Oliha - The Chief Priest
Ologbosere - The King Maker
Iyasere - The King's Spokesperson/Second in command

Which of this defers from fellow yorubas?

debeey87:
I was told the Obi of Onitsha has a chapel in his palace where he worships God. He removes his crown before entering the presence of God and wears it back after service. Thats humility.

That's bastardization of culture and traditions

obongtunji:
Please explain to us how he used social media to become Ooni. I can't remember campaigning or can't remember seeing his picture on any social media soliciting for votes to become Ooni. Until his name was announced by the Ile-Ife king makers you and I don't even know him. So please educate the more on how he used social media, your comment is laughable.

Speak for urself. . Many of us knew him immediately after the death of Sijuwade due to his social media campaign

LordAdam:
According to traditional belief, the Ooni is a god. Of course, he can choose to pay allegiance to another god. That is the prerogative of the Ooni.

The angle from which the critics are coming is that the Ooni chose to pay allegiance to an Hebrew God rather than a god in the Yoruba pantheon of deities. Which should raise eyebrows because there are over 100 deities in the Yoruba pantheon.

Christians should not quote me. The Oba of Benin will not kneel in a church because he does not pay allegiance to the Hebrew God. Call him diabolical or not. He chose core tradition and he has as much if not more right to his belief than you do.

-Lord

This is the main reason why I respect the Oba of Benin. The Obas at Benin keep making their people and ancestors proud

tpiar:
It can't be Nigerians who are complaining about such, there is nothing unusual about a traditional ruler going to church.

Any Nigerian making noise about this, has lost touch with his or her roots or never kneuw them to begin with.

Shut ur mouth.
If these aren't Nigerians who are they? Look who's talking about roots. .
Is it right for a traditional ruler to leave traditions and go after foreign deities?

Image123:
Of course, all we need to know is who that is.

Are you Igbo? If so look to Chukwu
Are you Yoruba? Look to Olodumare
Bottom line, you don't need jews or europeans to know ur own creator

CAMNEWTON4PRES:
Africa and Africans should seriously consider cultural imperialism..... We have so many of our offsprings scattered all over the world because of western mercantilists and imperialists, this is an opportunity to payback what they did in Africanizing those countries ....Just imagine Obama with a dashiki instead of a suit

I like this thought brother. .. but african States of today can't do nothing

Image123:
Yes, many. He(the Ooni) answers to the governor of Osun State, the President of Nigeria, and his God. There are also more higher and powerful monarchs than him all over the world. The fact that i am the king of my village does not mean that there is no higher king than me, that's what you are saying. That's baseless as it is unreasonable and it is not on faith.

Similarly the fact that Jehova is god of christianity doesn't mean there's no Deity higher than him

tpiar:
figure it out, it's not that hard.

You got nothing to say as always

tpiar:
so you dont know the Ooni belongs to every religion represented in his realm?

ok, now you do.

A

tpiar:
so you dont know the Ooni belongs to every religion represented in his realm?
ok, now you do.

answer me first jare