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Kentox:
End time tins... Be careful with your faith!

Actually christianity isn't about Faith but hope.
Christians have no Faith, all u do is hope u are right about ur beliefs which you have grown so emotionally attached to since childhood

Maamin:
In all the religion and thousands of believes in the world how comes people choose to pick on Jesus Christ everytime?..

There must definitely be something special about him

As if we don't all pick on Mohammed too

italo:
I tire! Jesus Jesus all the time.

Do you deny the OP's claim that the Jesus myth was largely copied from earlier existing mythologies?

Silly dumb Christians

Read ur Bible damn it!
Acts 2:5-12

Speaking in tongues refers to speaking in different languages not speaking some crazy spiritual language....there's no such thing as spiritual language

Read ur Bible and stop being duped by ur pastors and priests

Emmalot121:
God is the beginning itself.

so ur god didn't exist before the beginning?
Moment! Wat is this beginning?

plaetton:
You argue that everything must have a beginning, then you contradict your claim by stating that god does not have a beginning.
No matter how you spin it, god contradicts his own existence.

Perfect case of cognitive dissonance

Emmalot121:
He can be used for someone with no gender. As for your who's question, when you break a piece of yam, won't you get to its atom? There is origin for everything. The origin of our universe is something and that something is God, the beginning and the end. Like I said the comprehension of God is beyond human reasoning.

"He" is a gender. The same god is also called father, Lord all masculine titles yet you say he is no man in space
The same god walked the earth on foot in Genesis 3:8 yet he is no humanoid

Your god cannot possibly exist

Saraha1:
Pls don't give room for the devil .
I know how you feel . We all have our challenges in life , but you allowing the devil to pass wrong information to you ,is not the best.

Remember what he said in proverbs.
He said: for surely there is an end;and thine expectation shall not be cut off.
Also in the book of 2peter 5V10.
(But the God of all grace ,who hath called us unto his eternal glory by christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while,make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.)
I believe this is your own trial period.
Why not wait on the lord to perfect what he has instock for you?

Beside did you put into consideration where you would be going, if you commit the suicide?

My brother is HELL. Which is not the plan of God for you.

Another religio-tard, you simply can't give sensible advice. Must you threaten with ur delusional religious mythology?

vizkiz:
if you kill yourself, it wouldn't solve the matter, it will only bring eternal destruction. Believe me, your suffering is just about to start if you take your own life

There's nothing like eternal destruction. Jst tell him suicide is bad and a lack attempt to escape ur problems simple!
Nt threats

iamord:
Lol! “Saying why ghana”. is also a form of. Hate. Tho I don't send What She did. Nigerians are not hated as its painted

Dude are from Ghana?

I would feel like I've jst been born again. I'll feel so happy I could jump of a bridge
My greatest prayer is for this damned Nigeria to die and disintegrate

egift:
Jonathan took a United Nigeria and mismanaged it till breaking point.

Bros Nigeria was never united and will never be united
Let's not deceive ourselves anymore

Time has come. Death to Nigeria!
Arise Biafra
Arise Niger delta
Arise Oduduwa

ofsegs:
Like the way the Binis tried to fill the loopholes in the Oduduwa story with their Ekaladerhan's tale.
This particular one just does not fit in. The Binis said Ekaladerhan went west and Idah is located East of Benin. How did he now found himself in Idah?

Exactly everybody wants to claim oduduwa but there's no claim without loopholes so far even the Bini claim

twaintoy:
Got it though I have read abt It online. Am just wondering why she doesn't want women to see her.

Well I guess only a Babalawo can tell u that

ghostofsparta:
I agree ofcourse, I've retracted my earlier statement which was a mistakening of another aspect of it. Meanwhile, why don't you share your opinion on what you think about this video of a housemaid who turns the child baby kept in her care into a beat-toy fitting the profile of those types who will quickly lie against the devil as responsible for her cruelty. I posted the video link there: https://www.nairaland.com/2010889/see-what-happens-folks-leave

Oh yh I saw that later..I'll check out the video

ijawcitizen:
1. How come Ijaws are settlers in itsekiri land when they met Ijaws in the land before the foundation of the so called itsekiri nation? 2. Do you agree that the founder of the so called itsekiri nation, Ginuwa the exiled prince from benin was a refugee who seeked asylum within the ijaws of the same area, and himself and his co-refugees (about 70 people, all men) were all given ijaw wives ie itsekiris are maternally ijaws? Other than God Almighty Himself, we ijaws created the itsekiri nation, we nursed it from the very begining. I really don't know if you're all just some cursed and wretched ingrates or just acting like one. Ijaws settling in itsekiri land indeed!

While Ijaw are known to be of an old culture, probably the least undiluted in southern Nigeria..Yorubas and Edos have been walking through the delta for centuries, the Ijebu explorers who first settled there might have met Ijaw people around but at the coming of Ginuwa from Bini and later formation of Itsekiri kingdom didn't see Itsekiri take land from ijaw, there's no ijaw clan that claims ownership to the land the Itsekiri hold, which makes me think Ijaws never settled there

sinequanon:
So, the "African Traditional Religion" is the only one couched in terms of REVENGE?

Actually "African traditional religion" is such an inappropriate term..cus
1. It's nt really a religion, but a spirituality
2. There are hundreds/thousands of ethnic groups in Africa, each having it's own spiritual philosophies, despite their similarities, they each revolve around different cultures and traditions

And that's nt about revenge, more like Karma

ofsegs:
So you agree with the Igala account?

Of course not, I am Yoruba and this page is the first place I've come across this. Could be a recent made up tale

twaintoy:
Thanks. A friend told me females are not allowed to see Odu. How true is this and why?

Long ago, some few thousands years actually when Orunmila spread Ifa knowledge, he married the first Iyaami called Odu, she promised to be with him and her spirit flow through his disciples to enable them understand the mysteries of the universe and change lives only on the condition that no women must see her, this law was carried in Ifa cult even after her death

ghostofsparta:
Truth is female don't get initiated into Ifa system. Only males se-Ifa (stage 1) and te-Ifa (stage 2). You can be initiated into any of the other Orisha ways, and still become an Iyanifa, besides IFA is central to all 400 divinities. Anyone is free to consult IFA too regardless of whether you are an initiate or not.

Absolutely wrong. Women can be fully initiated into Ifa...only they don't get Odu
Regardless of that, they don't even need it as women are naturally gifted with an Odu - their womb

maajin007:
u lack manner of writing people like you clamour for division at the end you start regretting, so u think nations that divide live well after that. I think you can ask Ukrainian and Korean they are in a better position to tell you. When u are speaking sometime u screen what you say, because this is not your father's parlour where you can come and talk to people like hoodlum.

The Korea you speak of are much more progressive than Nigeria yet even even they were joined with South Korea they didn't have as much differences as Nigeria
The Soviet states also don't have as much differences as Nigeria

You are a fool to even approach me on this, many times I have given explicit points to why Nigeria must disintegrate for a better tomorrow for the people forced in this abomination

Radoillo:
Igbos? Hmmm...

I knew Christianity had made some impact in Egbaland (largely due to returnees from Sierra Leone) before colonization of that part of Africa.

Igboland though. This is new and strange to me.

Anyway, better examples of parts of Africa that were fully or partly Christian before the colonial era would have been Ethiopia, the Kingdom of Kongo, the kingdoms of Benin and Itsekiri, etc (although Christianity had basically died out in the last three places before colonization in the late 19th century).

Bini did give in to Christian missionaries even long before colonization, I remember reading Oba Eseige sending the high priest of Olokun to Europe on a mission to bring active Christian evangelism to Bini
one might suspect all that was a ploy by the Oba to gain the Portuguese trust, after they had rejected to form agreements with a pagan nation but point is Edos were already converting to a foreign religion out of the desperate need and blackmail of the Europeans
I won't comment on igboland, u are Igbo afterall.

thoth:
What Niger Delta had was people who could speak pidgin English due to earlier contact with the white man and not really converts, they killed a couple of missionaries and the colonial masters retaliated by destroying many villages and imprisonment of many elders, after that they decided to become non conformists by just ignoring the missionaries , the colonial masters replied by forced education whereby children and some adults were forcefully taken to school to learn the Cathcheism and parents who objected were imprisoned.

Niger Delta before colonialism was heavily saturated with many Deities associated with Water and those play a very crucial role on how they interprete their society.

The Bini Kingdom was one which even during colonialism had very little to do with Christianity and that reflects in their lives to this day, the distrust and insurrections that weakened the Bini empire has nothing to do with Christianity but actually has more to with many sovereign kingdoms whom were dominated,taxed and ordered about by the Bini Kingdom, remember till the Brits came Igboland has fought a really long war with the Binis and eventually settled on a tax to be paid to the Oba to avoid further wars, Olauda Equiano also mentioned that in his book. What happened was that to weaken the Bini Empire the Brits encouraged those kingdoms to disregard the Oba, stop paying taxes and confront the Binis based on promise of protection from the British Empire.

killed a couple of missionaries And the European nations from where the missions came did nothing?
This is very unlikely as the raid of Bini by the British in 1897 was due to the killing of some British men

You should know the pope sent various messages to Different Obas at Bini, if christianity wasn't strong why would the pope send messages to the King?

Radoillo:
This is the first time I've heard anyone attempt to put Ekoi under an Efik/Ibibio umbrella. You probably don't know how dissimilar both languages are. To give you an idea, Yoruba and Idoma are closer to each other than Efik and Ekoi are. It is not general knowledge that Ekoi falls under Efik...unless it's general knowledge that Nupe falls under Yoruba. (This is not even a good analogy: Yoruba and Nupe are closer to each other than Efik and Ekoi).

Ihuomadinihu:
I never said they are same cultures. I said they have established relationships amongst them due to geographical proximity. We have what is Cross riverain Igbo culture too. Nsibidi has it's origins in Ejagham before the efik/ibibio adopted it. Am actually more interested in the aboriginal settlers of the Abia/Cross river area,who were driven away by the Ibibios.

Really? Isn't Ekoi language and culture categorized as semi-Bantu?
I assumed it's jst as typical as the general Efik/ibibio culturally identity

You mean to say Ekoi aren't semi-Bantu like Efiks and the others in the region?

Yoruba and Edo(including urhobo) have the same ancestry...however we crossed paths again about 800yrs ago through oduduwa, a legend who Bini says was a runaway prince, after being set up and cheated.

One thing is Yoruba history doesn't say where he came from all we know is that the king was a prince and he came from the northeast with a team and nt alone...Bini isn't northeast and their account suggest he entered Ife alone.
So unless he settled somewhere northeast of Ife and became a war general of some sort the Bini account doesn't fit in

cheruv:
it belongs to them and not Mgbokos...it doesn't mean anything in mgboko but means cruel writings in ekoi.the cross river Igbos borrowed it from the ekois,renamed it to nsibiri and spread throughout the cultural area called ALA IGBO

Sure it's Ekoi, my point is Ekoi is of the same cultural structure as Efiks...I merely use "efik/ibibio" to represent all those culturally assimilated and linguistically linked tribes in the region

I don't get why this was a cause for arguments in the first place, it's like general knowledge

Lmao Aramfe is Ifa? Seriously? U don't even know Aramfe and u claim authority on Yoruba culture...hilarious

Ihuomadinihu:
Na wa. Come to Abia state and see Ekpe things. The fact is that Efik,Ibibio and Igbo share lots of things. No amount of denial can erase that relationship.

True but the differences are much more than the similarities. Efik/ibibio is one culture, Igbo is another
And Nsibidi has it's origin in the Efik/Ibibio culture

muafrika:
My cultural background is deep in the relations between the living and the dead, and am glad the culture is gradually fainting because it can get oppressive, especialy for people who treasure their peace of mind.

If we are going to discard foreign things, lets not pin point just religion, which (Christian) is not even originally European as we are neck deep in a very unAfrican worldwide political, social and economic system.

religion is the major factor here, it's the greatest hindrance to a super Africa devoid of European and middle eastern sire
It's gone so far that Africans now bring up crazy and obviously false ancestral links with Arabs and Hebrews

Christianity might nt be originally European but it's no Judaism, that line between the two was created by Romans

thoth:
which part of Africa accepted Christianity before colonization ?

Southern Nigeria...particularly Niger delta region and Igbos
Bini kingdom already had hundreds of Christians before colonialism, Infact one major factor to the empire's fall was disloyalty to the Oba and disunity among the Edos in Bini caused by their new found differences

mumumugu:
yea, it depends on what we call christianity. For me christianity means "christ like"

i like d life of jesus christ and i try to emulate his lifestyle.that makes me a christian.

I dont go to church ,fast or tithe.

bible to me is another inspirational/history book, written by men

Then you nt a Christian.

Christianity is based on the dogmas of the Bible and absolute allegiance to the church
Being Christ-like comes in when u follow the Bible and the church

U can't take.Christ out of the Bible, after all he exists nowhere else