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MetaPhysical:
Hausa will refer to Kanuri person as Beriberi or Babur.
Hausa refer to Nupe as Banupe or Banufi.
Hausa will also call Borgu person a Bariba.
Hausa call the highlanders of Plateau Bachama.

These are people with whom the Hausa culture and civilization share history and frontiers.

Why would they then single out the Oyo people, with whom they likewise share civilization and customs, and append to them a YA or YO, instead of a BA as they traditionally do with the rest?

Why don't you ask a person who speaks Hausa very well? That's our best bet rather than coming up with random theories that isn't getting us anywhere

Bororojo:
Yes i am Fulani, but I am not Fulaman, lol- I am another Fulani man.

you edited that list and replaced them with Gambari dominated, mixe of this and this.
I am not talking about which tribes dominate which areas, or if the area has other groups in it, but rather- who are the MAJOR ethic grous in each local government- can you seriously tell me that Yorubas are not the majority in The Ilorin LGA's? what are gambaris anyways? (Mix of Hausa, Fulani, Etc??}
Anyways... whatever is the case, i hope ethnic statistics are included in our next census.

Gambari is the Yoruba name for fulani
The current emir is of fulani ancestry through his father's side so in Yoruba language we have always called their clan - Gambari

Chiwude:
1- Yoruba - Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti, Oyo, Osun, Kogi West, Kwara, parts of Edo and Delta (Itsekiri) unlikely.
2- Hausa - Kano, Jigawa, Katsina, Sokoto, Zamfara, 70% Kebbi, Kaduna North, Bauchi.
3- Igbo- Imo, Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia, Delta North, 2/3 Rivers, parts of Edo, Benue, Cross River and Akwa-Ibom . (This is how it should be)
4- Fulani - Adamawa, Gombe, Taraba, Bauchi, Yobe, Plateau, Kebbi- All over Northern and Central Nigeria.
The rest are for grabs.

Who put Benue, Cross river and Akwa,ibom as Igbo states? Better don't deceive yourself

Am so tired of this guy's rubbish abeg

I almost fell from my chair reading all that joke from gatiano

rinrin23:
@macof and @gooseBaba. Thanks for the insight

You are most welcome madam

What you need is will power, intelligence and diligence..Nigeria really has lots of opportunity but also lots of lazy minded people who fail here and complain

Despite the despicable state our politicians are putting the nation
Nigerians are good people generally, just we have a thing for sitting around and waiting for heavenly blessings

You as an American without that bad typical Nigerian mentality you can make it big...most big guns in all works are those who have been exposed to American and European style

Lagos would be the best city for you to consider and observe carefully

tranxo:
Pre-Babel era, were ALL the people not living in one location? All the people in the world! Their population can't be that large to want to build a structure that could contain them all.
You run into problems when you start comparing the world of today with the young scanty world their. Christianity hinges on faith - belief in the unseen. You can never fully understand or explain spiritual things with a carnal knowledge. When God is involved in any assignment, expect overwhelming things cos He operates at a much higher level, and moves in mysterious ways.

EVERYTHING that God's hand is in often goes beyond human comprehension - that's where faith kicks in to take you the rest of the way. The story of Noah's Ark is more of spiritual than physical, for God is spirit.

Babel story is a lie. It never existed
My ancestors weren't there

Jesus is a fraud...it's that simple

OJODEL10:
i want you to knw that nt al animals can die in water and worms can live in water. perhaps they can dig into the ground to stay there as in fishes and others. so god has ways he wil do his works.crab and others can burrow into the soil so they dont need noah's ark.

I was waiting for this

When a Christian can't explain his Bible and knows it is a lie he simply lies to himself by saying "god has his ways" "God can't be understood by human reason"
and he jst keeps feeding himself with the famous "Jesus is lord And saviour"

shigoslim:
Pls repent before is too late, Jesus love you try to encounter him. Am once like you but 2day am not thesame because i had encounter with Jesus Christ. Pls think my brother your Jesus may come at anytime to take your life, is the only one that redeemed your life from grave of death. pls dnt lose your life, I pray may u encounter Jesus Christ

seunben:
Good point. There is a reason he is called God. Mere human reasoning cannot comprehend his ways. His (God) ways are not our (human) ways.

Joshthefirst:
Idiocy. Give money to a monkey then. Will it be useful to it? No. Because it can't make anything useful out of it.
Or give me Canadian dollars to spend while I'm in the US and see if it will be useful to me if I don't convert it into USD's. See?

Without us utilizing and converting and harnessing the energy around us, useful work can never be done. Development can never occur. Creation and order cannot be sustained!

Thou foolish man!

This points even more to the fact that energy by itself cannot be the precursor of what we see in the universe, the order. One had to be there; self-existent and the source of all things, including energy. This is the One who laid the foundations of the universe and order. He is defined as God. He has revealed himself through the ages of time.

Next time you will have to gimme a paycheck for teaching you these basic things again.

Pantheism has ruined your head.

The unfortunate issue is that you will come along with another thoughtless comeback after this...smh

Are u high on something other than dead Jew weed?
you don't even know what uselessness means you illiterate slowpoke
if money is useless then don't use it...don't work for money
The fact that u use money to get wat u need like food and accommodate makes it useful and far from useless because if u don't have money you are as good as useless urself.

I guess a carpenter is useless because he needs wood to produce furniture...he rather use his bones to prove to you that he is useful.


Energy however doesn't even need anything or anyone to be active, there's.only reaction of energy with energy when the solar energy is harnessed by a living organism
The living organism is only made up of energy...thetrefore it is just walking energy that needs the solar energy to survive in it's current form directly and indirectly through.various means


Who put the Sun there? Wats the Sun made up of? Wat does it supply the solar system? Energy! Self existent energy!
The solar energy forms a multitude of things in our planet...climate and weather, thermodynamics, sunlight, holding the planet earth in it's orbit etc.
All this it does without ur help for the our solar system to survive..now it's useless
ur mother cooks food for u, you eat it and say she's useless because if u don't eat it the food would only be there doing nothing

I can see you have a useless mother by ur logic

rinrin23:
I would love it if the poster and macof can tell we that weren't raised in our traditional spirituality- how do we learn more about it, past internet and Google searches?

I wasn't raised in traditional spirituality either
Best way to learn is attend festivals and go to ur home town to ask questions

Joshthefirst:
the sun provides energy that is useless without being harnessed by the organisms.
Energy can only be harnessed to produce useful work.

The sun doesn't hold up this planet. We take advantage of its light and heat.

Until you demonstrate to me how energy gave rise to everything around us, including order, you remain a joker.

Don't repeat yourself again. If you have nothing new to say, forget about it.

Am I the only one seeing this dudes madness

The bold is like saying Money is useless because it has to be spent by a human to be useful
damn! My kids can never worship a dead jew, too much of dead jew worshipping has affected ur brain


The universe is at a state of zero energy, not +1 nt -1 this is balance and order
If that's not example enough for u for the orderly formation of energy in the universe then go pick a book..you should return to secondary school

Your problem is that you are foolish to expect a humanoid creator doing magic in the sky

Macelliot:
Didn't you see the signature of the guy u quoted?
Unfortunately, the dude isn't a Christian, but a member of NOI(nation of Islam)

Is that so? now I know

Joshthefirst:
you are the one who didn't seem to do basic biology in secondary school. Or maybe you can't think enough to realize that even the solar energy is useless haphazard energy if it is not harnessed by living organisms. The living organisms harness the energy, not the other way round.

What does the sun do acting on its own? Nothing. Is the sun conscious? No.
Is energy self-existent? Macof says it is. Also implying it is all powerful and yet hypocritically forgetting how useless this a powerful creator of his is without his own manipulation of his creator. His creator is also useless to the most basic form of movement-life in this world, they all harness and take advantage of his creator to become effective in environments.

Shallow thinking.

The Sun does nothing?? Lmao
The Sun holds ur planet and many others
The Sun supplies light and heat to billions of miles away from it

it's ur father who makes the Sun do all this in his backyard abi?

And Yes, My creator is best described scientifically as Energy
Energy is the only thing self existent in the entire universe
I don't do myths and carry them as reality, I understand the symbolism and metaphor then decode it to fit in my reality
Without energy nothing would exist talkless of be active...energy makes all things active
The fact that you don't deny you need energy to move is enough to show u how stuupid you are to say energy is useless
Your entire body is walking energy

Ok let me play ur game... solar energy is useless without being harnessed? And then wat is ur humanoid god useful for? A god that can't affect the lives of his creation
A god that is busy preparing hell instead of protecting Christians against boko haram
A god that looks on when a Christian can't pay his house rent
Ur god is the perfect example of useless..useless to himself, useless to the universe

Dapo777:
Don't worry It's a mistake. When is the next osun festival taking place,I Wld like to participate and probably experience this spiritual thing.

next year August

It would be go for u to feel Osun if only jst once in ur life
trust me it's a wonderful feeling

gatiano:
polytheism is the reason why GOD, allow us make our adversary, "the devil". putting another god before GOD is the greatest of all sins, it drifted us away from the civilization that the originator created for us. sango and ogun are killed by its worshippers by worshipping them, perhaps that is why the wholeworld stole their glory. these so called gods are men, they were scientists, who would have been playing or working with thunder, if not a scientist, yet you so called sango worshippers don't have light? ogun people don't know and put into work the uses of iron. i charge you all these worshippers for killing away the legends, they never asked for our worship.

I jst forced myself not to be harsh with you.

1. You are ignorant of African traditional beliefs...No African man puts one God above the other if not befitting
Let me explain better
We all have our Patrons like my family's is Orunmila, we don't say because of this put Orunmila above all Gods out of sentiments...we are afterall spiritual minded and not religious
We respect Ogun and join Ogun devotees even some of my uncles from the Hunters side of the family sing his oriki like true omo Ogun particularly the one called Ijala

2. There's nothing like.God and god...there are only Gods. Every God is it's own independent God carrying one aspect of universal existence

3. sure Jesus ur God is a man but not any God of the various African spiritualities

4. wats ur business if the Spirits never asked for worship? They deserve the worship
Btw wat Africans do isn't necessarily worship rather Nourish
We nourish the earth and the little part of the universe we can affect...this is our sacred duty as humans...even ur Bible said man was created to "nourish the earth" nowhere in bible creation myth was it mentioned that Humans were created to worship an unseen God for all eternity

Joshthefirst:
Lol. See insults abeg.

Coming from someone who believes energy is conscious and self existent and the precursor of the order and disorder we see around us?

Energy, raw energy, that cannot perform useful uphill work without being HARNESSED is what this guy calls God, is what he believes to be self-existent and all powerful?

You are a man who takes advantage of and manipulates this almighty energy we see in the universe. You are greater than energy mehn. Try to think. You are indeed greater than the inanimate god you worship and esteem so highly. Pitiful.

As for me OTOH, my God is the conscious creator of the universe. I revel in his grace.

Keep decieving yourself by foolishly acknowledging the very energy we manipulate as all powerful in an effort to dodge truth.

you are a disgrace to your parents as u wasted their money without getting a thing from school

The Sun is energy acting on it's own
The planet earth and all things on it are energy active without human harness, in the entire universe only Energy truly exists - this is a scientific and spiritual(spirituality) fact
So unless u have a different thing in ur head called energy I have to say you need to go back to school cus u are no different from a stack illiterate

Dapo777:
Hahahahahahaha So an atheist is a typical Yoruba to you?

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I don't get

Humble my foot...he has simply lost his escorts

Chiwude:
To be unbiased, the word 'Yoruba' has its etymology in the Hausa language. It means people under the Oyo imperial lands.

Exactly! This is wat it is. It's nt a Yoruba word per se...but a corruption of a Hausa word like Katunga is Hausa for Oyo's capital city
Kanuri also have a name for the Yorubas similar to that

I think If anyone here knows Hausa language u could decrypt the name maybe pagan 9ja can do that

I won't blame religion this time..I think I have blamed religion enough
After all we let religion in to destroy us...why did we do that?

I keep asking myself why did Our people allow religion to destroy them? Why did Oba Esigie allow Christianity into Benin empire? Which later destroyed it?
Why did Oba Abipa allow Islam in Oyo empire? Which later destroyed it

This question drives me to conclude that there's a problem with Africa that predates religion in Africa
Greed? Selfishness?? Lack of foresight? Wat exactly?
why were we so gullible? Easily black mailed and threatened to accept foreign dogmas that most certainly don't suit our life style...the Indians didn't let it happen to them, neither did The Asians

I am Yoruba and none of what the OP stated is true
Believe the crazy liar at your own risk

Would delta Igbo have accept their Igboness?
Many of them claim Bini or Ijaw origin

Was Oba Ogunfunminire among the 16 princes from oduduwa's house or a much later generation of migrants from Ile-Ife?

muafrika:
It has to do with the halocene(hope its the right name) climatic period when the most habitable place on the African continent was the north. A period of the green and wet sahara. Much of the rest of the continent was a water world. The periods end about 5,000ya paved way for the drying up of the Sahara, and enabled the great migrations of the people south wards. Its alsothe reason why migrations followed a southward direction, as people followed the receding waters, ending up in riverine settlements. Its also probable that Egypt or what it was called at that time covered or controlled a more expansive territory than is acknowledged. I think there were many villages around all doing their own thing and probably paying someone protection fees or other form of tax.

what people do u know that claim Egyptian origin? I believe the drying up of the sahara isn't the exact time of people running out of Egypt rather people running into Egypt to seek the Nile and the Mediterranean sea

If at all there are tribes deep in Africa claiming Egyptian origin, their migration would have been caused by the multiple invaders like Persians, Romans and Arabs which is not even up to 3000yrs

Shey na today tongue dey inside mouth?
Of course not!

Paul is father of christianity