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Nowenuse: Mr, there is really nothin like an Edo language or a yoruba language. There r only edo nd yoruba dialects. Edo ppl speak languages dat r difrent nd similar 2each oda. Bini (edo south) and Etsakor (edo north) for instance can not understnd each oda. Evn among d etsakors, there r difrent etsakor dialects who cannot understnd each oda well. There r also Esan, owan, akoko-edo e.t.c. Edo ppl only profess a comon ancestry from d ancient bini kingdom, many of dem do nt evn agree to a comon ethnicity. Som bini ppl prefer 2b called Bini than Edo, same with som Ishan e.t.c. So with dat, I dnt think we shuld expect the yoruba ethnicity to be a homogenous ppl and language.
Surprsinly Egun ppl r today clasified as a yoruba sub-group 2geda with d aworis as Egun-awori, whereas it is very clear dat Egun ppl are of Dahomian (benin republic) origin.
So I really support Macof sayin dat Owo or Ekiti sub-groups of yoruba culd b closer to Bini inflences than yoruba (oyo) influences.

Nowenuse: Mr, there is really nothin like an Edo language or a yoruba language. There r only edo nd yoruba dialects. Edo ppl speak languages dat r difrent nd similar 2each oda. Bini (edo south) and Etsakor (edo north) for instance can not understnd each oda. Evn among d etsakors, there r difrent etsakor dialects who cannot understnd each oda well. There r also Esan, owan, akoko-edo e.t.c. Edo ppl only profess a comon ancestry from d ancient bini kingdom, many of dem do nt evn agree to a comon ethnicity. Som bini ppl prefer 2b called Bini than Edo, same with som Ishan e.t.c. So with dat, I dnt think we shuld expect the yoruba ethnicity to be a homogenous ppl and language.
Surprsinly Egun ppl r today clasified as a yoruba sub-group 2geda with d aworis as Egun-awori, whereas it is very clear dat Egun ppl are of Dahomian (benin republic) origin.
So I really support Macof sayin dat Owo or Ekiti sub-groups of yoruba culd b closer to Bini inflences than yoruba (oyo) influences.

bigfrancis21: Hahaha. This is the most funny thing I've heard today. You're trying to discredit my experience of learning the yoruba history in CRK when I was in junior secondary? History is well written in many books about how Oduduwa, the so-called progenitor of the yoruba race, fell from the sky. Oduduwa climbed down an iron chain that had been hung
from the sky to the watery land below. He carried from the
sky above a snail-shell full of soil, a five-toed chicken,
and a chameleon. He emptied out the soil, and the dry land
was formed by the chicken kicking the soil around as he
searched for food. The chameleon tested the land to see if
it was firm. And then Orishanla (now sober) created
human beings, while Oduduwa formed the rest of the
living world.

You're trying to tell me you've never heard of this story before? Or your great grand father didn't tell you of this well-popular story?

http://bridgesandtangents./tag/yoruba/

Joshthefirst: is it "being" now? Or is it still energy?

So the supreme God is a conscious being?

Pastor Olu T: U kept going back n forth, I have given u the floor a long time to tell us all how one can obtain spirituality by his consciousness. So we are listening to ur teachings, except u have got nothing to say?

bigfrancis21: Edos that grew up in Lagos and SW who speak yoruba as second or third language have suddenly become yorubas baa? Even some of the Igbos who grew up in Lagos who speak Yoruba are Yorubas too, right?

#Mirrors

bigfrancis21: That's what your folklore says. And I've seen you countlessly parading the belief on nairaland.

bigfrancis21: That's what your folklore says. And I've seen you countlessly parading the belief on nairaland.

doubleDx: Smdh!!! I don't expect a carnal minded heathen like you to understand spiritual things any way...Satan has blinded you that nothing supernatural makes sense to you! And seeing as you've intentionally rejected God, you may live in delusion for the rest of your life....


2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (KJV)

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

However, I'm still praying for folks like you to come out of darkness seeing as Christ hasn't given up on you too!

RoyPCain: @macof; i think the poverty that descended upon nigeria from mid 1980s onward till today is growing a wave of disrespectful peoples; yoruba youth included. why call me oponu osi when we are simply having a spiritual discussion and i may actually old enough to be your uncle, even to have you as a son? is this what yorubas the culture full of respect has turned to? where is the stellar cultural value of idobale lo to fun agba latodo omo kekere when i have not insulted you? you need to stop insulting people instead of intelligent discuss to show that you are omo luwabi and jade lati rere. present your point instead of being caustic. i am certain you didn't pick up this abrasive quality from Jesus and this may be the reason you didn't pick up his worship rituals or instructs to follow what the comforter after him [as to both] will command you from his Lord.

if you think Ibrahim [as] did not institute the hajj and it is his pattern we follow, why do we slaughter in commemoration of the event of the test to slaughter his son [as]? i am sure you and jews are angry because he is not from the bloodline of Israel. this is also the same anger that has made you enemy of Muhammad [sa]. but enemy of Muhammad is enemy of every prophet [as] before him.

Ibrahim [as] was not a jew or a christian, but a monotheist muslim bowing his will to God. Ibrahim invited his people to Islam, the belief and worship in obedience of 1 God, not God that has sons or born or turn to be human while He is Invisible, yet ghost. Ibrahim [as] told his children, his entire family to be of the same faith. when Jacob was dying Egypt he asked his children Who would they worship after he has gone? all of them told him they will worship the God of his father [Ibrahim, Ismaila and Isiaqa], One and they are muslims. this is the reason that they were not jews and their religion was not judaism at that time. yet they were monotheists. When God was going to totally destroy Pharaoh and humiliate the evil coptic egyptians, He instructed Moses [as] to tell all the children of Israel to go into their homes and remain there overnight and face a direction [Qiblah] and observe ritualistic worship prayer. The personal petition of Moses within this ritualistic worship prayer is indicated in surah Yunus [chapter 10], verse 88. in fact read from verses 71 to 92 which includes the reason the body of Pharaoh was thrown up by the sea and recovered for preservation.

Solomon preached and invited Bilquis, the Queen of Sheeba which included Ethiopia in her time to Islam. the whole effort of invitation by letter is in Surah Naml [chapter 27] verses 30 and 31. Sulayman [as] didn't start with in the name of the father, etc [trinity], but Bismillahir rRahmanir rRahiim.

Every prophet [as] before Jesus, and when it was the time of Jesus [as], he invited people to guidance not by father, son, holy ghost but One God, The Beneficent, The Merciful. I am Jesus the prophet of God. It is macof who made him God. this is your arrogant error. I call you to Islam as a man that may be old enough to have you as a son or nephew. do not die on disbelief. you are already warned by messengers of the last Messenger [SA].

bigfrancis21: Exactly. I wanted you to realize how silly you've been arguing since.

#Mirrors.

bigfrancis21: Oral histories are great sources of folk tales but are dynamically subject to that human aspect of paraphrasing till the original and true story is almost totally distorted.

I understand that you're trying to be loyal to your culture but come to think of it, which deep-thinking man who's self aware and knows who he truly is believes that his ancestor fell from the sky?

bigfrancis21: Exactly, Igbo and Yoruba are not the same language or dialect but I'm free to classify yoruba as an Igbo sub group baa? Afterall, there are so many Igbo words common to Yoruba such as Nti/Eti, gbajie/baje, ozugo/otito, onu/enu. Yoruba is to Igbo what Ekpeye in Rivers state is to Igbo.

Pastor Olu T: U are right about one thing, u cant teach man God which is the mistake many make. U can only tell someone about God n they discover Him the,selves by having a personal relationship with Him it takes God to reveal God, and that no man can do.

We dont find God from ourselves, we dont start from ourselves, we start from Jesus Christ, any n every other thing aside from that will lead u astray n can even be disastrous.

FrancisTony: it's old testament and not new testament.

harbiola1: I'ven't known much on this, but Sabbath day in the bible is Rest or Worship day.

aManFromMars: Someone accepts this and yet claims to be an atheist. Amazing times we live in.

Joshthefirst: so olofin is the supreme being? Good. Thank you.

StarFlux: This whole thread is ridiculous. I see people claiming Edo to be a dialect of Yoruba and so on. Edo and Yoruba are two distinct languages, fairly different from each other.

Just because you find similar words here and there does not mean these languages are the same or dialects of each other, tell me: have you ever come by a language that does not borrow words? Core vocabulary is still distinct.

bigfrancis21: I'm only being realistic here and also going by researched facts and findings, in addition to my own personal relationship with and observation of Edo state people, and not by some hearsay 'my great grand father in the village told me'.

harbiola1: Was Bible written according to the Jewish days or Roman days?

Jewish First day of the week starts from Friday Sunset and ends on Saturday Sunset.

harbiola1: @Macof, you need to dignify urself by avoiding an insult from me.

You can create a thread to settle ur issues with Islam, and not that u'll be behaving like a spook around.

Joshthefirst: sorry for butting in, I wanna ask some question:
Is olorun the supreme God in the yoruba traditionalist system?
What are his(its) characteristics?

nnofaith: I hope you guys remembered to give sango his vitamins yesterday?! follycraze and macjerkoff

FOLYKAZE: ^^^^ is this for real?

You were asked to define nourishment not consciousness.

You even cant define consciousness but ran to wiki and copied this trash. How is nourishment now consciousness? I dont know am dealing with a obfuscating nitwit and unrepentant goof.

I am done with you. Enjoy your foolishness

Pastor Olu T: Smile, Ok I dont know lecture me.

FrancisTony: Macof you're high on kunu. @you all i'm expecting more questions!.

FrancisTony: Lier

FrancisTony: dude! Go and die *In Oshiomole's voice*

harbiola1: ilah(god).
Ilah(God).

Al-Ilah(The God)