₦airaland Forum

We need 2 more MODS, Ones who would bring light and let truth prevail in this section- A Pagan MOD and well maybe atheist since they make this section light up with criticism and debates

That Completely Not A good thing cause it's a city and the roads are used by non-muslims who don't find Joy in that

I just saw that

Mynd first day u don start rubbish...why?

Joshthefirst: God would not come down to prove himself for arrogant foolish persons. He does not bother with them. You come to God on his terms, not on your terms. One wonders the kind of mind you have to think God will come down for you. He even sarcastically encourages you to continue in iniquity. Judgement day arrives. Let him who is righteous continue, him who is evil, continue.

Too bad I missed this thread before it reached this length.

So God doesn't even care

Wats this guy saying

plaetton: And mind you, Solomon was so wise that he rejected Yahweh and worshipped other gods.

That is something to think about.
Lol

True and these Christians say there's No other God when the wisest man in the Bible proved there are other Gods

This thread as been a whole load of bullpoo with this ladi spreading his confusion and delusion, Now let me see u continue

tintingz: Sorry still waiting where Moses said he founded judaism.

Moses(as) was not even from judah tribe but a levite.

Didn't u read my post or wat?

I never said Moses created judaism, he created the laws of judaism which had been in Israel from Yahwism before the Israelites were taken to Babylon

RoyPCain: @macof; i am personally happy to be a slave like muslims, arabs or non arabs to The One God Who created all and created man [Adam [as]] on friday between time of asr and magrib. you are proud and you are actually nothing. definitely the brain you worship has not helped you to simply research who the two judges of babatunde folorunsho and ishola oyenusi were. i met the son, my mother;s cousin and the father was my grandmother's younger brother.

you need not to respond here because your contribution as both atowun rinwa and irreligious is below the mark. arrogance will not save you from the clutches of death. you better she the cloth of satan you have made for yourself because death does not write a warning letter and when God commands the return of a soul, satan will abandon the disbeliever to the certain doom.

More rants From a slave. You should go do ur Arab duties and stop showing ur slave identity

Ajibam: the op

anyways,
plaeton, don't you know being an atheist you are already possessed by the demon of knowledge.. you let
your knowledge and human wisdom to overshadow the truth about God..
you are already possessed bro..
don't be ignorant if it...
look for a way out...
Jesus can help though

So God is against knowledge

Such Ridiculous Religion

So No more questions?

Mynd New MOD how come?

Ajibam: he want to..,
wetin you wan do?
abi, macof don initiate you?

ewo ni?

harbiola1: See how these Olodo*s* want to turn my thread into a story centre.

None of u've been able to answer a question since five days nw and you are talking about a man on Tv.
Have i made any claim here?
or when emusan started displaying church drama did i complain?

only one question is what u can't answer without twisting a bible.

Are u supposed to be having a thread here? Aren't u Muslim? Wat happened to Islam for muslims?

harbiola1: I just pity these christians because they don't know anything. They just adopted the hatred from Jews and start nursing it.

Baca, Pilgrimage, Well, ah ah somebody should reason nw.

Stop this rubbish
Nobody in the Bible went on pilgrimage to Mecca or Baca

tintingz: There are false prophets maybe the founder of judaism not the prophets chosen by God, not Moses(as) there is no where in the bible Moses mention "judaism" nor God declare judaism to be the faith of the people. The God of Moses is one God maybe the christian/jews god is multiple not the God Jesus(as) worshiped.

Shut up dude, wat do u know about fake prophets? Was ur Mohammed not fake?

Moses was Jew and he created the laws of the Jews which are still used and serve as the foundation of judaism.
however before the return from Babylon judaism wasn't wat it is now.
Yahwism was the religion of Israel, the same yahwism that Moses created.

so many books were lost, some were re-written. Even the Torah as it is today isn't the original. Any high and honest Rabbi would tell u some of the Torah were re-written with the much they could remember after the return from Babylon.

Read Deuteronomy carefully and see that it wasn't Moses who was explaining that but some Rabbinic Jew of the 4th century BC

ladionline: You are not looking for answers or truth, so I am not suprise by your conclution which clearly shows you are not Yoruba, but an impostor just as Terracotter had suspected. What Yoruba person will call laughter 'irerin'? You thought you have asked me an impossible question, I have answered you and you have change the standard. Now, what does IWO ELERU mean?

u just rumbling thrash

U are only trying by force by fire to link Yoruba to Semites

You say am not Yoruba lmao, because I am not as deluded and psycho as u are

Yisaki is a variant of the proper name Yisak. in Arabic-English "Is-haq"
Yisak seems more Hebrew

Really so u guys gist of me...interesting

oh so now 'irerin' isn't laughter in Yoruba. Am guessing in ur head 'isokun' is
My still waiting to see how u twist isokun into all this

Am not even arguing with u on ur mission through this addiction of yours to link Middle east as Yoruba origin

gothrones: Nope. He was born in Brooklyn, New York.



You haven't seen an Ethiopian Jew? Even you can convert to Judaism. It is a religion and a culture, not a race. It is interesting that you do not know that. But Sagan wasn't even an Israeli; he was born in the USA!

Being a Jew is as much an tribal identity as it is religious affiliation

Wat do u call people who adopt Hinduism? Hindi or Hindu yet that's the same tribal name for Indians

9jadelta: well, that depends on ur own definition of spiritualism.
telling me that sango could bend thunder without proof or hypothesis is bull poo anti science

O really but it's not bullpoo for a caucasian to tell u some energy charges convert to form thunder
Wat u can never prove

9jadelta: could u?

A Babalawo can using the concept of Sango

But of course it's bullpoo cause it's not caucasian poo

Pls am watching Isembaye right now and this Iyanifa has explained Sango many times

[quote author=Mynd_44]I am offering you Obatala [/quote]
I like this

Confusion in the house of Jesus and court of Jehovah

9jadelta: tell me one acceptable universal theory from African tradition that u and I can prove
and watch me repackage it for the world to see

please don't tell me about Sango bending lightening because there is no way I can prove that

Can u prove Electrical Energy causes charges that convert to lightening?

ladionline: Good, do you understand that masjid became mosque and then Mosalashi? English became Geesi, Anglican, as Aguda. Moreso Ahmad became Amodu and Creole became 'Kiriyo', which in Yoruba language means 'live on hawking'. As for yisaki, if a younger person laughs while playing with an elder, the elder may say 'o mboyin' or 'o mbo Saki'. 'Bo yin' is 'rerin', 'bo SAKI' is a fancy variant of rerin, meaning, laugh.

I hope are aware that Arabians were close partners with Oyo traders.

Saki is an Arab word and the Yoruba word for laugher is "Irerin" I still don't see "Isokun" in any of this

tintingz: Naah...the jews only practice what the prophets did, non of the prophets was the founder of judaism. It is a pity christians don't practice what Jesus did.

Zechariah or is it Zerubabel Can't remember the name or the correct spelling.

A Jew told me how The prophets after the return from Babylon reformed Yahwism- which Moses created into Judaism- religion of the Jews and first recognized monotheistic religion

Yh Yahwism wasn't monotheistic, if u read the Bible properly it's nt hidden well enough

PhysicsQED: First, I asked you to tell me if you had ever told any of your Edo friends some of the stuff you'd been saying on this thread and to tell me what their reaction is/was. You didn't answer that and instead went on to tell about what you were told by one random guy you met in Abuja one time.

Second, I asked you to tell me why you (for some reason) believed that the peoples of Akoko Edo saw themselves as being "the same with Yoruba" like that one guy from Abuja, but instead of answering that you went on to start telling me about stuff I didn't ask about like what lingua franca they use (if they had been next to lots of Hausa speakers, they might be speaking Hausa today as a lingua franca - would that somehow make them "sibling tribes" to the Hausa who somehow share the same origin with the Hausa?) or who you think they share an origin with.

Ok.
1. Every Edo born who knows his history and knows those his tribe has links with can't be surprised to hear that Edo and Owo Akure, Akoko-ondo are of the same ethnic group.

Today Owo, Akure, Akoko-Ondo are referred to as "Yoruba"
So wat makes Edo not in the same ethnic group with Yoruba people of today?

So their reaction is not to oppose but indifferent and such talks are Not always brought up by Me.

2. Because I see their relationship towards Yoruba of today
Akoko Edo people are always present in Akure cultural activities and also bini people are usually present


For u bringing up Hausa it shows that u are confused

Go to the North, Most non-Hausa communities that speak Hausa as a lingual franca are referred to as Hausa people, most of them don't even have a problem with them

You've probably never met anyone from Akoko Edo. I actually have and they don't even refer to themselves as all being "Akoko people" (at least not the ones I met) because that's not who they are, and they don't conflate themselves with the people in the Akoko area of Ondo. Please tell me which person from the Akoko Edo area told you that his people were "Akoko people" who were of the same ethnic group with the people in Ondo and what his explanation for this point of view was.

They refer to themselves with the name of their town, same with Ekiti people. An Ekiti would refer to himself with the name of his town.

Check above for the I've related that question

If you had a true interest in those people (in Akoko Edo) besides mentioning them for the purpose of muddling up already understood ethnic classifications, you too would see that, in fact, they are different peoples.

Do you not get that the "Akoko" label in the term "Akoko Edo" is just a geographic reference to tie them all together? It's not some sort of attempt to tie them ethnically to other groups of people in an area of another state (Ondo) who have different indigenous languages from them.

Geographical reference u say? Explain wat Geography brought them the name Akoko-Edo while u at that explain the same for Akoko-Ondo

And state how and why they are different as u claim

thehomer: e.g the effects on the moon, the tides and light. No, it is because the discoverers had better insight into the phenomenon than others. They actually did know more about gravity.

Lol they asked the Moon to know that abi?

thehomer: Those claims are mocked in other cultures so why should we mock those found in other cultures but not that found in African cultures if they're all incorrect?

Why don't you do your research and stop accepting every African bullpoo you're fed.

Have u ever researched on African theories to know it's bullpoo

mandarin: Your assertions are wrong sir. Please read and read more and ask questions. I think Macof meant Edo and Yoruba are the same people under a now known Yoruba larger umbrella. He said if you classify Bini, etsako etc as dialects , they are close to eastern Yoruba tongues but farther to Oyo Yoruba and that is true but it does not take the whole groups from being Yoruba if only you can see the word differently away from today's politicking.
Ilaje are different from Ijaw a whole lots, their dialects are closer to Itsekiri,Ijebu and Ikale. I have said people you observe the wave of word or linguist as you move up from Itsekiri to Ilaje, Ijebu up to Ekiti through Ondo and Owo upt to Yagba, Ijesa and Ife while variants of Oyo will become prominent as you move futher west. The eastern Yoruba country is more influenced by waves of kingdoms that were ancient than the western part.
Also remeber the word Yoruba was used to refer to the Oyo Yoruba initially but was adopted to refer to people with linked ancestral history, that is the link. I have a strong believe that the word OMO ODUDUWA refers to a people of the fused culture arrived at between the migrants and the indigenous people and did not refer to an individual person. It was a concept of fusion for good and to claim to belong to that is to show you allegiance to the success of cultural, religious and philosophical fusion of creation of the Ife.
So the link of Bini, Etsako etc to Ife makes them the same with the Yoruba though keeping their dialects and also being Kingdom builders

this brings me to another point... The appropriate Ethnic name should "omo Oodua" or "Ara Oodua"
the name "Oodua" or "Oduduwa" didnt first appear with the Great Oduduwa of Ife but the name is given to the land itself
Oduduwa is the orisha of Earth in Yoruba spirituality
and ile-Oodua was the name that unified everyone

thehomer: So what? Did those people around my village travel to Guinea to trace the route of the river?

go and ask them and stop internet study

thehomer: That isn't what I said. Knowing the laws of gravity is different from recognizing some of its effects. Just as knowing the laws of Mendelian inheritance is different from recognizing some of its effects.

wat effects hasnt been known from the beginning of time?

so because a white guy uses big words to explain wat everybody knows it makes him "captain know more about gravity"

thehomer: Can you give three examples of these already known theories from African traditions that are mocked and dismissed?

Creation story, medications and healing, Relationship with man and Nature
just to mention a few

if u are african, go do ur research and stop accepting every Caucasian bullpoo u are fed