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Once you follow ur consciousness and spread love all,negative forces aka demons have no business with you

I don't think you can get explicit information from any book. In this generation, Ifa secrets is only open to initiates.

To know the context of Ifa you need to be a Babalawo, not by reading books or online articles.

The verses of Ifa are called Odu-Ifa and they all carry a story with hold several interpretations which only a Babalawo can decipher

FrancisTony: Triple tuale Sir!! Fabulous

Lol see this one

Wat u could never do is wat u reading now
I always tell u dat you don't know anything.

Slimmos: Idio*t keep shut..........i knew u will post sumtin stupid...

why should he shut up No one should mock the Gods of their ancestors

lisasonesis: If u are talking about my Jesus u are wrong.
Jesus is ALIVE. even demons, evil spirits, amadioha n d rest of them know this truth and the tremble at d mention of His name.

There's a way that seem right unto a man but d end is destruction. my dear come to the living God who made the heavens n the earth. seek Him while it's day. There's no life n salvation in any other, only Jesus has the power to save. believe it or not the end will convince u.

Jesus is alive As a Zombie or Vampire? Cause No one who lived 2000yrs ago can still be alive

Yes Amadioha respects the name "Jesus" because it means "praise zeus"


Believe this one or not, before the end you would be convinced....Yeshua is dead, No one even calls his name.
He failed and was a failure. Even as the Christian patriarch he still fails because His name...which is suppose to be above all names is Not none talkless of called

[quote author=@timilehyin01]I don't know wat d argument is abt..dough I still find it hard to blive dat @dis era some pple still worship bushes en trees..even d dibias,babalawos en so called gods know deres only one jehova..bt never d less d @ d last day we will see..may God open ur eyes of understanding[/quote]Yes Babalawo the Christians and hear them shout "Jehovah"
But they know No Jehovah, because Olodumare is the Supreme and No Jehovah exist in a Babalawo's dictionary

don kross: mr Okija like u don't know he resurrected on 3rd day. He went in to d tomb, saw death and conquered death. Why not quit following dz man made gods and follow d only Living God. [/b]See d name sef Okija (it sounds gibberish) but [b]the name Jesus is the sweetest name of all time.

so many ignorant fellows in Nigeria

The Gods ur ancestors worshipped is wat u call man made. Well let me even agree with u that Amadioha is man made.

Is electric charge that causes lightening, thunder and sends signals around ur body also man made?

You should know that "Jesus".never existed. "Iesous" means Praise Zeus.

The name was created by Romans in honor of their Great God- Zeus

The dead Jew's real name is Yeshua not Jesus

Again with this Igbo thing

Listen Francis u not edo neither are u from the west. So I can say all these things are New to u and ur opinion is worthless.

it's Owo not Iwo. Iwo is a town in Osun state the other Iwo is extinct

Igbo has No cultural, linguistic, traditional or historical link with Oyo.

Bringing English and igbo shows that u don't know anything
Does American English mean that Americans are English by ethnicity?
Or Does Mexican Spanish mean that Mexicans are Spanish by ethnicity?

I always use language for u because I know u like seeing languages but language isn't all that matters in ethnicity or tribal affiliation.
Edo aren't Yoruba but they are in the same ethnic group.
Owo are Yoruba but they are in the same ethnic group
Ijebu aren't Yoruba but they arw in the same ethnic group
Isekiri aren't Yoruba but they are in the same ethnic group
Since Edo and Isekiri refuse to take the name "Yoruba" doesn't mean we are different.

Common Origin, Cultural, Traditional, Historical and linguistical ties exist between All the people.

Oyo might not be tied to Isekiri in anyway but Ijebu and Ondo is.
Oyo might not be tied to Bini but Ife, Owo, Akure is
Oyo might not be tied to Yagba/Okun but Ekiti and Igbomina is
Oyo might not be tied to Ilaje but Ijesha, Ife and Ondo is

Can u see the link? Oyo isn't the issue it's everyone that has ties with someone else.

I perceived it useless arguing with u from the beginning but for the sake of other Nairalanders I continued, Now I've said all I....unless u want Audios
Let an Edo Person come on the thread let's talk instead of you- An Igbo

bigfrancis21: @bold...thank you. That's all I need to hear. Finally you've acceded to the truth.

That's not the first time I posted it.
That's wat I've been saying since, as I said "ur mentality is wired to see threats from Yoruba" so you've been saying threats from me where there's none.

RoyPCain: Macof forgot that Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo from Abeokuta said what i said about the yorubas from Makka. so were many elders, including some yoruba kings that I come from thrie bloodlines. I now see that you are just borrowing the yoruba language and none of it floors in your blood. i will leave you alone because you might have come from those who foot kick their elders to wake him up.

Really? Obj said so? Well dats his bizness, humans can say anything they like. Speak Ooni ti Ife if you need history lessons. Go to ekiti, the longest running settlement in yorubaland, they would tell u Yoruba history.

This one is talking Mecca, I don't blame u it's Oyo I blame. They didn't restrict all those Muslims coming in from Arabia and Fulah.

Ile-Ife is the only Yoruba origin there is.

@topstar80: is prophesy the only indicator of a prophet in the Bible? if so, name as many prophet you know in the Bible and give us the prophesy of each. after you have done that, tell me the prophesy of John the Baptist. Tell me the prophesy of Jesus. is there anything any one of the prophets you will list said that never came to pass? when Jesus said John is Elijah and John said he wasn't, considering that John baptized Jesus who said john is the greatest prophet born of a woman/man up to that point, which of them is wrong since they were on opposite sides or were they both right about Elijah's second coming?

i want you to make best effort response. in fact, get a big pastor to address this issue.

Prophet Noah; what was his prophesy?
Prophet Abraham, the Personal Friend of God and father of faith, not faiths, what was his prophesy?

Jacob who fought God and overcame God and man, what was his prophesy?
Joseph. what was his prophesy?


You have to walk the gauntlet, now.

Ur quran is so flawed, I don't see how a sensible individual can take that book seriously
Every top character in the Bible ur quran just copied ignorantly and tagged as "prophet"

Imagine David is a prophet in quran
Such silliness

So no more issues.

Nofaith wat happened wit ur "copy and paste"?

OT God is total fiction.

I remember one verse, God came came down to curse Mariam
Seriously only religiously foolish people would take Yahweh as a skydaddy living in space

FrancisTony: shut the "F". Smellos

Prove me wrong

ammyluv2002: They are not the same now

U right. Odo Osun is much more potent

FOLYKAZE: We are all atheist. The reason you dont believe in Abrahamic Gods is the reason they rejected your own Gods.

Reason with them.... Ifa said 'ti orisa o gbe ni, a ma n pati ni' meaning of a divinity is not beneficiary to you, you can neglect it.

African spirituality welcome every human including atheist, satanist and the theist. If you dont believe in my Orisa, you can dine with me. If you believe in my Orisa, we worship together. There is this saying that 'Eyi wu mi o wu ọ' meaning what it is good for me might be bad for you. So we are entitled as African to remove religion and believe which divide us. We are all human.

I cant blame atheist for their take and stance. It is good to reason. Though there are dogmatic white men slave like wiegraf and nnofaith. Logicboy, platteon and others are still open minded. If there is evidence for a god today, i'm very sure they will change their mindset. My point exactly is that Ifa said 'ori eni la bo, aba fi orisa sile....nigba ti iku ba de, ori eni ni ku ni ku....ori eni ni orisa eni' meaning we should have venerate our consciousness rather than any divinity, when death came around, it would be you and your consciousness.....your consciousness is your own divinity.

Atheist practically hold onto their consciousness. They apply logic and reasons. I think the enemy of my enemy is my best friend. Pagan and spirituality is the little step I can rest on....as an atheist too.....we are one.

I love this piece.
You talk the truth

ti Ori eni ba da ona yi gba ki amaa soro buruku si

But wat happens if his path is not of his consciousness? I see many doing things because others do it or many other factors that are not suppose to matter to an individual

Evil Brain: Western science? So science and rationality belong exclusively to oyimbos now?

I suppose you also think being a superstitious môron is required to be a true African.

N.B. Its not ironic at all that you can call others "slaves to western science" just because they don't buy your western religion.

u mis-understood.

I simply meant if an oyinbo scientist hasn't said something, NL atheist won't believe. They won't do the research and give philosophies themselves.
They don't think for themselves as Atheism should be.

Ps. I am pagan not a wanna bee Jew

wat freaking proof is this one asking?
As I said before, I am not claiming Edo for Yoruba- it's all up in ur head as ur mentality is wired to see threats coming from Yoruba side

I simply say "Edo is as non-Yoruba as Ekiti, Owo and so many other non-Oyo"

So if u claim edo is not in the same ethnic group you should also claim Ijesha, Ijebu, Owo, Yagba, Igbomina etc. are not part of the same ethnic group

I have traveled to all major Towns in yorubaland(as it is known today).
Since you like lanuguages. Here's a distinction in the basic words

Greetings
Eko Awori- Bawo ni
Ijebu- Eweso
Ekiti- Era
Ibadan- Enle
Yagba- Okun
Oyo- Eku...
Egba- Bawa
Yewa- Kitigbe

All different words, only similar ones are Egba/Awori

Let me tell u about Akoko...they pay homoge to Oba of Bini, as they have always because they are also half bini in Origin. They greet him in Yoruba(Oyo) and responds with blessings.
Akoko people don't speak bini or any language other than Akoko and Yoruba(Oyo).

In Europe, The Romans spoke Greek and also wrote in Greek as it even seemed Greek was on equal usage with Latin and not as an established No. 2.

The Akoko also speak Oyo not as a No. 2 but on the same level with their own language.

And there are No akoko in Ogun state, I don't know where u get dat from

RoyPCain: macof if you are an authentic yoruba man and not just an atowun rewa who is speaking yoruba, you must have heard from the elders that yorubas were from Makka. even if it is a fable. they didn't extend it to say we are from the jews. you mr. have no business with the jews. so who really is the slave here? i have met arabs that could fit in any yoruba family; kuwait and many others. even sudanese are into the pele meta meta.

i think i am talking a person who needs to know about the yorubas here. unfortunately, you cant present a decent argument about your religion, too.

Lmao are u a slave trying to tell me- A bonified son of the land wat being a Yoruba is?

Lol Keep showing off ur Sire to the Arabs, you even claim elders say Mecca is Yoruba origin eleyi ma ga o, Eru gbongbon gidi

noblefada: @macof & @harbibola, I've extensively dealt with the issue of Christians worshipping on Sunday & not Saturday, Sabbath before but can't remember the thread now but to summarise, you all know that the early disciples & apostles were practising Jews including Paul. Now Paul because of his zeal to preach the gospel to all people including Jews, wanted them to partake in his teaching sections and not offend some of them, made Christians to meet on the first day of the week (Sunday), while himself went to the synagogue on Sabbath day, so the gentile churches who knew little or nothing about the law simply continued that tradition. Shalom.

Bull crap.

The gentiles have always worshipped on Sundays and it has nothing too do with Paul.

Paul himself was half Jew, Half Mithrait.
He also worshipped on Sundays

It's got nothing to do with Jesus

ladionline: To me, Ado was the person who organise the southward journey that led to discovery of Yorubaland. He was the youth leader while Odu'a was the Mother superior. Adimu is identical with Adamu Orisha, Eyo ile Ola. Look at Eyo dresscode. Thats Adimu, someone spotting 'hijab' like Rachael, wife of Isaac. Thats how or why Yoruba bride often cover their face on the day of their espousal, like Rachael. [IKO, CA] Laba [ekun] resonates with Laban, the father of Rachael. Ekun maa fara sinko, Iwaju ekun ina, eyin ekun oorun, aboju wo, abese wo. A ri gini, a rin gini. Arin gini-gini w'oja. - 'E-suwa!

Omg! Such pathetic stuff from one who claims to know Yoruba history.

And Rachel is Isaac's daughter-in-law and not Wife

It's the day to honor the Sun God.
We do it by sacrifice to him
Sharing gifts and showing love is that sacrifice. No matter wat u call it, it's still to honor the God of the Sun who has blessed earth the most.

Merry Christmas.
All hail the Sun God

harbiola1: Excuse me! i need a well versed, intelligent christian to discuss the issue of Lot and his daughters with.
I've a problem with that verse.

abiola learning about christianity with such passion.
You go soon do pastor so u go dey collect tithe money

For some reasons I agree with the topic.

I feel atheist, at least the NL ones are zombies who can't reason and aren't rational at all.

They are common puppets to western science

Joagbaje: What is your reason and fact? Remember many people believed Jesus was fraud too. So don't judge after flesh judge by the word . What is your word based reason?

I don't know for the guy o
So quick to judge.

Well we all know that the Christian motto is "if you not like us u are doomed"

So because in his church they don't use such it has become evil that No pastor should do

Rubbish wat Osun river does is wat people are killing themselves for

wiegraf: You do that. Get that rock, or electricity, and have a serious conversation with minds greater than yours.

I hope u do same

FOWOSIRE: Yeah thanks for the info, though my suggestion was based on mary and not queen mary ( whoever that is), but I will assume we are talking about the same person. And backtracing her origin does not end with the immediate previous generation.


And seriously, don't you think it will be more cool if he truely was from Naij? Azzin the salvation of the world coming through Naij?
Well I for one will be honoured

Ok.
in christianity, Mary is the Queen of heaven. Though am not Christian and couldn't care less wat or where yeshua or maryam come from I just like playing along sometimes

FrancisTony: smh! Dude stop fabricating lies. In act the disciples worshipped in the first day of the week and it's sunday.

That's wat u always say
That am lying, am lying.

If u study on these things I stated you would find out they are true.

But of course, your brain is locked inside a fictional book called "Bible" I wonder wat the name means sef

truthislight: People really need to get the sense of what the bible said about Adam and what Happend in Eden and the significance of Yahweh driving Adam and eve out.

Why Jesus had to come.

Churches wount teach people simple truth, but concentrate on money money money, all the time.

The Jews don't attribute only Yahweh with that fit
It's the entire council of the Elohim.
In Hebrew Bible
Genesis 1-11 made use of "Elohim".

The first appearance of Yahweh was as "El Shaddai" in Genesis 12:1. Where "Lord" appears in Kjv

FrancisTony: you're daft. First day of our week is sunday and we suppose to worship on our first day of the week not following jewish calender. Mofo

And is it u dat isn't daft?

Yahweh who should be ur God(we all know christianity is confused about it's God) was worshipped on the sabbath day in ur Bible. U disobey and hell is waiting for u.

In Rome, so many Gods were honored. Gods from Egypt, Greece and Mithra from Persia. Horus and Mithra's festivals were held 25th December. And Sunday of every week was the day of Sun-Day Worship. The God of Sun being Mithra and Tabs weren't held against Honoring Zeus and Horus too.
Kemetian Gods are associated with the Sun and Horus was worshiped according to the Kemetian rights. Zeus being the head God in Roman territory was also honored during all festivals

Nowenuse: I think som of u r quite mistakin it. In some parts of Edo state, yoruba is used as a general language, especially in Akoko-edo LGA, parts of Edo north senatorial district. These ppl share boundary with Ondo n Kogi state.
In Akoko-edo and Owan east nd west LGAs, many of dem use yoruba as a lingua franca, they are not one tribe but different tribes. Any igarra person u find from Akoko-edo LGA is fluent in his language (igarra) and also yoruba.
What makes a language a second language is d fact dat u can learn it from ur own hometown which r not natives of d language. Just like Platea or Nasarawa ppl, these ppl r not hausas at all, they have their own various languages but use hausa as a general language amongst demselvs, so they grow up learning hausa in their own hometown and home-villages which r not natively hausas. Same tin with som ppl of Edo north. They evn answer yoruba names very very well.
Anybody who hv stayed in these places nd lived with d ppl can attest 2it. Though the yoruba they speak does not affect their own individual native languages and cultures.

Good point to throw in

I think Akoko people are hybrids of Akure and Bini because there's a blend of both cultures but Akoko speaks Yoruba(Oyo) as a second language not even Bini or Akure.

Wats happening in the North is also something to think about. Most(if not all) Bariba tribe people of the Borgu ethnic group speaks Hausa as a second language and Yoruba(Oyo) as Third. They learn these languages in their own town not in Kano or Lagos.

Same with Nupe