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ikkings: I knew there was something wrong with Zuma game, the images and the sound that comes from the frog at the end of each game is just not normal. I wonder what the sound is, I tried to listen hard to what is said at the end of the game, but I could not make anything out of it, for that I uninstalled the game.

because u feared Zuma has demons

bigfrancis21: Thank you. I bet you he has never met anyone before. Just spewing ignorance on an online forum. I currently have an Edo friend and I asked him questions last night and he rejected outright that he's yoruba. That Edos are not yorubas. My coursemate in the University is Bini and a very proud one for that matter. I also know a corper from Edo state who says he's Eshan.

I just don't know what some people gain from ignorance and illusion.

Again showing ur lack of understanding

No one ever said Edo is yoruba
heck I even gave u reasons why Ekiti, Ilaje and owo are not yoruba

so you the one showing ur ignorance and illusion

PhysicsQED: I've read this thread yet again and I'm still surprised at the drawn out arguments and over-complication of such a simple matter.

Macof, I have one simple question for you: do you know at least one Edo person in real life?

my aunt is married to Isan
I have tens of friends from Edo
My ex is from Akoko

I am well into Edo people

MetaPhysical: I asked the same question from Ladi. After his answer I followed his response and dug into more materials and found more things that were not initially related to my probe but from which arose new branches of knowledge.



Waddai, Wadi, Ouda, these are all synonymous names in the Sudan and Ethiopic lands, as well into the Sahara region for a river or valley.

It is also synonymous with Yoruba's name for a river - Odo.

Lets put the geography of Sudan in perspective. If I say I come from Kano, what comes to your mind? You will not ask if im from Hausaland because Kano and Hausaland are interchangeable. You will not ask if i speak hausa because thats the only official language, but you will want to know if im Fulani or Hausa. We should approach the discussion of Sudan with similar stereotypes. Sudan is like saying hausaland; egypt is like saying kano; semitic is like saying hausa language and semitic/hamitic is like saying hausa/fulani.

Egypt was one of the states under Sudan, there were other states. Nobody says much about Bauchi state because Kano has remained the principal hausa city state and in political and cultural talks it is always at fore front.

Axum (Kush) was the principal parent dynasty to the Sudan. Similarly, Kano was never the origin of hausa states, their origin came from Daura city (Hausa).

There was the Egyptian civilization which later overtook its parent civilization, Kush; just as Fulani overtook its overlords, the Hausas.

There were two capitals in the Egyptian Empire, an upper Egypt with capital in Djebe and lower Egypt with capital in Memphis. Similarly, Fulani sultanate have two capitals, Sokoto and Wurno.

Now, Abuja is a Gwari town, they are not Hausas or Fulanis and they are majority muslims. If we should find a town in Abuja , for example, called Wurno, should this not be understood as the effect of migration and political attrition? By the way, Wurno, the Fulani capital, is not in Nigeria.

Its a waste of time to use this method to give a breakdown of how, if on admission Ijebu is from waddai, then it is perfectly okay to theorize that majidun is a copy of magiddo..moreso that waddai is synonymous with odo in yoruba. The waddai in the Ijebu history will also give credence to the question of their penchant for monopolizing and tolling waterways.
We now know where that trait came from, they were historically valley and waterbed dwellers.




Edo people are different from Bini. The difference between the two can also be seen in Lagos between the Idejo Chiefs on one hand and the Akarigbere/Ogalade/Oluwo/Abagbon Chiefs on the other.

The Akarigbere/Ogalade/Oluwoand Abagbon are the attendant chiefs of the Bini dynasty whereas the Idejo chiefs are the attendants of the Olofin dynasty. Olofin and his chiefs are the land barons. Oba of Lagos and his chiefs are the throne owners.

Similarly Edo is the Ogiso culture and land owner, Bini is the Ife settler and throne owner.

On whether Edo is Edomite or not, Im following a path and building my own theory. It is not set in stone and definitely not designed for anyone's consumption. When I have precise facts that support these theories I will not bother bringing it to nl..i can make good money going to press.




[b]I think its a great insult to keep referring to a land steeped in greatness and centuries of civilization as "a land of anger". Our ancestors give reflection and deep thought to naming standards. When naming a town they invite their ancestors and call on the cosmic forces to bear witness as they sanctify and baptize the land on which they are settling into, they pour libation and ask for all the four corners of earth to bring in prosperity to their settlement and its community and homesteads. Can you imagine them going through all that trouble only to give it a name attributing negative emotions?

C'mon! I suspect one of the earlier European writers on African history must have enquired from someone ill informed and the answer given found its way into print and has never been debunked by Bini scholars because they would have to use a semitic term to properly define it, a very unpopular position.

Think for a moment what the title of the Oba of Bini is - Omo n' Oba. The only civilization in Nigeria or anywhere in West Africa for that matter that uses Oba is Yoruba. Omo n' Oba would be in this case heir to the throne. We need to know whivh throne he is heir to. This is his legitimacy to Ife. Ife on the other hand acknowledges a positive paternal link in saying Bini. Have you heard Yoruba used the word Omo abinibi? Bibi, bini, bi, are all synonymous Yoruba words for child or one reproduced.[/b]

On the mother side of that is Iye, iya, aye..all synonymous for mother or sustainer of life.

Similarly we have Abba, baba, ba..for seeder or authority of manifest.




This is new to me. I guess this must be your theory, I will read up on it.



Which brings me back to beginning. Who is Ado and whats his connection with Ado Ekiti or any Ado township in Yorubaland?

To the bold- True much were taken into consideration when naming a city but Oranmiyan had no time for "consideration" even "Oyo-ile" means "slippery ground". I heard the word "bini" came from "ubini" as wat the Isekiri called them. the bini reffered to themselves as "Ovioba" later "oviedo".

I suspect that "Ado" is the same as "Eko" in a different languages but i could be wrong Eko originally means "cassava farmland" in Oyo and Awori languages but to the Edo they referred "Eko" to mean "camp". Ado means "our camp" in Ekiti language

I think the "Omo n'Oba" title came from Eweka 1, who was the infant child of Oranmiyan. It must have been a nickname given to Eweka before the name "Eweka" was given to him

bigfrancis21: LOL. Someone sounds like I got on some nerves real hard.

So because I'm Igbo, I shouldn't expand my knowledge and know about other and outside cultures? Says Mr. Macof, the all-knowing-judge?

Of course I brought in Igbo and English, to mirror to you how poorly correlated and organized your logic is. And I gave perfect examples of 'macof's all-knowing logic' and how it crumpled up like a pack of fallen cards in the light of evidence. I whipped your weak logic and reasoning real good.

You need an Edo person right? StarFlux already objected to you since. Go back a few posts and read his post.

Keep on being the embodiment of ignorance and recalcitrance which you want to be.

As Ive said ur opinion is worthless

Coldfeet: So u believe in demons? Halleluia!!!!

I believe in negative Energy
theres Negative charge, Positive charge and Neutral. when u dont keep them all in balance, Everything wouldnt go right, and NEGATIVE ENERGY is dominant.

harbiola1: You can never be serious.
Awon Igba Irunmole n jeun lori yin

Awon Irunmole n gbe aye leyin Eledua, aye osi fun nkan to so yen

don kross: . U should know better dan dz nw bros. Only a fool will argue with a fool sha. Dassol

Yes of course I know that...that's why am educating you and NOT arguing with you...an argument with you would be like getting an elephant to pass through a needle.

Wat I gave u there is raw fact. Research on it, you would be surprised wat u find

Obi1kenobi: You've quoted one man who made a highly controversial comment that was dismissed by several of his colleagues - including his own research lab and his research funders - and you proclaim it here repetitively as if it's a widely accepted scientific theory. Are you thick?

What kind of evidence do you want? Pictures from 100,000 BC? You think the same humans roaming the earth now existed in the age of the dinosaurs? There are tons and tons of literature about evolution around. Educate yourself and quit exposing your ignorance about the subject.

You can educate us if you know any African philosophy in fields of science. As it is, the West is the current bedrock of science - so they naturally dominate. There's a reason all those scientists in your physics and chemistry books are products of Western culture. Instead of your aimless ramblings, educate us on these African philosophies so we can learn.

More aimless rambling.

To the bold- you know this but you were playing dumb when I said "western science" when u knew exactly wat I meant.

Such Criminal attitude

Ajibam: inasmuch you deny Christ as your Lord and Saviour... you are a pagan!!
military atheist or spiritual or whatever....
Jesus loves you..
repent to him now

Whether u like it or Not

Jesus can't save a common rat

Ajibam: exactly.. those who love it will do things that will get them there like denying the Lordship of my christ Jesus..
i use the bible to think?
yes! i am not ashame of it.. it shines light to my path.
and my your greatest wisdom is just the weakest foolishness to God.. so, whose brain is shut down??

Those who love hell are those who can't stop thinking about it.

It's them who would bask in the inferno of hell

Ajibam: op..
christianity is not an abrahamic religion... as the name implies, it is from Christ.
now, let me clear your doubt..
religion is a plan to get to God.. but Christ has serve as the bridge back to God,, we that follow the way he taught us, which is through him are called christians.. other people that dont believe this Jesus as a way to God are still under the bondage of religion...
shalom

so quick to disaffiliate christianity from abrahamism.

You are just in baseless denial, Christianity is an Abrahamic religion that professes Yahweh-the God of the Jews as it's God

Ajibam: folykaze and others that don't know how the gospel books came to existence..
read carefully

so that's it

Goes to prove that the so called gospel is bullcrap and hear say. None of the writers actually had a relationship with yeshua

Obadiah wat crazi drink made u put this on front page When we have threads.like this >>> www.nairaland.com/1556154/sango-electrical-energy.a-debate-btw

don kross: . FYI. I didn't believe in God cos I read about books or watched movies. I believe in Him cos he created me, He is my father, I believe Him cos I see his hands in every part of ma life. Only a fool says in his foolish mind dat der is no God.

You believe he created u, you believe he is ur father, you believe he even exist because you read it in a book.

Another claims Zeus is the creator, and book claims Olodumare is the creator.

But you disbelieve those ones and believe the book that says Yahweh is creator.

So you are a foolish hypocrite to dismiss other books when ur own book has nothing to prove it's authenticity

Only a fool says in his foolish dead mind that there's No other God

don kross: . Silent........... I keel you........ Hehehehe kidding tho, u r entitled to ur opinion buh remember Jesus is the way, the truth and without him in ya life, its 1st class ticket to hell oo

this is not my opinion but raw undiluted fact and truth.

No one named "jesus" ever lived until the 12th century there about when Spanish kids were born and given the name "Jesus"(pronounced "E-Zus"

The Transliteral origin of the name is the Latin-Greek "Iesous" (pronounced "HiE-Zus" meaning "praise Zeus"

don kross: . U juz called me a fool. Silence is the best answer not violence. May God forgive u for u know not wat u r saying.

You proved urself a fool by not realizing how u shoot urself on the foot

it's foolish hypocrisy that makes a person say I shouldn't believe a God because I watch it on TV and read it in books while that person actually believes another God because he read it in a book

thehomer: What is an Ori?

The greatest gift to all living organism...

Wat can I say?

Am shocked

Let's all "Hail Zeus"

Guys don't get it wrong

think carefully and deep about it. Allah or Yahweh didn't order such things, it's MEN who did it out of their own wicked thoughts and lied against gods.

Moses was never sent to kill all those people, the Jews were deceived to believe that Yahweh was instructing Moses all along.

Mohammed's case is the same, Allah was already worshipped in Arabia, why would Allah send a man to kill people? Is he not powerful enough? Mohammed even said he was a second Moses and had gained inspiration from the Jews.

Hell exist on in the Bible and in the minds of those who have shut down their brains and use Bible to think.

Those you love hell are the ones that would burn in it

Though I haven't read the book but I have read some summary of it.

It simply entails how ancient Israel and canaanland used advanced science aka juju.

Moses was a master juju artist as he learned all from Kemet. The rod to snake, the blood in the nile river, the splitin of the red sea, the leprosy of Mariam all are juju that our African tradition has too

don kross: Guy wen r u gon stop dz sjit u r talking bout Yeshua. Who d hell is Yeshua. It is JESUS. That wonderful name, the name above all names, the prince of peace.

All I can say is...

Jesus that u don't know yeshua

And of course "Jesus" that is "Iesous" in Greek means
Hail Zeus!

FrancisTony: mstcheew
This question is pathetic 'cos i dnt know why u're asking it.

I told u dat u don't know anything

CAPTIVATOR: ....So a Serpent can Speak on its own Ryt! ...Haha, Which history do u read wey tell U say John don die when Revelations was written...U Critics, Dats Hw u accuse Isaiahs Prophecy of afterevent Writing WHEN U SEE D CLEAR FULFILMENT OF ISAIAHS PROPHECY in d case of ANCIENT BABYLON! #SMILES# GODWORD IS TRUTH !

Ask the Jews who own the Bible

don kross: . Thank the heavens that u know amadioha is a man made god but I still don't understand where u r coming from. Are you saying u believe in all dos zeus cos u see it in movies, bro dos gods are mere fairytales n fabrications. Wake up n see clearly in Jesus name.

I didnt say amadioha is man made. I just don't want to argue with anybody on the personality of Amadioha.

But tell me is lightening and thunder man-made?

If u think amadioha is man-made but think Jesus isn't then u must be a fool.

Why can't someone believe zeus because he reads and watches them in movies Isn't it the same way u believe Jesus?

Jesus is as fabricated as Zeus and even more...

It's official, I've noted ur Moniker to be that of a silly and foolish hypocrite

which Towns are ur cousins kings?

I've told u before You are an Arab slave and You know it

Divepen: Deceit

See mumu

demons are already working on u

thehomer: What do you believe as a pagan?

My Ori is wat I believe in

thehomer: The theory of evolution is also a scientific theory. The fact that the discoverer was a European doesn't make it less true.

Yh but if it was African NL atheist would call it BS

Mr Troll: @macof, until you stop using anything developed by the oyinbo, you remain a pathetic hypocrite.

Science now has african and western versions. Lmao, nothing person no go hear!

This is not about using things developed by them. Its about accepting anything that comes from them, without even using ur head. Anything that hasnt been proven by oyinbo is bullpoo. Why cant NL athiest go and research and get their own philosophies to disprove or prove things l
Besides in my knowledge it's Japan that developed electronic device

Tell wat African philosophy u have ever accepted?

As much as I enjoy this your discussions I just have to say It's a whole load of crab

Ikorodu is an Ijebu town, wat has Ado got to do with Ikorodu.

Ogboroganda the 3rd king of ijebu came from Nubia territory of Waddai
He got to Ife and was incorporated, he adopted the Ife spirituality and left southwards on Ifa's advice.
He landed in a city called Iwa, there he was named Obanta and defeated the king who was later called Ijasi "Ija-Osi" No more battle.

Ijebu people formerly occupied the present day South Sudan which was at a time a colony of Ethiopia.
Queen of Sheba- Bilkis was from that area and the Ijebu's coming from their former home to Ijebuland still kept her in their memory. Sungbo is built in honor of Bilikisu, and the Ijebu people claim she was buried there.

Edomites have nothing to do with Edo.
Edo is the name of the bini people.
Oranmiyan left Igodomigodo in anger and called their land "ile-binu“
An Oba of Bini from the 18th century was saved by a servant called "Edo" while he was still a prince, Edo lost his life for his future king and When The prince became Oba he changed the nations name to "Edo" in honor of his dead friend/servant. The name "Edo" didn't exist until the 18th century, so get ur facts right before u start making silly assumptions.

As much as I won't like to dismiss one of the Orunmila's having "Ado" as his real name. I think there's a confusion
Orunmila left Ile and settled in Ilesun, one of his children was Ewi. Later on in history, A Benin prince came and overtook ilesun, renamed it "Ado". Ado-Ekiti