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Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2013
[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Abraham had the seed of God in Him, but He needed to be born again to enter into Gods final rest! I know you never bother to study the bible, so let me enlighten you a little: God imputed unto Abraham, his righteousness because He believed God. Jesus, went to the grave to release the captives because Gods new order require all to be born of the Spirit and no man can be born of the spirit unless He first receive the news of Christ sacrifice on the cross.[/quote]So God changes the mode of salvation every Ones in a while.

2000BC Christ was not needed, God just picks who he likes and puts righteousness then wat happens to others?

So now that Christ is needed, Jesus had to go the grave to free those with righteousness like Abraham, Moses and David.


Hey wat about ur ancestors who were Africans and didn't care about the Judaic concept of God?

wat about important historic figures; Oranmiyan was the Great prince of Ile-Ife and father of the Oyos, he served the Gods of yorubaland and never cared for any foreign God much less Yahweh of Israel

Alexander the Great is practically the most successful warrior in world history he was devoted to Athena and probably never heard of Yahweh.

Wat happens to this kind of people? Who didn't even know Yahweh talk less of having Yahweh put righteousness in them.

Ur ancestors didn't have Yahweh righteousness

The founding fathers of ur village didn't have Yahweh's righteousness

So wat happens to them?

how about Elijah dat majestically entered heaven on a chariot? did Jesus also go to grave for him or no need? grin


Pls answers
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 7:15pm On Dec 01, 2013
[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Abraham had the seed of God in Him, but He needed to be born again to enter into Gods final rest! I know you never bother to study the bible, so let me enlighten you a little: God imputed unto Abraham, his righteousness because He believed God. Jesus, went to the grave to release the captives because Gods new order require all to be born of the Spirit and no man can be born of the spirit unless He first receive the news of Christ sacrifice on the cross.[/quote]So God changes the mode of salvation every Ones in a while.

2000BC Christ was not needed, God just picks who he likes and puts righteousness then wat happens to others?

So now that Christ is needed, Jesus had to go the grave to free those with righteousness like Abraham, Moses and David.


Hey wat about ur ancestors who were Africans and didn't care about the Judaic concept of God?

wat about important historic figures; Oranmiyan was the Great prince of Ile-Ife and father of the Oyos, he served the Gods of yorubaland and never cared for any foreign God much less Yahweh of Israel

Alexander the Great is practically the most successful warrior in world history he was devoted to Athena and probably never heard of Yahweh.

Wat happens to this kind of people? Who didn't even know Yahweh talk less of having Yahweh put righteousness in them.

Ur ancestors didn't have Yahweh righteousness

The founding fathers of ur village didn't have Yahweh's righteousness

So wat happens to them?

how about Elijah dat majestically entered heaven on a chariot? did Jesus also go to grave for him or no need? grin


Pls answers
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:40pm On Dec 01, 2013
rigormortis: muslims and christians are not going to the same place

their idea of heaven is different

1. muslims enter heaven with a hard-on. xtians dont

2. no marriage in xtian heaven. muslims have 72 holes to tear up

3. bomb yourself as a muslim and its straight into the arms of a hot veejayn.....as a xtian...hell hath no fury as a........

4. muslims dont drink alcohol on earth but in their heaven...lots of streams flowing with it....according to muhaMAD...not so for xtians

5. unending sex orgy for muslims....xtians worship in heaven

6. osama is in muslim heaven but in xtian hell.

7. paul is in xtian heaven but in Muslim hell
Both their heaven and hell is only of their imagination

Heaven is the abode of all souls in the presence of God Supreme

Souls don't have sex, drink or do anything humans do with organs, because they don't have organs
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:35pm On Dec 01, 2013
Layolaw: May God open your heart of understanding concerning the things of the Lord in Jesus name..... hmmm thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free
Like I knew the truth and it set me free.

But do u know the truth? And how do u know dat it's the truth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:24pm On Dec 01, 2013
Sallychizzl3: Eleyi gidi gan o... grin
Bro, ur own na Oleku grin grin
Do u have a problem wit my post?

If u do, pls point it out
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:24pm On Dec 01, 2013
[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Abraham can not be in hell because when Jesus went to the grave, He set captivity captive and those who received Gods righteous judgment were set free forever and now Abraham rest in Gods rest in heaven.

The devil is deceiving many with Islam and several other religion to lure them with Him to hell. Be wise, take heed and receive gods mercy today. The moment you breathe your last breathe, if Christ is not found in you, and you are not found in Him, you are damned and there is no more hope. For in the first death, Jesus became our redemptive hope, however, in the second death, there is no hope, forever you will burn in the lake of fire with all of satan and his cohorts.[/quote]You don't know wat u say, Is it not u dat said when u die nothing can save u again, if u don't have Christ it's hell

Did Abraham have Christ? No! So it's hell for Abraham because nothing could save him again after death.
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:21pm On Dec 01, 2013
deparagon: U better keep quiet and worship ur blood sucking vampire u call god oh ye muslims, and stop blaspheming JESUS christ to avoid his WRATH!!!!
So Jesus has wrath? I thought he doesn't vex grin

Oh! He does, the synagogue scene
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:20pm On Dec 01, 2013
Sallychizzl3: Eleyi gidi gan o... grin
Bro, ur own na Oleku grin grin
Do u have a problem wit my post?

If u do, pls point it out
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:20pm On Dec 01, 2013
Layolaw: May God open your heart of understanding concerning the things of the Lord in Jesus name..... hmmm thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free
Like I knew the truth and it set me free.

But do u know the truth? And how do u know dat it's the truth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:20pm On Dec 01, 2013
Sallychizzl3: Eleyi gidi gan o... grin
Bro, ur own na Oleku grin grin
Do u have a problem wit my post?

If u do, pls point it out
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 6:18pm On Dec 01, 2013
rigormortis: muslims and christians are not going to the same place

their idea of heaven is different

1. muslims enter heaven with a hard-on. xtians dont

2. no marriage in xtian heaven. muslims have 72 holes to tear up

3. bomb yourself as a muslim and its straight into the arms of a hot veejayn.....as a xtian...hell hath no fury as a........

4. muslims dont drink alcohol on earth but in their heaven...lots of streams flowing with it....according to muhaMAD...not so for xtians

5. unending sex orgy for muslims....xtians worship in heaven

6. osama is in muslim heaven but in xtian hell.

7. paul is in xtian heaven but in Muslim hell
Both their heaven and hell is only of their imagination

Heaven is the abode of all souls in the presence of God Supreme

Souls don't have sex, drink or do anything humans do with organs, because they don't have organs
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:54pm On Dec 01, 2013
dnawah: wat make u think so?he is God,go and find the meaning of Emmanuel.
no one ever referred to yeshua as Immanuel.

And that doesn't make him same with God Supreme

El- simply means God, used to refer to any God.

So which God is Jesus?
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:50pm On Dec 01, 2013
Mintayo: Christainity is not the password to heaven;JESUS is.
Any christain that do not live up the expectation of Jesus will never make heaven,anybody/muslim that do not believe and accept Jesus as His Lord and saviour wil not make heaven,no two ways about it.
With the mouth you confess and with the heart we believe that Jesus is Lord.
Lol You and Ur family is in danger of hell
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:50pm On Dec 01, 2013
the warrior72: tongue
I have made my calling & election sure,so I'm not on part for destruction.

And for my family members,it's left for them to choose where them want to go, their can choose heaven or hell, it's they own discretion.

In my religion, Salvation is a personal venture/affair, not bandwagonism.
So u are the gate keeper of heaven?

You know who goes in and doesn't
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:46pm On Dec 01, 2013
JustifiedChild: How can a muslim make heaven? How is that possible? *yimu* make una no deceive unaselves abeg. If you like be the most moral muslim on earth...as long as you have not believed AND confessed that Jesus is the son of God and accepted him into your life. As long as you are not abiding by God's law of love and living a life that pleases him..You are totally on your own! This applies to christians as well. There is no wuru wuru way to heaven. There is only one way to God and that is through his son, Jesus. God won't his principles change for anybody no matter how much he loves you. Goodluck.
If we go with ur mentality
Abraham would be in hell

Ur ancestors would be chilling wit Abraham.
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:45pm On Dec 01, 2013
the warrior72: tongue
I have made my calling & election sure,so I'm not on part for destruction.

And for my family members,it's left for them to choose where them want to go, their can choose heaven or hell, it's they own discretion.

In my religion, Salvation is a personal venture/affair, not bandwagonism.
So u are the gate keeper of heaven?

You know who goes in and doesn't
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:45pm On Dec 01, 2013
JustifiedChild: How can a muslim make heaven? How is that possible? *yimu* make una no deceive unaselves abeg. If you like be the most moral muslim on earth...as long as you have not believed AND confessed that Jesus is the son of God and accepted him into your life. As long as you are not abiding by God's law of love and living a life that pleases him..You are totally on your own! This applies to christians as well. There is no wuru wuru way to heaven. There is only one way to God and that is through his son, Jesus. God won't his principles change for anybody no matter how much he loves you. Goodluck.
If we go with ur mentality
Abraham would be in hell

Ur ancestors would be chilling wit Abraham.
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:43pm On Dec 01, 2013
the warrior72: tongue
I have made my calling & election sure,so I'm not on part for destruction.

And for my family members,it's left for them to choose where them want to go, their can choose heaven or hell, it's they own discretion.

In my religion, Salvation is a personal venture/affair, not bandwagonism.
So u are the gate keeper of heaven?

You know who goes in and doesn't
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:42pm On Dec 01, 2013
Mintayo: Christainity is not the password to heaven;JESUS is.
Any christain that do not live up the expectation of Jesus will never make heaven,anybody/muslim that do not believe and accept Jesus as His Lord and saviour wil not make heaven,no two ways about it.
With the mouth you confess and with the heart we believe that Jesus is Lord.
Lol You and Ur family is in danger of hell
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:41pm On Dec 01, 2013
Sallychizzl3: Ait everybody look up here!

Xtians believe jesus is the son of God,muslims believe its an abomination to even say it.
Letz use our common sense here;

1.Why do we give birth? For continuity of life cos if our forefathers had refused there wont be you and me
2. Am sure both parties believe God is immortal and will never die. What does he need "an heir to the throne" for? It looks insane to u too abi?

3. Since God is immortal n xtians believe jesus is immortal too then in their heaven there will be 2 lords, father and the son. Personally i dnt believe their can be 2 lords in a land, do u believe dat too?

So tell me, will the kingdom be shared n ruled or jesus will continue to be the "heir to the throne" with the hope of assuming the throne one day? (Remember we av 2 immortal beings in our hand)
Battle between Father and Son cool

Yahweh never learn from his mistake with satan grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:38pm On Dec 01, 2013
dammycrane000: Why Judge and cause more confusion ? We the current generation should search for the truth and not cause more confusions.
99% Of never choose Christianity or Islam , We are Christians or Muslims because we were born to parents that practice this religion or by location.
We should strive to find a balance and better understanding.
Just like I did, I was born into a Christian family until I found out things that many Christians have not.

I thank Eledua for giving me such good Ori
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:35pm On Dec 01, 2013
Samunique: So ur ingnorance didn't let knw that "YESHUA" in hebrew is "JESUS" in english which means God is my salvation or Saviour. Must everybody learn hebrew language b4 he worships God?
Just as u people recite abrabic 5times daily even when some of u dnt knw d meaning of what u are reciting.

Pls stop infecting people with d new confusion u just learnt frm those confusionists called islamic teachers.
YESHUA IN HEBREW AND JESUS IN ENGLISH MEAN THE SAME.

Tell me do we call God by this same name in Nigeria?

Yorubas call Him OLODUNMARE! Igbos, CHINEKE! Hausas, UBANGIJI ! Calabars, ABASI ! Ikwere , CHOKIKE ! etc
Does it change the fact that they are all reffering to the ALMIGHTY GOD? pls take that ur conterminated theory out of this thread and stop posting it bcs av come across it several times on NL.
SO IF THE BIBLE JESUS IS CALLED YESHUA AND EVERY TRIBE MUST CALL HIM THAT, WHY DO U PEOPLE THEN CALL HIM "ISA OR YESA IN ARABIC WHY NOT CALL HIM IN HEBREW TONGUE "YESHUA?

Bunch of hypocrites!!!
Jesus isn't yeshua in English.

Joshua and Jesus had the same name in real life, why did Romans give them different names in the Bible?

Complete conspiracy that's wat the Romans have done and guilty conscience is gradually catching up wit the church.

Ubangiji is the Hausa supreme God of the universe and it has been that way since the ethnic group began

Olodumare is the Yoruba supreme God of the universe and it has been that way his the beginning of the ethnic group.

These are pagan supreme Gods.

Jesus is not a pagan deity, even tho pagan Gods have been fused with the human-Jesus to form an ultimate God

You cannot just change someones name and claim it has the same meaning.

By the way "Jesus" has no meaning in any language
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:28pm On Dec 01, 2013
ganshious: there is no other GOD except Alllah swt..speaking about jesus christ yea is the true messenger of God and that is why we muslim dont pray in jesus name rather we pray to Allah to shower his mercy on us by mentioning the prophet name.....wo ola awon oji se re.true muslim belive in jesus christ..qulwuwallahu aahdu ALllahu samab lam yelid walam yu lad walam yekun lau kunfu wan ahadu...
There are numerous other Gods apart from Allah.

Yahweh is different from Allah.

Orunmila is different from Allah

Odin is different from Allah
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:27pm On Dec 01, 2013
gen2briz: I need a very good answer from any Bible scholars in the house


Did jesus preach Islam in the Bible?
No. He never knew Arabs
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:27pm On Dec 01, 2013
Mayowakadry: All other religion has d name of a person attached to it unlike Islam. E.g
Christianity- Christ
Hinduism- Hindu
Buddha- Buddhism
Judaism Judah
But only Islam has a name that is chosen by God (Allah, Yahweh, Elohim, Jehovah- they all means d same thing; The God.....just different language.) That means Islam is d only true religion. There is nothing like Muhammadanism.
false.

A total lie.

Liars like u rot in hell u preach
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 5:26pm On Dec 01, 2013
IamDebola: Very funny! Thumbs up bro! Stupid replies for stupid people..
Stupid people like u and many Muslims
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 4:52pm On Dec 01, 2013
sweetcheecks: Yes He is God. He rose on the third day, unlike mohammed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 4:45pm On Dec 01, 2013
sweetcheecks: Yes He is God. He rose on the third day, unlike mohammed.
God of Wat? Wat is his duty to the universal law of Nature.

And since u say he is a God, how is christianity monotheistic if you have 2 Gods already?

Ps. since Jesus is a God, why disregard ur ancestors and The God of ur Nation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 4:42pm On Dec 01, 2013
sweetcheecks: He meant Jesus Christ! There may be maybe other Jesus' but He is the only Christ hence you muslims insist on using xtians, xmas to try and emit the name Christ, instead of Christians, and Christmas which is the true represantation of Jesus the Christ.

On your last question He is both.
Am not Muslim, I am a glorious Son of the land.

Christmas isn't even a Jesus thing so why bother wit how it's spelt nowadays?

Christians has always been a pagan festival in honor of The Sun God- Mithra, Romans only creeped it into christianity
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 4:38pm On Dec 01, 2013
IamDebola: First and foremost, Never in your life again compare Sango to Jesus, Peace Be Upon Him [Isa A.S], I'm a muslim but why on earth would you be comparing a useless thing to People of HIGH RANK like Jesus, Peace Be Upon Him. I don't even care if you're a muslim saying this BIG RUBBISH, but I'm sure you're a Christian or an Atheist.

SANGO is just an IDOL! If you claim he is your own PERSONAL GOD! Fine!

Then I rest my case with you, because you'll surely call a Calculator God since the calculator can give you the answer to your equation.
ignorance and limited knowledge is wat the Koran gives u.
Orisha Sango is not an idol, idols are craven images used to represent the Gods in the physical realm, like I said Gods don't live among men, they cannot be seen but of course they see us.

Humans are very materialistic and we appreciate Things better when we see and feel it. These idols are to fill the space of the absence of Gods in the physical realm.

You call Sango useless but his worshipers pray for his Mercy on people like you, who arent even worth it, Its important for his grace not to vanish cause without Sango, human bodies cannot even be active. The electric charges that usually flows through the brain as it connects with parts of the body is given by Sango, you call him useless but if he acts useless in ur life you won't survive
Foreign Affairs › Re: How African Parents Act On Halloween Night by macof(m): 4:16pm On Dec 01, 2013
stannydon: Halloween is just like using ghost like to chase away the ghost and sharing of candy. There is nothing diabolical about it
True
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Muslims Will Make Heaven While Some Christians Will Not. by macof(m): 4:03pm On Dec 01, 2013
nutarious: ODE!!!!!!!!!, As if Sango dint live as a Man, married, and father children like mortals
Sango Olukoso, the 3rd king of Oyo was a man like any other, nothing God about him, he was a king feared by his subjects and neighboring nations due to his excellent battle strategies and personal brilliance, he was fierce and always battle ready, when he was king he acquired fire breathing ability from his mother's family in Nupeland in order to instill fear into people. When he committed suicide, his loyal disciples probably hid his body and proclaimed he resurrected and ascended into heaven(much like yeshua)

Most Orisha are named after Great Yoruba personalities, Sango while alive was as fierce and aggressive as lightening and thunder, this made Oyo change the Name of The God of lightening and thunder, Jakuta to Sango

So it's a big error to think Sango(the God) is the same as Sango(the king), Gods don't live among men

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