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Juell: Jesus is immortal, he only took human form to accomplish his purpose for coming to earth.

So Jesus is a God? How is christianity monotheistic in this sense?

And by the way, Gods are Forces of universal existence responsible for nature, they cannot take human form, they cannot leave their heavenly duties and live among men.

The universe would be in chaos.

Imagine Sango(force of lightening) absent from heaven, there wouldn't be lightening anymore.

Wat is Jesus's duty in heaven?

tddavid: Man is made up of three parts: his body; spirit; and soul.

The Body:

Our body enables us to touch things and do anything in the physical world.

The spirit:

Is the spirit of God, i.e. the breath God breath into you at creation, it is via the spirit God is able to communicate to man through dreams and visions. The spirit and soul are united beings. It is the spirit that stands between your body, soul and God; like this, "Your body » enables you to have contacts & interactions with the physical world. Your soul » is the real YOU, e.g. when your body gets hurts in any way you say, "My leg! or "Arrrg, my head hurts!" This shows that your body is just like your car or cell phone that you bought or like a gift given to you. So your SOUL is YOU. But your spirit is like an electricity wire that transfers light from its source to your house. Your spirit is also like Gods police man, it judges you via your conscience. So, all those who kill others without any form of remorse or guilt in them, means that their spirit man is no more alife so it cannot communicate to the conscince.

The Soul:

The soul is you yourself, the REAL YOU. When one dies, his natural body decomposes and return to dust. Then, it's all just like a dream, just that now, it's not a dream, it's another world entirely. The real spiritual world, where everything began.

After death, the man is reduced to two parts: his spirit and soul.

Maybe according to ur christianity but according to Yoruba spirituality

The Soul(Emi) is the life force, the energy that charges the body and gives it life.
This soul is given as the breath of life from Eledumare. The soul is the real you that is sent to the physical world, and all ur life experiences are in order for the development of the soul.


The Ori is the consciousness in Human lives, The ori is both guide and sub-conscious instructor, Ori is the path to ones destiny.

The body(Ara) is the physical and organic features created by Obatala

After death that ori and body is not needed and are reformed to serve other Souls coming to life.

onuwaje: Haven't u seen of darked skinned parents giving birth to light skinned offspring? I believe d same happens to whites although it happens on a very rare case

How does this prove Adam and Eve were real?

onuwaje: What I'm saying is.. If 2 black people can give birth to a fair person then its possible.

You believe genetic mutation to cause two blacks to have a white child but you don't believe genetic mutation to cause modern man to have ape-like ancestors from over 80,000yrs ago.

You have a problem

ifeness: Yeshua was a real person,a poor carpenter who was a member of the Essen. Jesus is an invention of the Roman Catholic who was changed from Horus to Jesus. Jesus means "hail zeus". Those who worship jesus and celebrate Christmas and Easter are worshiping Zeus.

Dump christians will try to argue against this because all they read is the bible. My question to them is; does any other book back up the stories of the bible? If yes,name them!

True! Jesus's real name was Yeshua(Yahshua depending on the understanding of Hebrew alphabets).

Zeus aka Jupiter, the chief God in Roman spirituality certainly has something to do wit the name "Jesus"

In Spanish they refer to Yeshua as "E-Zus"

Many don't know that Joshua's real name was also Yahshua(same name wit Jesus)

I wonder why they used the name "Jesus" instead of "Joshua" in English since the two actually had the same real name.

Horus the Kemitic God of Sky, Protection and Salvation was also worshipped by Romans during the lifetime of Jesus. His was born of a virgin mother Isis and together with Osiris the 3 make a trinity. In fact the Romans have always believed in trinity.

The cross didn't originate through Jesus(yeshua) death, the cross has always been part of Kemetism.

In Kemetism, the Sun is linked to their numerous Gods and we see the Sun always showing behind the head of Jesus, Mary and all the saints of christianity.

Easter is a Greek celebration done in Rome in honor of Zeus.

25th December is festival and renewal of the Sun(signifying the birth of Mithra) in Persia. Another pagan activity carried into christianity by the Romans who were Mithra worshipers

tddavid: Man is made up of three parts: his body; spirit; and soul.

The Body:

Our body enables us to touch things and do anything in the physical world.

The spirit:

Is the spirit of God, i.e. the breath God breath into you at creation, it is via the spirit God is able to communicate to man through dreams and visions. The spirit and soul are united beings. It is the spirit that stands between your body, soul and God; like this, "Your body » enables you to have contacts & interactions with the physical world. Your soul » is the real YOU, e.g. when your body gets hurts in any way you say, "My leg! or "Arrrg, my head hurts!" This shows that your body is just like your car or cell phone that you bought or like a gift given to you. So your SOUL is YOU. But your spirit is like an electricity wire that transfers light from its source to your house. Your spirit is also like Gods police man, it judges you via your conscience. So, all those who kill others without any form of remorse or guilt in them, means that their spirit man is no more alife so it cannot communicate to the conscince.

The Soul:

The soul is you yourself, the REAL YOU. When one dies, his natural body decomposes and return to dust. Then, it's all just like a dream, just that now, it's not a dream, it's another world entirely. The real spiritual world, where everything began.

After death, the man is reduced to two parts: his spirit and soul.

Maybe according to ur christianity but according to Yoruba spirituality

The Soul(Emi) is the life force, the energy that charges the body and gives it life.
This soul is given as the breath of life from Eledumare. The soul is the real you that is sent to the physical world, and all ur life experiences are in order for the development of the soul.


The Ori is the consciousness in Human lives, The ori is both guide and sub-conscious instructor, Ori is the path to ones destiny.

The body(Ara) is the physical and organic features created by Obatala

After death that ori and body is not needed and are reformed to serve other Souls coming to life.

Juell: And let make it clear, Christians and Muslims don't worship the same God. Forget what our clerics say in public "that we serve the same God", they just say that for peace to reign. The truth is our God (the Christians) is called Jehovah, that of the Muslims is Allah. And Jesus Christ is the son of Jehovah who came to die and set everyone free from bondage of sin. He was the ultimate sacrifice, that's why Christians don't need to make blood sacrifices (as it was in the old testament) for the atonement of their sins.

True, Christians and muslims worship different gods

Christians worship Yahweh(canaanite mountain God) and muslims worship Hubal Allah(Arabian moon God)

But it is wrong to claim Christians or muslims worship are right or wrong.

My only problem is dat you all worship foreign Gods and disregard the Gods of ur ancestors.

Juell: We Christian don't recognise talk more of believing in Mohammed a mere mortal

So was Jesus immortal?

HumbledbYGrace: @ Op please can I move this to the health section

They would tell you what to use next time, shaving of pubic hair is not mentioned in the bible by the way.

How inconsistent and incomplete of the Bible

onuwaje: what proof do u have to show that they were white?... Cos if 2black people can give birth to a fair child.. Then its possible

Wat proof does anybody have that they were real?

ebenice: Have always pray n hopefully look forward to that day...i mean..i realy, realy, realy wish n long for His visit

And u would wait till u die

thorpido: He said he was a Christian?Are atheists not intelligent?

the OP can't be anything than a Christian.

Only Christians come and embarrass themselves in the name of pleasing the Bible God

njokusboy: The bible further said that the name JESUS is the only name given to man, through which he can be saved... So there are two contending issues, "those verses completely dismiss the possibility of anoda saviour, hence you can't believe in Jesus and Mohammed at the same time, matter of fact, their principles are at variance, secondly, belief in the existence of Jesus aint enough, you have to accept him as the saviour...
One thing I can assure you is this, the sincere christians and sincere muslims have a different idea of heaven and they sure as hell aint going to the same place...

Aren't u aware that the name "Jesus" is a fake? The man u worship was called Yahshua not Jesus.

So it's silly to saw a fake name is above all names, and only through it can man find salvation.

Is this Jesus u worship the man who died for ur sins? Or

Is he the personification of righteousness, purity and consciousness?

Pastor Olu T: Jesus is coming back, so says d bible n i believe it, my question 2 u is what do u believe n not just what u think?
Now if @ d end of d day u find out dat all dis is true, what would u say 4 u 'll b lost 4ever?
If @ d end of d day i found out dat its not true, i would say i had a nice time getting there, bt is in fact true my bro.

Fear that's wat keeps people in christianity

Fear is a negative emotion that causes maximum restrictions to the lives of men.

You are only a Christian because u fear that christianity might actually be true and then if u leave, you go to hell.

This are the kind of techniques I use against lil kids but for this to work on adults just means that such adults are not grown up atol

ajadrage: Absolutely nothing. The hitherto conscious being just ceases to exist as was the state of individuals state of consciousness at pre-conception which happens to be. . . nothing

No hell, no heaven nor limbo neither is there purgatory or any sort of after life existence just a rotting of the carbon content that all flesh is made of until the appointed time of ressurection for the individual rendering of accounts to the creator

Are u atheist or a theist?

I don't seem to understand why u posted the bold

joe4christ: I dont think Bigfrancis21 was speaking out of undesputable certainty, he might just be illustrating based on biblical portriate...
One thing i've discovered is that there's great connection between science and spirituality (Note: I didn't say religion) just that science still has a long way to catching up.
Scientific hypothesis and theories on Man's origin doesn't tally with Theological theory of Adam & Eve.
And spiritually i can assure you that Adam and Eve thing is just a tale, even my higher self testify of this...
There is huge accuracy over scientific theory on Evolution, life on planet earth has been on slow but steady motion of evolution for millions of years engineered by universal source...
My guide approve of this knowledge to be true and i believe him/it...

Very important to Note that spirituality is different from religion as you have pointed out.

I actually doubt if the ancient Jews before the second Temple ever told stories of Adam and Eve being the first humans.

In Mesopotamians and Canaanites spirituality I see nothing in reference to Adam and Eve

I think that story was just made up on Israel's return from Babylon.

joe4christ: I dont think Bigfrancis21 was speaking out of undesputable certainty, he might just be illustrating based on biblical portriate...
One thing i've discovered is that there's great connection between science and spirituality (Note: I didn't say religion) just that science still has a long way to catching up.
Scientific hypothesis and theories on Man's origin doesn't tally with Theological theory of Adam & Eve.
And spiritually i can assure you that Adam and Eve thing is just a tale, even my higher self testify of this...
There is huge accuracy over scientific theory on Evolution, life on planet earth has been on slow but steady motion of evolution for millions of years engineered by universal source...
My guide approve of this knowledge to be true and i believe him/it...

Very important to Note that spirituality is different from religion as you have pointed out.

I actually doubt if the ancient Jews before the second Temple ever told stories of Adam and Eve being the first humans.

In Mesopotamians and Canaanites spirituality I see nothing in reference to Adam and Eve

I think that story was just made up on Israel's return from Babylon.

onetrack: Well said. Arguing over whose holy book is more true is like saying "my god can beat up your god!!".....a complete waste of time; unfortunately some people kill other people over this very idea. Religion poisons everything.

Religion has nothing to offer the world.
Since it's establishment, humans gave continued to have problems with diversity, foreign sire and mental slavery

MetaPhysical: I can list 500 Yoruba words that have direct correspondence and matched meanings in Roman based languages and another 500 in Semitic/Hamitic tongues. It exposes another angle and area of interest and quest into Yoruba trdition of origin for people who might never have known or thought that those possibilities exist.


..waiting on your honorable linguists to punh holes in the letters and sounds.

Another mind blowing revelation for you and your linguists society.."avia", as in aviation comes from same root as " afefe"; "ofurufu"; " "fiofio"..as in oke fiofio. The root "f", corrupted to "v" in English.

Compare "Ile Ife" to "Nineveh"; the transition from f to v.

I need you to hurry up and start bringing out the non-truths in these words.

Lol If we go by ur mentality, Yoruba origin would be linked to even China

Ile-Ife transition from "f" to "v" to make Nineveh Dude why embarrass urself like this?

This ur so-called linguists are deceiving u.

MetaPhysical: You dont expect it to degenrate but yet you kept stoking issues that I have repeatedl clarified.

I will bring my friend on NL after your specialists point out the errors in the sounds.

In fact, here is another one...

English - Forgive
Yoruba - Foriji

English - Sorrow
Yoruba - Isoro

They are unique and non-universal usage yhat tie Yoruba's foothold to AfroAsia.

Tell your linguists to disprove it.

..still waiting on your interview report by the way.

I ignored you several times and tried to avoid a degenration but you took my silence for intimidation. You want fire? I got baskets full of hot quivers.

Pls bring this ur friend let's read from him

So now English and Yoruba have root origins? Or wat does bolded mean?


We are not here to fight, the fact that u are being this abusive and aggressive means that u are frustrated

anibi9674: by dia fruits we shall knw dem.

You are still on the wrong track

Kay 17: Your post is a result of a poor understanding of traditional pagan religious system. It is not strange that you view it through the scope of Christianity. Traditional religious systems are closed systems, reserved, more or less a club, a gathering of likeminds, they are not open to the entire world, and initiation is a test for its truest member.

Therefore they do not evangelize as Christians do.

I couldn't have said it better.

Kay 17: Important word you used there -- Faith!

If non religious ppl are not hardwired to faith and religious ppl are, whence cometh the conclusion that all humans are hardwired to Faith?! Isn't the proper conclusion, SOME humans are hardwired to Faith?

You should know that he has been making a fool of himself since this thread began

anibi9674: for d fact dat a satanist or an atheist kickd aginst my opinon means am on d right track.

Am none of those

So you are on the wrong track

The Gods be glorified

May Africa also see the light of true spirituality

slye: i can see you're smarter than God

I am not but then it depends on wat God u talking about

CAPTIVATOR: .... U are just beatin around d Bush, I will tell u d Fact, D evil Satan Did in d Garden of Eden...Did He take permission? ....D temptations He gave Jesus,Did he take permission! Nw Bak to d Matter, Who told U satan is not the Handiwork Behind d Serpent #smiles# Read Revelation 12:9 ..Wich CLEARLY shows Him as d Original Serpent of d Beginning, No wonder Jesus refer to Him as a 'Lier and Murderer' John 8:44...to illustrate: Its not Unusual fro a VENTRILOQUIST to make it appear dat his Voice comes from anoda Source. Compare Numbers22:26-31 , which tells that ALMIGHTY GOD caused Ballam She-ass to speak! GET D FACT PLS

You cannot tell the Jews wat their own stories mean, If the Jews say The serpent is just a serpent You have no right to distort Jewish Stories.

revelations is a fraud, The supposed author= John was already dead when that book was written, All evidence points that he was Illiterate, his famous epistles were written by his disciple Prochorus.

And again on wat occasion did satan lie or murder?

anibi9674: Choi, christians na wa o! Y cant u guys seperate d church 4rm d world. Dnt u knw dat dia must b a sharp difference 4rm d way we worship God nd d way unbelivers worship d devil. Y must we copy unbelivers in d way day glorify satan. For the fact dat day call the name of Jesus in d song does nt make it a xtian song, remember dia is also a fake jesus nd we also hv acceptable nd non acceptable offerings. Imagin angels rappin when praisin God. All dis hiphop rap nd rock gospel songs r nt songs 2 praise christ our saviour bt rather antichrist. Praisin God shud b in hymns nd psalms. God bless u

This guy has brain tumor

slye: so you dnt ve to follow what your book preaches baah?? now i understand you properly..
" blind faith abi ?"

I am not christian.

I dont have a holy book

My holy instructions are in my conscience, No man written book(bible, torah, koran) can be compared with Gods given instructions right in the Consciousness(Ori) of Men

If you live by a book you can never live by ur consciousness(Ori)

slye: Ritual bath after intercourse
levit 15 : 18 "when a man lies with a woman and there's an evidence of semen, both must bath with water"
aw many of your pastors preaches or practise this ?
Even menstrual period
Levit 15:19 explains women shd av ritual bath after ha period. how many of your pastors preaches that?
see exodus 40 vs 30-32
Moses washed his hands and feet in preparation to worship his lord.
Even Jesus, John 13 v5-9
Jesus washed him sef too

All this re similar to the practise of Muslim today. aw many of you Christians or your pastors do this?

who is deceiving who?

lol pastors and in fact all Christians cherypick

but seriously Africans dont have to follow the Mosaic laws or Sharia laws
those are Jewish and arab things

slye: They re very good at shying away from questions. very good twisters!

hypocrite

rationalmind: Lol, little wonder ibn warraq said mohammed was not an original thinker.

He simply copied parts of bible he understood in the quran and the parts he didn't understand he said it was faslehood.

Bro, something is not true simply because mohammed or the quran said so.

You can't say whatever agrees wt the quran in the bible is true and whatever does not is false. It is the same thing as saying, whatever in the quran agrees with the bible is true, whatever does not is false. Can you now see the stupi.dity of the statement?

Infact, saying the bible is the word of God but has been corrupted by men is a blasphemy to the almighty God(if there is any). How can the almighty God be so blind and stupid as to let ordinary men (his own creations) to tamper with his own word?

If God can be stupid and foolish as to let the bible be tampered with, how are we sure the quran hasn't been tampered with.

Epic post

Wale wants to comes back home.

His parents no miss road with that name