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yousuf12: I see how you make a connection between Allah and Abdullah but trust me it is not like that. Abdullah or Abd ullah means Servant of god - not Abdallah which means Servant of Allah. Hubal was not Allah. Hubal was the main pagan god and his statue was inside the Ka'bah.
The prophet Muhammad pbuh told people that God is Allah - Al Ilah: The God.
Pagan arabs would never referred to Hubal as Allah because they knew he was one of many and therefore wouldn't single him out. I'm well versed in Arabian and Horn African religions so I know this stuff.

Lol Precisely If the name ally was used to refer to hubal in pre-Islam Arabia it was out of respect of his status as chief God.

Mohamed only wanted his way and he had been influenced by Jews which was very wrong.

he learned monotheism from Israel and even called Allah same as the Israel God(Yahweh) this proves Mohammed's confusion because Yahweh is not the head God but a God of mountains.

You are not making sense here and u are in blind denial. If Hubal's devotees could have "Allah" in their names then they referred to Hubal as Allah.

I also have my fair share of knowledge in world religions and spiritualities.

yousuf12: Allah means The God in Arabic (Al Ilah), meaning that there is no other god. So I don't understand where you are coming from.

Let me correct you here, pagan Arabs worshipped Hubal (main god), Lãt, Manaf, 'Uzza, Manãt, Dushara, Al-Qaum and etc. But not Allah.

If you don't despise Islam then why don't you say the same about Christianity and Judaism? you should hate all the Semitic people equally since they came to Africa and 'brainwashed' Africans in to embracing their religions.

El means the God in Hebrew, Yet Many Gods existed.

By the way, Hubal was Allah
Mohammed's father was named Abdullah-servant of Allah, and if u study deeper into Arab and Islam's history u would know that Mohammed's granddad was a priest of hubal. Hubal was the chief God, hence the name "Allah" to show respect.

In Yoruba OrishaNla is the chief Orisha. "Nla" means Great or Big, to show respect.

I do same on christianity and judaism, these religions have too many secrets and lies which people have begun to find out-including me.

I would keep telling people that it's best and the only proper thing to worship the God of ur ancestors

Pastor Olu T: Believe I have had spiritual experiences, I am not talking about just dreams n preconditions! So how do u hope to convince otherwise about Jesus, n secondly what make u believe Buddha as against Jesus?

Wat kinda spiritual experience? Supernatural healing, Falling down when pastors touch u or wat

No, Buddha is not against Jesus

Buddha teaches Enlightenment and growth of consciousness
that's the whole point of spirituality, helping humans build a bond with the unseen to grow in consciousness
it's not about competition

Bolurx: I don't wanna say any thing again coz it's obvious you're hellbent on ur beliefs.

I leave you to God's intervention. Amen in Jesus Name.

No I am not hellbent on my beliefs, I learn everyday and knowledge is unending.

I pray for Orunmila to bless me everyday

Bolurx: SMH at your ignorance. If you read the Bible, you would have known that the prophets (Moses, Elijah, Elisha) and even our Lord Jesus often retreated to mountains to pray to God and not to your Orisa Oke.

Yes of course because the God of these people is Yahweh, the canaanite mountain God same as Orisha Oke in Yoruba.

The mountain(MOUNTAIN OF MERCY) was an abode of evil spirits before a Prophet of God namely Apostle Joseph Ayo Babalola was sent by God to rid the mountain of this evil spirits(including ur Orisa Oke) after several days and nights of intense fasting and prayers.

OrishaOke is not an evil spirit, he is same as Yahweh.

Lol Orisha Oke is put over mountains by God(Eledumare) himself, without Orisha oke mountains cannot exist. God cannot send any apostle to drive Orisha oke away, Because that's impossible. It's easier to carry the mountain on ur back than chase Orisha-Oke away from where Eledumare has put him

And the woman did not pray to any Orissa Oke. But to Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

You said names don't matter to ur Orissa Oke. If you are very sure of this assumption, why not bring your Orissa Oke to the mountain or to anybody who really has the Power of Jesus and see whether ur Orissa Oke will not bow.

As I said, Names are irrelevant in the spiritual realm. the Canaanites call Oke- Yahweh/El Shaddai so it's not about names but sincerity in his presence.

No one Carries Oke around like a dull, He owns all mountains so no need to even bring him to the mountain cus he is right there.


"When one does not look beyond what he knows, he can never see beyond his nose!"
^^^This goes to you

As to ur assumption that Orissa Oke appears to people too…

I'm not amazed for the Bible says "even the devil himself is disguised as an angel of light"[\quote]
Ur Jesus is the devil the Bible was talking about

It is not to late to come to Jesus. If you come, you'll realize how much years you've wasted and how muc you've missed by ur belief in Orissa Oke and ur bondage under it.

Yes I realized how much years I wasted with christianity, that I actually was once like u before Ori showed me the light


May the Ori open your eyes. Ase!!!

Christians and their claims

So when a Muslim converts to christianity it means he was never truly a Muslim

[quote author=Donalð Genes]Let me help out, as a Geneticist, the word science can never be a match to God's power, It is God that giveth everything and He categorically told us to rule and subdue over everything on this earth, that's why we were made in His image Now, science means Brains and using this same brain wisely to understand how things work,that's why things are discovered for the Glory of God to manifest in anything we lay our hands on, it doesn't mean science is contesting God's power.But it's a pity some who discovered things don't acknowledge God's Grace.some do and some don't.[/quote]Wat God are u talking about?

And by us being made in God's image that's reference to our souls and not our physic

yousuf12: First of all, Islam is not exclusively Arabian, nor did the Arabs come with their warships & troops to forcefully convert us to Islam, they came seek refuge among the Abyssinians. Islam flourished and the Christian and Waqist people were converting to Islam in their thousands.
Somalis and other Horners accepted Islam long before the Arabs because Islam was in line with much of their beliefs.

Somalis really don't care who likes them or who cares about them, they themselves are overly prideful people thus wouldn't care if Khaled from Iraq hates them or not.

Islam is the true religion of God, we are sure of that.
But let me ask you why you despise Islam? I read and commented on your topic where you claimed that all the terrorists are Muslim.

I don't despise Islam, I despise the foolish Africa muslims who have sold themselves to Arab brainwash.

Islam's God is Allah whom the Arabian ancestors have been worshiping right from time as pagans. Why should non-Arabs succumb to Arab philosophy when their ancestors were wise and glorious practicing their own spirituality
It is complete mental slavery.

Everyone should worship the God of their fathers and leave the foreigners God alone

Yoruba Ancestors consulted Obatala for such

But it wasn't common because Both Male and Female are appreciated as Eledumare's blessings

yousuf12: My ancestors never worshipped Gods, they were monotheists who worshipped one god; Wãq. They knew God was up there then Islam came East Africa and my people were the first to convert to Islam (because it confirmed their beliefs that there was only one God) even before the Prophet Muhammad's own Quraysh tribe and the rest of the Arabs. In Zeila' in Northern Somalia by the Djiboutian border, you can find one of the few mosques in the world that has two Qiblah's thus indicating how early Islam came to my land. Alhamdoulillah.

You are from Somalia?

I have read about the Somali God-Waq.

That's beautiful, but why leave Waq worship to worship in the Arabic system of Islam?

There's nothing like living wat ancestors have left behind
The Arabs don't care about Somalis, so why stick ur head out for them?

My ancestors were not monotheistic, but they worshipped a supreme God through other Gods who happen to all be his heavenly firstborns


As I always say, Humans can't fully/perfectly understand the universe and different people wit different understanding.
The Somalis pagan spirituality is the only monotheistic I know, just goes to prove that Im right wit how different people have different understanding.

This however doesn't mean one perspective is the one truth and others are wrong

Joagbaje: Law , hope you're ok now?



You don't get the point. Jewish The law you are condemning I'm saying paul quoted it to the church many times. If the law is bad why would paul quote it to Christians especially gentile Christians who were not under Jewish law by default .

Wat do u expect Paul to do? "Come leave the God of ur ancestors and worship the God of the Jews through Jesus his son" -this was his message

And of course by adopting such God of radical racist Jews required leaving ur laws for theirs.

That's why I am trying to correct wat all these people have done.

Leave wat isn't urs alone and go back to ur roots, u have no business wit tithing.

Joagbaje: Tithe has nothing to do with the messiah . Likewise prayers , worship , alms giving . They are eternal principles

So souls give tithes in heaven

Rothstein tryna form Einstein

Best thing to do is visit a ritual site and observe their acts

beauty ng: meaningless story... try sumtin beta nxt tym

Na this type dey date 50yrs old man

Bolurx: Have you really thought about the origin of these powers? hmmmmm "deadlier". Darkness will remain darkness.



Don't you think you are confused SMH. Or do you not know that anybody who has not met Jesus, anybody consulting fetish powers (sango, ogun, etc) is directly under the slave master? I'm sure you don't but now you know!



So if Jesus came in the form of a black man through the black race, then you would have believed on Him?



Finally, I'm praying again that the Lord Jesus Christ will reveal Himself to you and

Amen.

The origin of all powers is from God, nothing is evil or good, it's the way humans use it that gets portrayed as good or evil. There's nothing darkness about pagan Gods

U do not know the meaning of fetishism, if u did u would know that christianity is as fetish as any pagan spirituality if not more fetish

any African processing Jesus(a dead jew) as his Lord and master serves a dead man and is worse than a common slave who serves those alive.

Jesus dared not because Africans were much smarter back then, a claim of being son of God would be dealt wit immeasurable punishment

I don't want a ghost tormenting me, so Jesus should stay away

tintingz: It is pity that some people are so ignorant...Allah a moon idol god?

Who built the ka'ba is it not Abraham and Ishmael(as)? The pagans believed in Allah(God) to the their creator but they associated other gods with Allah

You guys should stop posting LIES they are feeding you...the pagans believed one true God(Abraham's faith) but they went astray by associating other gods with Allah which He(Allah) has condemned in the Quran.

There's no proof that Abraham built the kaaba, that news was only told my Mohammed who wanted to link the Arabs with Abraham at all cost, he even went as far as claiming Abraham was an Arab forefather.

The kaaba has always been for Arabian worship which consisted of over 300gods and Allah was the chief of the gods.

There's nothing like only true God anywhere except from these new religions with lots of hidden secrets and lies to cause confusion.

The Koran is not any God's word but the word of men, Allah would not instigate killing of his worshipers.

Ps. Abraham left Allah for El Shaddai

rationalmind: Lol, you can also ask him on my behalf

No, I dont have direct access to Obatala, thats why his priest would be good. I was told once that Ori chooses how a person would look(cripple, short, talk etc.) and if ur Ori is against tallness Obatala priest cant do anything.

They'll just tell u to deal wit ur height and live ur life.

yousuf12: So you want us to worship idols and statues?

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Nobody worships idols and statues.

The idols are used to represent the Gods. It's the Gods that are worshipped, like ur ancestors did.

rationalmind: Can a miracle or supernatural means make me taller? I would love to have a few more inches .

Speak with any Obatala priest, if such is possible Obatala is best to consult

Bolurx: Ignorance!!! So Allah is the one true God. Do you not know that in the time of Mohammed, Arabia worshipped over 200 gods, the chief of whom is Allah. When he became possessed by his "illusions", he named Allah the one true God. Unfortunately you all are deceived by this big lie. You are lost. Study Islamic and Arabian history. Arabic Historians and Islamic Theologians who later got the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ have revealed this truth. God is God and his Son is Jesus.

It's not to late to come to him!

Truth about Allah.
But u are being hypocritical, have u studied the history of Israel, Canaanland and Christianity.
I don't think so

Yahweh isn't the God u think he is. Allah is even far more powerful and lordful than Yahweh

Joagbaje: Blood sacrifice ended with christ.

And tithe didn't

Joagbaje: The law is not the foundation . But the law contains some vital kingdom principles . Paul quoted the law several times to Christians who are new creation.

answer his question, is Mal 3:8-11 preaching law or freewill?

Even gentile Christians who never had a law for that matter .

The law may only be used as illustration but not as foundation. Because principles exist before the law.

Every group of people has a law that all must follow, the Jews have their laws, the Oyos have their laws. It's not about gentile vs Jew, it's the Jews who are looking for rivals, so gentiles don't even cares about their laws because they have laws of their own

Laws are made to guide principles. They are variants of the same thing

MetaPhysical: How is Ijebu not part of Ife but yet are sandwiched between people with origins in Ife?.

All Yoruba have roots in Ife, it's actually new that the Awujale claims outside of Ife as the origin of Ijebu.
3 known migrations occurred en route to present Ijebu where there was already a population of seafarers from Ikale/Ilaje region called Idoko
First was Osi (from Waddai as claimed) known as Olu-iwa of Ijebu who settled in Imusin the centre of Idoko seafarers and boat owners, his son Osinumesi migrated to Ijebu-ode with Ajebu and Olode
second was Arisu who was initially part of Olu-iwa's team but stayed at Ife
Third was Ogboroganda aka Obanta the grandson of Olu-iwa and second son of oduduwa who deposed Ofiran his cousin, He was later known as Oba Ijasi

Can anyone please trace their path between Chad and Ijebuland. If they had no foothold in Imperial Ife then what are they doing in the interior of Yorubaland?

I do not know wat made them leave their country but They were welcomed to Ile-Ife and adopted much of Ife culture. They were also exposed to Bini who they came across at least based on much that is known.

On getting to Ijebu, they mixed up with the people already there

Osun river heals.

Osahin priests are master healers, they know all the healing herbs of the Forest.

Supernatural stuffs are just labeled so because people don't understand how it works

NoProphecy: I am no more sick than Noah! I have not gotten drunk and passed out on the floor naked. God blessed Noah. He murdered everyone on the planet but Noah and his family. "Noah was in his generations a man righteous and whole-hearted; Noah walked with God."
Genesis Chapter 9:
25. And he said, "Cursed be Canaan; he shall be a slave among slaves to his brethren."
26. And he said, "Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem, and may Canaan be a slave to them.
27. May God expand Japheth, and may He dwell in the tents of Shem, and may Canaan be a slave to them."

So when Noah cursed his son for seeing him passed out and naked (after getting drunk), he was behaving in consort with God. He was totally cool with slavery and felt that the institution was worthy of putting on his son's progeny. God is cool with slavery, get over it. Moses said "Let MY people go!" He did not say "End the system of owning human beings."

Ham was never cursed, Canaan was.

Am getting tired of this silliness <

LyfeJennings: I am a muslim but Childhood Christmas reminds me of ADRAO. That school really gave my life some sense of belonging. . Christmas parties and Christmas Carol.. what a memory!!!

No problem if you are a Muslim.

The Arabs(ur masters) worshipped Allah as the father of the Sun God

The Sun God blessed u when u were a child nothing to do with being Muslim or Christian

FunmbiLayo: @macof. Wonder what will happen to u, Macof...cos u just compared Satan to the Lord Jesus. Smh

Happen to me? As how
How exactly is Satan incomparable with Jesus? satan is even a more awesome character in the story book.

1. Immortal
2. Invincible
3. Master of Music
4. Has personal conversations with God
5. Can convince/confuse God to do anything.
6. God over the earth and Hell
7. Reveals all secrets of God
8. Father of lies, death and all that is evil

FunmbiLayo: Back to d topic. Christmas was so much fun then. The end of d yr party...flaunting your new dress & shoes, the xmas carol, the eat-till-u-vomit food, the travelling, the gifts, 'fullhouse',... Loved it then.

All thanks to the Sun God for making Christmas so fun for u.

captivating: please where did the bible say this?

Read ur Bible from beginning to the end and do the maths

Leave Jewish laws alone and keep the laws of ur ancestors

Just proves the Bible is incomplete.

Nd divepen how is "grandfather" and "father" the same in Hebrew? how did the holy spirit reveal that one?