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khanivorous: Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!Lol He trusts No one Very smart dude |
tintingz: The Quran and the bible has given the concept of God.Yes but false concepts LOLZ what about the statues, figurines the pagans carry about and bow down to?This would be long to explain, A thread would be good for this because u can't understand easily I'm a yoruba, how will I hate the thing about yoruba infact it is interesting knowing the roots of my culture and am enjoying the debate with youYou are Yoruba? Wat tribe? Wats ur clan name? Where's your family house? Who's ur guiding Orisha? How far back can u trace ur ancestral origin? Do u know ur clan's oriki? I doubt u have the answers to any of these. The Olorun in the Quran has no other gods associated with him, he's the the ONLY true God of the universe whether you like it or notBecause the Koran is false Olorun is the Supreme God above all others NOT the only God Ur Yoruba muslims are just looking for where to rest with the Yoruba language you had to bring out our pagan God like u do with the Arab pagan God If sango and orisa oke is recognized in other countries why ranting around this thread about Allah and Yaweh??this is like teaching a nursery student ![]() You need to learn wat spirituality is and how they differ with people of different culture. BTW are you a pagan, you must be PAGAN 9JA friendI am a proud pagan blessed by the Gods |
[quote author= yousuf12]Calling me a slave is a bit of an Ironic statement since my people never went through slavery, never went on ships with chains, were never whipped by a white man and were never called 'Negroes'. But guess who went through that?[/quote]Seriously? Is this wat this is about ![]() Go to South America you see people who were never brainwashed, who never gave up and gave in to the white men's orders. Real slavery is wat Somalia has become to Arabia, No chains, No being shipped away but right there in ur home u slave urself to Their will and of course do not see this because of ur high brainwash. I think you have comprehension difficulties. This is what I said when I was replied back to PAGAN 9JA.When u post in a comprehensive manner than everyone would understand as u wish "We don't think the pagan culture has survived, we just see it as stories much like the Europeans regard Cinderella, The Ugly Duckling and etc. as just stories. "and that's the first damage Islam did to ur people. It destroyed your culture and turned it's stories to mere fairytales Now if you see my previous commentes you would know that I am not talking about my ancestors nor am I talking about Waaq but I am talking about Nidar, Qorismaris and Dhegdheer. It is true that these are only stories, ask the next Somali you see.I have resolved this already, why take us back? Prophet Muhammad's father was called Abdullah which means 'servant of God' this doesn't mean Allah or Hubal or whatever little god you are making up here, it just means god and it doesn't specify which one. As for you saying that Hubal is Allah lol proof or keep your mouth shut.lol with this logic Orishagbemi- The Gods Carries me would relate to Allah ![]() Condescending fool, understand what I said and come up with a worthy reply. Don't get mad at me just because I don't submit to your weird theories. The Religion of Waaq is gone, if you are not going to worship Waaq then why the hell do you care?Wats my weird theories ![]() I am preaching Ur ancestral God and u call it weird theories, if I was preaching Islam u would jump with joy smh Some people have lost it all |
yousuf12: One thing I have noticed, is that you guys keep saying I'm brainwashed or I'm submitting to an Arabian religion and what not, that clearly shows you don't respect Islam a tiny bit. Because if you really believed that none of us are right and none of us are wrong, my religious views would not have bothered you this much.It bothers me because Africa has suffered a lot and Islam is holding us captive. U are happy being like this because u have been brainwashed now like a puppet. Your ancestors were glorious pagans but some Arabs go and tell you that ur ancestors are going to hell and so are u if u continue in their ways and u blindly believe. Were Your ancestors not Godly? Were they not far more righteous than these terrorist muslims in your country today? Yes of course wonderful for Arabs not non-Arabs, and u are not Arab |
Acidosis: The kind of mods we have here are the reasons for the confusions in the things of God.Bottomline Christianity is a lie go back to your ancestors |
tintingz: Read my post again? Mohammed(sa) didn't just brought Allah up, the mecca pagans knew about Allah to be their creator the fact that Abraham(as) faith was a monotheism and he built the temple(kaaba)...Mohammed(sa) used Allah as God the same way Elaha in hebrew Olorun in yoruba for the people to understand what he's preaching. The mecca pagans only associated other gods with Allah(SWT) which Allah condemned in the Quran.All this are simple twisting and beating around the bush and Iam not in a good mood to argue further. Was Allah worshipped as a pagan God or not? If u say No, explain why Mohamed's father bared Abdullah-servant of Allah I should be asking you why non-muslims want to paint Islam as a bad faith.I have no direct business with With Other non-Muslim. So I can only speak for myself, I don't hate Islam I only hate Non-Arab muslims. worshiping a foreign God over the God of ur ancestors is A curse The ancient Israelis knew this |
Divepen: Then they r not atheist ...If they blv in a spiritual force an Atheist blv dere no spiritual forcesSpiritual force is Spirituality's name for Energy |
I didn't want to comment cause I saw this as a stupidd topic But for the sake of many on NL We Pagans serve the true Gods of the world as Our fathers did. And in Yoruba paganism Only Ori saves The atheist are and cannot be considered Enemies(neither are Christians or muslims) Most atheist are working in line with their Ori In ancient times many Pagans were more atheistic than theistic Paganism doesn't force anyone to Worship- recognition is all that is required. Most atheist I have met recognize these forces as they are but of course do not worship them. Many Modern Pagans don't worship either, They only honor their Ori Paganism is simply subscribing to the beliefs of your ancestors and respect for Nature. It's not about Giving sacrifice or pouring oil on statues, it's about consciousness |
ladionline: You have attitude problem, little rigid world. You are always writing wounded. Are you happy, now, ever? How are the people close to you? Any mayhem at hand, now? 'Asoro se kii soro danu'. I have to be patient and share to some extent what I have, so someone without any background idea can relate to the story and draw sound analyses and conclusions. You are to write to 'edu-tain', sorry you have ego issue. Meanwhile it (the post) is not your take, it is a virtual telegram. It is meant for the op and for metaphysical. GOOD IDEA, YOUR QUESTION IS 'RESEARCH-WORTHY', ANOTHER ASSIGNMENT. EXCEPT YOU DON'T KNOW IT. OH! MACOF, YOU ARE COMPLICATING YOUR OWN ASSIGNMENT everyday, but keep trolling, and scanning for your ehm, red rag.Still long yarns with no sense |
yousuf12: Actually tribalism caused the fall of the Somali government, get your facts right before jumping on the lambast-Islam-bandwagon.Tribalism Lol Yh I know where this is heading toYou can rush to ur Arab masters defense at the detriment of ur Nations pride. Anyway I would find out the truth about this matter. No no, I never referred them as ur ancestors. I kept calling "ur ancestors" because This was their spirituality and how they worshipping God but u call it a fairytale, such a serous thing as spirituality is wat u call fairytale. But of course Islam is no fairytale to u right? That's a lie Hubal devotess were named after Allah, Mohammed's father is a perfect example. After referring to Ur ancestors as high fairy story tellers you know try to retract ur statements and insults. Listen I know Islam isn't wrong, neither am I absolutely right. As I said before I am not against Islam but against Non-Arab muslims It's an insult to ur ancestors to slave urself to foreigners as such |
albiol: If the there can be as many lies as this from the world's largest xtian denomination then where can we find truth in xtianityAsin Ehn! Too many lies for christianity Such hidden facts about them all will be exposed in due time |
tintingz: Olorun is used by the pagans, but we yoruba muslims and christians use Olorun as God the creator(asheda) the way we also use Olodumare as God. LOL this is no diff with the christians trinity conceptOlorun/Olodumare is the creator, The father of all, so when muslims and Christians call Olorun they call the pagan creator God of the Yorubas and not Allah or Yahweh. It is not the same with Christian trinity. It's just a trinity. To Us Pagans Olorun is not an idol either, Olorun doesn't even have an Idol/statue. Nobody worships an Idol- ignorance and limited knowledge are ur best traits. Olorun in the Quran is the creator of everything not an idol, theAnd who said Olorun is an idol This guy is really foolish.Olorun is not an idol anywhere No God is an idol anywhere Pls If u hate ur ancestors so much, and hate the Yoruba spirituality kindly stop using the name of our Olorun and stop praying to him because Olorun is a Yoruba pagan God and nothing can change that. Again the concept of Olorun of the yoruba pagans is not the same as the Olorun in the Quran.Yes, Allah is not the same in quran as well, because the quran is full of lies. The Koran however has no basis, a false book from a false prophet, but I can't condemn Mohammed because he thought he was doing the right thing by proclaiming his father's God as One true God. It's the killing and war he caused that I condemn him for LOLZ fairy talesYes Yemoja is Goddess of all waters Sango's case is too complex for ur primitive level of understanding. It would take a lot to make u understand Alaafin Sango and Orisha Sango |
tintingz: Hubal and Allah are not the same Islamicaly, yes the Allah might be used by the mecca pagans but that does not mean Allah is an idol in Islam just like Olorun used by the yoruba pagans and the muslims and christians as well.Lol This is an Islamic concept I speak of a pre-Islamic Arabian concept. Allah is a same as hubal and history cannot change. The pagans worshipped Allah Hubal and Allah are same. Allah didn't just drop on Mohammed's head, he knew Allah because his father was devoted to Allah as a pagan All u post up there are muslims trying to distort history |
[quote author=Red_Card]it's your father that is a bastard. I know you come from Ndele too, do you like the fact they forbid all of those things?[/quote]No I am Yoruba Ekiti It's just stupid for someone to say u regret where u were born into especially on such foolish reasons as Taboos u don't like |
yousuf12: Right out of the western media's mouthes. Judaism calls for the execution of homosexuals and the bible calls for the killing of infidels.Mr since u know Answer why Hubal devotees had "Allah"in their names? |
battyman: In my town it's a taboo for a woman to climb a tree.When Moses was making laws for the Jews did he come clean about it? Didn't he claim Yahweh revealed them to him. Pls stop ur hypocrisy |
[quote author=Red_Card]I'm from Ndele and we forbid a lot of things. We can't make love on the floor, in a car, boat, ship, air plane, hotel built in water, etc. The taboos are so many that I can't name them all. I regret being a native of that village. Juju plenty for there eh![/quote]Then kill urself and save urself the shame. It's people like u that have problems but won't find solution Useless bastard |
yousuf12: @MacofIslam is the truth and the Somali religion is false ![]() Is Allah the God of ur ancestors? Wats wrong wit worshiping Waaq? U are just a slave, a lost soul that has no place in society anymore, u have lost all ur roots and now call ur ancestry a fairytale. No wonder Somalia has lost it all to Arabia U think ur ancestors were Disney producers smh for ur soul. Such low consciousness and high brainwash |
Esu has placed confusion in christianity They don't even understand themselves, they never did and never will ![]() |
shymexx: Sorry for the late reply. It's xmas season and I've been busy.So then Paul is trying to say Arabs are in bondage while Jews are Freeborns |
ladionline: Baba meta, salute. You know too much, you are right in the heart of the story on Awori/Dahomey. The one that first was, happened at inception, before the one of Yoruba civil war of 19th century. The old one gave us the saying 'ija olowu pelu olubadan koni pare lailai' It was said to have been caused by Osun, over Nkan, that Olowu promised river Osun before his passage to go to war. Do you have the myth I'm talking about? Olowu had forgotten that he has a princess named nnkan, when he was promising Osun nnkan. Meanwhile nnkan was bethroted to Olowu by Olubadan. Osun claimed nnkan and fight ensued between Olowu and Olubadan. I wont break it, but you are capable of breaking the code, I trust you meta. What is nkan? clue: lesi ma bomo Alakese dule baba tie? O sewor!Always talking too much and going out of point Wat does Olowu and Kiriji war have to do wit Obanikoro? Or Igbo-Yoruba connection? |
It's a taboo for Obatala devotees to drink Alcohol Or palm wine It a taboo to kill humans for rituals in yorubaland It's a taboo for pregnant woman to be around masquerades It's a taboo to kill chameleon in the Forest In most parts(if not all) it's a taboo for children to greet their elders without bowing |
Esu has infused confusion in christianity There's no understanding between them ![]() |
tintingz: LOL why directing the question back to me...even in the bible there are many evidence that Abraham, HagarI have dealt with this before, and now show archeological and historical documentation of the time and year the kaaba was built and also if Abraham ever step foot into Mecca. Allah is not hubal, hubal was a pagan idol(moon-god), Allah is the God of heavens and earth, El(Ellah) is God in hebrew lang related to Allah in arabic lang.Hubal and Allah are same thing, Mohammed knew this, it's there in his family history. His family was devoted to Hubal, his grandfather was an Hubal prophet and his father's name was Abdullah-servant of Allah. Hubal worship was a glorious period in Arabia, Hubal has always been the name of the Arabic chief God and they also called him Allah Olorun is God in yoruba language stop given false details, the yorubas use both Olorun, Olodumare as God the asheda(creator), God has many names attributed to his greatness.very funny for me arguing a spirituality u know nothing about, but I'll educate u because that's wat Iam here to do. Olorun(owner of heaven) is the same God as Olodumare but with a different role on the universe. Olorun keeps the Sun, and rules the sky giving All life the adequate amount of Energy needed. This doesn't separate Olorun from Olodumare it is simply a reference to specific roles in the universe. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olorun Here's a little detail ^^^ You are confused fella given false details, If Olorun is a pagan god then why do yoruba muslims and christians use it as well?Lol Esu doesn't cause confusion to those who recognize him. Olorun has been worshipped in Yoruba paganism since the beginning of Ile-Ife Wat other names could muslims and Christians call their God in Yoruba language? since they foolish try to claim their God as only God If u belief Yoruba worshipped God as Olorun why are u are Muslim? Why not remain in the worship of Olorun? You are confusing yourself, you said Olorun is not Olodumare now both are the same, I thought you said both are not the samesmh, u are the one with the problem of understanding common English. I said Olorun and Olodumare are same God with different roles attributed to those names. Olodumare, Olofin, Olorun are Same God honored as the supreme God of the Omniverse but it not merely a different name but a different attribute goes with the name. You are not exposed to Yoruba religion I do not expect u to understand quickly. So Orisa oke is a jewish god?Technically yes, Orisha Oke is a God everywhere whether recognized or not it doesn't change the fact that he is the mountain God. The Canaanites worshipped Orisha Oke with the name of Yahweh/El Shaddai and Israel adopted his worship through Abraham who's former God was Naana(same as Hubal in Arabic) LOLZ...again God has many names attributed to his greatness, stop posting false details, you are just blabing rubbish. Maybe you know better that the jews lang(hebrew).If we go by ur mentality Sango, Ogun, Yemoja, Obatala are also names of God. To find the true identify of a God and the roles attributed to his name you need to study the earliest history of the name and the study the history of his worshipers. This I am doing on Yahweh and Allah and a lot of things have been revealed to me |
Pastor Olu T: Seeing and knowing things about the spirit world!I have once experienced the feeling of the spirit world; I was defending by body from intruding spirits and I won- this I felt Jesus said so, doesn't mean everyone should take that as universal truth. Different people with different understanding, No human can achieve perfect knowledge of the universe I say that was made up, because it sounds very silly that humans are doomed except they worship a man who died several years ago. It's Hell that is the driving force- Souls are eternal because they are pure Energy, free bound and unrestricted. I cannot say about the existence of a "hell" for souls, but this Christian hell is total fiction because Souls cannot feel pain from fire lmao. If we think about it properly, we would resolve that non-Christians are doomed already, that's over 60% of the world's population. Christians don't believe in reincarnation, calculate all humans that have lived from Jesus till now, that would be Trillions and Trillions upon people on judgment day. A hell which is God's punishment for not accepting his son(Jesus). Wat about those who never heard of Jesus? In Yorubaland about 400yrs ago No one ever heard of Jesus, wat happens to those ones? According to Christian doctrines, Spirituality is fetish and Evil just to eliminate the competition, But I have seen Powers here being used for more good than u can imagine, nothing evil about Spirituality, We gain powers from Nature around us, a conversion of energy to work for use in the physical realm, it's how some people use the powers that are evil and not the power or system itself. Everything Christian God is about Israel, even Christians refer to Abraham as their father- do you share any ancestral blood ties with Abraham? This shows that the Christian God is one centered, he is not universal and as such Jesus his son cannot possibly reflect all mankind when his father has been an Israel God all along If Jesus truly is for all mankind, Everyone would have known him, there should have been prophecies about him in China, Ile-Ife, Rome, Egypt, Somalia etc. but there was none. How can such an important figure be coming and No prophecy? When kings or Great warriors are to be born there are prophecies talkless of A Messiah of all mankind. Even the verses of the Bible that Christians claim to be prophecy made by Jews about Jesus can be disproved. Now the main point Salvation: This simply refers to "being saved", In most Instituted spiritualities only u can save urself, Ur acts and deeds in life are to be checked those who do bad are punished by the measure of their deeds and those who do good are blessed in the same manner. A Jesus would mean the law of karma is dead and All there is to salvation is accepting Jesus after all the bad u do. I do not see the point of Jesus, because the world existed fine before him and is still doing so after him. |
leenu11: For the record, human bones do heal by themselves(at least for younger people). That is why even in hospitals, the only thing done is to put the broken part in a cast, so as to restrict movement and allow the bone heal by themselves. All the charade the "woman" performed was to mystify the whole process and justify her pay and respect.U know how long it would take for the bones to heal themselves? Compared to the fast healing techniques of traditionalists |
yousuf12: No that's what you think. Hubal was never called Allah so stop coming up with funny theories just because you want brand Islam as an Arabian religion.For the reason of not causing a total derail of the topic, I'll stop here. Dhaqan means culture in Somali not religion. Same with Hiddo, it means tradition.And why didnt your people continue honoring Waaq? The God of ur ancestors I find it a dehumanizing act to personally sell oneself into foreign brainwash. Wats wrong wit Waaq and the way he was worshipped that you all had to give in to a foreign God? |
Emyben: So at the end of your essay,,,one can simply deduce that you are in the haters train. Cayholics worship no Idol neither do they worship any human. Stop indirectly attacking the Catholics. Direct your post to the Mushroom churches who worship their DaddyChristian show down. The Gods see u all ![]() |
tintingz: And where is the prove that Abraham didn't built the Ka'aba, even the mecca pagans knew the ka'ba was built by Abraham and Ishmael, Abraham was the forefather of the jews and arabs(Ishmael and Isaac).Show me proof that he built it, and I'll show u evidence that Mohamed was lying LOLZ...epic fail the ka'ba was consisted of 360 idols not 300 which Mohammed(sa) destroyed, Allah was the name of God(Abraham's faith) which the pagans believed in but worship along other gods with Allah. Una wan spoil the image of Islam finishyou have problem with English- didn't u see "over 300 gods. Allah aka hubal was the Arabic name for Abraham's God in Mesopotamia before He left and devoted himself to El Shaddai in a foreign land. If you are a yoruba you should tell us who is "Olorun" why is that both christians and muslims use "Olorun" as God the same way the pagans used it as well with other gods.Olorun is one of the manifestation of Olodumare, the other is Olofin. Christians and muslims are confused fools who don't know the God they worship. Olorun is a Yoruba pagan God- God of the sky and owner of the Sun. Ancient Yoruba spirituality worshipped the Sun God, but we stopped a long time ago and recognized the Sun as Olorun's property as Olodumare's ball of Ase(energy/lifeforce) "Olorun" is not used for other Gods, Olorun is Olodumare-The supreme God Call it a trinity Olodumare, Olorun, Olofin but they are the same God wit different attributed roles in the universe wat the Christians do is simply out of stupiditi and lack of knowledge, To refer Yahweh as Olorun. Yahweh is same as Orisha Oke and Yoruba pagans can never refer to Orisha oke with "Olorun" And where did Allah said his worshipers should be killed?Allah means "the God", El means "God" There were many "El" in Abraham's days in canaanland but He adopted El Shaddai means God of mountains In Canaan, El Elyon was the supreme God and creator not Abraham's God El Shaddai. Notice "El" is used to refer any "God" El Elyon is wat means "God most High, and El Elyon is the supreme not Yahweh(Abraham's God If Allah is truly The one true God(which he is not) he would not instigate the killing of pagans in Arabia and neighboring places because they all worshipped himAbraham was born in Ur kasdim a country in the Mesopotamian region were Naana was worshipped as the Moon God, same attributes equate Naana with Allah. Creator God, Moon God and chief of the Gods. When Abraham left his home he also left this God and embraced another God(El Shaddai) who was worshipped as the mountain God |
All hail the Sun God On his day, 25th December the world feels his glory. Thank you for all the blessings u shower on the earth |
Christianity is a lie so that's very good, you all keep exposing urselves |
demmie1: this is the silliest piece of crap ever written! OMG! when did this come up into a human imagination?! if this is true, then obatala created the world.Actually it was Oduduwa that created the world/earth |
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