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mahdino: There are millions of people worshiping fire, cow, elephant, monkeys e.t.c. Instead of worshiping the one true God (Ela, Allah), the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad and they still get what they want and healing. They are satisfied and have peace. But it is false peace. So brother leave the false peace and embrace true peace by worshiping the one true God (Allah). That is peace in this world and the here after.

No one worships Fire, monkey, elephant. They use them as point of contact with the Gods.

And you are a fool to claim Allah is one true God, the Christians have their own Gods, Hinduism has their own Gods

So Allah is just one in a bunch like how it was in the kaaba

Abraham left Allah(whom he knew as Naana) and served El Shaddai
Moses served El Shaddai aka Yahweh
Jesus blasphemed against Yahweh and was murdered
Mohammed is the only Allah worshiper in ur list

Mumu they are living in false peace while u live in True peace, are u muslims living in peace atol? Is ur joy nt in violence? are Mohammed and Osama not ur role models?

Mintayo: All you wrote up here are Lies. Are u for real?
Luke was born 100yrs after Jesus?
Smh,like i am surprised.

lol slander.

You know I am right Jesus was ready long dead when Luke was born.
And besides shey u say all I wrote are lies show me the truth then.

John was not illiterate but a doctor right?
John wasn't thrown into boiling oil right?
Matthew has personality disorder right?
John was already dead when so imposters came to write revelations?

Pls u have no case.
Christianity is a fraud, and there's nothing to prove otherwise

the warrior72: The LORD JESUS CHRIST

My ancestor will answer for themselves, I'm only answerable to myself.

As I said before, u are not a candidate of heaven because u are Christian, U will have to workout ur salvation with fear & trembling for u to be a candidate of heave
In Christiannity salvation is not a bandwagon thing, rather a personal venture/affair with God.


Let me conclude by saying this, in this race I don't drag my father,mother or brother& sister,there are to make they decision whether to go to heaven or hellfire.

So u live for urself not to drag people into ur life or vice versa.

But u drag a dead Jew into ur life.

Assuming this Jesus is one of ur dead ancestors in the Egungun I would understand ur loyalty but a man who has no blood connection wit u watsoever.

Fear that's wat christianity is all about, keep people in for fear that if they leave no other destination but hell awaits them. Your early Christian fathers were indeed very smart, that even Mohammed had to use their strategy

cryptic: It is so strange and awful what people say about Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Have you thought about what he came to give to mankind? Most of you people saying terrible things about him would most likely be slaves, gladiators or even maidservants. A chief in your village would walk into your home and take your wife and daughters and there is absolutely nothing you would do about it. The king even had more power. Humans lived like gods among men; Oppressed other humans because they had access to more power, fame and wealth. Jesus Christ came to give mankind hope; he came to show mankind the way to truth and salvation. Unfortunately, some fools do not see the impact of Christ in their lives so they say ill things about him. All of you saying evil things about him should better get down on your knees to ask for forgiveness because he is coming soon indeed. He is coming with glory and power to judge both the quick and the dead. Christ represents everything good in you. He was blameless and both divine and human(Hypostatic Union). He came in this pure state to act as a sacrifice to God so we can be free: For without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Christ did not come for the righteous, he came for the sinners so they can be saved and shielded from the manipulations of Satan and his cohorts. Christ loves the sinner but hates sin. Sin leads to destruction of both the mind and the body but FAITH in Christ is what you need to be saved. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ is sufficient for all.

I rather serve a chief in my village than serve a long dead Jewish foreigner.

But I can't even serve any man(Ori mi maje)


The sacrifice of Rams on Sallah sweetens me better than Jesus sacrifice.

In sacrifice of meat, the people are to share in the meat as the universal forces share the Energy from the blood.

Did u eat the meat of Jesus?

Olril18: gullible africans....with ur farcial and bedvilling religion,u wondered why nigeria with all its plethora of "men of God " is such an underdeveloped country..
so waste ur precious time here discussing ur farcial religion that has even be dumped by the europeans who bring it to u.when u can use ur head and contribute to our dear failing country...
if the way of those who called themselves cristians hypocritical ways are anything to go by,nigeria would not even be in problems.
the person who even started this thread is a big fool..
while ur pastors, or prophets are using u to acheive their economic,and political aim,u are busy here opening a thread of paradise and hell fire....
foolish people
Oh God,opened d eyes of we africans,come to our rescue!!

Africa can never progress with christianity and Islam pulling us back

Bolurx: Reading through the comments above, my heart became sore.

Dispute upon dispute. What has this solved?

But one thing I want you to know beloved people, whether He is called Yeshua or Yahshua or Jesus, the truth is the name works! I'm a Yoruba and we call Him Jesu. Yet at the utterance of "Loruko Jesu Kristi" things happen!

I want to submit however at this juncture, that it takes divine revelation to actually become acquainted with the Person of Jesus Christ.

Hear this testimony:

There is a place called Erio Ekiti in Ekiti State in Southwest Nigeria. There is a mountain called Ori Oke Aanu(Mountain of Mercy) in that small town. People come from all over the country and abroad to pray in the name of Jesus.

A Muslim Woman also visited this mountain to pray after years of childlessness (27 yrs or so). As she came, she was heard by many saying," Jesus I didn't come to be a Christian. All I want is a Child."
After her stay on the mountain, she had a revelation. She saw a Man being dragged along the road. There were armed men, hefty and merciless men, beating Him as though He had committed a great atrocity. She was there wondering what that Man did that would incur such beatings and excruciating pain. She looked on feeling for the Man. He was dragged all the way to a place with blood gushing out of Him. He groaned. He wailed. He cried. These desperate men took him and nailed him to a tree.

Still in the revelation, the woman summoned courage and came to the Man, asking, "Mr, what is it that you have done. This agony is much and I can feel it."

Then the man opened his mouth amidst tears, saying, "I am Jesus. And I'm doing this for you." Jesus then took time to explain to her His person, His Love and His assignment for her.

After the revelation, this woman conceived she started having her own kids. She currently works in South Africa as a Preacher of the Gospel of Jesus and as a Minister for Barren Women.

I pray that the Lord will personally reveal Himself to you in Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

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To the bold- do u realize that when u pray on a mountain u pray to Orisha Oke? He is God of mountains and blesses those with problems who come to him in sincerity.
That woman got nothing from Jesus, her child belongs to Orisha Oke

Do u know that names don't matter in the spiritual realm? If u like pray in the name of poo, if u are sincere in the presence of Orisha oke he would bless u wit ur heart desire.


The woman's vision is common to any depressed and deluded individual.
many have had visions of many Orisha especially when they are going through hard times like the woman.

Truly I tell you, if you pray/swear by Sango it works faster and more effective than Jesus.
Many politicians swear by Jesus and Bible yet they steal from the nation freely without consequence, let's see how far if they start swearing by Sopona,Sango or Ogun

[quote author=John.jnr]illitrates lol. Mattew was a tax collector befor jesus called him john mark was a physician(doctor) he also wrote the bible, do u mean somone that works for the government as an accountant(mattew) is an illitrate. Maybe u should make some reserch.[/quote]Mark was the only disciple who wrote a book about Jesus.

The gospel of Matthew is a fraud, written by an imposter.

Luke wasn't even born until about 100yrs after Jesus's birth

John was an illiterate like Jesus, he had all his books written by Prochorus, who was a Roman

The revelation couldn't have been written by john, because he had died 10 yrs before the book was written.

You all need to trace the history of ur Bible and religion

rukytaiga: .

Is dat a rite question to ask? I wnt 2 bleave u av got eyes to see wat oda pples response av been abt d issue.dats my opinon n point of view on d issue.I tink if anyone is silly here,it shld b u.grow up .

Wat point of view? You just type and post anything no matter how senseless and u say point of view.

Well that's ur business, but u shouldn't just b posting things as silly as that.

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So true ^^

But Many Christians still keep being deceived by their pastors

Isis is the virgin mother of Horus in Kemetism.

Asherah is the Queen of heaven in Canaanite spirituality

Rhea is mother goddess in Greco-Roman spirituality

So Mary has many rivals

harbiola1: Are u a marmon

The word used in that verse was nt "Virgin" it was "Alma >Young lady" and "Emmanuel" was metaphorical as it's used in the context .
Only God knows where our brothers got their own Emmanuel.

I have come across this before.

I suspect the Romans for conspiracy in with using the "virgin" instead of "young lady"

Even Jesus wasn't truly born of a virgin, the Jews testify to this.

But everyone knows that Mary was a young lady when she had Jesus

Alfa is here again

ladionline: Oh my macof, bravo! You have just stated the very obvious about me. That's what Ido, so much like you! However, I don't change my standards quite often: I don't claim atheism today and deny it tomorrow. And i don't have your kind of free spirit, to choose whatever I'm confortable with, it might be stale, but it is what my data provides that I use. Thanks for your time

Where have I ever claimed atheism? assumptions again like usually.

I do wat ever I am comfortable with but when it comes to uncertain history u don't base on assumptions.

there's no evidence of any outside Ile-Ife origin, even the Ijebu who have their latest mass migration from waddai were exposed to Ile-Ife culture on their rest there before joining other aborigines and mixing together in present day Ijebu.

[quote author= John.jnr]Jesus promise a comforter (not muhammed), and the gift of the holy spirit was clearly stated in the bible- speaking in toungs, prophesy, healing, teaching, vision etc. This came to pass on the feast of pentacost (acts 2:16-36) tanks.[/quote]These are acts already possible in Paganic communities before Jesus was even born talk less of holy spirit coming.

Impotent holy spirit

the warrior72: No, rather son of the KING.

By they fruit u shall know them....

and who's the king?

You claim you have the truth and others have a lie, which isn't proven.

You claim you are liable to heaven and others are liable to hell.

wat do u say about ur ancestors?

tobby1987: Why r u guys dragging this issue...is deer anywhere in the bible where it is stated that Jesus was sent to the whole world...Jesus was asked and he said I am only sent to the lost sheep of Israelites....And also in the bible where Jesus said a companion will come after him,he will never speak of himself unless wat we v ordained for him to say..and he also said he will never come until I go.who is DAT companion? I guess ur and is holy spirit ryt....dats were u ppl get it wrong...prophet Muhammad (saw) was d prophet after Jesus and he his d companion Jesus spoke of....Have u asked urself a ques...why do the Catholics, Christ embassy, Jehovah witness, and others uses diff bible and can't even worship in the same place and even speak in diff language...But Islam is just only a book, d same Arabic language and can even pray anywhere ...

Mr. You are awfully wrong, nothing backs up ur claims not even Koran.

And the Bible makes no reference to any Arabian illiterate

Yeshua had no dealings wit Arabs and Predicted nothing like Mohammed because Arabia was all pagan during the time of Jesus

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]There is no other truth to be revealed! Christ is the truth who has been revealed in the flesh at the appropriate time. Many have come, bowed at the cross and received forgiveness and the truth sealed in their hearts by the Holy Spirit. It is not too late for you to do likewise, there is still room at the cross for you. Today is the day of salvation![/quote]How do u know that wat d holy spirit(if any exists) is sealing into ur head is the truth, have u proven this truth?

Have u proven that only christianity is true and others are lies?

Show ur proof and if u cannot then u are a liar, and the holy spirit(of course doesn't exist) is a liar or an impotent entity

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]You know Jesus has dealt a blow to all principalities and powers, He has made an open show of them , now We are the sweet savour of Gods knowledge everywhere!

So long as you refused Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour, the seed of God is not in you and you cannot have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you.

John 20: 28-29,…28Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" 29Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."[/quote]So then wat happens to ur ancestors? u run away from this question

Ur ancestors knew no Jesus or yeshua, talk less of believing in him.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]You are yet ignorant of the scriptures, even the bible tells us what will befall those who came before Jesus Christ was revealed. FYI,Elijah operated under a different dispensation with God, same as Enoch, Moses, Elisha, etc. For them, they believed God, and god in His infinite mercy imputed unto them His righteousness. God qualified them because they believed.

For you and me, God has marked a dispensation of grace, whereby, Christ Jesus shall be our mediator. If we accept His sacrifice, we are declared justified unto righteousness. If we reject christ's sacrifice, there remain no hope for us.

He sovereign God has testified concerning Jesus, that He is his son and that testimony we bear witness to!

Never has God said that the mediator between Him and man is Mohammed! Islam is falsehood personified and so is Buddha, Krishna, and they are weapons of deceit with which satan has planned to lead many astray.

No one who believes in those voices has the seed of God in him.[/quote]And you have no right to disrespect and claim people are rejected by God.

You are not God, and have never heard, seen or felt God, you do not know anything other than wat people have written in Bible for u.- which is not reliable, and cannot be considered universal truth as it is simply one perspective contradicting all others.

There's more chance of the major Bible doctrines and ur post to be false because a God of the universe wouldn't restrict righteousness to only few individuals and punish those he did not because he didn't fancy them enough to give them such righteousness like Abraham.

all humans are born with consciousness in order to feel(not literally) God, his will exist in everyman.

And people like u who claim Christians are the only God chosen people while others are rejected is simply discrimination similar to racism and disgusting bigotry.

By the way you didn't answer my questions

Wat happens to glorious pagans before Christ who didn't have Yahweh's righteousness? Alexander, Julio Cesar, Cleopatra etc.

And wat happens to those after Christ who didn't know Christ? Your ancestors of let's say 4 generations ago?

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]You are yet ignorant of the scriptures, even the bible tells us what will befall those who came before Jesus Christ was revealed. FYI,Elijah operated under a different dispensation with God, same as Enoch, Moses, Elisha, etc. For them, they believed God, and god in His infinite mercy imputed unto them His righteousness. God qualified them because they believed.

For you and me, God has marked a dispensation of grace, whereby, Christ Jesus shall be our mediator. If we accept His sacrifice, we are declared justified unto righteousness. If we reject christ's sacrifice, there remain no hope for us.

He sovereign God has testified concerning Jesus, that He is his son and that testimony we bear witness to!

Never has God said that the mediator between Him and man is Mohammed! Islam is falsehood personified and so is Buddha, Krishna, and they are weapons of deceit with which satan has planned to lead many astray.

No one who believes in those voices has the seed of God in him.[/quote]And you have no right to disrespect and claim people are rejected by God.

You are not God, and have never heard, seen or felt God, you do not know anything other than wat people have written in Bible for u.- which is not reliable, and cannot be considered universal truth as it is simply one perspective contradicting all others.

There's more chance of the major Bible doctrines and ur post to be false because a God of the universe wouldn't restrict righteousness to only few individuals and punish those he did not because he didn't fancy them enough to give them such righteousness like Abraham.

all humans are born with consciousness in order to feel(not literally) God, his will exist in everyman.

And people like u who claim Christians are the only God chosen people while others are rejected is simply discrimination similar to racism and disgusting bigotry.

By the way you didn't answer my questions

Wat happens to glorious pagans before Christ who didn't have Yahweh's righteousness? Alexander, Julio Cesar, Cleopatra etc.

And wat happens to those after Christ who didn't know Christ? Your ancestors of let's say 4 generations ago?

Pastor Olu T: U are right, though not %100 'cos there is no way u can take faith out of spirituality. In fact faith brings u to the realm of spirituality 'cos if u dont have faith u cant experience the realm of spirituality. I have had my share of spirituality, in fact I am going through what I am going through right now 'cos of my stand against religiousity in the church!

So why do u now say I am not spiritual bt religious?

I understand ur point of view but I maintain that spirituality isn't about faith, it's believing but not faith in sense of believing without evidence or logical reasoning.

spirituality often pursues more understanding and knowledge so there's no stable ground to build a faith in but this isn't even important, the important aspect is dat it is a course for spiritual enlightenment and growth of consciousness, no set rules but merely advice. You follow as suited, all for enlightenment and search for truth within ones consciousness to achieve growth and soul development.

Religion is of the core of christianity by acting upon rules to qualify a good Christian from a bad one, standards and rules are all religion is about and it is far from nature and it recognizes or appreciates no force of nature.

I say u are not spiritual but religious because all u do and post here are in line wit rules and standards for the so-called qualities of a good Christian.
You strive to pls someone(Bible God) and not urself, u see no need for knowledge and understanding of the unseen world as u believe u already do all there is to it through Bible.

This is being religious and not spiritual.

FOWOSIRE: mutation due to attempts to adapt to their individual environmenrs and also if we are look at the world's creation from judeo-christianic view, we can't exactly claim the first man and woman were white or black, they are at best coloured, jews are not exactly white or black, they are more like darker than white people, with less pointed nose and so on.

So u assert that Adam had Jewish features

I hope u jst addressed this Adam and Eve thing for d sake of the topic

I am not trying to spread confusion.

I have studied Yoruba origin to an extent that all I see are assumptions and false claims based on sentiments and hidden agenda

I am not atheist, I am a fan of science and practice Yoruba spirituality.

So if u have a problem with evolution you simply say it, you are very controversial individual and you hold no important points in Yoruba history, all u do is post to hail or condemn u have nothing to offer.

I'll keep following the thread and see wat u have, but of course as usually it's jst silliness and Itk mentality u have shown so far

bigfrancis wats ur take on these pentecostal churches with Demon possession?

I personally don't believe them, because I find it unbelievable to share a body with another soul(evil or not) without recognizing it urself.

[quote author=s!s! afrika]whats ur obsession with me?[/quote]Maybe I have a crush or wat do u think?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Brother macof. its ok. Kay 17 was just asking some genuine questions.



@Kay 17, pardon him. it so happens that we are surrounded by enemies of mental progress on all sides, here in Nairaland. Therefore naturally, we perceive everyone as a threat. because everyone here has an agenda.[/quote] I acted on impulse

These days I don't take potential insults against paganism lightly.

@shymexx
The Oduduwa story is not just a myth.

As I have repeatedly stated on this forum, Yoruba creation story of Oduduwa climbing down a chain is symbolic and shouldn't be taken literally

The creation story is spirituality and not history, so when u hear Oduduwa created earth and established Ile-Ife it talks about the Energies responsible for earthly matter and not a human who drops from the sky

Katsumoto: 3. You can't compare European language assimilation with that in Africa. Primarily because Europeans have spent the better part of their history conquering one another. For instance, Latin was spoken across much of Europe for close to 1500 years. The Saxons also took old english to England when they started conquering England in the 5th century. African conquests were on smaller scales and didn't last long enough for conquering languages to supplant native ones.

Currently watching a show based on the Saxon and Franco wars.

Quite informative

shymexx: Why are you focusing on what he did and not who he's? Are there not Yoruba's in Nigeria who were born and raised in Yoruba culture that have done things worse than whatever the guy did? Yes, he was brainwashed and he committed a barbaric act - however, how does that negate his Yoruba-ness?

Being Yoruba isn't just about learning the culture. It's inborn. It's there in your consciousness and you can't run away from it. It's an identity. So I'd say to be Yoruba, you definitely need to have Yoruba ancestry - either paternal, maternal, or both.

Being Yoruba is there in the consciousness of a child of Yoruba parents but wat happens when he refuses those instincts?

Yorubanesss is not just about ancestry or bloodline, it is more of devotion and cultural inclination.

I have met many Aniocha deltans who seem like perfect Yoruba people.

I have also met a lot of so-called omo Yoruba who have said they hate being Yoruba or hate being African

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]We have the seed of God in us and you do not! The truth is shared abroad our hearts by the Holy Ghost, thereby we have such confidence to boldly proclaim that the truth of God is in us![/quote]And how do u know that I don't have the seed of God?

How foolish of u to claim Christians are God chosen while non-Christians are not.

You are a real idiot of low mental capabilities.

Gods seed to everything on earth and not just humans talk less of Christians

You claim u know the truth through holy ghost, a ghost torments ur life and brings u stupidity u claim u know the truth by sitting down in church hearing ur foolish pastors spread lies about our ancestors and u watch without defending the men who without them ur fathers sperm cells couldn't have existed.

Bastard child

cannonnier: lol
and he went to oxford university.

can't even define "idol".

now you will tell me in the show "the american idol" they just arrange a Phalang of stones for the the spectators and judges.

Lol I can define "idol"

But maybe u know something I don't, so give ur definition of "idol" and the dictionary u got it from.