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sportfeva: Base on my own little knowledge of the history, Oduduwa travel from arab region perhaps due to war and when he settled in Ile-Ife, they just adopt him as their leader base on some foretelling qualities which he possess. He gave birth a child and that lone child gave birth to many which mark the progenitor of the dominant Yoruba race. Meaning the dominant Yoruba race are from Oduduwa tree base on assumption.
Remember, Oduduwa met some people too which make up. Though, no concise recording in those era even by walls or prints.

Oduduwa didn't come from middle east

He came from somewhere around Iwo or maybe even Igodomigodo

Rubbish lies op

Yoruba history cannot be told by Fulani
Yoruba history cannot be taken seriously when told by brainwashed muslims trying to direct everything to Mecca
Yoruba history cannot be taken kindly when told by certain mumu about us originating from Judah- Israel (same tribe of Jesus)

All these history of Yoruba that I see everywhere are just plots to connect Yoruba people with the place of their religious affiliation. I used to go round saying Ile-Ife is where the first men were formed, but let's see scientific and archeological prove

B.S.

Ile-Ife is the cradle of all man-kind.

there's course for archeology and Great research to be taken on this.

But apart from Yoruba people, how else claims Ile-ife is the cradle of man kind?

Wat if mankind didn't first evolve in the Same place?

Sepp360: nice one bro!... Buh i don't see any big deal or the impossibility in it!... No language is more superior, no language is perfect!... If we accepted the english language whole heartedly, its simply cos everyone loves civilization, exposure and development!...

English doesn't promote civilization. It's mindset not language dat promoters civilization and development

Tower of babel doesn't exist. God is flesh he doesn't have a footprint

I don't understand the OP

Is he trying to say Oyo is made up of different ethnic groups?

And this Nok people are extinct today

How Oromo and Amharic reach there?

peteregwu: you are already an unbeliever. unbelievers don't go to heaven. babalawo ends in hell fire after this life, if they refuse to accept Jesus as their Lord and personal saviour.

And where do Imam/Alfa and Judaic Priest ends up?

Lemme see anybody take best African in Africa award from Mba

As for the top shot Moses suppose manage squeeze inside that list na confed miss out and this Liverpool loan cause am

Mikel for Best African footballer 2013

Lordlexyy: Ignorance and frustrationt has gotten a better part of you. There's no need trying to convince you. But be rest assure that every idle word will give an account. Bible talks about those who speak evil of what they know nothing about. Instead of being bossy and puff up, wisdom demand that you compare knowledge to ascertain which point to the right part.

Unfortunately, after many years no one has been able to successfuly disprove the scripture. Evidence on miracles, healing, NDE abound this day of the resurrection of Christ which i'm a witness and a partaker. God help you.

I say things about what I don't know
I know ur Bible and all Christians says

Wat do u think about pagans?

Unfortunately no one has been able to successfully disprove DC comics, yet only little kids or adults wit brain disorder believes that superman is real and alive fighting alien villains in space

PS. There's a lot of evidence to disprove ur script. The script can even be used against itself.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Wadd is a War God.


I will open a thread on Arab Religion later with reference to Ibn Kalbi's book.[/quote]Ok would like to see it

Oluwatola5: Yes, i read my bible to that place sir.

What else does my coming from the yoruba ethnic group demand from me? I dont seem to get your point again. At least i think you have heard some cases of some whites leaving their country and coming to Africa, Nigeria to be precise to worship the gods here, did anyone ask their God to judge. Please this is my life. You dont need to feel so concerned to even ask some ancestors to judge abeg..

Coming from the Yoruba ethnic group demands wat any ethnic group demands

Loyalty, Practice of culture, respect to the ancestors, And absence of foreign sire.

Most of these seemingly foreign folks in Yoruba spirituality are of Yoruba ancestry, some non-Yoruba Africans
And Their Gods is same gods everywhere in the world. Gods for all, not gods for Yoruba alone
And nobody preached to convert them, many of them kept the spirituality alive during slavery and their children keep it going, many were came into it because they saw the lies of Islam and christianity, most of them have also lost the spirituality of their own ancestors, But u have something ur smart ancestors have left for u and is still alive.

You slander them because of a book of the Jews and you are even ready to denounce being Yoruba.
you are so stupidd

You better move to Israel and serve Yahweh, where no one would talk about Orisha

@roy

1. Adam and Eve were not Arabs. But according to Pagan Arab spirituality the moon God is credited with creation of man

And according to the Bible and Koran Adam(first man) worshipped the creator God who happens to be the God of moon Hubal/Naana/Wadd in Arabian/Mesopotamian/Assyrian spirituality.

So There. Another point to show that Allah is the moon God


2. Adam and Eve(First male and female; ancestor of all humans) only exist in Jewish/Canaan and Arab myth. I don't know if such is promoted by Mesopotamia and Assyria

However Yoruba spirituality states A whole lot of people were created as first humans. Some light skinned, some dwarfs, some disabled, and the rest perfect dark skinned

The God everybody worshipped was Obatala, chief of the Orisha

Jesus is not God

No God can come down to earth to manifest

God is present in everybody

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Actually bro, Im not sure Allah is the God of the Moon.

Allah was the Creator I think. Hubal was the Moon God.[/quote]yes I know hubal was worshipped as a moon God in Arabia or is it Assyria

But I used this points to come to my conclusion, correct me if am wrong

Ur kasdim regarded as Ibrahim/Abraham's birthplace.

Ur is a nation of the Mesopotamian Ethnic territory.

Naana/Sin was the patron God of Ur

Naana was a moon God in Mesopotamian spirituality

Naana is regarded as the creator of earth- Mesopotamians believed the earth was formed from the moon

Naana is also credited with the creation of man

Naana is the chief of the Gods

Arabs claim Abraham as their ancestor

Arabs are distantly semitic in racial division

Pre-Islamic Arabia had a spiritual practice similar to Mesopotamia and Assyrians

I've digged up facts about pre-Islamic Arabia worshiping the moon God as chief God just like Mesopotamians

Allah was already a pagan God in Arabia before Mohamed

There are three names linked to moon God in that territory Hubal, Naana/sin and Wadd

Koran claimed Abraham was devoted to Allah, Let's use two options here
1. Allah is the God he worshipped in Ur
2. Allah is the God he accepted in Canaan

The God that Abraham accepted in Canaan was El Shaddai in canaanite spirituality.

El Shaddai's patron city from the time of Moses was midian

Moses's father-in-law was a priest of El Shaddai

The mountain of God(El Shaddai) is found in Midian

Koran tries to claim god of Israel- same god of midian is Allah

God of Israel was originally god of mountains, records of this were lost after Israel's return from Babylon

Allah- "Al Ilah" in English means "The God" al ilah could be used to refer any God depending the use of words in a sentence. But I believe the word was mostly used for the chief God- Moon God as a mark of respect.

Islam uses the crescent sign of Naana

Islam uses a lunar calendar

Mohammed's father was a pagan named "Abdullah" servant of Allah

GeneralShepherd: Do I sound like a bible believer to you? So Moses is your justification for hitler? So because you want to attack christians you declare that Hitler was a good leader to his people? Most of the Jews Hitler killed have ancestors that had lived upto ten generations in Germany, how are does Jews not Germans?

The holocaust is one of the worst crime against humanity ever

I condemn Hitler, wat he did wasn't good for the soul.
But If u can condemn Hitler, you should condemn Moses too

Oluwatola5: To answer your first question concerning our leaders being made to swear oaths to gods like Amadioha, Ogun and Ayilala, in as much as i dont want my reply to sound like it is coming from my christian perspective but i cant help it here. The bible says ''If our God should count iniquity, who shall stand?''. Why on earth do we destroy humanity by evoking wraths of some merciless gods on them when no one has been upright from the beginning. If you want such then i expect you to be without any sin, no matter how little. Besides i dont believe in swearing one bit. BTW, if this is what serving gods involves, meting out their anger at will to their believers, then i would rather die a christian and serve the God who is slow to anger and merciful even to the vilest offenders. To answer your 2nd question asking if i am a true yoruba or a jew wannabe. Well i dont know your yardstick for determining if one is. But i am a yoruba girl, and i hold my place with high esteem, but if me deciding not to worship their gods doesnt make me one, then no problem at all..........By virtues of adoption and faith, i am no Jew, but i am a believer and a daughter of God.........

Are u sure u read ur Bible? Because that Bible god isn't slow to anger, he has killed billions of humans in just 3000+years of Bible events

And look at u willing to denounce ur ancestors and loyalty to the Yoruba nation for a Jew.

May the land which our ancestors fought for which u walk on judge u.

Statues are really significant. The Gods bless us and protect Africa from natural disasters. May they perform their duties to earth as best as possible

Ase!

Tb Joshua is evil but he does more charity and giving than any other pastor?

Tb Joshua uses demons to cast demons.but who else cast demons better than him?

I am not a fan of him and I don't know his secrets but his surface is clean, he acts like a soul that God would bless immensely

But As a so-called wise man, I don't see his wisdom.

His powers are gotten from pagan practices. Our Priest know them, and I know some of them, the worst is Omega fire ministries and champions royal assembly in Abuja, they are both ex-muslims and they brutally condemn paganism, they both cast demons and make prophecies. But people who know how it's done know where the power is from. stage acting is also a big practice in these casting demon churches.

Don't blame them, blame the holy spirit for teaching them wrong maths

Jesus is dead na...wats all this for?
Let him rest in peace pls.

Jesus sent me to tell u Christians to leave him alone, and that u should all forget heaven because all his brethrens(Jews and the lost sheep of Israel) haven't gotten tickets yet.

Jesus is a dead false Messiah
Allah is the God of the moon
Yahweh is God of mountains

Shikena! Everybody realize this already

GeneralShepherd: To say Hitler was a great leader is absolute stupidity!!

I wonder what kind of human being you are and someone liked your post? Pathetic

Was Moses a good leader?

kobonaire: na for December twenty five

abeg be serious

All these Nollywood talk. Is it these movies that lack quality and international standard

I liked the productions of the early 2000's
but the ones now are just young dudes acting crazy.
Yoruba movies of then so horrible, thank God the Yoruba spirituality is being promoted in more recent movies, even making the movies better
Thanks to Ade folayan, and Ola balogun for their bold steps into Movies

Abeg when match dey start?

^^^ Arab slave

Wat do u have to tell me about Islam's history?

Oya let's go, who first worshipped Allah according to Koran.

I'll show u that the Koran is almost always wrong. A piece of book that isn't different from any novel

DoctorStephen: First of all,I will like to inform you that I DID NOT DECEIVE ANYONE with the heading.The motive behind the post was to appeal to my fellow Christians to shift their attention from the physical to the spiritual,from the paintings unto being Christlike
(A Christian ought to be Christlike.We who are REAL Christians are CHRIST'S TRUE PICTURE
"...And the disciples were first called Christians first in Antioch"Acts11:26)
To my fellow believers,LET OTHERS SEE JESUS IN YOU.
Lives changed by Christ is a living proof of Jesus' existence.
Idols are impotent.I came from a family where Ifa was worshipped,so, babalawos can't be compared with a small boy who has JESUS.

Bloody lair

I have followed ur profile posts u are a stacked brainwash Christian

If ur family eg father or mother serves Orunmila, they should have exposed u to truth.

Bloody liar, that's how u idiotic Christians lie against pagans

You know nothing about Ifa so don't u dare mention Ifa, esu a da isoro aye si le to ba fi Ifa paro

MEILYN: i bet he wont answer this...

Puppet, you just here doing supporters club.

Show us How Yahweh is the most high God.
I've shown how he isn't, and I even showed who the real most high God is

NativeBoy: More weasling. Perhaps you can also show that Psalm 46 was edited in 1610. The KJV translation began in 1604.

Before you accuse others of plagiarism, look to your own acts. You plagiarized on page 6.

For the benefit of followers of this thread, here is the excerpt from the article you tried to pass off as your own. The quote is towards the end.

http://www.informafrica.com/afrikan-consciousness/religious-slavery/christianity-scam-exposed-myths-fairytales-superstitions/

We can't keep going back and forth like this. You have lost your integrity. You tried at all costs to undermine the KJV translation and even the meaning of El-Shaddai. You chose to ignore the fact that the conventional meaning is known by scholars to be "God Almighty." Instead you chose to insist on a weakened theory that its meaning is "god of the hills."

It is clear that you will contort facts, latch on to weak information for support, and putting forth conspiracy theories, just to continue to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.

Please try to explain your blatant plagiarism. I don't see any citations.

Show us how El Shaddai means Almighty

I've shown u how It means destroyer, mountains and fruitfulness. Abi you want to distort Hebrew-English dictionary?