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Alfa pls carry on,I love ur post. Show dem the devil they worship |
This op is a funny guy, I can't believe you trying to affiliate boko haram with christianity. The boko guys are core muslims, only muslims are bombing terrorist experts. I have never read the quran but I hear muslims hypocriticaly call Islam the religion of peace and I always say to myself "wat peace? All I see Islam showcase around the world is violence" Am sorry to you African muslims but I can't know that something is out of place and keep quite or lie about it. Most muslims I know, won't sit quietly if u talk abt Islam anyhow, they'll jst call boys to beat u up, Christians don't do dat, instead they'll debate with you and sometimes make you see reason with them. Muslim nations have a violent character. Only Qatar and UAE are different. honestly Islam is bad for this world |
[quote author=Ijele-igbo]Who is Orunmila? A fake, powerless god! I don't worship the devil..... I worship the Lord Almighty through the Lord Jesus Christ........ You are in the dark and blinded to the truth!! Receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior and be saved.... I pray God Almighty delivers your soul and set you free from the forces of darkness and bring you into his marvelous light![/quote]Orunmila is the god of wisdom and knowledge, the creator of Ifa. All the knowledge you need to live a good life is recorded in Ifa. Orunmila is the right hand man of God, Ikeji Olodumare. I was in the dark but now I see the light. I receive Ori has my guardian and personal savior |
philfearon: I know exactly What ur religion is all about....But i have to tell u that those things u call gods are Demons and they report to the Devil himself...Some of the demons were angels prior b4 there fall,and God didnt take our their powers...They all{these fallen angels-demons} seek worship just like their Leader,Satan...Who else will they decieve into worshipping them except humans? They found gullible humans like ur forefathers,used their fear against them and made them worship them as gods....No you don't you don't understand anything about Yoruba religion. A few posts above you claim the gods are mere wooden images now you say they are demons. Why changing mind? You looking for any possible way to degrade the religion. And if I am to follow wat you posted here, Jesus is the demon and jehovah is satan, because they are the ones that say u must worship them, it's them that needs ur worship, they found gullible hunans like you and used your fear against you and forced you to worship them. Imagine u saying that Jehovah didn't take out their powers, why so? He is their leader, the big boss himself, satan is just the ambassador taking instructions from your God |
philfearon: You are in denial....Myth is a story that is untrue...UNTRUE in the capital!well that's left for u. But don't degrade my religion, or derail the thread |
philfearon: You are stupid...Did u invite me here to come and help u propagate ur silly languish in ignorance? You must be off ur mind silly!!well if you choose to stay. You are welcome but don't derail the thread. And I have told you the meaning of myth- it means story told by ancient civilizations. It doesn't mean fake or true. The bible itself is a myth, so stop showing ur lack of education here. Orunmila a da e l'ogbon, Ase! |
[quote author=Ijele-igbo]Tell me which name above the heavens or under this earth that is greater than the name Jesus Christ? God the father has glorified his son Jesus Christ..... Jesus christ is the messiah of the world..... He died and resurrected..... He holds the key of death and hell..... In the name of Jesus Christ, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is Lord..... Give your life to Christ son so that your soul will be saved.....[/quote]The name of God is superior to any name. You are jst a devil worshiper to degrade the glory of God by raisin a dead Jew to his level. No one knows Jesus Christ, no such person with that name existed. You don't even worship a deas Jew, you worship dust. Orunmila is bringing the knowledge of the universe, and acting as an example to his followers and children. A man cannot die, and resurrect himself after 3days. That makes your god a killer. In the name of Olodumare every knell shall bow and marvel at his magnificence, every tongue will confess that Olodumare is Lord. No Jesus attached, and if I want to I can dettach the orishas. Am not compelled to worship a skinking, gay Jew Ifa a gbe mi o |
obadiah777: your funerallike his funeral? |
[quote author=Ijele-igbo]Break it down for them mayne..... Tell them who Jesus Christ is.....[/quote]Jesus Christ is nobody. He doesn't even know his name, neither do u Christians know his name |
obadiah777: well, my belligerent and loquacious heathen friend you are very correct, Jesus was done by man. i believe the letter J only came into existence in the 1600s so therefore what was his name before the letter J was created ?. you sir are indeed correct. the name Jesus is an adaptation of the greek god zeus. he was a hebrew from the trive of juda ( hebrews 7 vs 14 ) and therefore spoke hebrew and hence his name had to have been hebrew. now if we look at what his name represented in english >>>>>bottomline christianity is useless. Your Messiah is done by men. Whether yeshua, yahwahshiwa, Jesu, Jesus, ieosus or anything. I might as well call him dog poo |
obadiah777: it is what it is chief. man did god. gods like obatala, sango, amadioha etc etc was done by manJesus was also done by men. So I guess u giving atheist more reasons to debunk religion as a useless human creation. |
obadiah777: it is what it is chief. man did god. gods like, Jesus, amadioha etc etc was done by man |
Deha: do u need ur ifa to tell u that your ancestors are devils?Jesus is dead and gone....deal with it. Jesus is even less a thing than the Yoruba orishas |
philfearon: You are stupid bro...Your religion is worshipping devil yet u are too blind,u dont even know what you are Worshipping.....It's christianity dat is worshipping devil. We don't even recognize any devil *hiss* why do u always show your lack of knowledge? Instead of you too ask questions. I post a link to you, so you could understand what the Yoruba religion is about, but you still swim in stupidity and lack of knowledge. I shouldn't blame u anyway, you are not Yoruba assuming u were I would have serious questions for you. But I would correct your errors because am such a nice guy 1. We don't worship devil, You are not the one to tell me wat we worship, when you don't even understand wat you are rebuking. We worship gods but these gods who take our case before the supreme God. Much like ur belief of Jesus taking ur case before God. You know the truth is that Jesus is your god, so if you accuse us of worshipping the devil because we worship sango and ogun then I'll accuse u of worshiping the devil for worshipping Jesus. 2. This guy, pls try to read and understand things, Ifa isn't a book, it's a divination system. where did you hear dat Ifa has a book? The babalawos are required to memorize the 256 verses of odu Ifa orally. I don't know if by now the babalawo training is done with the odu Ifa written but back in the old days they were taught the verses Orally. 3. The Bible is only 1200 years, Ifa's age cannot be figured out. Ancient Egyptians used Ifa, Ifa has always been part of Yoruba paganism it starts with the Yoruba race and it seems the Yorubas have a connection with the ancient Egyptians, making it even harder to assimilate when Ifa came to existence. Ifa cannot copy anything from that piece of paper |
philfearon: See how People languish in Ignorance!I hope you are done talking rubbish. Now if u don't have anything reasonable to add in the topic of discussion, which is Ifa and the yoruba spiritual belief you can just un-follow the thread. Because I see you are not born to have knowledge. Am still going to open a thread to bash your useless christianity, maybe then we can talk. |
philfearon: Paganism!...Paganism! Paganism!! The way satan has confused folks eh! Damn it!1. Satan doesn't exist, at least in my life and Mt religion he doesn't-so absurd to believe, an angel would rebel against God. No one is capable of rebelling against God, it's impossible 2. Christianity is really making ur brain rotten, how is using technology, embracing another man culture? 3. Everybody is a child of God, there's no such thing as only son, that's something for dogs to believe. I am a son of God 4. Where have you noticed me painting my paganism? This guy has a low IQ. Have you seen me denying paganism? 5. So I don't need anything to mediate with God? Hypocritical fool, wat do u do with the dead jew called yeshua? If you say I don't need gods to reach God, I believe u because even Ifa supports dat, God is already in us, we just need to grow in spirit. But the same applies with the dead Jew, he is dead and gone, he has even forgotten that he promised to come back(dats if he ever planned to come for lame brain Christians of this generation or any generation) 6. The Devil you know doesn't exist, and Men are the rulers of the world 7. Tradition and culture is a pair, every ethnic group has both. So if u are too loose headed to figure that out you had better back off 8. Can u explain satanism? because I knw u still don't understand paganism having read through this thread but now explain satanism.let's see why you call paganism satanism 9. Pls Wat religion blinds the worshipers? Answer: Christianity. one principle of christianity is to believe without doubt, exclude intelligence let your Bible think for you. Is that not sheepish? We buy rams and cocks to sacrifice but isn't it us that eats the meat? Did you read what I wrote about animal sacrifice on this thread? Am sure you read nothing, even if you did, you understand nothing, your brain is poo and you prove me right over and over again. wait a minute, does your God not collect animal sacrifice? he even requests for human sacrifice, or you don't really read your piece of compiled paper called Bible where you God instructed Israelites to make sacrifice of all kind to him,and am sure if he could ask Abraham for human sacrifice, he would have asked so many people which the compilers of the Bible refused to add |
philfearon: Go and read CRY, THE BELIEVED COUNTRY-by Alan Paton,it will help u undastand the secrets and reasons behind your myths,and why they are there!! Peace..if am to believe that last statement, it means the Bible can never be a true story. Case closed |
kizmartino: @macof..I worship God without doubt, I worship God with all my heart. Why do u imply dat God is complicated? God is nt complicated, it's easy to understand him, I understand God. So if upon ur Bible u don't understand God, it jst means ur religion is useless |
kizmartino: @macof.. |
kizmartino: @macof..I worship God without doubt, I worship God with all my heart. Why do u imply dat God is complicated? God is nt complicated, it's easy to understand him, I understand God. So if upon ur Bible u don't understand God, it jst means ur religion is useless |
Uyi Iredia: True. In Edo traditional religion which also includes Ifa worship. The head is important. A sacrifice is made to the head, as my Dad once said 'serve your head'.yes dats true. All beliefs dat recognize Ifa teachings believe in the importance of Ori |
FOLYKAZE: I still dont see how it religion. Thats the problem im having here.well you are right. No Orisa ask for worship, not even Olodumare or Ori ask for worship, it's jst a thing that we has Yoruba choose to do. No compulsion in paganism, u don't have to worship or even participate in the festivals, the gods don't need our worship and they never asked us to worship them but the ancient Yoruba believed that worshipping them was a good idea-lets worship them and they'll favor us |
philfearon: So i lost everything to the Jews right and European masters right?have u ever heard of Orisa Ibeji? Am sure u haven't. They are a pair of the same entity, responsible for twins. There was never any record of killing of twins in yorubaland, although banishment was a regular punishment. When the Orisa came to earth as the twin children of Osun and Sango, the people thought badly of Osun and in order for her not to lose her place she banished them herself, but her rival wife Oba took care of the twins and they were a great blessing to the Yorubas since then twins have been cherished in yorubaland, and the time alaafin kori banished his twin sons calamity befell him and his throne until he died-a punishment from Orisa Ibeji. Ever since then it became part of our culture to call twins Taiwo ati Kehinde after the names of Orisa Ibeji. All this happened over 700 yrs before European contact. So I wonder where u got ur information that the Europeans stopped killing of twins in Yorubaland. The way u think am stupid to believe this religion is little compared to wat I think of you for believing christianity Ifa doesn't do phone calls, Ifa is high in omnisence and omnipotence. I use a cell phone cause it's technology, I use my money to buy it, using European technology doesn't make me slave to them, it's unlike u dat behave like dem, and life to die for anything they tell u. Yorubaland has been producing it's own clothes before European contact, Wat do u think Adire and Ankara is about? Abi it's ur masters dat gave us material to use? We have been making our own dye in many colors, and mixing materials to form a blend for over 1000 yrs yes they are huts made with clay, irons and bamboo but they are usually done according to your status. go to Ile-ife or Ilesha in Osun state you would see nice huts done in different patterns, size and comfortable conditions all according to status of the individual. Again this is technology, the internet and phone is jst a new aged advancement in science it has nothing to do with religion, or submission to the will of men And times without number Pagan 9ja and I have tried to explain our religions to you but you Christians are too dumb to understand- wooden images are idols nt gods, gods are spiritual/natural forces that take charge of the universe under the instructions of the supreme God. The wooden images are made by men but these gods are made by God, we worship the gods, bow and place sacrifice in front of the idol knowing that the god is nt physical but use the idols as a physical item to feel at ease, Imagine worshiping something u can't see u have to make something u can see to represent him. it's like a case of you being apart from your loved one, maybe ur wife but you use her picture to make u remember and think of her, you feel more at ease just seeing her face though the picture. |
FOLYKAZE: What exactly is Yoruba religion?the Yoruba religion is driven by the teachings of Ifa and worship of Orisa. I believe u knw this na, why ask again? Anyway it's the spiritual belief of the Yoruba people, seeking help from the orisa, offering sacrifice and praises to them in the hope of maintaining a relationship with them so as to gain assistance in life. However Ifa says Ori is wat we should worship first before any Orisa. Ori knows us more than we know ourselves, that is why achieving knowledge and keeping balance is essential for connecting with our Ori. These are the major principles of the Yoruba religion. |
Deha: Your Ori abi? Demons cant try u abi?you seem to understand the devil really well, even better than God. you believe in the devil, I don't. No one is capable of rebelling against God, dat is just so stupid to believe in a devil dat is against God. And u shouldn't provoke me by affiliating my religion to ur devil, and stop insulting my gods, I dont want to start insulting Jesus. And are u by any chance saying my ancestors are devils? eranko bi ti e, omo osi, olori buruku bi ti e, ma sa da nu bi mi, o ma da ko l'ogbon die. |
eziza: Ignorant, you say? From someone who did not know an Edo name that venerate the Oba?am nt in the mood to argue ethnic stuff. When I have ur time I'll get back to you |
ooman: yes, but one question remains ... how did this gods or Gods if you will, get their consciousness? Because consciousness is not something that can just exist, it requires billions of years natural selection....once you can answer how gods came to be, accepting the theory isnt so hard....the gods(awon orisha) were formed from the energy Olodumare possess. |
philfearon: Your First Sentence said all the crap u wrote is a "Myth"....So,it is in the Myth section of my mind...It is Better for me to deceive myself with wat my ancestors have believed, then to deceive myself wit wat the Jews believe. myth" simply means story- it doesn't mean true story, or fake story, or imagined story. It is a word used for ancient stories by various ethnic groups, including greeks, jews, Yoruba, Igbo, Egypt etc. I am Yoruba and I rather be foolish to believe be a Yoruba, than to be foolish being a Yoruba but believe to be a Jew. you should know dat the stories in Genesis 1-11 are are based on the original Jewish myth. Only Jews believe Adam and eve. And all dat crap you read in Genesis 1. I am Yoruba and blindly in love with my people, culture, religion, tradition, music, fashion, language etc. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world, unlike u that have lost ur birth right to ur Jews and European masters |
FOLYKAZE: OpIt's more appropriate to call Ifa a method of spirituality. Ifa is nt religion, but is a central part of the Yoruba religion, so many non-yorubas have been introduced to Ifa. Ifa is a system of divination, a way to seek and find knowledge, Ifa deals with life in relation to the spiritual. So Ifa is definitely nt a religion |
Logicboy03: I am more advanced than you.I used to have respect for you until I read this post. Are u African? |
eziza: 1) Oranmiyan did not reign in Benin.I have time to mix words wit someone as ignorant as u |
obadiah777: who did god ? man did god.How can u say man did god |
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you did say 'god' right ?