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FOLYKAZE: which religion? Santeria or lukumi or Afa in togo voodoo?

all of the above, that is why some people refer to the collective combination of all these beliefs as Aborisha

italo: Now you are limiting God. Who told you that God cannot be in heaven and on earth simultaneously?

And who told you that God cannot manifest himself in three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

Who taught you to limit God this way?

so are u saying that God lied when he said he was the only God?

JMAN05: @op

Mithra is a myth but Jesus is not.

No one with the name "Jesus" ever existed only around 1300AD

Bidam: Nope,i am a christian..You failed to follow the thread of the post that led me to ask you this question.The problem with you guys is that you assume too much.

Atleast you admit this part and you are not far from the truth,even the bible state that God is LIGHT.
How do you convince millions of uneducated folks?It all boils down to man made philosophies which was my argument with the other poster.You said someone needs education.Can education be taught WITHOUT BOOKS and imaginations?
I am not in disagreement with this assertion
What about the God in your philosophical science book and fiction does it make sense?Is it not also MAN'S IMAGINATION?

You claim dat I assume too much,
But your Bible is based on assumptions

Many Years before books, schools and western style education, pagans have been educating themselves and learning science. This is not about what you learn in schools or in churches but what you realize with your common sense.

Alexander the greatest war Lord ever to walk the earth was a pagan taught by Aristotle, Aristotle is one of the greatest philosophers and all his philosophies were realized with his common sense, his books were nt based on wat people say, or wat he read from other people. If a man could be dat great a philosopher through his common sense, wat stops any other other person?
So education can be taught without books.

All that I've posted is my philosophy, I know it's too hard for Abrahamics to accept because of their brainwashing but if you can step outside of the box u were born in and seek knowledge, you would realize the truth of Macof's philosophy of God

For the record- I am pagan, and my paganic religion supports my philosophy

striktlymi: Christian nominees:

1) Tobechi
2) Reyginus
3) ATMC
4) Divepen
5) Ishilove

Pagan nominees:

1) Macof
2) Paganja
3) Follykaze (I truly don't know where to place him)
4)
5)

Irreligious nominees:

1) Alfa seltzer
2) Logicboy
3) Mr. Troll
4) aManFromMars
5) Uyi Iredia

The blanks can be filled with anyone of the 'sects' choosing.


Please review and let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!

Ifeness should be in the list of pagans. And folykaze should be off, unless he personal puts himself there which I doubt.

Mintayo: smh...so many confused souls.

I don't think a soul can be confused. But wat is your definition of SOUL?

Tgirl4real: Well, to answer your question, Ifa is a religion.

And religion is spiritual.

Ifa is not a religion.
It is only part of some religions

italo: "What if."

Well, he wasnt being referred to as a god. He is God who came to earth in flesh.

exactly wat I was trying to force someone to say. You claim he is the real God, asin the creator of the universe.

So then Jesus is God, that means God was absent in heaven for 33 years. I wonder how the universe was still in balance when God was absent from his duty.

And it also means Jesus can't be the Son of God, because u can't be the son of your father and be your father at the same time

Gombs: This whole part

"That
was when Joseph went and Begged Pharoah to
please accomodate his starvation and hunger ridden
people. Now Pharoah graciouslyopened his doors to
these Jews, not knowing that they were leaches
that would never leave.. They stayed there and
multiplied like rats and almost filled up the Egyptian
lands with Jew babies"

The funny part of it all is the "Not knowing they were leeches that would never leave" meanwhile exodus was about these folks wanting to leave.

You are the one who doesn't understand the Bible.

Look at you protecting the interest of your slave masters.

At first the Jews loved it in Egypt, they began to act like they owned the land along side the aborigine Egyptians.

The new pharaoh of fear that the Jews might plan to take over Egypt, or ally with their enemies. Decided to make them slaves, make them work for all the free enjoyment they have had.

Now tell me if na u wey dem don turn to slave won't u want to leave?

worth: As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom[/center]As for me and my family we love God of isreal because is the through God who can do anything i mean anything.He is true and only God who can create a path in d middle of red sea and many more.He loves soo tay and Jesus christ to the world to die for the sins of the world.mehn I love this Almighty God, and is unquestionable dat is my God the God of isreal the God of heaven and earth the God of everything.shalom

Did you have to post the same senseless thing 3 times?

Pls take ur slave self out of here. Worshipping the God of another man when you have your God

Pastor Olu T: Smile, u are the one danger here bro, 'cos if dont believe He is God then u dont even know Him at all!

what is your definition of GOD?

italo: No need to ask him that. We already know how coped with the first Christian who called him "God" - Thomas.

Long before Thomas did, Isaiah did.

In fact, Sacred Scripture is filled with passages referring to Jesus as God.

what if he was being referred to as god. Cause there can't be two Gods

Filmewell: i will ask him why he allowed evil.

Jesus has no power against evil, is he God?

nnofaith: Jesus visited hundreds of countries, he was in China, Japan, Australia, Brazil, the USA, Ethiopia, Nigeria etc. Working diligently to spread the gospel. If you check the book of Paul chapter 5 verse 6 you will see it there.

lmao this guy funny die.
am enjoying ur sarcasm anyway

Bidam: what is the source of this energy?

Speaking like an atheist, are u one?

Well to answer ur question.

God is the source of all energy, God himself is pure energy, the ultimate form of energy.

As any educated person would know, energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can only change from one form to another

The entire universe is formed from God; he is the source of everything.

The God of Israel as portrayed in the Bible is nothing more than the imagination of men, it makes no sense.

I see some posts have already been removed

Bidam: What is the evidence that energy exist? In books or your imaginations?

I can't believe someone is asking this question...wat stupid evidence do u need? Energy is everywhere

thegreatman4ww: pls wat religion be dat ooooooo.......
curious to know

Yoruba religion aka Aborisha

Mintayo: And the deciever was sent out packing after he rebelled against God,his creator
Revelation 12:9.
And the great dragon was cast out,that old serpent called the devil and satan which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John copy cat, after coping from the book of Enoch. The book of revelation is a fraud, this particular verse is a fraud.

how has satan deceived anybody? Give me examples or occasions of which satan deceived. Your Bible's God is the deceiver

thegreatman4ww: @Macof
There was a God b4 the floor that destroy whole nation 4 sins, same God after d floor promised never to do such again. There is God who destroyed sodom witout warning, same God dat warning 'nineveh' tru Jonah but destroy them not. So it was the same God of Old and new testament. Remember we are made in God likeness/character but less in supernatural power.
But on religious believes, practices and doctrines Judaism is more of old testament while Christainity is more of the new testament. That is y it is written in the old testament dat "in those day, I will make a new convenant with house of Israel and no one will tell his neighbor knows God because my laws will written in their hearts" while the new testament says "if there is no fault with the old convenant there will be no need for the new one".
And on hypocracy, being hyprocrat is not a matter of religion but personal decision, exposure&life experience though religion teachg can influence it. U will agree with me dat will find dem all amg all religion

I disagree, I know no hypocrite in my religion

babs123: Somebody just reduced Jehovah to 'a conscious energy'! I pray he reveals Himself to you.
Let's be careful what we say. Its enough you are misled. Don't mislead others. That's a burden you don't want to bear.
He is the 'highest form of conscious energy'. And he created you as what? - the second highest form of conscious energy? Or the lowest form?

Ok God is not conscious energy, he is a big boss giant sitting on a majesty throne in heaven, using words to control the universe. Does this sound like something an intelligent person would believe, you had better gain knowledge

JMAN05: 1. the word of the almighty God said so. not just a jew but Jesus himself.

2. believe in Jesus calls for your observing his word.

3. what did my ancesters do to prevent themselves from dying to show they have power over death, what did they say about how we were made and how we got here? who were the progeny of my ancestors, and what did their ancestor ancestors... till we get one man and woman believe? what did their son son sons say?

4. go as far as getting our ancestor ancestors, down to the 4026 BCE and ask whether they believed in a messiah.

did all ur ancestors serve almighty God? must you do all that your ancestors did?

5. they are already in hell and anyone will remain there if they worship the jews.

6. His main reason for his coming is to die for our sins. he also wants to gather the lost sheep of israel. why? cos ALL NATIONS will bless themselves thru the seed of abraham. and they will become royal priests for the good of all(had it been they obeyed) he preached to a samaritan.

7. because he is the way to life. He conquered death. to get to heaven, you must be born again not worship Jesus.

8. Who said you should worship the Ijews?

9. Cornelus, Timothy and Titus are not jews. remember the Nenivites.

10. He didnt show Himself to the jews, ie Jews didnt see him face to face. Jesus has been existing in heaven. The choice of the jews is a fulfilment of a promise.

11. not jews alone after christ. 1Pet. 2:9

Total crap for dogs to chew on like wild hyenas.

1. You have nothing to prove the genuity of yeshua

2. The Bible is a mere piece of paper written by men

3. You have nothing to say about heaven, I expect an Igbo to give me Igbo views abt heaven, a Yoruba to give me Yoruba views abt not tell me crap and beat around the bush

4. You can't answer my question,but I'll answer urs- yes! All my ancestors served God. And it is better for me as a Yoruba to be a Yoruba than to be a Jew

5. So the Dead Jew didn't save your ancestors, and now all your ancestors are in hell. o da pe o tie je omo Yoruba

6. Abraham has his blessings, I have mean even greater than his, Only Jews and possibly Arabs are seeds of Abraham, am Yoruba and we carry the seed of Oduduwa and all our ancestors.

7. Jesus is a gay who only shows naked men the way

8. Wat is this one saying Some Christians need to go back to school

9. Wats my concern with Romans and local villages like Nineveh you would tell me when the Jews ever made it known that other groups worshipped God

10. He didn't show himself to the Jews, it's the Chinese he showed himself to

11. after Christ Was this not when plan "confuse the world" was taken into action

thegreatman4ww: I think OP is ignorant even most un-enlightened muslims. Judaism (the religion of the Jews based on Old Testaments book called laws of Moses) is different from Christianity (the religion after Jesus Christ life and teachings).
So if u had to criticize Christains quote from their Master Jesus or his Apostles as it is written in the new testaments or the four gospel books.
And if OP is a Muslims why can u reproduce the Sharia laws for I believe they are coin from those verses u quoted (old testaments).

Shuttup mumu.
I opened threads to advice Christians to totally debunk Old testament because it has nothing to do with Yeshua, but you all condemn my thread saying the old testament as and must always be part of christianity because it talks about the same God of Israel. I still had hope for christianity then but I realized that I was wasting my time showing you guys the light of your religion.

Now you try to distinct the Old testament from the New testament, are they not written by Jews?, are they not about the same Jehovah and Yahweh? Or is the NT God different from the OT God?
Pls just stop your hypocrisy.

I can never employ Christians or do partnership with them, so deceitful and hypocritical

GeneralShepherd: Religious mob mentality,who told you Alfa is a muslim

leave the mumu Christian. He doesn't knw alfa is the head of the satanic cult of NL

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]The Gods Bless You.[/quote]And you too, my friend

InvertedHammer: /

No!

God of Israel is not for all.

He helped Israel defeat other nations.

No father will assist one child in fighting his other children.

My own God is Chineke.

Yours could be Allah, Oluwa, Jehovah, Amadioha, Ogun, etc.

/

You are blessed

philfearon: Thats untrue bro....
Once You are not worshipping God through the right Way,you are worshipping the Devil....You may have it mind that u are worshipping God,bt bcus u r nt doing it 2ru the right medium,you are Worshipping Devil...
KNOW THIS:
Apart from God and Jesus Christ,Devil is the Next most powerful being alive...Thats what u fail to understand...THE DEVIL HAS GREAT POWERS.....You can imagine him telling Jesus to Bow before him as just a clue...
You believe u are worshipping God,but it is not through the right way...Thats the Point!!

I cry for you.

May Orunmila bless you with wisdom

Here's my rational and unbiased contribution as a good Yoruba pagan I try to promote knowledge and wisdom.

God is the creator of the entire omniverse(for those who need definition chk ur dictionary).

atheist believe there is no God. Not in the sense that there is no creator force but that there isn't a spirit sitting on a throne talking to humans and sending holy spirits. I for one prefer to have an atheistic state of mind that a Christian or Muslim state of mind(dats for mentality handicapped people).

Now God hasn't been fully understood by men. And so many groups of people have their views.

God is not some kind of big boss giant that sits on a throne like most religions portray him. He is not even a "He" or a "she" God is just God and cannot be restricted to gender, God is the creator of the universe but not as if he just spoke words and the universe appeared, not like he just sends meteors to cause some kind chemical reaction that triggered the creation of earth.

God doesn't have a personified body, like Christians would say he created man in his image, what is the image of God? How many hands does he have, how many legs, does he have a butt? What about sex organs?

God is pure and conscious energy, the ultimate form of all energy, God is the source of all known energy.

God is not in a man figure, no one has seen God, no one has ever, no one can

Everything is energy, energy drives the universe, and contrary to atheistic views, this energy is conscious(at least the ultimate form is).

My religion teaches me that all humans have a large amount of a special kind of energy, deposited in us by God. This special energy is our souls(which has a high level of consciousness).

Now the existence of heaven(a realm full of experience after death) has been questioned, even I question it's existence sometimes. I imagine this energy(our souls) changes form after death.

As a Yoruba I would use Yoruba philosophy and go by the religion of my fore fathers as I have interpreted it.

I believe the ultimate energy(Olodumare/God) forms smaller units of himself to be referred to as gods(The orishas or better the Irunmole). They are now separate entities, but still a distant aspect of God. The gods are appointed to various duties in the control of the universe, and are closer to men than the supreme God, who is somewhere in the omniverse, a place endowed with the glory of pure energy, which religious folks call heaven.

God is the father to everything ever created, because from him the universe is formed.

It is more appropriate to say God formed the universe rather than God created the universe. The universe is formed from God himself, his pure energy evolved over time to form animate objects like planets. The universe is part of God.

I don't know how much you folks understand my post but you should probably read over until you understand perfectly.

Every living thing including humans are also part of God. We might be separate entities with different identities but we are distant aspect of God, a little more distant than the gods.
You see what makes the living different from the non-living things is the soul, take the soul as a special form of energy naturally selected to activate living characteristic when in contact with non-living things, our bodies are nothing more than earthly particles but the soul is the bringer of life to these lifeless particles.
Even atheist can't explain life, they don't know the reason we are different from rocks. It's the natural selection of the already divided units of the ultimate energy, some energies evolve to make rocks, some to make trees, some to make humans.

God is the same and only God, no two Gods, there are gods, who are distant aspects of God, but they are only formed from the pure energy of God.

God is the God of all nations, there might be different views of God, some being totally wrong and stupid(like the Christian view) but most ancient nations have resolved this and decided to worship this creator force.

You should know that God doesn't have a voice, at least it cannot be proven, so claims of the quran and Bible of being the word of God is poo.

No one can boost of hearing God, if atol you hear things in your head, that would just be intuition and instincts which the soul enables the brain to perform.

Brainwashed Christians and muslims(mostly Christians tho) would believe that God is personified, he has human features, sitting on a throne, yelling instructions to man and his angels. This is totally wrong, that is why the claim of yeshua being the only son of God is a dumb statement.


How can the creator of the universe, choose one nation out of thousands and promise an old man that if he worships him without doubt that he would bless him. This sounds more like a Christian demon than an actual God

There's no such thing as God of Israel, or God of china. It's God of the omniverse. He is not biased, discriminative(how can he be discriminative and biased if he created everything).

In conclusion, Christianity, Judaism and Islam is a lie, fraud, a deliberate attempt to control the minds of humans

Btw. I use "God" and "gods" even when I rather not...just to make enough people understand

philfearon: What does Olodumare mean in English?
Thats how i can clarify u...
In Igboland, GOD==>CHUKWU

lmao am so happy u agree dat the pagans worship God, regardless of names in different languages.
God is God.
But a few comments above you claim the pagans don't know God that it's satan we worship.
Why being hypocrite? Why show your core Christian character of hypocrisy? Lmao it's official

CHRISTIANS ARE TWO MOUTHED HYPOCRITES

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Brother Macof. write a book on it and publish it.

Not only will it sell well and earn you income, but it will also further our cause for Igbos to realise that mistakes can be righted. They must abandon foreign bad influence and religion.[/quote]good idea
Cause Africa especially Nigeria must be liberated from the bondage of mental slavery. If only Igbos can be proud of their ancestors

Alfa Seltzer: Judges 1:19

19 The Lord helped the tribe of Judah exterminate the people of the hill country, though they failed in their attempt to conquer the people of the valley, who had iron chariots.

the Christian God fails

philfearon: Abi...
It is not for our own Good to start thinking about it,bcuz no matter how hard u try,u wil end up confusing urself...
Its just like a Car or Cellphone demanding to know how the person that built them came about...{am nt demeaning humans to cars,but its an example}...
All the car holds his owner is to make him happy by delivering according to specifications,and then when nt properly working.the owner will decide whether or nt to service the car,depending on how Good it has served him{although God does much more,cuz his love for Mr A is same for Mr B...it just depends on the manner each approached Him }...

pls can I clarify one thing? what God are you talking about in the bolded? Olodumare?