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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism: If There Is Satan There Must Be God by malvisguy212: 9:03am On Jun 01, 2016
OgundeleT:
"there is magic then there is god"
"opc members was shop and the bullet didn't penetrate then there is devil therefore there is god"
how can you just conclude like that? instead say i don't know how it happen so that others can unravel what you may think is a mystery behind it.
has atheism block your sense of reasoning ? What is the source of this power ? Don't this power prove, their are supernatural and higher power contrary to what atheist claim ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Nature/character Of Temptation. by malvisguy212: 10:18pm On May 31, 2016
PastorAIO:
You are very clear when you talk here. You make a full exposition of the weakness at that point which is HUNGER, a weakness every human feels. Thank you very much.

I now ask you to do the same for the following 2 temptations that were mentioned. Instead of maintaining the same clarity of speech you decide to dance atilogwu instead. What are you afraid of? What are you hiding?
see, you are missing the point, the forty days fasting is the time when jesus has weakness ( hungry) Why dint satan came to Him again after the fasting ? Because that was The ONLY time satan see the weakness, To satan, that was jesus weakness, but Thy Lord's prevail.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Will Embrace Death As An Atheist Any Time! What Is Afterlife? by malvisguy212: 3:46pm On May 31, 2016
HardMirror:
Don't mind the bloody hypocrites. They call muslims all sort of names even insulting the Prophets, but they are worse than infidels
do you want us to win you back into christianity when you've already made up your mind ? If I can recall, one of your thread title was " why I will never be a christian " and the other one was " from pastor to atheist". What does this topics suggest ? It mean you have already made up your mind, Goodluck.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Nature/character Of Temptation. by malvisguy212: 3:40pm On May 31, 2016
PastorAIO:
I don't know what all that is that you're writing. I asked very simple questions. You said Satan tempted Jesus where he spotted weakness. So I asked you what weakness he was attacking when he offered him the Kingdoms. Was it megalomania? If not, just say, 'no it's not' and then tell us what the weakness was.

And also that for jumping off high place. What was the weakness? Was Jesus uncertain of God that he felt a need to test him for confirmation?

If you feel you can't answer these questions that okay too, but in that case just spare me the mentions.
malvisguy212:
For All the days of jesus on earth, the forty days fasting is the weakest point of his ministry, that is a very Good time for the enemy to approach and do all his trick..
Christianity Etc › Re: The Nature/character Of Temptation. by malvisguy212: 12:34am On May 31, 2016
PastorAIO:
And what about the offer to rule all the kingdoms of the world?

Did Satan see a sign of megalomania?

And jumping from the high place?

Did he feel that Jesus needed to test God?
before the temptation occur, what did the first verse say ? "Then Jesus was LED by the SPIRIT into the desert to be tempted by the Devil Matthew 4:1"

The holy spirit led Him into the desert,why ? So that the devil should tempt Him. The motive of the spirit is to prove that The SON IS GOD, Just as the father is God. For All the days of jesus on earth, the forty days fasting is the weakest point of his ministry, that is a very Good time for the enemy to approach and do all his trick.

the first sin in Genesis is related to food, satan say "did God actually say..." Compare in matthew, when he tell jesus " if you are the son of God" (contradict God word). Secondly satan say to eve "you will not surly die" and then compare to what he told jesus " jump of this mountain" (God did not mean what he say) thirdly, satan say to eve "you will be like God" plus what he say to jesus "if you could worship me"

Clearly written, satan is question God's authority and contradicting them, if jesus is who He say He was, and what the father say about Him during the baptism.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Nature/character Of Temptation. by malvisguy212: 9:25pm On May 30, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
When Satan tempted Jesus in Sambisa forest, what weak spots did he sense?
I don't want to response to this post but a dear friend of mine ask me to. the passage clearly say, jesus fasted for forty days, and was hungry just as every human fell hungry, and what was the tempting about ? Turn this stone to bread, the weakness satan see, is because jesus was hungry.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Shepherd Psalm by malvisguy212(op): 9:10am On May 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
Psalm 23 has six verses.It is especially
appreciated by unsaved church people who like to think the Lord is their Shepherd when He's not. Unfortunately, some of the better known portions of Scripture are the portions that deal with anything except salvation. Perhaps the most well known verses of Scripture--or
portions--are the Sermon on the Mount, I Corinthians 13,the Ten Commandments, the Lord's Prayer,
and Psalm 23. Now, the reason why
these are favorites is because nothing
in one of those passages could tell anybody how to be saved. And all
those passages assume the man is either an Old Testament saint or a
New Testament saint. So all unsaved
people like those portions of Scripture
that don't call their sins to their attention.

But since we(born again) are saved, we do know the Lord is our Shepherd, and that He is our personal Shepherd. And I can truthfully say that the Lord is my
shepherd individually.

This is the Shepherd Psalm.Psalm 22 deals with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and resurrection. Psalm 23, then, deals
with the relationship of the Lord Jesus Christ to the individual saint after the resurrection. And Psalm 24 plainly speaks of the Second Advent of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Psalms are laid out in prophetic order: Psalm 22, the crucifixion; Psalm 23, a picture of the Church Age; and Psalm 24, a picture of the Second Advent.

Psalm 23 has a beautiful outline: In
verse 1 we have a happy life. In verse
4 we have a happy death. And in verse 6 we have a happy eternity. In the great Psalm, Psalm 23, we find the Lord is with me, He is beneath me, He is before me, He is around me, He is after me, and He is ahead of me. Psalm 23 is David historically speaking about his relationship with the Lord, and pictures the relationship of the Christian who's got into the right fold.

The Lord is my shepherd" Notice the personal wording. The Lord is not our
shepherd. The Lord is my shepherd.
There's a big difference when you get
to know the Shepherd. "The Lord is
my shepherd.


The Lord is my Shepherd:
That's Relationship!
I shall not want:
That's Supply!
He maketh me to lie down in
green pastures:
That's Rest!
He leadeth me beside the still
waters:
That's Refreshment!
He restoreth my soul:
That's Healing!
He leadeth me in the paths of
righteousness:
That's Guidance!
For His name sake:
That's Purpose!
Yea, though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death:
That's Testing!
I will fear no evil:
That's Protection!
For Thou art with me:
That's Faithfulness!
Thy rod and Thy staff they
comfort me:
That's Discipline!
Thou preparest a table before
me in the presence of mine
enemies:
That's Hope!
Thou annointest my head with
oil:
That's Consecration!
My cup runneth over:
That's Abundance!
Surely goodness and mercy
shall follow me all the days of
my life:
That's Blessing!
And I will dwell in the house of
the Lord:
That's Security!
Forever:
That's Eternity!
Christianity Etc › Re: The End Time Is Imminent Christ Is Almost Here! by malvisguy212: 9:08am On May 30, 2016
winner01:
"Money is the root of all evil huhundecided
What did you say you were before again? Catholic or christian?
lol
So obvious gringrin

Go back and tell bros J that we wont fall for such cheap scam, you can always restrategise grin
this thread is just to mock the christians faith, do not reply them. The op did not ask question, and the bible say a christians should be ready to give answer. Since the op did not ask question, but to mock our belief, do not reply him.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Question, Three Different Answers by malvisguy212(op): 6:41am On May 30, 2016
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Call Me Good? Analyze. by malvisguy212(op): 6:31am On May 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
Jesus christ is a man who was possessed by God Himself, that is why He say "I and the Father are ONE" why dint you quote the rest of John 14?

5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t
know where you are going, so how can
we know the way?”
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the
truth and the life. No one comes to the
Father except through me. 7 If you really
know me, you will know[b] my Father as
well. From now on, you do know him and
have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father
and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me,
Philip, even after I have been among you
such a long time? Anyone who has seen
me has seen the Father. How can you
say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you
believe that I am in the Father, and that
the Father is in me? The words I say to
you I do not speak on my own authority.
Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who
is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I
say that I am in the Father and the
Father is in me; or at least believe on the
evidence of the works themselves. 12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in
me will do the works I have been doing,
and they will do even greater things than
these, because I am going to the Father.
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my
name, so that the Father may be glorified
in the Son. 14 You may ask me for
anything in my name, and I will do it
Christianity Etc › Re: The Tri-unity Of God And The Work Of Salvation. by malvisguy212(op): 6:30am On May 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
The Work of the Triune God in Salvation
1. THE FATHER
He planned our salvation (Rom. 8:28-31).
He sent His Son (1 John 4:9-10).
He gave His Son (John 3:16; Rom.8:32).
2. THE SON
He did the actual WORK of salvation (John
17:4;19:30).
He was the Great Saviour (Titus 2:13-14).
He died to provide salvation (1 Tim. 2:6).
3. THE HOLY SPIRIT
He gives the saved person a NEW LIFE (2 Cor.
3:6).
He gives the saved person a NEW BIRTH (John
3:5; Tit. 3:5).
He garnishes and makes the sinner beautiful by
placing him IN CHRIST (2 Cor. 5:17), and thus He
provides him with the beautiful garments of
redemption, sanctification and justification (1
Cor. 6:11, and see 1 Cor. 1:30).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Difference Between RELIGION And CHRISTIANITY. by malvisguy212(op): 6:30am On May 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
First Corinthians 1:20
(ESV) asks, “Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the
debater of this age? Has not God made
foolish the wisdom of the world?

This thread is not for you, you do not belong to the kingdom of God, Jesus likened people like you as dogs who eat from their master table, this teaching is beyond your knowledge. First
Corinthians 1:28–29 (ESV) goes on:

But God chose what is foolish in the
world to shame the wise; God chose
what is weak in the world to shame
the strong; God chose what is low and
despised in the world, even things
that are not, to bring to nothing
things that are, so that no human
being might boast in the presence of
God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Visiting The Sins Of The Father Upon The Children.. by malvisguy212: 6:15pm On May 29, 2016
johnydon22:
It is an imbecili_c idea punishing someone for the fault of another but sadly this ridiculous idea is being applauded by billions who see themselves as unworthy and broken because a book told them a God is still blaming them for the sins of their alleged ancestors Adam and eve
why are you atheist soo full of hate ? Did you read the passage very well ? by really reading it in more depth, it actually says the opposite. Only the children who "hate God", and sin themselves, are the ones who are punished, only the wicked and ungodly children who are following the wicked example of their fathers are punished. The very next verse (Exodus 20:6) confirms that God shows mercy on the children who love Him and keep his Law. This is in harmony with the teaching, "Each man shall die for his own sins" (2 Chronicles 25:4, Ezekiel 18:4,20).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Nature/character Of Temptation. by malvisguy212: 6:06pm On May 29, 2016
PastorAIO:
Now consider this:

12Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him. 13Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. 15Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.
James chapter 1

So if Jesus is God and God cannot be tempted then what can we say happened to Jesus in the wilderness? I believe that James is right when he says that temptation starts with your own desire. At least that is my experience.
So what is the nature of what happened to Jesus in the wilderness?
There are differences between trial and temptation, both word come from the same greek word, but when this word is use in the bible, the CONTEXT determine the meaning. Temptation comes from the FLESH, trial are sent from God. He allowed Satan to test Job (Job 1:6-12). Therefore when we speak of "trial" we see God's fingerprints; when we see temptation, we see our own the devil's. Temptation attack a WEAK spot, trials are meant for the STRONG spot.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hardmirror's Vision And Advice To Nigerians. by malvisguy212: 10:57am On May 29, 2016
HardMirror:
LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD,
Life is all about survival of the fittest.
The lion preys on weaker animals without mercy or remorse.
Blacks were enslaved because the whites were more advanced in weaponry.

LISTEN TO ME IF YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO BE AT THE TOP.

You will suffer, your children will most likely suffer. You will watch your family die in hunger, you will watch your family trampled and humiliated. You will run for your life, you will come to a sudden realization that you have been a fool, living in comfort and not preparing for war!

We the thinkers have thought ahead and we see a grim future. Men will gnash their teeth and pray for quick death when they are tired of running from death on empty stomach.

It may not be soon, but it is inevitable!

Listen to me!

1. If you are poor, start gathering money NOW!

2.Don't save your money in the banks, save them where only you know.

3. Don't save Naira notes, buy gold. If you can't get gold please save stable currencies such as the dollar. You naira will be useless war comes.

4. Have ready visa. Don't accumulate visas of countries like the UK. They won't take you when the heat comes on. Look for countries that have a low inflow of migrants, but with strong allies with world powers.

5. Start traveling out occasionally to these country. Infact have your children there but maintain property in you place of origin.

6. Join powerful societies (at your discretion, don't ask me for details)

7. Do something meaningful with your life. That will give you friends out side your country.


99% would read this and do nothing.

Do it for yourself, if not, do it for the sake of your children.

Civil servants no matter your rank, will beg for bread when the time comes. The poor generally will suffer terribly. The rich who are only local champions will be the first casualties.

If this does not make sense to you, please just ignore. Continue to live your visionless life, continue to buy cars and compete with your family and neighbors.

I can't give details, but the smart will understand.

Don't relax and think things will always be like this, terrible times will catch you unawares and you will lose all.
Revelation 18 says that all nations will be deceived in the last days. Have you ever
wondered how so many people could become so deceived? Today, the evidence is every were, many people are falling, abandon the faith, I read a sermon on the web, their is this word I come across " if their is no God, what the point in modifying your behavior to keep it within acceptable range?" I know their is God, and very soon ALL your questions will be answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Had A Dream; The World Is About To Hibernate by malvisguy212: 10:43am On May 29, 2016
Op, you are right, this is a sign, many people are having similar dream concerning the end of days. God is showing us a sign so that the believers should not be taking by surprise, remember, the bible say WATCH and be READY, maby God want us to be ready hence the sign.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Part Of The Bible Do We Believe? by malvisguy212: 10:32am On May 29, 2016
hakeem4:
2 chronicles 36 vs 9
“Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign; and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of Jehovah.”
‭‭


2 kings 24 vs 8
“Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign; and he reigned in Jerusalem three months: and his mother’s name was Nehushta the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.”
‭‭
Jehoachin's father, Madehim, became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!
Christianity Etc › Re: Here's Why I Have Decided To Stop Being A Christian by malvisguy212: 10:25am On May 29, 2016
MisterGrace:
But I thought all Christians are supposed to be Christ-like. Why then are almost all his followers not on that track?
because you cannot force people to obey God's word. Its a choice. No matter how hard I try, I cannot force you to love me, God want, that the choice you made, let it come from your heart.
Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Men, Seekers And Others, I Need Your Opinion On This. by malvisguy212: 9:42am On May 27, 2016
LoJ:
Hello Malvisguy212,

Thank you for your message. You are entitled to your opinions about me. Of course every religious man believes he serves the "only true god", and all others are demons.

Again, I thank you for the time taking. I wish you all that is noblest.
God is bigger than religion. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Men, Seekers And Others, I Need Your Opinion On This. by malvisguy212: 8:57am On May 27, 2016
LoJ:
Hello my Brother,

it is my pleasure to read from you. It is truly better to have you around rather than far. I would have loved to contribute more on the topic of energy conservation which seems rather promising. But I don't have the expertise to.

I am pleased to read your posts. Have a nice day.
when you meditate, on whose authority did you do that ? Do you know the gods you pray to ? Cause when the true God revel himself to you, He don't cause confusion like this (one side love and the other side pain?) Am a christian, NO one in the bible ever encounter such spirit. The first time I encounter a spirit, he welcome me with great love and ask me to come close, but I refuse, that is were his true identity was reveal, a demon.
Islam › Re: Antidote For Islamophobia, 'ISLAMOPHOBIN' by malvisguy212: 8:08am On May 27, 2016
In Islam, it is not how one lives that guarantees salvation, but how one dies. To die while fighting the infidels in the cause of Allah is the only sure way for Muslims to be assured of a place in Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment. Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs in return is the garden of Paradise: they fight in H is cause, and slay and are slain. (Yusuf Ali) Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT. Surah 17:33 is an important verse for suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means. Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam. THE BARGAIN OF Allah It may surprise many to learn that all Muslims, including Muhammad will descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam. Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .” THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71. However, there is a way for Muslims to bypass “Hell” and head straight into Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with Muslims to show how this is possible. Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive your utmost in the Cause of Allah , with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another favour will He bestow, which ye do love, – help from Allah and a speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali) The above Qur’anic verses were written in the historical context of the Battle of Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah. Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are motivated by this murderous bargain of Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place in Paradise for cold blooded killers. Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are all good things: and it is they who will prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)
Islam › Re: Antidote For Islamophobia, 'ISLAMOPHOBIN' by malvisguy212: 8:05am On May 27, 2016
parisbookaddict:
u will be surprised how this satire will backfire on cair and muslims..cair should be ashamed..an organization with high ranking members charged to court for financially supporting terrorists
The best antidote, cair should modified the quran and remove All the verses that encourage terrorism including muhammed sexual life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 10:34am On May 25, 2016
johnydon22:
what do you think a religion is? A religion is a cult that has gone public


Now let me provide for you where the bible discourages doubt, scepticism expressly to uphold blind faith.

James 1:6
But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who
doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind.
I am very busy, I will quote this post later.
johnydon22:
Express lunacy of professed faith.
you do realize that your love ones belive in God, don't insult people who believe in God. This is what you complain about in your first post.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 10:21am On May 25, 2016
johnydon22:
It is remarkably ironic the same person who believes the bible by "Faith" is using the bible as a hallmark to determine biblical sceptic positions.

If you lot ever employed scepticism independently outside your faith none of you would still hold such simpleton-like ridiculous beliefs.

I am sure you have learnt a vital lesson here: there is nothing as Evidential faith. Such a thing doesn't exist.
secret cult discourage its member from asking question, many religious book does so. But the bible challenge every christian to search for the truth. In john 5:39 the bible say search the scripture, and in the book of isaiah God is calling mankind to come let us reason together.
Pyrrho:
Yea, Yea...
I can name mine. God has been bad to me. I am dead a long time ago, by his hate I am dead.
Msteeewwwww
REMAIN DEAD. Bye
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 10:12am On May 25, 2016
Pyrrho:
Stop being a childish.

What has your faith accomplished?
sooo many things, I cannot named it. God has been Good to me. I would've been dead long time ago, by His Grace am alive.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith,belief,reason And Truth. by malvisguy212(op): 10:01am On May 25, 2016
malvisguy212:
Justification is the concept that provides
our belief with the assuredness of its
truth. People believe things for reasons,
which provide the warrant for their belief.Without these reasons,you do not have knowledge of what you believe. If a belief is JUSTIFIED, then we have the right to believe it. Atheists got it wrong, there view was; " since you cannot know something with 100% certainty, you cannot obtain the truth (or knowledge), you just have to believe ,God did it". The bible say otherwise, in Isaiah 1:18 God is calling human to "come and let us REASON together"

This brief journey into obtaining knowledge of what you belief was done in order to show the relationship between FAITH,BELIEF AND TRUTH . Christianity requires faith, faith requires
belief, and belief requires TRUTH.This is not just a mere belief but rather a trust that is characterized as knowledge.


Notice how Paul incorporates all three of these elements in his letter to the
Romans, “if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). You cannot "confess with your mouth" without knowing the truth.

No matter how hard I try, I cannot make myself believe that there is a pink elephant in the room right now. I do not have direct free will over my beliefs, i.e. I can’t make myself believe something. I also cannot just tell people what to believe or exhort them to believe it. But if I don’t have free will over my beliefs, how can the Bible hold me responsible for them? The answer lies in the fact that I do have responsibility as to where I choose to focus my mind. I have free choice in body movements and where to place my attention (what you choose to think about). I have to choose to be preoccupied with something to change my belief or increase my certainty in that belief .Faith in the biblical sense means trust or confidence, confident in what we know to be TRUE. You do not have to be 100% certain in a belief for it to count as knowledge.

The bible say faith alone cannot save , why? because what you have faith in
must be TRUE, Biblical faith is accurate knowledge combined with ACTIVE TRUST Faith and knowledge are not opposed to each other. So Trusting faith alone does NOT save, but instead what is trusted MUST be true.

The faith Jesus had was not an absence of knowledge, but was based upon an intimate knowledge of his Father. We too can gain knowledge to make our faith richer.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 9:58am On May 25, 2016
johnydon22:
But yet they are no objective evidences for your beliefs that is why you all still need faith.

You lot do not look for evidences to confirm your beliefs because the so called "evidences" are also upside down claims held unto by "faith". You only look for things to twist and lay even more claims of faith and say they are evidences.

You lot do not examine your beliefs cus if you did you wouldn't even hold them, scepticism is seen as a threat in Christianity if you lot had your ways you'd do anything to silence the mouths of sceptics and freethinkers of which i am one of..

I cannot begin to lay out the many angry mails i have received and still receive from angry christians who see my scepticism as a threat to their beliefs, the frustrated insults we get here on NL.

Scepticism is not encouraged in Christianity please stop the lies, that is why Children are discouraged from questioning their beliefs, bible or alleged words of God or they risk hell.

I asked a bus preacher a question yesterday and got "God works in mysterious ways" how does that encourage scepticism?

In fact you lot can do anything to do away with scepticism which is a flogging rod that has kept the Christian faith in moderation and is the gallow on which Faith is being murdered in this millennium of fast dwindling faith(s).
liar,skepticism a threat to christian faith ? Then why does the bible encourage christians to ASK questions ? John the baptist doubt at some point, did jesus condemn him ? Jeremiah doubt at some point, did God condemn him ? See, christians don't fight those who question their faith, ask an unbias atheist, they will tell you its true. Its is islam that does that.

If skepticism is not encouraging to christians faith, why does the bible encourage it ? Narrow is the way that lead to eternal life, FEW will go in their says the BIBLE, what does it imply ? God don't want large congregation, God want men with GENUINE FAITH, you speak like this because your faith is POOR, why does the bible say Faith ALONE cannot save ? Because God don't want us to ignorantly believe everything we hear without proof. The bible even encourage us to test every spirit. So All what you type in the op does NOT make sense.
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 8:21am On May 25, 2016
johnydon22:
It baffles me how you guys manage to jam two opposite words into one and still do so with a straight face.

I am wowed at how someone can jam "Faith" and "evidence" into one with a straight face, that is totally ridiculous like saying a water is both extremely hot and icy-cold at the same time.

either this is a severe case of ignorance on what is "Faith and evidence" are or plain ol cognitive dissonance and laziness or as usual intellectual dishonesty.

Faith and evidence are incompatible.

where there is Evidence there is no faith and none needed cus there is certainty..

Faith is only needed when there is no evidence.

the two never mixes and cannot mix cus they are blatantly opposites. .
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO EXAMINE THEIR
BELIEF>>>>1 Thessalonians
5:19-21 Do not quench the Spirit; do not
despise prophetic utterances. But EXAMINE
everything carefully; hold fast to that which
is good… God wants us to know what we believe and why we believe it. We’re not called to numbly trust everything that might be
taught in our world today.Skepticism is important to the Christian faith; skepticism causes us to examine what we believe and search for the evidence that confirms our beliefs
Christianity Etc › Re: Faith (Virtue Or Foe?) by malvisguy212: 10:08pm On May 24, 2016
The Christian life is more than a life of blind trust. It is a life of rational examination that challenges each of us to evaluate the evidence, form a conclusion and then share that conclusion with the world around us. Let’s examine the Biblical model of evidential faith:
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO USE THEIR
MIND>>>>"You shall love the Lord your God
with all your heart, and with all your soul, and
with all your mind. This is the great and
foremost commandment." ( Matthew 22:37-38)

When we examine our world and the
evidence for the existence of God, we are
worshipping God with our mind.it's either we
love God with our mind or reject him, it's a
choice.
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO UNDERSTAND
EVIDENCE>>>>Acts 17:31
31 because He has fixed a day in which
He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished PROOF to all men by raising Him from the dead.”
The Greek word used for "proof" in Acts
17:31 is "pistis". The word is derived
from "peitho" which is a Greek verb that
means "to convince by argument" that
something is either true or false.
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO EXAMINE THEIR
BELIEF>>>>1 Thessalonians
5:19-21 Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But EXAMINE everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good…
God wants us to know what we believe
and why we believe it. We’re not called to
numbly trust everything that might be taught in
our world today.Skepticism is important to the
Christian faith; skepticism causes us to examine what we believe and search for the
evidence that confirms our beliefs. God honors this kind of skepticism because He knows that it leads to a deeper faith in Him. There is a place for skepticism in the life of the Christian because it causes us to "examine the Scriptures daily".
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO BE CONVINCED OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE>>>>2 Timothy 3:14
14 You, however, continue in the things you
have learned and become CONVINCED of,
knowing from whom you have learned them.

Conviction is the result of certainty, and certainty is the result of evidential confidence. We are called to be convinced by mastering the evidence that supports what we believe. The Christians life is not one of "wishful
thinking" or "hope in the unreasonable". It is a
life of certainty, grounded in the evidence.
CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO BE CASE
MAKER>>>>1 Peter 3:15
15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;
Once we have examined the evidence and have come to the conclusion that Christianity is true, we are called to be ready to make a strong defense for what we believe.
IN CONCLUSION;
Christians can be "case makers" precisely
because the Christian faith is an evidential faith. When we, as Christians, argue for the truth of the Christian Worldview, we are not sharing an opinion. There either is a God, or there is not. Jesus is that God, or He is not.
Salvation comes through Christ alone (as Jesus
Himself maintained), or it does not. This is not a matter of opinion, personal preference or
wishful thinking. The Christian faith is grounded in evidence that can be assessed and evaluated. The Christian faith is an evidential faith.
https://www.nairaland.com/2148108/christian-faith-based-upon-evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: Enough Of This Pentecostal Scam by malvisguy212: 7:08am On May 22, 2016
onetrack:
I have already rejected Christ. Let the Christians (or Muslims) prove what they claim. Don't quote the Bible at me, I know what it says.
rejecting christ is your choice....trust me,you don't understand the bible. Truth contradict you.
Islam › Re: Why Atheists Will Not Have Problem Becoming Muslims by malvisguy212: 9:47pm On May 19, 2016
truthman2012:
Hello bro. Quite a few days.
yea, been busy. Am back now. God bless you.
Islam › Re: Why Atheists Will Not Have Problem Becoming Muslims by malvisguy212: 9:46pm On May 19, 2016
truthman2012:
Hello bro. Quite a few days.
yea, been busy. Am back now. God bless you.

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