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Empiree:
Alhamdulillah, all is well brother. Hope you enjoyed your holiday?

I had a wonderful Christmas, thank you.

IAmStrange:
can u kindly reply me with it again? I didn't get it

so you want me to do everything for you ? but you know how to copy and paste ? check your mentioned bro. your first post before you modified it.

Empiree:
you are still CHRISTIAN?. I thought you embraced Islam in Finland?.

Some of your pastors said Xmas is pagan festival

hey bro, how you , long time. trust all is well ?

IAmStrange:
oga swear to God that you read KJV and you didn't find all those verses there...

the contradiction did not exist when you Read the context. if you claimed there is contradiction, than reply my post before you modified it. don't you think so ?

IAmStrange:
Oh! You want to talk about confusion?

Lemme show you just a little: Check KJV

How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I
Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with
how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule
over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of
Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 )
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:8 )
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

Deal with that first. If you want more, I'll show you more.

Christianity always wins... yen yen yen

Modified:

Even more

When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant
to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or
after?
After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell
Noah to take into the Ark?
Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last
instruction only two pairs went into the ark
(Genesis 7:8-9)

11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how
many horsemen did he capture?
One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel
8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha,
King of Israel die?
Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles
16:1)

14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for
the work of building the temple?
Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

15. Solomon built a facility containing how many
baths?
Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the
Babylonian captivity, how many were the children
of Pahrath-Moab?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra
2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen
(Nehemiah 7:11)

17. How many were the children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

achu42 tecnolad ImmaculateJOE and everyone saying they can't find it.

Go and check King James Version... as in the original king James you'll see it there

Was it not ur Christians doctors that revised the bible after seeing all these and decided to change it in your new bibles so as to deceive you masses?

Go and check KJV and I even posted more for you

why didn't you tag me as you modified this post ? if you understand what you copy and paste you should've response to my early post.

all this contradiction did not exist. come in here let continued https://www.nairaland.com/2381817/contradictions-analyzed-bible-quran

help your Muslims brothers here if you can.

IAmStrange:
Oh! You want to talk about confusion?

Lemme show you just a little:

How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I
Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with
how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule
over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of
Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8 )
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:8 )
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

Deal with that first. If you want more, I'll show you more.

Christianity always wins... yen yen yen

1. The first list has restrictions on younger men for military campaigns. The second list includes every able bodied individual, in the case of a defense or war
against Jerusalem. Or perhaps it's due to the unofficial and incomplete nature of the census (1 Chronicles 27:23-24)..

2. The Septuagint accurately states three years for both verses.

3 Ahaziah was anointed at the age of 22 as the next king and assumed the throne and actual rulership at age 42.

4. Jehoachin's father, Madehim,became an unofficial co-ruler at the age of eight to train him! This was followed with Jehoachin becoming officially the king at his father's death at 18 years of age!

5. jehoachin rule Two different times.

cc IAmStrange

emmy512:
YOUR INFORMATION IS OUTDATED AS REGARDS TINAPA.
ITS AN ABANDONED PLACE. NO ONE DOES ANYTHING CONCERNING CHRISTMAS THERE.
THERE ARE NO MALLS AS YOU SAID EXISTING. THE PLACE NOW LOOKS LIKE THE SET OF THE WALKING DEAD OR OTHER SCARY ABANDONED PLACES. SINCE DONALD DUKE LEFT OFFICE WE'VE NOT HAD A TINAPA .
EVEN ARCADE CENTRE NO LONGER EXISTING. YOU CAN ONLY GO THERE TO SIT QUIETLY AND MAKE OUT WITH YOUR BABE WITHOUT TOO MUCH EYES ON YOU.

Even Gamji park in Kaduna is outdated, Hausa guys turn there to joint of weed smokers and drugs.

emmy512:
YOUR INFORMATION IS OUTDATED AS REGARDS TINAPA.
ITS AN ABANDONED PLACE. NO ONE DOES ANYTHING CONCERNING CHRISTMAS THERE.
THERE ARE NO MALLS AS YOU SAID EXISTING. THE PLACE NOW LOOKS LIKE THE SET OF THE WALKING DEAD OR OTHER SCARY ABANDONED PLACES. SINCE DONALD DUKE LEFT OFFICE WE'VE NOT HAD A TINAPA .
EVEN ARCADE CENTRE NO LONGER EXISTING. YOU CAN ONLY GO THERE TO SIT QUIETLY AND MAKE OUT WITH YOUR BABE WITHOUT TOO MUCH EYES ON YOU.

Even Gamji park is outdated, Hausa guys turn there to joint of weed smokers and drugs.

Jewessgratitude:
Oh... Ok. Ok tot it was a pics you took with another girl.

My advice, it you dont find joy in the relationship, end it.

may be that's not the only picture she see, the op just notice the picture she see at that moment was his

everything is demonic, Satan is gaining ground, everything God created is now demonic. op I wept for you.

^^^
Mary was a member of the house of David. But unlike Joseph, she came from David’s son, Nathan, not Solomon. Mary was a member of the house of David apart from Jeconiah. Since Jesus was Mary’s son, he too was a member of the house of David, apart from Jeconiah.

Leonardemma1:
well mary should be in a better position to answer that. note- Jesus never called himself the son of God

did you know why I ask you this question about the biological father of JESUS ? if Jesus were really Joseph’s son by blood, he could not claim to sit on David’s throne because of the Jeconiah curse; but
Jesus was not Joseph’s son, for he was born of the virgin Mary. when Matthew present his genealogy ,he had the jeconiah curse in mind. according to Matthew Joseph had the jeconiah blood in His vain. Matthew could've used Mary who have a direct lineage through Ruth ,Bathsheba and Nathan (David wife) . but since Matthew is tracing the Royal line, he opted for Solomon because Solomon is the hair to David throne.

Leonardemma1:
clearly u didn't read my post. except ure trying to say ure more familiar with Jewish laws than the Jews themselves

who was the father of JESUS ? note: your argument only stand if you deny the deity of Jesus.

Leonardemma1:
Please can u name any adopted son that became a king in the bible?

every son required a father, and both Matthew and Luke use the word "SON" in referring to JESUS, so who was HIS father ? I put it to you 1) that Jesus was actually the Son of God and
the natural heir to the Kingdom by miraculous birth through the virgin girl Mary, of David’s line, and (2) that Jesus was also the legal heir in the male line of descent from David and Solomon through his adoptive father Joseph .

sonmvayina:
Was Joseph a king?.. Messiah means anointed King..

very funny question

Leonardemma1:
an adopted* son cannot and will never be an heir to any throne

Matthew argument was that the fact that the Jews never used women as direct genealogical link and the way the Bible use the word "son" and father.

People who were adopted were considered "sons", and their "seed" throughout history. Even today, when people are adopted, they are considered part of the blood line in family trees, and take the family name, and inherit family fortunes as if they were the "seed".

Matthew 1:23, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a SON"

The writers of the New Testament understood that in order to be a "son", one need not be a physical descendant. This is proof..

Leonardemma1:
Oga read it very well... ure d one confusing urself. its no longer news that the bible is filled with contradictions

Matthew trace His legal line, by the virtue of the marriage, it establishes His claim and right to the throne of David. Matthew wanted to show Jesus’ legal right to the throne of David. Therefore his genealogy begins with Abraham and goes through David and his son Solomon to Jesus’ legal father, Joseph.

Matthew 1:16
Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, OF WHOM was born Jesus, who is called Christ."

Notice that he does not say ‘Joseph begat Jesus’ but that he was "the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born."

If there was any accusation made by hostile Jews that Jesus’ birth was illegitimate, the fact that Joseph was aware of the circumstances, married Mary and gave her the protection of his good name and royal lineage
refutes such slander.

HAPPY CHRISTMAS

malvisguy212:
There are many people who seems to disagree with the celebration of Christmas. Jehovah's Witnesses, teach that it is a sin to observe Christmas at all. Is it a sin to celebrate Jesus' birthday?.
Yes, Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible. There is NO command for believers to observe or celebrate Jesus' birthday. It is a matter of PERSONAL CHOICE . I think it is acceptable to observe Christmas; or not to observe Christmas. I think it is not a sin to celebrate Christmas to a degree, anymore than it would be sinful to celebrate the birthday of a family member. I think it is appropriate to celebrate the Lord's birthday for those who choose to do so.

This lead us to many questions such as :
Jesus was not born in December? What about the pagan origin? Santa clause, e.t.c
First, a person who was born on February 29 (leap year) only celebrate his birthday after 4 years, is it sinful to chose another day to celebrate it ? I personally do not think so. Likewise, I see no harm in celebrating Jesus' birthday on December 25th,even if His actual birthday rests in a different month and date.I think it is a wonderful thing to celebrate the birth of the Savior, God's gift to mankind.

Doesn't Christmas has pagan origin ? So does the names of the week, if your birthday fall in Saturday (Saturn) will you celebrate it as a devoted christian because Saturn is one of the pagan gods? The truth is that Christians today celebrate the holiday in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MANNER. There are many wonderful Gospel hymns which have been written to worship Jesus at Christmas time; such as, Silent Night, Hark The Herald Angels Sing, Oh Little Town Of Bethlehem, Joy To The World. I think it would be a mistake to overlook Christmas entirely, and miss out on the opportunity to witness to the lost during the emotional Christmas season. Many hearts have been turned to the Lord during the Christmas holiday , is it sinful to present track to the lost ?No evidence exists that the Christian leaders who began this practice consciously wanted to compromise with paganism.

In conclusion, there are two ways in celebrating Christmas;
Conclusion
1. The Worldly Way :
Santa Claus, the north pole, elves, , secular songs about Christmas, booze, parties, Rock music,et cetera.
2. The Christian Way:
Jesus Christ, Christmas carols, soulwinning, a nativity scene, helping the poor in Jesus' name, et cetera.

Romans 14:5-6
One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. LET EACH MAN BE FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND . HE WHO OBSERVES THE DAY OBSERVES IT FOR THE LORD , and he who eats, does so for the Lord, FOR HE GIVES THANKS TO GOD ; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and GIVES THANKS TO GOD .

HAPPY CHRISTMAS.

HAPPY CHRISTMAS

tstx:
You obviously lack common sense. Ciao

my brother, I did not insult you, or are you embarrassed to be associated with villagers ? if you feel insulted to be associated with villagers, I am very sorry .

NaijaOlosho:
Xmas is useless

Is not in the bible

Jesus didn't ask any one to celebrate his born day.


The only thing we all owe God is to keep his commandments and love our neighbors as our selves.

Simple.

Easter, Xmas are all useless and invented by men

if you are born on a leap year, is it bad to chose any day to celebrate your birthday ? so it is Useless to celebrate your birthday ?

tstx:
Because your colonizers said so?

why not used your village accents to post rather than to used the said colonizer to post ?

there is more work to be done than merriment .

khia:
If I celebrated my birthday and it fell on the Sabbath I would celebrate it on the Sabbath. If you observe God's day on Sunday (the day to worship the Sun for pagans) and not on the Sabbath (the 7th day) you are not honoring *Yahushua, The Most High.*

well miss khia. my Bible tell me to honour Him every day cause He is the maker of everything, the pagan deity cannot limit His worship. if you chose not to celebrate Christmas, its not a sin provided you honour Him everyday .

khia:
Fairy tales.

a person who was born on February 29 (leap year) only celebrate his birthday after 4 years, is it sinful to chose another day to
celebrate it ?

and the pagan origins ? So does the names of the week, if your birthday fall in Saturday (Saturn) will you celebrate it as a devoted christian because Saturn is one of the pagan gods?

Romans 14:5-6
One man regards one day above another, another
regards every day alike. LET EACH MAN BE
FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND . HE WHO
OBSERVES THE DAY OBSERVES IT FOR THE
LORD , and he who eats, does so for the Lord,
FOR HE GIVES THANKS TO GOD ; and he who
eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and
GIVES THANKS TO GOD

czarina:
She's a Muslim, not looking to keep the man all to herself. She's ready to share.

Islamic teaching is very canal. what is adultery ? do adultery exist in islam ?

Stakeholders:
Your life will be sorrowful for lying about Quran, mind my word in the coming year you will see the consequence of what you do

let continued the conversation here https://www.nairaland.com/4249853/did-allah-curse-muhammad

jumper524:
Even [s]
.

Note: islam gives room for questioning its imams if his teaching is going against the doctrine don't know of Christianity..

surah 5:10 say O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plainto you, may cause you to lose your faith.

what question can a Muslim ask that may causes him or her to lose their faith ?

Rashduct4luv you just provide the hadith', I am expecting to read a Qur'anic verse.

The hadith was clearly understood , muhammed wanted to write a documents that will guide the muslims not to go astray, he died with this revelation.

Rashduct4luv:
Do you need a verse to show you that revelation has ended or you'll get the verse yourself?

alright . do it , provide the verse.

Rashduct4luv:
It says nothing about the Qur'an because the Qur'an was already completed before he died.
.
Look for another excuse.

the hadith made it clear that Muhammad died with a Revelation, he wanted to say something but didn't say it until he died, and he made it clear that what he want to say will not make them go astray.

Rashduct4luv:
Compound liar! Quote the hadith in full! Who is the one narrating the hadith?

I don't expect you to accept it. how about this :

Sahih Muslim Book 13: 4016Ibn
Abbas reported: When Allah’s
Messenger (may peace be upon him)
was about to leave this world, there
were persons (around him) in his
house, ‘Umar b. al-Kbattab being one
of them. Allah’s Apostle (may peace
be upon him) said: Come, I MAY WRITE FOR
YOU A DOCUMENTS ; YOU WOULD NOT GO
ASTRAY AFTER THAT. Thereupon Umar said:
Verily Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon
him) is deeply
afflicted with pain. You have the
Qur’an with you. The Book of Allah is
sufficient for us. Those who were
present in the house differed. Some
of them said: Bring him (the writing
material) so that Allah’s Messenger
(may peace be upon him) may write a
document for you and you would
NEVER GO ASTRAY after him And some
among them said what ‘Umar had
(already) said. When they indulged in
nonsense and began to dispute in the
presence of Allah’s Messenger (may
peace be upon him), he said: Get up
(and go away) ‘Ubaidullah said: Ibn
Abbas used to say: THERE WAS A
HEAVY LOSS, INDEED A HEAVY LOSS,
that, due to their dispute and noise.
Allah’s Messenger (may peace be
upon him) COULD NOT WRITE (OR DICTATE)
THE DOCUMENTS FOR THEM.

These Hadiths state one thing clearly, which is that Mohammed died with a revelation which he wanted to speak out but could not/did not. He wanted to give the
Muslims something of importance which will keep them on the right path. But he could not write it because of the commotion around him.This revelation remains unspoken and unwritten and went to the grave with Mohammed. What does this say about the Quran?