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TonyeBarcanista:
Na wa for Deji o

"come let's reason together"....

omenkaLives:

drss2: :
wat zombies n buari dullard's propaganda machinery ar trying to tell nijeriyans is dat GEJ, a former president authorized dollars minted in 2016 for NIA in 2014 for use in 2015-2019 elections. is GEJ a magician only a magician can pull dat stunt except d dullard is not even in control ova his own govt.
one will begin to wonder how freshly staked dollar currencies minted in 2016 finds its way into osbone towers right under buari's nose in 2017.
well, den if GEJ a former president can control an agency like National Intelligence Agency (NIA is senior brother to DSS) dat is under d DIRECT CONTROL of d president, who is d current president of nijeriya

word of advice for zombies, d more they try to spin d real story about $50 million ikoyi loot, d more they make buari dullard look more GROSSLY incompetent.

ikoyi $50 million loot (monies shipped into ikoyi towers btw 2016 n 2017) is a hatched job comprising top members of buari's govt. later they will be shouting tsa.
ar security agencies no longer under d much propagandized tsa regime of buari dullard

How wailers lie to themselves and believe the same lies as gospel truth beats me. Y'all been going on and on about the notes minted in 2016 without doing yourselves the courtesy of showing proof they were indeed minted in that year.

Una no get small shame at all.

That they are shameless is a forgone conclusion. It is their near non-existence of intelligence that is "jaw-dropping"

ikeadewole:
Was tinubu,Ameachi,fashola, not in PDP..Tell me one APC member who was not in PDP..

..... symptoms of Psychosis

buygala:
"*When I say Nigerian vehicle, I don’t necessarily mean the whole thing*, but a vehicle designed specifically for the Nigerian populace. A vehicle in tune with the history, culture, environment and economic structure of the people "


Please can somebody help me explain this in simple terms....because I can't even see the sense in the above quote

"A vehicle in tune with the history, culture"........what the fvck is that supposed to mean?

Then excuse yourself from the topic or stand by the sideline becos it seem you're not intellectually competent to process his drift

SalamRushdie:
Fake polls every where ...We all gave him a breather because of his health but it doesn't mean he has improved , his sickness slowed him down from taking more bad decision dats all

If you want us to agree with you that NOI polls is fake, we may do so becos it is owned by madam "puff-puff" Ngozi Okonjo Iweala (hence the NOI-Polls). I am not too sold on them as they seem to be a PDP-aligned polling outfit......but if they did this poll and came out with this result, then it is interesting. I will imagine they must have altered the results a little so as to "reduce" the embarrassment as PMB's true rating is more than 55%.

Meanwhile, all PDP's online polls ends up embarrassing them....

Pchidexy:
Did you notice? Only one Igbo name. Yorubas and Hausas have stolen this country blind. No wonder, they re enjoying this sham of a country.

Typical crass bigot! We tot Igbos own all the property in VI and Banana Island........

papparatzzi2013:
That money is PDP's property.

Wike Fayose and FFK ran to the press with the Amaechi story to save face for the corrupt party.

Who noticed how the money was discovered on Wednesday and Jonathan Ex-CSO died on Thursday due to heart attack?

As for me, that is not circumstantial in any way.

I am just waiting for the wrap up of this case before I come up with my "conjectures", some of which you've stated up here

Igbo Goat? What does that mean? You mean "tribe" don reach animal level?

GoodMuyis:
As in 50, AM afraid we may not be able to afford the budget couple with economy situation. By the way we are not at war just fighing terrorist

....not at once, but I imaging we should be purchasing like 5 every year......along the line we will have either technology transfer or reverse engineering to make/assemble/combine our own like India, China, Pakistan etc

GoodMuyis:
We should be talking about the effectiveness of our military upgrade not tribal comment
This Gunship is powerful is think, NAF should have it up to eight



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAMHp_ZGX9Y

Eight? or Fifty for starters..... if we vote so much into military budget, we better spend them to truly update our arsenal

vantage001:
na MI-35 dem dey jubilate for like this?
What will they now do when they finally get a sukhoi or an s300?

...the same jubilations

ironheart:
i think you are 80years old. Your not a nigerian youth to reason the way you do. Cos i wonder how some of our youths are so gullible. You have asked the right questions. One big origin for you

80? I just left the "Youth" bracket. Thanks bro

These young ones are misusing their God given brains and some of us need to help reset them

ISTANDWITHBUHAR:

TonyeBarcanista: :
No surprise say na Magu De plant them the money in conjunction with his friends in CBN and Minting agency.

Then why is your Lord Wike claiming ownership then?

another angle he conveniently omitted. This shows his "reasoning together"is not together

genearts:

TonyeBarcanista: :
Can you objectively state how this write-up is "poo"?

1. how can you suggest that efcc should frame innocent individuals for something they know nothing about? are you being sarcastic or what?
2. i am suprised and dissappointed that you also joined the confused morons in pdp (who in one breath will say that efcc planted the discovered money while also accusing amaechi of owning the money) to insinuate that efcc planted the said money without any shred of credible evidence other than conjectures and innuendoes

In addition, his conjectures are not even logically and intelligently enumerated. The angle of NIA came from NIA and not EFCC. Why the attempt to absolve NIA, whom it was reported came forward themselves to lay claim to the money? Even the EFCC are to-date following a laid down procedure of first securing the money through the interim forfeiture order by the courts while investigations are still going on to ascertain the "ownership" of the money.

It is outright irresponsibility on Tonye's part (with your level of intelligence) to descend to the gutter to castigate EFCC. One would have expected that the bigger concern is that almost $50m is out there in an unsecured location, the CBN has no record of it, neither is any security agency

TonyeBarcanista:
LET US REASON TOGETHER
Is it possible that an Intelligence agency like NIA with security personnel attached to the agency will not put armed to the teeth  security guards around the apartment to guard it against invasion? Are they saying that the SEVEN policemen from the EFCC that invaded the apartment will disarm and overpower these security guards? Are they saying that the DG will tell his men to willingly surrender to EFCC operative even when the agency cross into their territory? Is EFCC, an agency under the Ministry of Justice now superior to NIA,  an intelligence agency under the office of the National Security Adviser (just like DSS)? Can EFCC invade the territory of DSS? 

How did EFCC get the key to the safe? Is EFCC saying such an apartment housing such a large amount will have no guard watching over it?  Not even a "maiguard"? How do we explain the trend of discovering money without clue to who owns or watches the money?  Who will keep a whopping N49 million,  N448 million and $50 million without a watchman or even a spy? 


 

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"Let's reason together" you say, but unfortunately what you put up here is not "reasoning" but the same old regurgitated excuses your ilks had put up that beggars logic

1. The news had it that NIA came forward to claim the money, that it was approved for covert operations under GEJ. How is that missing from your acclaimed "reasoning"
2. That the place was left unguarded should have made any sensible person to question NIA. In deed if the money were for covert operations, why was the place unguarded by the NIA?
3. Your "reasoning" should have also addressed the angle of GEJ's name coming into the mix, yet almost a week after, GEJ or his media team had not made a statement either to accept responsibility or deny it
4. Your reasoning has not addressed an supposition that if it were for covert operations, how come a new government 2yrs into his tenure is unaware of the history the covert operations, where the money was kept and to what use it was for

Your attempt to swing this through ridiculous clamour to "reason together" is in itself a dumb move

jconsulting:
The only luck Lagos State is enjoying is that PDP never had a chance to loot their development and share it in Ghana must go, thanks to Tinubu

absolute truism!!!!!

mabelly:
If I were you I would prefer an above average leadership with a moderate fund.

Because no amount of resources can out play the human resources. Give a billion to a dullered and see it squandered. In economics, the most valuable resources is the human.

I mostly pity delta, rivers, and most oil producing States, they've not been blessed with good leaders even with all the resources at their disposal.

A a classic example is GEJ

Afam4eva:
It's actually a balance of both. Take Ambode to Ekiti and see if he will make any difference. That's why i think the money that lagos has both through monthly allocation and IGR is soo much that they can embark on projects that other states won't dare.

The only reason Ambode will not make a difference in Ekiti is if the people (as they have shown penchant for "longer throat" refuse development. But that aside, take Amobode to Ekiti and he will transform phenomenally. Why? Because Ambode unlike Fayose will come out with a concrete plans of how he will develop Ekiti, not the deception from a useless governor that has no plans for Ekiti and just moves around with sensless show of shame in the market place

Can we all see the wisdom in EFCC not mentioning the names of the owner yet until they can substantially verify? Many people went ballistic on social media castigating the EFCC for not mentioning names. Would it not have been more embarrassing to mention names and come out utterly wrong?

People forget that there is a procedure in investigation and it cannot not be breached just to satisfy the curiosity of the uninformed people

doctokwus:
They shud apologize to that woman profusely and even visit her personally to also "console" with her because with that singular wrong post,SR has literarily 'murdered' the woman before Nigerians and even d world.
Social media shud be used with extreme caution because it spreads fast and most times it's that first post that attracts,retractions hardly reach d same number of audience.

She should sue...... One reputation and Image should not just be trifled with

Ngokafor:
.....I laugh at a butterfly who thinks its a bird..I choose to reply you dunder heads because i want to,not becuase your lame rants fazes me in any way..ican equally ignore you touts and there is nothing you can do about it..

...EFCC works hand with sahara-reporters to 'expose corruption'..they simply goofed on this one..period....

EFCC works with Sahara-Reporters? OMG! why are you coming out more idiotic!!!!!

....and is that your proof? more conjectures! OK someone is in a wrong place. I think you should lay-off intellectual discussion.....it is obviously not your turf

komekn:

Sunnynwa: :
You scandalise someone and tarnish her image before getting your facts right?

Continue.

What are facts?

In Nigeria facts can be changed in broad day light.

With this kind of money at stake I expect people to say the moon is blue. In Nigeria that kind of money will cause every substantiated evidential fact to be turned upside down. This is not Europe, the US or Canada where facts cannot and do not change. In Nigeria facts evolve and change all the time.

SR are doing a fantastic job, nobody else has the guts, heart and liver to do what they do.


I am yet to have seen them present one piece of fake news.

I beg to disagree. While SR have done many good jobs, they have done many bad jobs as well. What they have done in this case in point is utterly IRRESPONSIBLE. Mrs. Ogbue can sue and will SR will have to pay a hefty fine. Melina Trump today is $3m free-money richer courtesy of an irresponsible journalism by Daily Mail UK.

Ngokafor:
...look at this bushman....Basic critical reasoning is completely alien to you apc zombies..keep up with your herd-mentality.

Basic critical reasoning? Madam, don't even go there, cos you have none of it, no iota of it. How can a simple challenge to substantiate your claim (that EFCC made the allegation that the money belonged to Mrs. Ogbue) be so rocket science to you. All these your stylish, escapist and needless manuvering will not help you. In fact it further brings you out as unintelligent. You think if you abuse people, they will get off your case? Stewpid!

You have two options, and both would have and would make you come out as civil and help your image
1. Substantiate the claim with a link to EFCC Press release where they announced one person as the owner of the house where the money was found
2. Recant the statement, apologise for putting wrong information

Both won't kill you..... but this ignoble line you're towing just gives you away as empty

property123:

Ngokafor: :


...EFCC under this incompetent admin has a knack for rushing to the media without proper investigations,to make noise with the aim to keep gullible and hungry citizens busy while their paymasters APC gropes in dark blindly in terms of governance...

..Therefore i wont be surprised if this is just another wild-goose chase that ends in nothing..no be today.

Can you show me any place or news media publication that claim efcc alleged or confirmed that the money belongs to this woman? You will just be making unfounded allegations against efcc, you will soon be asked to prove your allegation. Always get your facts right, Most Nigerians rely more on hear say or gossip than the authentic information because an average Nigeria will never read or do a small research. Copy and paste generation.

@property123, don't mind the "afofungbemu". You know some people just think their demented state is the baseline of human reasoning................

michaelwilli:
Then I'll be right to curse you if u eva complain about buhari. This jamb is a case of poor planning and feasibility studies, in this computer age people still queue for registration? I can bet with my scrotum that if I planned this registration process, we won't have this level of nonsense. so whether it's a new system or not, the short comings are intolerable. so forget about my primary objective, u probably suffer n smile, typical naija sombori

Obviously, I struggle to get through to make you see reason. Let's make it simple, let's continue this discussion after you're done with JAMB

michaelwilli:
After using the jamb app, you'll still need to go to the center for thumbprint and passport. So you have not evaded any queue.
The time you went to ikoyi compared to now that we have computers. Besides before it was easier and it should even be made easier not harder. It should be progressive not retrogressive

Bros,

Your primary objective is to get registered, write the exam and pass. Process change comes with sacrifice, especially at first times. So quit twisted interpretations....."retrogressive".

I remember the late Gbenga Adeboye (Alhaji-Pastor-Oluwo Funwontan's) saying - [translated thus] - In a trade by barter exchange, the giver of the police uniform has no case to answer but the receiver.......in fact he's advised to receive the complete pair of the police uniform so that his explanation can also be "complete"

OBAGADAFFI:
Don't ask me any documents here.

Every document about the place is in the same Court your government disobeyed.


Why was Ijora stopped If they can demolish residential areas with out alternative.

What happened to Fashola treat to demolish Makoko YABA after all the Noise.

Ok! for all it's worth, you're wasting my time......

BlowBack:
The funniest thing is that majority of the callous human beings supporting this inhumanity are not even landlords in Lagos nor do they even live anywhere near Lekki

Rather they live in rundown parts of Lagos like Abule Egba, okoko and other far flung suburban slums

Mapet tell me where you live in Lagos

Run a search on my previous comments here on NL, you will find out where I live.

BlowBack:
Tajudeen will you prefer to drown in Lagos or sold out as a slave in Osun?

Why will I drown in Lagos when I am already welcomed here!

OBAGADAFFI:
LOL,

Every information about the Otodo Gbame is in Court

Why did government initially​ denied they were involved in the demolition.

And now they​ disobeying court order about the demolition.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/226395-lagos-govt-ignores-court-order-commences-fresh-demolition-otodo-gbame-residents-say.html


Ijora demolition has stopped
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/ambode-halts-eviction-of-ijora-badia-residents/

1. Sure the matter is/was in court, it's their's for them to turn around.....but it is a lost battle. Meanwhile can you furnish me with details that traces the ancestry of the Otodo-Gbame to any family in Lagos?
2. Ijora demolition stopped by Ambode, yes, but I thought your argument is that Lagos State government cannot demolish residential areas?

deomello:
"scientific paper" in made up rubbish, hence his inability to back up his under the bed "scientific paper" with facts.