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All of a sudden, he tried to spin his way around as if he meant what I explicated to him in clear terms.

When I pointed out to him that his submission is turning logic on its head. I told him that you don't grow IGR simply by borrowing money (more like his thinking is that Aregbesola borrowed money and added to an account called IGR? ), I explained to him that his borrowing is to address infrastructure deficit which stimulate the economy to attract more IGR........He then spun things around that I simply restarted what he earlier meant and that I was the one contradicting myself.

Now these were the realities
1. He did not understand IGR, how it is conceptualised and how it operates. I remeber I even explained to him once that IGR was not static and the aspiration of every govt is to grow IGR.
2. if his basis of argument was on IGR and he well understood it, then why the needless arguement that about how Osun supposedly "grew IGR"

Then we pointed out to him that according to NBS stats, Osun generated over N8b in IGR and that his argument that Osun was not growing IGR falls flat, he then made a ridiculous statement that Osun borrowed money and grew IGR to N8b

Then it was now proven to him that not only had Osun grown its IGR, and that Osun was one of the states with decent IGR profile. I told him that according to stats, Osun was 16th on IGR ratings, generated 14% of the FAAC allocation in terms of IGR and that states that were in danger are the ones who generated less than 10%. His next move is to ask a daft question, "why is Osun not doing better?"

@deomelo; @Desyner

So we were having what I thought should have been a credible argument. Prior to this, @Desyner had been "Osun had no IGR", "Osun cannot raise the needed IGR" infact he made an accertion that Osun was not growing its IGR

deomelo:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/6199602_are_png9ed3b9d9dec074aa6c100da55e65cf97


Ole liar, you really think I'm dumb and wasn't expecting you to do and edit your lies. I know you, you are a liar and a damn crook, hence captioning your whole quote, without me quoting you for so no way for me to edit your post.

Bros,

I thought I was the only one that noticed that @ Desyner is, not only a blatant liar, but a liar with no honor (even there is honor among thieves...as the saying goes).
Give me few ticks, let me screen grab some of our engagements before he wipes it. I will lay it on here

Desyner:
Look, in Nigeria with money, any idìot can have a robust support base. This thread is testament to that. Just read mapet/deomelo post history. He alternates user account.

When I see mention notifications, I'm excited hoping I will be getting intellectual stimulation from a decent NLers. Lo and behold I open only to see that it is a non-starter @Desyner!!!,..... am like "father, why have you visited me with the sin of the Egyptians".

diegwu01:
Mumus full Nigeria i swear.
The Governor is launching a cleaner environment / Hygiene and sense campaign
Since lots of Nigerians lack common sense like the twitter poster

Bros,

I keep saying it, people's ignorance and idiocy is becoming pandemic. When our kids refuse to be properly educated, get knowledge in school but rant and rave about useless things on social media, this is what you find. Are you any suprised that the idi.ot Adebowale Ogunmusi also got some deranged people on NL supporting his ignorance?

lilytender:

mars123: Yes, thats my man right there!!! But come o, who puts a lawyer in charge of a ministry of works, power and housing I don't care if you've been governor of the whole world before, you simply dont have the qualifications. No wonder the most unserious country on the globe is still stuck in the stone age.

So the president must be an engineer, a lawyer, a doctor, an economist, e.t.c. Go get a job.

Bros,

E tire me for this kind of myopic thinking. We have told people, there is difference between academic qualifications and leadership.

seunmsg:
This is not PMB's doing. Metuhs major defence in court is that there was no mens rea (guilty mind) when he collected the N400million from ONSA as directed by Jonathan. Only Jonathan and Dasuki can corroborate his claim hence, the need for both of them to appear as defence witness. If Jonathan found a way to vacate the subpoena order, Metuh his toast. His defence will crumble. So you see, Metuh is now between the devil and the deep blue sea.

BTW, this Metuh case is even the small one that Jonathan will have to deal with. Once the trial of Dasuki start fully, he will also subpoena Jonathan as defence witness. Jonathan has lots of cases to answer whether he likes it or not. He can't go on forever throwing every of his loyalist involved in corruption cases under the bus.

You are right on this......he will have to ultimately bear the responsibility

Blue3k:

QueenOfNepal: :
The problem with you is that
you are not a realist rather you bbelieve everything you read.


I don't pray any Southern state should agreee on hosting the nuclear reactor rather it should be sited in Daura since a train station is coming there and also it's close proximity to Niger Republic that has the raw material which is Uranium.

Man your mention is dumb. The issue with people like you is that you guys cling to petty emotions rather than scientific research. You don't understand science behind nuclear power nor do you comprehend my comments. Did I say we should use uranium? Did you not see me mention thorium salt reactors or do you not know there's a difference?

This is a classic intellectual upper-cut.

@Blue3k,

You should not be too surprised, it seem that while gaining knowledge requires hard work, ignorance on the other hand is a contagion

Throwback:

genearts: :
Dr. Jonathan, in a motion he filed through his counsel, Chief Mike Ozekhome (SAN),


Ozekhome represents goodluck too?? I give up

Ozekhome represents anyone that will pay. Ozekhome will one day represent boko haram.

......he will not stop there, he will represent principalities, evil forces and satan

genearts:
Dr. Jonathan, in a motion he filed through his counsel, Chief Mike Ozekhome (SAN),


Ozekhome represents goodluck too?? I give up

Chief Mike Ozekhome (SAN) is a mercenary lawyer. He represents anything corrupt.

Throwback:

Besides, Jonathan argued that Metuh was not a personal aide or his appointee and, therefore, could not have dealt with the President directly under any circumstance to warrant the invitation of the applicant to testify in the charge.

He further submitted that there was no nexus between him and Metuh and the charge for which the defendants are standing trial.

Metuh wey say he will never betray Jonathan, yet he wants him to come and dance naked at the town square with paparazzi waiting with their cameras.

But is it fair that Jonathan will deny someone from his political backbone tribe? Jonathan almost claim not to have known Metuh from Adam, just to avoid legal responsibilities that will eventually lead to admission of criminality and corruption.


Children must learn a valuable lesson here.
Never commit a crime for a man with power. He will deny you the way Jonathan has denied Metuh thrice, while he sorts himself out with the other powers that be.

It was always going to come to this. I believe it's either the greed that comes with unfettered access to money that makes people forget that precedent connects with posterity. In the days of banks collapse and scandals, I remember the case of a bank (was it Citizens Bank) whom the CFO was jailed. His excuse that he was only carrying out the instructions from his boss was thrown out. The judge submitted that you cannot hide under the garb of "management directive" to commit a crime

IamPatriotic:
What Metuh actually wanted is entirely different from what Jonathan's lawyer claims he wants, gush! our before before publicity secretary is on a long thing.

He was on a long things from the onset. His case is like the proverbial sacrificial animal

seunmsg:

In addition, he submitted that the evidence sought to be obtained from Jonathan was likely to expose the former President to a criminal charge, penalty or forfeiture.

Above is why Jonathan is scared to death of appearing in court. Sorry Metuh, you just got thrown under the bus by the same person you went all the way out for before the last election. All political asslickers around the president better learn from Metuhs case. Once shiit get real, you are going to be abandoned to your fate.

It's no brainer. I raise this poser last week, that either ways GEJ is on the back foot on this. I think this statement was made by his lawyer and probably signal to PMB; reminding PMB of the promise/agreement that he will not prosecute GEJ

whateverkay:
Why can't the DSS and military invade bayelsa and capture Jonathan Sometimes buhari dey fall person hand..

If PMB does this, spin doctors will say Buhari is attacking "Christians"

Desyner:
Are you trying to spin it as a comprehension deficit on my side after many days? If that's the case I still challenge you to explain it. You wouldn't. Why? Cos you know you exposed your own flaw.
Here it is again:

Challenge me to explain to you something your faculty is still struggling with? Do you think I take you serious?
Bros, you're just a comic relief

Dasini:
Am not supporting anyone, but i think it is clearly stated there, that the project has been concessioned, otherwise known as PPP or BOT agreement, it is not to be financed by Osun govt, this was how MMA2 was Birthed. i feel, if it is so, then i see no reason to stop the project nor condemn it.

Bros,

I weep for people of my generation, I mean how can something be so obviously stated in the report and these people went so off tangent. Don't you see that comprehension has become rocket science for some people

Desyner:
What is painful in you contradicting yourself? If anything, it is sweet to see it. I leave the public to judge who is the kid between us.
One more, time this is your post you refuse to reconcile:
They are your words. Justify them instead of insults.

You want the public to judge your comprehension deficit? Help is what you really need Bro

Mysselff2:
Not by living a lie or trying to demonize AIT that exposed the truth

Save it. You are just going round in circles. My simple question to you is what is investigative in a report laced with falsehood?

Desyner:
You think this is a fight. Reconcile your own post then. It is now you against yourself.
These are your words:

Now I know you're a little kid. You come out like a pained bitter kid. Keep posting this same Ole rhetoric, nobody will stop you.

Desyner:
Stop playing stupid games. You contradicted yourself to expose the fraud you are and ran away when I confronted your drug-saturated brain. Reconcile your contradicting post I showed you just before you "went for weekend".

You are beyond redemption. You lost.....give it up.

Can I safely conclude that the term "concession" is alien to you all?

omohayek:

MyNewJackeT: :


tell it to the Fulani herdsmen

And what exactly does this content-free statement of yours have to do with anything I've written? Why bother quoting me at all if you had nothing of value to add? And no, I don't consider you grinding your "Fulani herdsmen" axe in any way relevant to my statements, as it isn't as if I've ever defended them in any way.

If you can't be bothered to carefully read and understand what others have to say, don't go quoting them for no good reason just to make your banalities seem intelligent.

content-free abi daft? Abeg call a spade a spade

Desyner:
Good to hear. What did Osun generate within same period?
Mapet/deomelo, you may be interested in this.

Do you have a brain? use it

Mysselff2:
You have missed my point entirely. I don't know why this thing is being discoloured with politics( the guys I spoke with at the UK end still maintain their position and all I'm interested in is that Nigeria becomes THE major player in yam exports.
If anything objective,there was a paragraph where you said the blame (which blame,if not for the rotten yams) should be put at the doorsteps of the customs and not the ministry of agriculture (Infact if anything Chief Ogbeh and his MOA people should be commended for championing the yam export cause, and of course if you go back to my submission again,I did not even blame the ministry of agric as they have nothing to do with the yams spending more time at the port.
The bottom line is that instead of trading blames and demonizing AIT, I maintain they should be commended for pointing out the threats to this yam export , which nobody was ready to report in the first place, at least subsequent exporters and even importers,as well as the stakeholders (like customs) now know how to better play their parts to ensure profitable and scandal free transaction ,this is the only way everyone involved in the value chain of this business will benefit and grow to claim the dominant position from Ghana not only in the sub region but globally

1. Let's start addressing the political angle from AIT's needless perspective to reportage, damaging a good initiative for inexplicable reasons
2. I wonder where your moral compass is. You want us to praise AIT, whom the exporters accuse of inaccurate reporting, falsifying information and painting wrong perspectives?
3. There is no scandal in this, to the best of my understanding. What we are going through is the realities of the intricases involved in the Yam export business. Ghana has been in this business for a decade. Do you think we can come an upstage Ghana overnight without learning the ropes. We learn to crawl, then baby-steps, then walk before we can sprint. We now understand that our current processes at the port was not prepared for export of this nature, so all stakeholders can now come together and get the necessary permits, waivers, specialised storage and quality control that is necessary. We have demonstrated the will, it is left for follow through.

deomelo:

Desyner: :
Ask a Nairalander called mapet, he works directly with Aregbesola.

And who do you work for since you go from thread to thread crying over Osun state and Aregbeshola 24/7 instead of your worthless, unproductive and project-less SE governors?

Argbeshola and Osun state delivered more projects than all your useless SE states combined?

Abi would you like to show us what they commissioned in Eboyin, Enugu, Abia, in Anambra apart from the substandard village flyover?


Again, the fact that you people cry over Osun states mean you admire Osun, you are jealous of Osun and Aregbe's achievements intimidates you because I don't get the silly fixation on Osun state while your own useless states rots away with zero development.

Bros,


This guy himself is a worthless thing. He won't give up, he's been floored, he's pained and just keep pushing his stu.pidity on NL. Imagine, I have been away from NL for the weekend only to see that the guy has mentioned me 8x. Is trying to get my attention?

@Desyner, pls get this into your head, you're unintelligent.

Desyner:
You not only made weak/invalid points, you also repeat them. It speaks alot about your character.
Is there any sin balancing projects with IGR that will sustain those projects? Your fiscal rascal of a governor has borrowed to deliver unmaintainable project and I think any average thinking Nigerian will agree we lack maintenance culture in Nigeria. Where will the money to pay workers come from if Aregbe can't pay the current low salaries he is suppose to.
You think awarding contracts on debt makes him genius or what exactly are you about here?
Taking debt to do infrastructure is not what I am against, excessive debt is what I am against. Aregbe gambled heavily on FG allocation and it backfired spectacularly.
Before you reply me think properly so you don't contradict yourself like you did under mapet handle in the other thread.

Bros,

Is it some drugs you're taking or should be taking. You think people don't have honor like you; or you love to "hug" my name, you this sub-par intellect thing. Abeg fight your battle and don't include me in yours.

deji17:
We thank our amazon for a job well done.

I always tell people that, when South East people are done "chopping" their numerous lies, they will still come back to "chop" their bitter truth..

Tiri Gbosa for Mama the MAMA.

SirBlack999:
It doesn't explain why she's a hoe.

Neither does it explain why she will win a medal in being daft

This song is very deep to me. It reminds me of the sermon by Bishop Ademowo, when he was in our church 2weeks ago tilted - show kindness

"Is there anyone still left of the house of Saul to whom I can show kindness. 2 Samuel 9:1